Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: pikeman on April 12, 2017, 08:26:29 pm
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What a weekso far. Got a peugeot expert 09 reg only 68000 on the clock. Monday afternoon the turbo went. Had a couple of quotes looks like round about 1000 pounds ouch. Got loads of work to do so hired a transit for a week 294 pounds. Think I'm going to have a new van any recommendations. Do like the expert but been put off one now for obvious reasons
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Depends how much stuff you carry
I use the new shape transit connect LWB, economy very good, 985 payload
Poles fit in can put in a 47 extreme a modular 60 and also manage a gutter vac small ladder as well
But depends what else you use or need
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Where you based ?
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Sorry to her that pikeman.
Think you're having a bad day. Chap on bookfarce pressure washing pages posted a pic of one of his vans burnt out on someone drive whilst doing a pressure washing job. Apparently his worker went to refuel the van mount washer and it burst into flames.
Gutted would be an understatement. lol
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A horrible feeling when it happens, it will probably happen to us all at somepoint no matter what van we have.
Those engines are know for turbo problems, or at least the 1.6 ones are... i have that engine so waiting for mine to go bang.
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Dudley tony. Wished mine had been burnt out last week lol
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Yes apparently the hdi are a nightmare couple of garages didn't want to know
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Is yours the 1.6 engine?
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No mate its the 2 litre
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That is a bit worrying. Thought I might go for one of those as my next van.
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Been a great van had it from 6 months old but this has really put me off
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Always had a regular service as well
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Find out what the Government are going to do as regards the anti-diesel maliciousness before you commit to anything long term.
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I can get you a price to fix but you would have to travel to West Yorkshire ( IE trailored ) ?
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Thanks tony but got someone to pick it up today a local garage. Going to be around a thousand though. Tempted to scrap it. Really. Heard reports that it's a big job a complete oil change amongst other things has to be done.
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sory to here your turbo has gone pikeman i allways thault the 2.0hdi engines were realy good i have hurd the turbos can go maby you were unlucky ,its a enging out job to fit the new turbo if i rember rite wich is y some garages may be put off, if u had the 1.6hdi ide say sell as is and walk away but as its the 2.0hdi ide get it fixed mate
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Yes king think I probably do that. Might part exchange it. Been a great van upto now. Always said I'd have another one not so sure now.
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turbos can go on any van and car at any time.on an 09 plate and only 68000 miles surely its worth getting fixed and keeping it?
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if you are going to sell it and buy another one i also have the new shape connect LWB L2 and its perfect for a sole trader(500L tank and room for poles without having to cut into the bulkhead)936kg payload.
im leasing brand new vans from now on(changing them every 5 years).im sick to death of messing around with old vans.
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How much are the payments?
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get rid of it and buy a brand new van with a warranty
dont waste time and money and dont rent a van or lease, put down as big a deposit as you can and pay the rest off quickly to pay as little interest as possible
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get rid of it and buy a brand new van with a warranty
dont waste time and money and dont rent a van or lease, put down as big a deposit as you can and pay the rest off quickly to pay as little interest as possible
Leasing can be more tax efficient. As 100% of all the payments are deductible with no need to calculate depreciation
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whatever you do mat , i hope today is a nicer day for you than yesterday
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if you are going to sell it and buy another one i also have the new shape connect LWB L2 and its perfect for a sole trader(500L tank and room for poles without having to cut into the bulkhead)936kg payload.
im leasing brand new vans from now on(changing them every 5 years).im sick to death of messing around with old vans.
500L perfect for YOU Daz😃
I am a sole trader, I have 650 L and use over 500 regularly
Filling up at customers is not for me either!!!
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With 650L tank, I lease custom SWB, 1080 payload
Just windows for me, no pressure washing etc.
PERFECT
Foe ME!!!!! ;D
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Or just buy a warranty from warrantydirect- your turbo and all the damage it's failure caused would have been fully covered. I had a gearbox replaced without question when I lost 5th gear on my 1.6 dispatch.
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get rid of it and buy a brand new van with a warranty
dont waste time and money and dont rent a van or lease, put down as big a deposit as you can and pay the rest off quickly to pay as little interest as possible
Leasing can be more tax efficient. As 100% of all the payments are deductible with no need to calculate depreciation
but you never own the van its just a rental,
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Tempted to go down the new van route but needs to carry 2 passengers as I don't have another vehicle. Been talking to the mechanic nd apparantly you can't just put any old in the hdi engine. I have topped it up with any oil. Only did it once but perhaps that's the cause.
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Surprised you need to top up the oil. I have an 11 year old 2.0hdi dispatch, owned from new, done 98k and never had to top oil up between services.
Never had any problems with it so far, but it is the previous model to yours.
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Took for a service every year first couple to the main dealer. then just the local garage. beginning to wonder if maybe the wrong oil has been put in over the last few years according to the mechanic whose looking at it now the right oil is critical for the hdi. The more at look at new vans the more im tempted to go for it. the transit custom looks good.
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get rid of it and buy a brand new van with a warranty
dont waste time and money and dont rent a van or lease, put down as big a deposit as you can and pay the rest off quickly to pay as little interest as possible
Leasing can be more tax efficient. As 100% of all the payments are deductible with no need to calculate depreciation
but you never own the van its just a rental,
Yes.... ::)roll..That's the point and why it's more tax efficient.
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Think ill take a look at the leasing option. Even though im paying 300 pounds a week for the hire van now. Ican see the attraction none of the expenses of owning a van and im sure I could lease a van for less than that. Food for thought.
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get rid of it and buy a brand new van with a warranty
dont waste time and money and dont rent a van or lease, put down as big a deposit as you can and pay the rest off quickly to pay as little interest as possible
Leasing can be more tax efficient. As 100% of all the payments are deductible with no need to calculate depreciation
but you never own the van its just a rental,
Yes.... ::)roll..That's the point and why it's more tax efficient.
The most cost effective way to have a new van is as Scrimble has suggested, if you shop around you could get an interest rate of under 3% on a loan. e,g if you were to put down a healthy deposit and get a loan of 10K, over 3 years you will only pay around £425 in interest, pay it over 2 years and you will pay under £300 in interest. Leasing may very well be more tax efficient but it doesn't detract from the fact that you will pay way over the odds for a van that isn't yours.
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I think depeciation is in leasings favour. In my case paid 14000 in 2009 for the van probably worthless until I get the turbo sorted and then only worth about 3000. Plus all the expenses along the way. It's a hard call really.
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I think depeciation is in leasings favour. In my case paid 14000 in 2009 for the van probably worthless until I get the turbo sorted and then only worth about 3000. Plus all the expenses along the way. It's a hard call really.
With a new van there will be a warranty so there shouldn't be a lot of expenses. Yes you will have depreciation but you will also have an asset.
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Just been looking at loans. I'm with lloyds If I put 10000 to a new van and borrow 10000 it would cost me about 42 pounds a week not too bad really. I f I leased a van is it insured by them or do I have that cost?
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Irrespective of how you buy a van it is down to you to insure it. Because you bank with Lloyds doesn't mean you have to get a loan through them, you could get a loan through someone else and set up the direct debit at Lloyds, Sainsburys do loans from 2.8%, also pay back any loan in the shortest time possible as this way you pay less interest so in effect you are paying less for the van.
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It costs me just over £200 (including VAT) a month to lease my van.
Only upfront cost was 3 months rental which they didn't take out until 3 weeks after delivering the van!☺
Im with vanarama and found them very quick and professional.from the first initial contact it took less than 3 weeks to deliver me a brand new van.excellent service.top marks from me.
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You insure your van (I also took out GAP insurance too just in case the worst happens).12 months free road tax though and they tax it every year and send u the bill.
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It costs me just over £200 (including VAT) a month to lease my van.
Only upfront cost was 3 months rental which they didn't take out until 3 weeks after delivering the van!☺
Im with vanarama and found them very quick and professional.from the first initial contact it took less than 3 weeks to deliver me a brand new van.excellent service.top marks from me.
But in the end you will pay over 20k for the modern equivalent of an escort van!! ;D
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No I won't mate.more like 13k then sell it and lease another brand new Van.happy days. :)
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13k? Never!
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To quote a well known bender of the truth
£21,500 including VAT.its the limited version(1.6 tdci,115ps,L2,240)top spec.i can sell it after 5 years and do a new deal on another brand new van if i want
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It is more tax efficient to lease If your business can support it. If you cannot afford to lease then buying is cheaper.
But doing some more research I found this:
"As a general rule, if a car has a good resale value then you're better off buying it. After three years you'd own a valuable asset, whereas with a leased car you'd have nothing.
But if the car plummets in value then it's probably cheaper to lease it, as you won't be bearing the brunt of the depreciation
Read more at http://www.gocompare.com/car-insurance/is-it-cheaper-to-lease-or-buy-a-car/#r3jbMkIDywJf71wB.99"
If you are a company with employees, and need a fleet of vans I guess leasing will be the best option.
Oh I don't know anymore...I have confused myself...... ???
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To quote a well known bender of the truth
£21,500 including VAT.its the limited version(1.6 tdci,115ps,L2,240)top spec.i can sell it after 5 years and do a new deal on another brand new van if i want
You sell it after 5 years ya dummy!if I get over 7k then I keep the extra (after tax of course).5 years of paying £200+ a month is around 13k.
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If you are a company with employees, and need a fleet of vans I guess leasing will be the best option.
That's the conclusion that I came to a few years ago.
As a sole trader the best financial deal for me was buying a van.
I happened at the time to source a pre registered van locally and literally saved thousands on the retail price and got a van with 75 miles on the clock.
The one man bands that are leasing are most probably only doing so as they don't have cash to buy a new vehicle or an adequate credit score to borrow.
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Ill sell it after 5 years to pay off the balloon payment Dave.so I pay around 13k for a new Van for 5 years.
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If you are a company with employees, and need a fleet of vans I guess leasing will be the best option.
That's the conclusion that I came to a few years ago.
As a sole trader the best financial deal for me was buying a van.
I happened at the time to source a pre registered van locally and literally saved thousands on the retail price and got a van with 75 miles on the clock.
The one man bands that are leasing are most probably only doing so as they don't have cash to buy a new vehicle or an adequate credit score to borrow.
You need a good credit score to lease a van.they don't just lease a van to anyone!
Also it's much better( for me anyway) to just pay a small monthly payment instead of forking out £££££'s in one hit.
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Dazmond ya dummy it doesn't work like that. Your van has still cost you over £21000. When you lease your next van you might have some money to start again if you sell. What you are doing is counting your chickens before they've hatched. A bit like pretending your van hasn't cost you anything at all because your customers paid for it! It has in fact knocked your income back because you have foregone your potential pay rise. You will have spent £21000 to own a van hopefully worth what in five years? You could have spent half of that on a nearly new van and achieved the same result.
I think leasing is good if you are vat registered, run up big mileages or are desperate. Leasing is always loaded in favour of the dealer and their bank - it has to be.
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If I sold my house I'll probably find it's actually cost me nothing! £350,000 for nothing. Not bad.
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The van will cost me nothing as the pay rise has covered the payments.
After paying 13k in 5 years of lease payments I then sell the van for at least 7 k and pay the balloon.
I then get another brand new Van and the process starts again.
Maybe it's not the cheapest option but it suits me at present.it's a business expense that I can easily afford and it's easy and low hassle.
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Some think no one mentions HYUNDAI. They also do a 6 seater. 1 ton loan. 38mpg. and 100,000 warranty. £18000 a vat
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The van will cost me nothing as the pay rise has covered the payments.
After paying 13k in 5 years of lease payments I then sell the van for at least 7 k and pay the balloon.
I then get another brand new Van and the process starts again.
Maybe it's not the cheapest option but it suits me at present.it's a business expense that I can easily afford and it's easy and low hassle.
So the 13k you will have paid plus the 7k balloon payment you then make is around 20k. No idea what depreciation will be, but if resale value is less than 7k it would cost you even more.
Not saying you have done the wrong thing, but for me personally as a sole trader who is not a higher rate tax payer buying makes more sense than leasing.
A company has to make more money leasing a vehicle than selling it or it would not make good business sense for them to do so, so logically it would normally cost more to lease than buy when you factor everything in to the equation.
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Like the look of the vauxhall vivaro think I'll see what deals are out there
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there is some cracking deals on the vivaros 13k will get you one with 20,000 on the clock
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there is some cracking deals on the vivaros 13k will get you one with 20,000 on the clock
Huh yeah and at 21k the gearbox gives out
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Think the gearbox promblem has been sorted out on the newer models
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The van will cost me nothing as the pay rise has covered the payments.
After paying 13k in 5 years of lease payments I then sell the van for at least 7 k and pay the balloon.
I then get another brand new Van and the process starts again.
Maybe it's not the cheapest option but it suits me at present.it's a business expense that I can easily afford and it's easy and low hassle.
So the 13k you will have paid plus the 7k balloon payment you then make is around 20k. No idea what depreciation will be, but if resale value is less than 7k it would cost you even more.
Not saying you have done the wrong thing, but for me personally as a sole trader who is not a higher rate tax payer buying makes more sense than leasing.
A company has to make more money leasing a vehicle than selling it or it would not make good business sense for them to do so, so logically it would normally cost more to lease than buy when you factor everything in to the equation.
i could just pay the balloon myself and keep the van say another 5 years and pay a peppercorn rental(usually around £200 a year)if i wanted to.
the thing is i should easily get 7k for a 5 year old van with 20k-25k on the clock in good clean condition with full service history.
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there is some cracking deals on the vivaros 13k will get you one with 20,000 on the clock
i wouldnt have a vivaro if you were giving one away for free.
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there is some cracking deals on the vivaros 13k will get you one with 20,000 on the clock
You can get a brand new one for that.... plus vat.
No gearbox issues on the new models and a much better size than a connect etc.
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there is some cracking deals on the vivaros 13k will get you one with 20,000 on the clock
i wouldnt have a vivaro if you were giving one away for free.
Why?
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too big for me the vivaros for a one man band IMO and they usually have lots of problems even when relatively new.mechanics i know always tell me to stay clear of them.so i have.
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What are the problems you've been told about ?
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I had one as a hire van for a couple of weeks, I liked it. Drove better than my Hiace.
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ive got a 2010 vivaro lwb im a sole trader its a realy good size, the gear box is a let down mine went at 42k ish but it was under warnty at the time so did not have to pay, apart from that its been very relible now just hiting 60k ish , one thing you have to do with them is seal the scutle pannel as they are prone to leaking £30 and its done,that is the sole cause for problims on these vans
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ill run my van to 90k and chop it in then get a new one
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Custom is great size for one man band.
Lots of water, high flow = splash and lots of dash = money earned then home early ;D
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Just an update on the van promblem. Garage phoned van been done apparently wasn't the turbo it was the egr valve so didnt cost half as much. So now I've got 2 vans on the drive lol. Also I'm in the aa breakdown repair cover which covers upto 500 pound of repairs. Not sure if the egr valve is covered yet though. I would recommend this cover used a couple of times once for a new starter motor and once ford a new battery. I pay 340 a year but if a new customer half price. Well worth it.
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Just an update on the van promblem. Garage phoned van been done apparently wasn't the turbo it was the egr valve so didnt cost half as much. So now I've got 2 vans on the drive lol. Also I'm in the aa breakdown repair cover which covers upto 500 pound of repairs. Not sure if the egr valve is covered yet though. I would recommend this cover used a couple of times once for a new starter motor and once ford a new battery. I pay 340 a year but if a new customer half price. Well worth it.
Best thing I ever did with my 1.6hdi was have the egr blanked off. You'll have no further trouble with it if you blank it but it's only a matter of time if you don't.
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So true mate could have saved me a lot of hassle.
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good news pikeman on the van m8 i was thinking about blanking my egr but not shore if the vivaro 2.0 suffer with them blocking or not ? i may speak my my garage when its no for service next
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Thanks king definately worth considering. Still might have a new van now I've looked at them really like vivaro