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Title: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: paul alan on April 07, 2017, 09:11:35 pm
Always wanted all work to be 4 weekly since the start, I like to have things a certain way.

Have dropped people in the past for going 8wk on me.

Now I insist on another 20-30% for the 8wk its great! I dont mind at all if they go that route cos to be honest it doesnt realy take much longer to clean but I can justify the high price.

Always stay open to the new, what next?
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: Smurf on April 07, 2017, 09:15:51 pm
Always wanted all work to be 4 weekly since the start, I like to have things a certain way.

Have dropped people in the past for going 8wk on me.

Now I insist on another 20-30% for the 8wk its great! I dont mind at all if they go that route cos to be honest it doesnt realy take much longer to clean but I can justify the high price.

Always stay open to the new, what next?

Even more dosh for 3 monthly cleans as not everyone wants 8 weekly.
One-off's is where the real money can be made. lol
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: paul alan on April 07, 2017, 09:23:44 pm
I know ,I gave someone a silly price for a 1 off cos i didnt realy want it. and they accepted!

Funny how I changed my mind about not wanting it.

Thing is though i struggle to see the point in having windows cleaned every 3 months, they may only stay clean for a week or two then 10 more weeks of dirty windows?

Doesnt seem economical

Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: Smurf on April 07, 2017, 09:27:56 pm
I know ,I gave someone a silly price for a 1 off cos i didnt realy want it. and they accepted!

Funny how I changed my mind about not wanting it.

Thing is though i struggle to see the point in having windows cleaned every 3 months, they may only stay clean for a week or two then 10 more weeks of dirty windows?

Doesnt seem economical

3 monthly contracts are quite common on blocks of flats etc.
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: paul alan on April 07, 2017, 09:31:06 pm
Suppose its just to be able to say" we get the windows cleaned"
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: Smurf on April 07, 2017, 10:31:15 pm
Larger property owner tend to go less frequent cleans too.
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: nathankaye on April 07, 2017, 11:11:52 pm
I still cant get my head round offering 8wkly work. I can understand from a clients point of view, especially if talking a high payout per clean. But your average house from a business point of view? Im struggling to see the forest for the trees 😕

For instance i have a customer 4wkly at 20 in 8wks that would be 2 cleans at 40.
So i charge 30 for 8wks instead, yes im a clean down but also a tenner down for sake of 10/15minute work. Could argue that it allows me to get extra work, which i do get that point. As in, 2 jobs at £30 a pop would give me £60 at 8wks and so a bonus of £20.  But on that basis if i have say 300 clients and they all go 8wkly, i would need to find say another 300 clients which seems like alot of effort, canvassing, leafleting or buying rounds etc etc
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: paul alan on April 08, 2017, 07:57:39 am
Larger property owner tend to go less frequent cleans too.
i am 100% finding that
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: Perfect Windows on April 08, 2017, 11:21:50 am
I still cant get my head round offering 8wkly work. I can understand from a clients point of view, especially if talking a high payout per clean. But your average house from a business point of view? Im struggling to see the forest for the trees 😕

For instance i have a customer 4wkly at 20 in 8wks that would be 2 cleans at 40.
So i charge 30 for 8wks instead, yes im a clean down but also a tenner down for sake of 10/15minute work. Could argue that it allows me to get extra work, which i do get that point. As in, 2 jobs at £30 a pop would give me £60 at 8wks and so a bonus of £20.  But on that basis if i have say 300 clients and they all go 8wkly, i would need to find say another 300 clients which seems like alot of effort, canvassing, leafleting or buying rounds etc etc

Because if you're full and your four weekly customer asks to go 8 weekly at £30, you say "yes".  Then another new customer (you don't have to turn them down, as you have space in the round) books 8-weekly at £30.  Now, in the time you were earning £40, you are earning £60.  50% pay rise for little extra work.

If you're doing it across your entire round from the start (which is what we did) then, yes, you need more customers.  Nothing in life is free.

VIn
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: jk999 on April 08, 2017, 02:25:23 pm
Can't see point in any longer than 4 weeks like someone said earlier windows are only clean for a couple of weeks so why pay for windows doing for them to be clean for a couple of weeks
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: Smurf on April 08, 2017, 02:44:03 pm
Can't see point in any longer than 4 weeks like someone said earlier windows are only clean for a couple of weeks so why pay for windows doing for them to be clean for a couple of weeks

The point is you can get away with charging more for doing less work.  Even most 3 monthly cleans from experience take no longer to do than a 4 weekly clean.
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: jk999 on April 08, 2017, 04:30:42 pm
Not really people I tell it's more say don't bother then
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: 8weekly on April 08, 2017, 04:55:05 pm
8weekly's what?
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: robbo333 on April 08, 2017, 04:55:31 pm
8 weekly works for me. I have a few 12 weeks and a few 4 weeks and they just get in the way to be honest.  ;D
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: Perfect Windows on April 08, 2017, 06:37:13 pm
Can't see point in any longer than 4 weeks like someone said earlier windows are only clean for a couple of weeks so why pay for windows doing for them to be clean for a couple of weeks

Customers love 12-weekly cleans.  Our franchisees earn more for the same amount of work.  Who loses?

Vin
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: tlwcs on April 08, 2017, 07:00:55 pm
The point to me is either the customer wants me to keep them clean, i.e monthly or they like me to make a difference as they get more mucky by choosing 8 weekly. It's all about what they want
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: Smurf on April 08, 2017, 07:08:53 pm
8weekly's what?

lol
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: dazmond on April 10, 2017, 06:26:15 pm
virtually all my new work is 8 weekly.i charge more and i have less time available to fit them into my workload.works perfectly well.

i have lots of work on a 4 weekly schedule though and quite a lot of these were 2 weekly 15 years ago! ;D

i must admit a do make a bit more money when all the 8 weekly work is due and its happening more and more as ive been taking on 8 weekly work for over 7 years now.happy days.
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: Tony dunmall on April 10, 2017, 09:44:29 pm
with mine its 6 weekly 12 weekly
half 12 weekly are done over the first 6 weeeklg schedule
The other half is done over next 6 weeks

I find there better prices my average 12 weekly price is about £45 so they addd a good return on each 6 weekly round

I find so many now just want window cleaned with yearly price in mind just like car insurance, many my 12 weekly houses are people second homes

Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: NWH on April 10, 2017, 10:25:56 pm
Jobs every 3 months are not worth bothering with if they are 30-40£ if they are 4-5x that they are,the latter are harder to come by so they are worth suffering the extra 4-5 weeks to come round.
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: NWH on April 10, 2017, 10:30:45 pm
Blimey Tone yearly!. timewasters springs to mind there I have 1 that has it done 3 x a year but it's well worth it even though it's just the 3 cleans. I would never start offering that service you'd be flat out in the spring and sitting on my hands for the next 10 months lol,I don't think it's good business sense to even start offering that kind of length between cleans.
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: Tony dunmall on April 10, 2017, 10:49:28 pm
Never had the intention offering 12 weekly, just make it worth while if having to do so, fits into a 6 weekly schedule nicely

I'd prefer a easy 6 weekly schedule but so many more now want longer intervals and with a lot more window cleaners

Best thing about the longer  intervals  is they never say not today

Remember my domestic round is not as  established as some its only been 5-8 yeas since I pulled out of comercial and I sold all establushed domestic work in Sevenoaks years ago

So it's a work in progress and nearly where I want it to be only about 10 customers a week to complete full round now and one high work job left, that the next area to replace



Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: NWH on April 11, 2017, 09:21:17 am
Sorry I thought you meant 12 monthly not weekly,I've got a few 12 weekly but like I say worth it.
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: sunshine windows on April 11, 2017, 09:48:11 am
I love my jobs with the longer frequency and try and price new jobs so they bite at this.

A little tip, make the shorter frequency a fairly high starter price and just add a little for going the longer period. That way if they choose the short frequency you're still earning good money 😉
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: Tony dunmall on April 11, 2017, 12:34:55 pm
LOL Yearly

The shame of it, confession time!!!

you'll berate me later, I deserve it

I have a few yearly clients,😢 but in my defence there so worth it financially and a change pace is quite pleasant

Most of them are gutters fascia soffits and windows with con roofs quite satisfying, do wish I had hot water for those though

But they range from £425 -695

I've got a large school 5 days once a year, but that doesn't count and a
Couple that just will happily pay day Rate until jobs complete





Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: dazmond on April 11, 2017, 05:42:24 pm
it doesnt really matter what frequency once you have a fairly  busy workload.i also have a yearly account and a 6 monthly account.both are good earners for time taken to clean.one of them takes me an hour and i charge £80! well worth it. :)
Title: Re: Taking a shine to the 8 weekly's
Post by: C & S on April 12, 2017, 06:23:11 pm
8 weekly the way forward.
Takes longer to build up. However in the end its easier.
More customers, more referells, doesnt matter when you lose a few awkward ones, more hourly rate. More add ons i.e pressure washing,gutters etc.
Bigger the poole of custards easier to fleece them for the add ons if you do them.