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Title: is this allowed??
Post by: nathankaye on April 07, 2017, 01:42:37 pm
Not sure how i stand with this legally and wondered if any on here know or have been informed as such.

Due to the layout of my van and equipment , the distance is too close to have a hose guide fitted inside the van and i dont fancy cutting a hole in van floor (tho might have to in the end). As i already inherited a tow bar with the van i cant see any reason why i can not fit the guide as i have done. As the tow bar protrudes the bumper anyway and now this guide slightly does as well.
Any thoughts?

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Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on April 07, 2017, 02:07:06 pm
Any thoughts? Yes, you worry far too much! Concentrate on cleaning windows or spending more time with your family! ;D
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: NWH on April 07, 2017, 03:25:07 pm
Been using my HD reel for a week now I can't believe how good it is I've heard some on here say it won't make you knock anymore houses out over the course of the week,i confirm that's rubbish. The way I feel today at the end of the week has proved what I thought to be correct,the hardest thing on the body with this job is the reeling in everyday,the majority of my work requires at least 60-70 meters of hose on an average and it has been bliss knowing I'm not gonna have to hand crank it back in and I had a very good manual reel.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: nathankaye on April 07, 2017, 03:55:26 pm
Been using my HD reel for a week now I can't believe how good it is I've heard some on here say it won't make you knock anymore houses out over the course of the week,i confirm that's rubbish. The way I feel today at the end of the week has proved what I thought to be correct,the hardest thing on the body with this job is the reeling in everyday,the majority of my work requires at least 60-70 meters of hose on an average and it has been bliss knowing I'm not gonna have to hand crank it back in and I had a very good manual reel.

Have to agree on that point, it just makes the working day easier and more of a joy than a burden
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: NWH on April 07, 2017, 04:06:08 pm
I had the petal version over a year ago and I couldn't get on with it the fittings didn't like hot but this new one is spot on.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: Dry Clean on April 07, 2017, 04:47:22 pm
Been using my HD reel for a week now I can't believe how good it is I've heard some on here say it won't make you knock anymore houses out over the course of the week,i confirm that's rubbish. The way I feel today at the end of the week has proved what I thought to be correct,the hardest thing on the body with this job is the reeling in everyday,the majority of my work requires at least 60-70 meters of hose on an average and it has been bliss knowing I'm not gonna have to hand crank it back in and I had a very good manual reel.


I suppose it would depend on how much reeling in and out your doing over the day, it certainly wouldn't be a game changer
for many.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: Marc Stock on April 07, 2017, 04:59:11 pm
Sometimes I wish I had a power reel. But at least reeling in the hose you get some form of cardiovascular exercise.

When I was trad, I was well thin..now I suffer from the wfp paunch. Give me a Power hose reel and in 5 years I'll be struggling to stay fit.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: nathankaye on April 07, 2017, 05:01:41 pm
I dont know about that, because even on the odd jobs that i have scattered about it makes it more pleasurable to wind hose in electronically as its quicker and effortlessly.
Or i have days where i rarely move the van and at the end of the working day, to know all i need to do is press a button to quickly wind it up makes a big difference to morale.

For less than 50quid to convert reel, its well worth it.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: nathankaye on April 07, 2017, 05:06:27 pm
Sometimes I wish I had a power reel. But at least reeling in the hose you get some form of cardiovascular exercise.

When I was trad, I was well thin..now I suffer from the wfp paunch. Give me a Power hose reel and in 5 years I'll be struggling to stay fit.

I cant believe that within 2yrs how i seem to be storing up for next winter lol whilst not shedding off last yrs winter warmers 😂😂
Ive just joined a gym to get my fitness back.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: richard groves on April 07, 2017, 05:07:13 pm
Can't think it an issue Nathan. I set up something similar as a hose guide on the tow bars bracket ( removed the tow ball )
After all  how many cars and campers do you see driving around with 2 or 2 bikes on a rack on the back of them ?
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: nathankaye on April 07, 2017, 05:14:22 pm
Can't think it an issue Nathan. I set up something similar as a hose guide on the tow bars bracket ( removed the tow ball )
After all  how many cars and campers do you see driving around with 2 or 2 bikes on a rack on the back of them ?

Cheers, this is what im thinking
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: Miko67 on April 07, 2017, 05:31:06 pm
You's are lazy sods on the wfp man. Anything for an easy ride with you lot
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: Dave Willis on April 07, 2017, 05:46:37 pm
Hardest part I've found is carrying the money home at the end of the day.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: nathankaye on April 07, 2017, 06:21:21 pm
You's are lazy sods on the wfp man. Anything for an easy ride with you lot

Weve done our fair share of tedious blading on windows and lugging ladders around, ducking n diving washing lines.  Buffing leaded windows up with the blazing sun beating down on you.
Yep, i // we deserve to take it easy n become lazy on wfp 😂😂😂 and its well worth it.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: dazmond on April 07, 2017, 06:50:45 pm
i dont see the point in hose guides.i just use a quality  fixed manual cox reel and leave one  van door open.

some of you must be really unfit if you think winding a bit of hose in is hard work.its virtually effortless with a decent fixed reel.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: trippyboy on April 07, 2017, 07:25:30 pm
Been using my HD reel for a week now I can't believe how good it is I've heard some on here say it won't make you knock anymore houses out over the course of the week,i confirm that's rubbish. The way I feel today at the end of the week has proved what I thought to be correct,the hardest thing on the body with this job is the reeling in everyday,the majority of my work requires at least 60-70 meters of hose on an average and it has been bliss knowing I'm not gonna have to hand crank it back in and I had a very good manual reel.
Best thing i ever bought
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: Smurf on April 07, 2017, 07:40:14 pm
Not sure how i stand with this legally and wondered if any on here know or have been informed as such.

Due to the layout of my van and equipment , the distance is too close to have a hose guide fitted inside the van and i dont fancy cutting a hole in van floor (tho might have to in the end). As i already inherited a tow bar with the van i cant see any reason why i can not fit the guide as i have done. As the tow bar protrudes the bumper anyway and now this guide slightly does as well.
Any thoughts?

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1491568915_Screenshot_2017-04-07-13-33-58.png)

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1491568930_Screenshot_2017-04-07-13-34-05.png)

The way the hose guide  is fitted I don't think it will stay on the bumper very long. Nor will the plastic rollers  last very long either. As far as it is sticking out I can't see it being an issue as a local chap drives about with his hose reel bolted on one of his van rear doors and has been doing that for years. Just got himself a brand new van too and he obviously likes it set up that way as done the same to that one.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: Spruce on April 07, 2017, 09:01:27 pm
I would be more concerned with the position of that motor and drive chain. If it going to remain there it needs a chain guard.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: Smurf on April 07, 2017, 09:12:06 pm
I would be more concerned with the position of that motor and drive chain. If it going to remain there it needs a chain guard.

That is what I thought too Spruce... Looks leather especially if a child starts messing about as the van door is left open.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: nathankaye on April 08, 2017, 12:34:34 am
I would be more concerned with the position of that motor and drive chain. If it going to remain there it needs a chain guard.

That is what I thought too Spruce... Looks leather especially if a child starts messing about as the van door is left open.

For insurance purposes and legality i will draft up a sign giving warning not to put kids fingers into chain and turn on and if do so its at your own risk!!  There we go, i can sleep peacefully at night now  ;D ;D
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: Dave Willis on April 08, 2017, 07:11:52 am
I don't think socks are ideal safety wear either.

Shouldn't be allowed! I  :og
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: Michael Peterson on April 08, 2017, 10:55:43 am
Heel hooks are alowed no-gi however in the gi not until blackbelt , your not allowed to reap the knee either
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: Smurf on April 08, 2017, 12:29:45 pm
I would be more concerned with the position of that motor and drive chain. If it going to remain there it needs a chain guard.

That is what I thought too Spruce... Looks leather especially if a child starts messing about as the van door is left open.

For insurance purposes and legality i will draft up a sign giving warning not to put kids fingers into chain and turn on and if do so its at your own risk!!  There we go, i can sleep peacefully at night now  ;D ;D

I would not joke about things like that especially if you have got children yourself. Just put a bloody chain guard on it...Job done
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: Spruce on April 08, 2017, 01:55:35 pm
I would be more concerned with the position of that motor and drive chain. If it going to remain there it needs a chain guard.

That is what I thought too Spruce... Looks leather especially if a child starts messing about as the van door is left open.

For insurance purposes and legality i will draft up a sign giving warning not to put kids fingers into chain and turn on and if do so its at your own risk!!  There we go, i can sleep peacefully at night now  ;D ;D

I would not joke about things like that especially if you have got children yourself. Just put a bloody chain guard on it...Job done

I agree with you Smurf. If machines in a factory don't have suitable guards H&S will sort it out long before there is an accident if someone reports it.  Displaying warning notices won't make any difference.

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Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: slap bash on April 08, 2017, 02:09:28 pm
I have the same guide fitted to an arm which folds flat into the side of my van so the hose does not scratch my paintwork or get stuck into my van sliding door.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: Shrek on April 08, 2017, 04:09:53 pm
I would be more concerned with the position of that motor and drive chain. If it going to remain there it needs a chain guard.

That is what I thought too Spruce... Looks leather especially if a child starts messing about as the van door is left open.

For insurance purposes and legality i will draft up a sign giving warning not to put kids fingers into chain and turn on and if do so its at your own risk!!  There we go, i can sleep peacefully at night now  ;D ;D

Hmm don't think a 3 year old would take any notice of a sign
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: nathankaye on April 08, 2017, 04:53:38 pm
I would be more concerned with the position of that motor and drive chain. If it going to remain there it needs a chain guard.

That is what I thought too Spruce... Looks leather especially if a child starts messing about as the van door is left open.

For insurance purposes and legality i will draft up a sign giving warning not to put kids fingers into chain and turn on and if do so its at your own risk!!  There we go, i can sleep peacefully at night now  ;D ;D

Hmm don't think a 3 year old would take any notice of a sign

What 3yr old is allowed to run out on the streets by themselves. Mine certainly didnt n doesnt and certainly knows not to go into other people's car. Thats one of the many first things i teach my kids, along lines of no talking to strangers and if it aint your dont touch.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: Shrek on April 08, 2017, 05:10:04 pm
You've done the hard bit Nathan , how hard is it to fit a guard ? Keeps you safe and any curious little kids
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: Bungle on April 08, 2017, 07:57:47 pm
That hose guide won't last an hour. Bin it.
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: nathankaye on April 08, 2017, 11:01:50 pm
That hose guide won't last an hour. Bin it.

I wondered if it would help compared to what i usually do and its made it a little easier if im.working at a 90degree angle from van. So a cheap trial has helped eith that and its lasted 5 days so far so quite surprised as well
Title: Re: is this allowed??
Post by: CleanClear on April 09, 2017, 07:20:02 pm
Nathan, you could fit a thin bar behind the bumper and bolt the hose guide, as opposed to them screws (or what look like screws) ?