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Title: hearty breakfast
Post by: nathankaye on March 23, 2017, 09:18:45 am
One small aspect to getting alot of work done;  combined with an early start is a hearty breakfast and a coffee. After which im not hungry until evening. Allowing you to simply concentrate on banging the work out, especially if like my day today its just house after house and all in the same block.
All you need after is just a bottle of water for rest of the day.

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Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: jk999 on March 23, 2017, 09:24:37 am
😁lol
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Dry Clean on March 23, 2017, 09:34:59 am
Nathan, Nathan, Nathan we have just got Tosh calmed down on the subject of high fat eating your going to wake him up again,
(roll eyes) lol.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Dry Clean on March 23, 2017, 09:35:53 am
Oh maybe not, Iv just spotted the carbs.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Marc Stock on March 23, 2017, 09:45:02 am
Careful Nathan.

I used to do the same, after 6 years of breakfasts like that I ended up in a & e with sky high billurben levels and a pain that I could not explan.  Though  I was actually going to die.

Turns out my Gallbladder was giving up and I scarred the bile duct, due to our active job a high fat diet can be hidden as we tend to burn off the calories we consume.

Fortunatly a change of diet was what brought things back for me, and I didn't need a gallbladder removal.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: nathankaye on March 23, 2017, 09:56:16 am
Appreciate the concern Mark. This isnt an everyday breaky but when im doing work which is all very condensed then i get tucked into this breaky.

Lol, i did read once in a mans health mag that having a cooked breakfast can be fitted into a diet regime as it fills you for the day and stops snacking...........however im not sold on that idea because of the fat in take.....but every now n then it cant hurt
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: 8weekly on March 23, 2017, 10:03:10 am
Careful Nathan.

I used to do the same, after 6 years of breakfasts like that I ended up in a & e with sky high billurben levels and a pain that I could not explan.  Though  I was actually going to die.

Turns out my Gallbladder was giving up and I scarred the bile duct, due to our active job a high fat diet can be hidden as we tend to burn off the calories we consume.

Fortunatly a change of diet was what brought things back for me, and I didn't need a gallbladder removal.
I'm sure Tosh could disprove this with a few Google searches and a couple of red arrows.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Marc Stock on March 23, 2017, 10:08:25 am
Appreciate the concern Mark. This isnt an everyday breaky but when im doing work which is all very condensed then i get tucked into this breaky.

Lol, i did read once in a mans health mag that having a cooked breakfast can be fitted into a diet regime as it fills you for the day and stops snacking...........however im not sold on that idea because of the fat in take.....but every now n then it cant hurt

Lol just make sure your 'Hearty' breakfast doesn't turn into a' Hearty Attacky' Breakfast.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Shrek on March 23, 2017, 10:17:12 am
Looks like a heart attack breakfast to me
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Dry Clean on March 23, 2017, 10:17:32 am
Careful Nathan.

I used to do the same, after 6 years of breakfasts like that I ended up in a & e with sky high billurben levels and a pain that I could not explan.  Though  I was actually going to die.

Turns out my Gallbladder was giving up and I scarred the bile duct, due to our active job a high fat diet can be hidden as we tend to burn off the calories we consume.

Fortunatly a change of diet was what brought things back for me, and I didn't need a gallbladder removal.
I'm sure Tosh could disprove this with a few Google searches and a couple of red arrows.

He would blame the bread and beans.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Dry Clean on March 23, 2017, 10:20:16 am
Looks like a heart attack breakfast to me

You've just opened Pandora's box with that statement, prepare for some cutting and pasting toped up with red arrows. (shock)
lol.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: 8weekly on March 23, 2017, 01:26:52 pm
Looks like a heart attack breakfast to me

You've just opened Pandora's box with that statement, prepare for some cutting and pasting toped up with red arrows. (shock)
lol.
And a few "mates" if you disagree.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Smurf on March 23, 2017, 03:36:40 pm
Nothing wrong with having a full English once in a while but I would get sick of it everyday in more ways than one.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: robbo333 on March 23, 2017, 03:54:07 pm
I've just been diagnosed with Coeliac disease...gluten free bread...yum!  :'(
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Smurf on March 23, 2017, 03:56:33 pm
I've just been diagnosed with Coeliac disease...gluten free bread...yum!  :'(

Sorry to hear that bud.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Shrek on March 23, 2017, 04:16:53 pm
Nothing wrong with a big breakfast, I eat cereal and then scrambled egg + a coffee every morning, but all that will clog your arteries up one day.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: paul alan on March 23, 2017, 04:54:52 pm
Fats actualy slow you way down!

Try intermittant fasting its awesome, i dont eat till after work at all. Just coffee for me and water. Because your system isnt busy digesting food your brain is 100% switched on, focus and energy abound.

I have lost 12lb of bodyfat this year this way. And its realy healthy for you too,its boost your igf(growth hormone) levels by 2000%.
it aslo stabilises your blood sugar levels and is scientificaly proven to help you live longer(google benefits of Intermittant fasting)

Then later on in the day you get to feast like a king! And its the best damn food youve had in ages cos your starving for it.
Im on a -25% calorie deficit and still get to eat like a king, just save up all my cals for the last half of the day.
All my lifts in the gym have pretty much remained the same and i have gone from around 18% body fat to around 14%
A few more months and i'll have the coverted 6 pack back whist retaining nearly all my muscle.

Its not the faint hearted(fairies) but once you get used to it its an awesome way of life. Just think not having the hassle of making brekkie and taking the time to sit and eat it in the morning, just get ready n go. Have bags of energy and focus, be in great shape
and improve all your health markers. Win wni win.

Just imagine how much easier your job would be without carrying around all that bodyfat

Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Marc Stock on March 23, 2017, 05:50:13 pm
Fats actualy slow you way down!

Try intermittant fasting its awesome, i dont eat till after work at all. Just coffee for me and water. Because your system isnt busy digesting food your brain is 100% switched on, focus and energy abound.

I have lost 12lb of bodyfat this year this way. And its realy healthy for you too,its boost your igf(growth hormone) levels by 2000%.
it aslo stabilises your blood sugar levels and is scientificaly proven to help you live longer(google benefits of Intermittant fasting)

Then later on in the day you get to feast like a king! And its the best damn food youve had in ages cos your starving for it.
Im on a -25% calorie deficit and still get to eat like a king, just save up all my cals for the last half of the day.
All my lifts in the gym have pretty much remained the same and i have gone from around 18% body fat to around 14%
A few more months and i'll have the coverted 6 pack back whist retaining nearly all my muscle.

Its not the faint hearted(fairies) but once you get used to it its an awesome way of life. Just think not having the hassle of making brekkie and taking the time to sit and eat it in the morning, just get ready n go. Have bags of energy and focus, be in great shape
and improve all your health markers. Win wni win.

Just imagine how much easier your job would be without carrying around all that bodyfat
..

How do you cope with the lighted head feeling.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: dazmond on March 23, 2017, 06:27:27 pm
i couldnt stand not eating breakfast!its what gets me out of bed in the morning! ;D

its virtually always oatmeal or weetabix with milk and various fruits depending what ive got in(blueberries/strawberries/bananas etc) and 3 or 4 large boiled eggs plus tea and coffee.2 cod liver oil capsules,b vitamin and a multivitamin. ;)
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Tony dunmall on March 23, 2017, 06:34:49 pm
I tried the intermittent fasting one year, it is quiet true you can work fine and feel okay lost about 1.5 Stone over the 6 months

I don't do it now, just calorie count( just to help me give value to what I eat, as I can jut graze all evening), I  watch what i eat good clean food more protein as we're working our muscles harder, sadly as  we get older most just can't eat like we were 18 anymore😢

I'm fortunate always had really good sugar level's so I've never suffered from light headedness when not eating


Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: paul alan on March 23, 2017, 06:47:09 pm
i couldnt stand not eating breakfast!its what gets me out of bed in the morning! ;D

its virtually always oatmeal or weetabix with milk and various fruits depending what ive got in(blueberries/strawberries/bananas etc) and 3 or 4 large boiled eggs plus tea and coffee.2 cod liver oil capsules,b vitamin and a multivitamin. ;)
i have 2 fishoil  with chopped raw garlic and chopped raw ginger. I cup of green tea with sqeezed lemon in it.

Then just coffee till after work 3pm ish.
Then its organic oats with raisins and natural pnutbutter.
Sweet potatoes with chicken and broccoli
Skyr with blueberries and strawberries
Avocado and egg salad
Whey protein in water
100ml pommy juice
200 cals leftover for chocolate
Totals 2400kcals which is 75% of my maintenance
190g protein
250g carbs
90g fats
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: paul alan on March 23, 2017, 06:48:07 pm
Fats actualy slow you way down!

Try intermittant fasting its awesome, i dont eat till after work at all. Just coffee for me and water. Because your system isnt busy digesting food your brain is 100% switched on, focus and energy abound.

I have lost 12lb of bodyfat this year this way. And its realy healthy for you too,its boost your igf(growth hormone) levels by 2000%.
it aslo stabilises your blood sugar levels and is scientificaly proven to help you live longer(google benefits of Intermittant fasting)

Then later on in the day you get to feast like a king! And its the best damn food youve had in ages cos your starving for it.
Im on a -25% calorie deficit and still get to eat like a king, just save up all my cals for the last half of the day.
All my lifts in the gym have pretty much remained the same and i have gone from around 18% body fat to around 14%
A few more months and i'll have the coverted 6 pack back whist retaining nearly all my muscle.

Its not the faint hearted(fairies) but once you get used to it its an awesome way of life. Just think not having the hassle of making brekkie and taking the time to sit and eat it in the morning, just get ready n go. Have bags of energy and focus, be in great shape
and improve all your health markers. Win wni win.

Just imagine how much easier your job would be without carrying around all that bodyfat
..

How do you cope with the lighted head feeling.
dont get it after a week, you body adjusts!
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: dazmond on March 23, 2017, 07:20:11 pm
i couldnt stand not eating breakfast!its what gets me out of bed in the morning! ;D

its virtually always oatmeal or weetabix with milk and various fruits depending what ive got in(blueberries/strawberries/bananas etc) and 3 or 4 large boiled eggs plus tea and coffee.2 cod liver oil capsules,b vitamin and a multivitamin. ;)
i have 2 fishoil  with chopped raw garlic and chopped raw ginger. I cup of green tea with sqeezed lemon in it.

Then just coffee till after work 3pm ish.
Then its organic oats with raisins and natural pnutbutter.
Sweet potatoes with chicken and broccoli
Skyr with blueberries and strawberries
Avocado and egg salad
Whey protein in water
100ml pommy juice
200 cals leftover for chocolate
Totals 2400kcals which is 75% of my maintenance
190g protein
250g carbs
90g fats

so you dont eat any food til after 3pm?sounds awful to me! ;D

raw garlic for breakfast?are you serious? :o
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Marc Stock on March 23, 2017, 07:46:41 pm
No kisses please  ;D
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: paul alan on March 23, 2017, 07:53:35 pm
i couldnt stand not eating breakfast!its what gets me out of bed in the morning! ;D

its virtually always oatmeal or weetabix with milk and various fruits depending what ive got in(blueberries/strawberries/bananas etc) and 3 or 4 large boiled eggs plus tea and coffee.2 cod liver oil capsules,b vitamin and a multivitamin. ;)
i have 2 fishoil  with chopped raw garlic and chopped raw ginger. I cup of green tea with sqeezed lemon in it.

Then just coffee till after work 3pm ish.
Then its organic oats with raisins and natural pnutbutter.
Sweet potatoes with chicken and broccoli
Skyr with blueberries and strawberries
Avocado and egg salad
Whey protein in water
100ml pommy juice
200 cals leftover for chocolate
Totals 2400kcals which is 75% of my maintenance
190g protein
250g carbs
90g fats

so you dont eat any food til after 3pm?sounds awful to me! ;D

raw garlic for breakfast?are you serious? :o
100% i screwed myself up in the past. Stress, recreationals, used to drink bottles of brandy straight out the bottle.
Caused some issues and am now trying to put it right.
Got a 4 year old boy and a 10 yr old girl and want to be around for them.
I still like takeaways n stuff but i go by the 80/20 rule, 80% bob on 20% empty cals(crap)
All the nutrients i eat are researched and have variuos health benefits.
I screwed up my endocrine system and im balancing it by lowering eostrogen and cortisol( bad hormones in excess)
And maximising testosterone(bad in lack-my problem) espesialy as ive been working out for 20 years.

I am a true believer in the healing powers of food as medicine, i was told by docs i would be on trt(testosterone replacement therapy for life) which is a dangarous synthetic drug. I declined and researched obsessively to see what i could do myself, i discovered the power of nutrition and have increased my testosterone level by 50% through diet, lifestyle change, simple meditations, limiting exposure to chemicals like paraban,sls,bpa, phylates etc found in shampoo, shower gel, toothpaste, pestesides on fruit n veg(go organic) drink filtered water out of chemical free drinking water bottles(bpa free).

I went to see the endocrinologist at the hospital and he says i dont need trt now.

It sounds like a ballache but its not that bad, if it means im not meds for life. Meds which will most likely shorten my life.

I have even recently quit caffeine, all decaff now which has more or less stopped heart palps.

I take 5000iu of vitamin d each day and eat spinach like crisps, must be working cos the nurse said i look like poppeye ha!

People prolly think im mad, suppose i am a bit, suppose we all are a bit!
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Dry Clean on March 23, 2017, 07:53:55 pm
He wont get any customers holding him back with chitchat that's for sure. lol.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: paul alan on March 23, 2017, 08:03:37 pm
He wont get any customers holding him back with chitchat that's for sure. lol.
hahaha.. i wish. Time theives i call em.
I dont talk like that all the time, just because the subject came up.
I dont let it rule my life, i did the research, implemented the changes and now its just normal to me.
On with life, a healthier one.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Dry Clean on March 23, 2017, 08:08:48 pm
He wont get any customers holding him back with chitchat that's for sure. lol.
hahaha.. i wish. Time theives i call em.
I dont talk like that all the time, just because the subject came up.
I dont let it rule my life, i did the research, implemented the changes and now its just normal to me.
On with life, a healthier one.

I meant your garlic for breakfast (breath) not your conversation. lol.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: paul alan on March 23, 2017, 08:16:09 pm
He wont get any customers holding him back with chitchat that's for sure. lol.
hahaha.. i wish. Time theives i call em.
I dont talk like that all the time, just because the subject came up.
I dont let it rule my life, i did the research, implemented the changes and now its just normal to me.
On with life, a healthier one.

I meant your garlic for breakfast (breath) not your conversation. lol.
haha..o right yeah. I chop it into little cubes and swallow them with water.
Still must stink though..
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: G Griffin on March 23, 2017, 10:13:48 pm
Coffee instead of John Smiths, ya girl?
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: paul alan on March 24, 2017, 08:03:14 am
Coffee instead of John Smiths, ya girl?
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1490342419_pauls iphone 26  01  2017 036.JPG)
dont get someone who has self discipline confused with a wimp!

at 6"3 and 15st no one has ever called me a girl to my face.

140k bench
200k deadlifts
60k curls

being disciplined actualy makes you more of a man i would argue.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Jonny 87 on March 24, 2017, 06:23:24 pm
i couldnt stand not eating breakfast!its what gets me out of bed in the morning! ;D

its virtually always oatmeal or weetabix with milk and various fruits depending what ive got in(blueberries/strawberries/bananas etc) and 3 or 4 large boiled eggs plus tea and coffee.2 cod liver oil capsules,b vitamin and a multivitamin. ;)
i have 2 fishoil  with chopped raw garlic and chopped raw ginger. I cup of green tea with sqeezed lemon in it.

Then just coffee till after work 3pm ish.
Then its organic oats with raisins and natural pnutbutter.
Sweet potatoes with chicken and broccoli
Skyr with blueberries and strawberries
Avocado and egg salad
Whey protein in water
100ml pommy juice
200 cals leftover for chocolate
Totals 2400kcals which is 75% of my maintenance
190g protein
250g carbs
90g fats

so you dont eat any food til after 3pm?sounds awful to me! ;D

raw garlic for breakfast?are you serious? :o
100% i screwed myself up in the past. Stress, recreationals, used to drink bottles of brandy straight out the bottle.
Caused some issues and am now trying to put it right.
Got a 4 year old boy and a 10 yr old girl and want to be around for them.
I still like takeaways n stuff but i go by the 80/20 rule, 80% bob on 20% empty cals(crap)
All the nutrients i eat are researched and have variuos health benefits.
I screwed up my endocrine system and im balancing it by lowering eostrogen and cortisol( bad hormones in excess)
And maximising testosterone(bad in lack-my problem) espesialy as ive been working out for 20 years.

I am a true believer in the healing powers of food as medicine, i was told by docs i would be on trt(testosterone replacement therapy for life) which is a dangarous synthetic drug. I declined and researched obsessively to see what i could do myself, i discovered the power of nutrition and have increased my testosterone level by 50% through diet, lifestyle change, simple meditations, limiting exposure to chemicals like paraban,sls,bpa, phylates etc found in shampoo, shower gel, toothpaste, pestesides on fruit n veg(go organic) drink filtered water out of chemical free drinking water bottles(bpa free).

I went to see the endocrinologist at the hospital and he says i dont need trt now.

It sounds like a ballache but its not that bad, if it means im not meds for life. Meds which will most likely shorten my life.

I have even recently quit caffeine, all decaff now which has more or less stopped heart palps.

I take 5000iu of vitamin d each day and eat spinach like crisps, must be working cos the nurse said i look like poppeye ha!

People prolly think im mad, suppose i am a bit, suppose we all are a bit!

Have you been to the doctors about your "bad testosterone" levels?

They can prescribe trt which gets a lot of bad flack, but if you look into it and when it's medically necessary it can help out a lot.
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: robbo333 on March 24, 2017, 06:48:53 pm
Listening to you lot, I think I'll stick with my Coeliac disease. My new diet makes me feel awesome.  ;D
Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: paul alan on March 24, 2017, 08:32:51 pm
i couldnt stand not eating breakfast!its what gets me out of bed in the morning! ;D

its virtually always oatmeal or weetabix with milk and various fruits depending what ive got in(blueberries/strawberries/bananas etc) and 3 or 4 large boiled eggs plus tea and coffee.2 cod liver oil capsules,b vitamin and a multivitamin. ;)
i have 2 fishoil  with chopped raw garlic and chopped raw ginger. I cup of green tea with sqeezed lemon in it.

Then just coffee till after work 3pm ish.
Then its organic oats with raisins and natural pnutbutter.
Sweet potatoes with chicken and broccoli
Skyr with blueberries and strawberries
Avocado and egg salad
Whey protein in water
100ml pommy juice
200 cals leftover for chocolate
Totals 2400kcals which is 75% of my maintenance
190g protein
250g carbs
90g fats

so you dont eat any food til after 3pm?sounds awful to me! ;D

raw garlic for breakfast?are you serious? :o
100% i screwed myself up in the past. Stress, recreationals, used to drink bottles of brandy straight out the bottle.
Caused some issues and am now trying to put it right.
Got a 4 year old boy and a 10 yr old girl and want to be around for them.
I still like takeaways n stuff but i go by the 80/20 rule, 80% bob on 20% empty cals(crap)
All the nutrients i eat are researched and have variuos health benefits.
I screwed up my endocrine system and im balancing it by lowering eostrogen and cortisol( bad hormones in excess)
And maximising testosterone(bad in lack-my problem) espesialy as ive been working out for 20 years.

I am a true believer in the healing powers of food as medicine, i was told by docs i would be on trt(testosterone replacement therapy for life) which is a dangarous synthetic drug. I declined and researched obsessively to see what i could do myself, i discovered the power of nutrition and have increased my testosterone level by 50% through diet, lifestyle change, simple meditations, limiting exposure to chemicals like paraban,sls,bpa, phylates etc found in shampoo, shower gel, toothpaste, pestesides on fruit n veg(go organic) drink filtered water out of chemical free drinking water bottles(bpa free).

I went to see the endocrinologist at the hospital and he says i dont need trt now.

It sounds like a ballache but its not that bad, if it means im not meds for life. Meds which will most likely shorten my life.

I have even recently quit caffeine, all decaff now which has more or less stopped heart palps.

I take 5000iu of vitamin d each day and eat spinach like crisps, must be working cos the nurse said i look like poppeye ha!

People prolly think im mad, suppose i am a bit, suppose we all are a bit!

Have you been to the doctors about your "bad testosterone" levels?

They can prescribe trt which gets a lot of bad flack, but if you look into it and when it's medically necessary it can help out a lot.
Been going to "specialists" for 2 years.

They have no clue, it seems i know more about the subject than the ones im seeing do, not inspiring.

Its fairly new in this country and i agree when its needed its a good thing.
But in the wrong hands its a dangerous thing, and the docs in wales know little about it. In america they are much more clued up and carry out all the required checks as when you administer testosterone you also alter other hormones like eostrogen etc
and they just dont test for stuff like that over here.

The endocrinologist im seeing at my local hospital cant even answer simple questions about it, i googled specialist in endocrinology and found a professor in wrexham who has agreed to see me, im on a waiting list for that.

Title: Re: hearty breakfast
Post by: Jonny 87 on March 24, 2017, 09:31:20 pm
i couldnt stand not eating breakfast!its what gets me out of bed in the morning! ;D

its virtually always oatmeal or weetabix with milk and various fruits depending what ive got in(blueberries/strawberries/bananas etc) and 3 or 4 large boiled eggs plus tea and coffee.2 cod liver oil capsules,b vitamin and a multivitamin. ;)
i have 2 fishoil  with chopped raw garlic and chopped raw ginger. I cup of green tea with sqeezed lemon in it.

Then just coffee till after work 3pm ish.
Then its organic oats with raisins and natural pnutbutter.
Sweet potatoes with chicken and broccoli
Skyr with blueberries and strawberries
Avocado and egg salad
Whey protein in water
100ml pommy juice
200 cals leftover for chocolate
Totals 2400kcals which is 75% of my maintenance
190g protein
250g carbs
90g fats

so you dont eat any food til after 3pm?sounds awful to me! ;D

raw garlic for breakfast?are you serious? :o
100% i screwed myself up in the past. Stress, recreationals, used to drink bottles of brandy straight out the bottle.
Caused some issues and am now trying to put it right.
Got a 4 year old boy and a 10 yr old girl and want to be around for them.
I still like takeaways n stuff but i go by the 80/20 rule, 80% bob on 20% empty cals(crap)
All the nutrients i eat are researched and have variuos health benefits.
I screwed up my endocrine system and im balancing it by lowering eostrogen and cortisol( bad hormones in excess)
And maximising testosterone(bad in lack-my problem) espesialy as ive been working out for 20 years.

I am a true believer in the healing powers of food as medicine, i was told by docs i would be on trt(testosterone replacement therapy for life) which is a dangarous synthetic drug. I declined and researched obsessively to see what i could do myself, i discovered the power of nutrition and have increased my testosterone level by 50% through diet, lifestyle change, simple meditations, limiting exposure to chemicals like paraban,sls,bpa, phylates etc found in shampoo, shower gel, toothpaste, pestesides on fruit n veg(go organic) drink filtered water out of chemical free drinking water bottles(bpa free).

I went to see the endocrinologist at the hospital and he says i dont need trt now.

It sounds like a ballache but its not that bad, if it means im not meds for life. Meds which will most likely shorten my life.

I have even recently quit caffeine, all decaff now which has more or less stopped heart palps.

I take 5000iu of vitamin d each day and eat spinach like crisps, must be working cos the nurse said i look like poppeye ha!

People prolly think im mad, suppose i am a bit, suppose we all are a bit!

Have you been to the doctors about your "bad testosterone" levels?

They can prescribe trt which gets a lot of bad flack, but if you look into it and when it's medically necessary it can help out a lot.
Been going to "specialists" for 2 years.

They have no clue, it seems i know more about the subject than the ones im seeing do, not inspiring.

Its fairly new in this country and i agree when its needed its a good thing.
But in the wrong hands its a dangerous thing, and the docs in wales know little about it. In america they are much more clued up and carry out all the required checks as when you administer testosterone you also alter other hormones like eostrogen etc
and they just dont test for stuff like that over here.

The endocrinologist im seeing at my local hospital cant even answer simple questions about it, i googled specialist in endocrinology and found a professor in wrexham who has agreed to see me, im on a waiting list for that.

Good old NHS ae.

Must admit that ones I've known who are on trt have been overseas.  They need to have regular blood work done to make sure all there other levels are ok, but it doesn't seem a major issue. The dose of testosterone is very minimal really. Just enough to boost back up to your normal levels for your age.

I'm Surprised there isn't more specialists in the U.K.