Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: N collins on February 13, 2017, 08:07:34 pm
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i have booked canvassers to build a round for me in march and they have been great to deal with so far and very helpful with advise etc, the fact that they let you clean the work before you pay makes it a lot less risky for me, people in this area are charging 7x for rounds which is a lot of cash, are starting to cover all the uk now instead of just the south
Modded; looks like spam to me; first post saying how great a canvassing company is. Do me a favour, if you wish to advertise, contact admin.
If this is gen, hang around a while, post, help, join us in the off-topic area - whatever - but at least try to look like a member, rather than an advertiser.
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sounds too good to be true pal...
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They do get booked up pal but are confident in what they do so not asking for money up front, they even load customers on to cleaner planner for you
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Iv often thought about using a canvassing service as i have no luck door knocking but leafleting has been very lucky to my round,and when i send my wife out leafleting she allways comes back with a few new jobs. But i worry what sort of work a man who just wants to build a round for you weather its low priced,poop access,just your one off wonder customers is doing for you in the long run? most want 3x what they get you and are long gone once you are 2 months in when you find out.
Be nice to see if this is as good as it sounds and i hope it is and wish you all the best for the future n collin.
Keep me posted as i might consider giving them a go as i will soon have a spear van.
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whats the name of this company ?
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It's wildfire marketing
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Btw this is not advertising as I have no connection to this company but just wanted to share how they have been to deal with, my business is Collins window cleaning specialists and we are in grimsby
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Btw this is not advertising as I have no connection to this company but just wanted to share how they have been to deal with, my business is Collins window cleaning specialists and we are in grimsby
Fair one; maybe you'd like to give a proper review in about four months after they've finished?
Most of the complaints I've read about canvassing companies seems to happen in the following months.
But I'm sure you can understand my suspicion; what with this being your first post.
Apologies for reading it wrongly, and welcome to the forum, 'n' all that.
Tosh
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Yes no probs I can see why you would think that, will def let you know how it all goes, just trying to expand my business and I'm reluctant to pay silly prices to buy a round
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Peekeclean....do you employ some of your staff from the Zulu community..... ;D
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They do get booked up pal but are confident in what they do so not asking for money up front, they even load customers on to cleaner planner for you
Hmmm...so I take it to do that you had to give them admin rights to your cleaner planner account?
If that is the case you must be very trusting.
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It's wildfire marketing
Just had a quick google and cant find anything on them do you have any contact details or links
regards
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It's wildfire marketing
Just had a quick google and cant find anything on them do you have any contact details or links
regards
http://www.wildfireml.co.uk/
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southern counties window cleaning has same phone number
https://www.facebook.com/southerncountieswindowcleaning/posts/1679240879022936
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I spoke to the guy on the phone last night and he sounds ok, he a window cleaner himself and has availability which is good for me.
Im more than likely going to invest in him soon, he knows what good/bad work is and is willing to travel to north wales and stay in humble accomodation to keep costs down.
If all goes well i'll be bringing them up asap and will let everyone know how it goes.
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Paul alan. How many arms do you have?
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What do they say something about "sounds to good to be true."
What is the catch or con I'm thinking?
Alarm bells would also ring giving a total stranger access to your cleaner planner account surely?
I'm sure I read recently about a guy offering this kind of service, conned a few then got banged up.
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I used a few of the well known canvassers. Spend about 6 grand so far. Got some more booked for later this year.
Its pretty much the same deal with them all. They get you the work but cannot control how good a customer they will be in the long run. With the guy I currently use out of the 600 he canvasses me per time I expect 100 to drop off before the first clean the drop offs over the next few cleans as you weed out the non payers and messers.
When all said and done after 6 months if you have half of what was canvassed left you have done pretty well.
It works out about the same as buying as round. About 5-6 times. The good thing is you get to decide where the work is and any stipulations.
A good canvasser will do exactly as you ask I. E no terrace no council no poor access etc. A crap canvasser will get you any old dross just to get paid.
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Mod note: If you want to advertise, contact admin first.
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Sounds good to me.
I used a guy of ebay. Charged x3 cleans. He is a wfp window cleaner. Sounded fine on the phone.
I asked for 1 to 2k of work. He said easy. Off he went. To cut it short, he got £200 of work. He was straight enough. Asked if it was any good to me.
Took it anyway. A few places were out of what area I said, but pricing wasn't bad at all. Most £10 jobs came in at what I would charge, but he got the odd £30 job where i would charge £20. Then the odd WTF was you thinking charging £12 when its more like £20, but 90% was spot on.
3 months on and only lost 1 Asian customer....what did I say
The part I didn't like was handing money over before he gave me the customers/I told him to stick it. Glad it wasn't £2k. No way would I hand over money and get nothing in return. He gave me them and I payed the same evening, AFTER I checked by phoning some.
Paying after first clean is fantastic
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we just give a leaflet to some we know will be messers and run as some can be a pain, one clean wonders we call them lol
mod edit. please be careful in postings
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Paul alan. How many arms do you have?
same as you mick, 2. (STRONG ONES)
intruiged????
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Some thief on here about 5 years back named P Alan or maybe P Allen from down south tried conning a few people on here, i was 1 of them by selling stuff that didnt exist by paying into his bank to not send out. No offence meant, i saw the name which triggeredthe weird question as later found out he only had 1 arm. If you search the name P alan or P allen on here you will prob see.
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Paul if you are the the one armed windy who has been seen jousting windows in the north IM OUT ;D ;D ;D
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we just give a leaflet to most modded people and run most seem to be a pain in the arse , one clean wonders we call them lol
What a dick.
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Some thief on here about 5 years back named P Alan or maybe P Allen from down south tried conning a few people on here, i was 1 of them by selling stuff that didnt exist by paying into his bank to not send out. No offence meant, i saw the name which triggeredthe weird question as later found out he only had 1 arm. If you search the name P alan or P allen on here you will prob see.
defo no one armed bandit here!
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Funny how old N Collins hasnt been back on. (Im guessing he will real soon though ;D)
Seriously though just pay and advertise and do it properly as your not coming across professional at all with your how great you are speech not turning anyone away!, pay and get a decent website built where your easily found, that way you wont need to come on forums making out your the best thing since sliced bread. Show some happy clients(not just 1 or 2) that can back up your statements and if the work you target is any good.
I don't think anyone will be as good as Mark Whizzbizz for canvassing and keeping to his word, he has been out there for 4/5 years now and always is fully booked so id say he is the safest bet to use although you will have a waiting list before he will start but that to me speaks volumes that he has companies queuing up to use him.
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Funny how old N Collins hasnt been back on. (Im guessing he will real soon though ;D)
Seriously though just pay and advertise and do it properly as your not coming across professional at all with your how great you are speech not turning anyone away!, pay and get a decent website built where your easily found, that way you wont need to come on forums making out your the best thing since sliced bread. Show some happy clients(not just 1 or 2) that can back up your statements and if the work you target is any good.
I don't think anyone will be as good as Mark Whizzbizz for canvassing and keeping to his word, he has been out there for 4/5 years now and always is fully booked so id say he is the safest bet to use although you will have a waiting list before he will start but that to me speaks volumes that he has companies queuing up to use him.
But he only does down South
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The biggest domestic places we clean are all owned by foreigners. Bankers, but foreigners. I wouldn’t cast aspersions about the invaders - they pay good money.
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There used to be a one-armed window cleaner work around here.
I don’t know his name, but I used to see him occasionally in a village called Little London between Basingstoke and Reading.
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Call me thick but I still don't get why people need to pay out 5-6 times the cost or whatever to get a canvasser in.
It's not that difficult to build a profitable business up yourselves surely?
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I haven't been on here since as I'm out trying to build my business, I was only letting other window cleaners know that I had found this company good to deal with, I have nothing to gain from promoting them and if they don't deliver I will let everyone know. It makes no sense to waste time door knocking if you got the money to get a company to get you a lot more work in a short space of time while I'm out cleaning
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See :o :o :o
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Not everyone is comfortable with canvassing and leaflets and facebook can take a very long time so a company is ideal to get work fast. Yes it costs a lot of money but so does buying work. Employing your own canvasser on an hourly wage would be the best option but not very easy to find anyone.
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Call me thick but I still don't get why people need to pay out 5-6 times the cost or whatever to get a canvasser in.
It's not that difficult to build a profitable business up yourselves surely?
Depends where in l live prices are crap. I can post leaflets and fb all day long but I struggle to get decent prices. Laat week i had 6 fb enquiriea and only got 1 at my prices. I could have had them all if i went in cheap..With a company they only take on work at the prices I want so its expensive but worth it on the long run. No point building up a cheap round might as well take the hit and look long term.
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Yes I would rather pay a canvasser because I'm crap at knocking on doors rather be earning money and paying some out for the work doing for me.
Each to their own....I could decorate the house myself but I would rather go out and work 2 days and give that 2 days to a decorator.
He'll take 2 days and has all the gear and will do a better job....I will take 2 w/e days and have to buy brushes etc and not do as good a job.....and to top it all off I'll hate every minute of it.
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Mod note to all forum members:
Please do not put a person's race in your posts as having any relevance to suitability as a prospective customer.
Last warning.
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;D
Peekeclean....do you employ some of your staff from the Zulu community..... ;D
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i personally dont clean houses of people who are moderators on forums, those type are nothing but trouble ;D
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Personally I wouldn't canvass Eskimos! ;D
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Personally I wouldn't canvass Eskimos! ;D
They don't need tents they've got igloos.
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Funny how old N Collins hasnt been back on. (Im guessing he will real soon though ;D)
Seriously though just pay and advertise and do it properly as your not coming across professional at all with your how great you are speech not turning anyone away!, pay and get a decent website built where your easily found, that way you wont need to come on forums making out your the best thing since sliced bread. Show some happy clients(not just 1 or 2) that can back up your statements and if the work you target is any good.
I don't think anyone will be as good as Mark Whizzbizz for canvassing and keeping to his word, he has been out there for 4/5 years now and always is fully booked so id say he is the safest bet to use although you will have a waiting list before he will start but that to me speaks volumes that he has companies queuing up to use him.
Mod note: If you want to advertise, contact admin first.
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Fair do's then.
Although the front only hits Mark gets shows he is not greedy as 99 percent of the customers will want there backs doing after the first clean too meaning the window cleaner cant lose as long as they do a good first clean, and with the first clean being just the front it means can spend that extra time getting it right. I think its clever how he goes for the front only without the greed to charge x2/x3 for whole houses like i used too as was only in it for the greed and quick pound note from guys who wouldnt canvass themselfs(not to say i ripped anyone off) as i always replaced dropouts or refunded money back. It is a verey clever way Mark does it which keeps him at top.
Its not hard to be listed on first page google as a window cleaning canvasser as there arnt many at all about.
If your hapf as good as Mark im guessing you will do well.
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I'm my forma life many years ago I was a dg salesman too.
That is probably why I don't find it that difficult to gain work unlike some as if you can sell a front door at £700 (30 odd years ago) you can sell anything. That was on my first day being given a single front door lead that no one wanted to do . When I came back with the order even the sales manager was impressed. lol
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We have used wildfire for over 2 years now and have spent +£30K with them in total. We have always found him trustworthy and the work is well priced. We have just agreed another 2 years of Wildfire's services and are very pleased.
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Can I ask how many franchises do you have now James?
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Can I ask how many franchises do you have now James?
Not enough ;D
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I'm my forma life many years ago I was a dg salesman too.
That is probably why I don't find it that difficult to gain work unlike some as if you can sell a front door at £700 (30 odd years ago) you can sell anything. That was on my first day being given a single front door lead that no one wanted to do . When I came back with the order even the sales manager was impressed. lol
I think being thrown in the deep end in that world does something to a man it makes you realise anything is possible if you can find the confidence to just ask for the business in whatever your selling, I'm impressed Smurf i bet you were a bit shaky filling out the contract, my first contract needed totally re writing lol.
Is your surname Murphy or is Smurf just a nick name? as I'm a Murphy and was called Smurf whilst growing up and some of my older friends still call me it some times
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I'm my forma life many years ago I was a dg salesman too.
That is probably why I don't find it that difficult to gain work unlike some as if you can sell a front door at £700 (30 odd years ago) you can sell anything. That was on my first day being given a single front door lead that no one wanted to do . When I came back with the order even the sales manager was impressed. lol
I think being thrown in the deep end in that world does something to a man it makes you realise anything is possible if you can find the confidence to just ask for the business in whatever your selling, I'm impressed Smurf i bet you were a bit shaky filling out the contract, my first contract needed totally re writing lol.
Is your surname Murphy or is Smurf just a nick name? as I'm a Murphy and was called Smurf whilst growing up and some of my older friends still call me it some times
We might even be related. lol
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Be careful I know someone who handed over quiet a lot of money to one of these setups turned out the work was sold over and over.
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Quite. ::)roll
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Quite. ::)roll
Makes you wonder if NWH can actually read? ;D ;D
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Or Touareg Arabs.
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I haven't been on here since as I'm out trying to build my business, I was only letting other window cleaners know that I had found this company good to deal with, I have nothing to gain from promoting them and if they don't deliver I will let everyone know. It makes no sense to waste time door knocking if you got the money to get a company to get you a lot more work in a short space of time while I'm out cleaning
One year on; Are you still around?
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Or Touareg Arabs.
No such thing. They're Berbers. Call them Arabs and you'd have your dangly bits removed and sewn into your mouth.