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Title: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: Caleb Morley on February 09, 2017, 03:33:36 pm
Hi everyone,

I'm thinking of getting a company to fit my next van mounted WFP system.

I know Grippatank do it.

Who else does?

Also has anyone else financed a new van and system? If so how's it working out? Happy you did it?

Cheers,

Kay
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: p1w1 on February 09, 2017, 04:05:19 pm
I quite like the look of the waterworks window cleaning system but dont know if the tank is a proper baffled one and doubt its crash tested, but the design of it is a good use of space.
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: Michael Peterson on February 09, 2017, 05:32:10 pm
the tank is baffled it has plastic coming up to seperate the water in the tank, i dont think it would be crash tested, it comes with brakets to attach the tank to the subframe of your van ( a garage can do this) the tank comes full assembled and i got mine delivered on a pallet, all you have to do is add hose and go, the system is beautiful and it looks awesome and the elertic reels are really great to work with
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: Scrimble on February 10, 2017, 10:12:43 am
the tank is baffled it has plastic coming up to seperate the water in the tank, i dont think it would be crash tested, it comes with brakets to attach the tank to the subframe of your van ( a garage can do this) the tank comes full assembled and i got mine delivered on a pallet, all you have to do is add hose and go, the system is beautiful and it looks awesome and the elertic reels are really great to work with

that is a mould in the centre to strengthen the tank, without it the sides will bow outwards, it is not a baffle,  even if you were to class it as a baffle then it is inadequate ,

IMO go with pure20 (ionics budget brand) Grippa or EMPF but empf will just fabricate a tank and frame you will need to do the rest yourself (if you are capable)

any company which uses a wydale tank do not go  for
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: Smurf on February 10, 2017, 03:21:23 pm
If you have money to burn ionic do a transit custom van and zero ppb hot system package. http://www.ionicsystems.co.uk/en/offers.php
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: Caleb Morley on February 10, 2017, 05:35:20 pm
Thank s for the responses chaps.
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: cleaning4usussex on February 10, 2017, 10:23:11 pm
I'm going for grippatank as my first system,
Jamie
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: Jamie Thomas on February 11, 2017, 08:14:58 am
What's wrong with wydale tanks. They have been around for 25 year's what accidents or problems have they caused.
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: dazmond on February 11, 2017, 08:29:52 am
What's wrong with wydale tanks. They have been around for 25 year's what accidents or problems have they caused.

none.pure freedom use them in their set ups.ive always used wydale tanks.i started off with a 350L layflat and now i have a 500L upright bolted down in a pure freedom frame.

the frame was expensive but the fitting was only £80 at my local garage. ;)

ive never had problems with lids leaking either like some guys have.you do get a bit of "swaying" when you stop at traffic lights though with half a tank but its not excessive.i can live with it. ;D

Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: Tony dunmall on February 11, 2017, 08:36:31 am
I think that's a fair point really many still use them and many my friends still do without any problems, the obvious difficulty is locating them securely some choose the bulk  head some ratchet the secure holding points some buy a frame, I used them for over 20 years no issues could have in this van

I personally went with grippa as I didn't wish to install another system myself again and I just preferred the overall look of grippa and the customer service also I wanted there front cabinet where They've  installed a 12 volt heater to keep pumps protected
 also when I mentioned to my insurance company grippa is crash tested  it lowered my insurance costs without any issues at all I pay about £200 on brand new transit connect connect ltd 115bhp which I think is cheap

All my other vans had secured water tanks retro fitted ( various locations depeding on the van )it always was the same rubbish every year is it modified is it not always reflecting with a larger premium, i know wydale tanks are safe as I hit a stationary object about 7 years ago at 50mph with a 350ltre in back of my Citroen c crosser Strapped to rear seats

I'm Also  sure all the other companies offer good customer service, as  you would expect them to with the prices of a designed and installed system, grippa come to you To install which is why They also appeal to me As I could keep working in the spare van
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: Scrimble on February 11, 2017, 08:45:39 am
the problem with wydale tanks is they are unbaffled so you get water movement,  if all you want to do is hold water in a tank then they are fine for that,

but there are much better tanks on the market,

it depends on what you want really, if you are happy with feeling sea sick or have no interest in having something better then they will suit you, its not always down to cost either
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: dazmond on February 11, 2017, 09:35:23 am
the problem with wydale tanks is they are unbaffled so you get water movement,  if all you want to do is hold water in a tank then they are fine for that,

but there are much better tanks on the market,

it depends on what you want really, if you are happy with feeling sea sick or have no interest in having something better then they will suit you, its not always down to cost either

fair play.if i was paying for a professional install then id probably go with grippa too.with me already having a load of gear and a tank i just swapped mine over from my old van but bought a new frame/cage from pure freedom.(and bought a new reel)
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: Jamie Thomas on February 12, 2017, 11:09:07 am
I think you will find they are baffled. Iv always used them with no problems have a 500lt upright installed at the moment.
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: cgh window cleaning on February 12, 2017, 12:52:36 pm
They are not baffled as said above the holes running through the centre are for strength.To a slight degree it will brake the water up and reduce surge a little bit but not in the same way as a proper fully baffled tank does.
A propper baffled tank will have lots of dividers or chambers inside reducing surge massively  as well as wear on brakes and tyres.
Even when full of water you will struggle to notice a baffled tank in the back the same can"t be said about wydale tanks.
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 12, 2017, 05:49:53 pm
Never had a problem with swilling/seasickness with Wyedale tanks.

I have had a layflat 400 in my doblo - it had the "hole" in the middle which was fine for ratchet strapping.

Now I have a 650 with two "holes" which is ratchet strapped in my Hyundai iload.

Might get the tiniest of "back and forth" if I stop sharply at traffic lights but hardly perceptible.
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: Frankybadboy on February 12, 2017, 07:47:40 pm
the problem with wydale tanks is they are unbaffled so you get water movement,  if all you want to do is hold water in a tank then they are fine for that,

but there are much better tanks on the market,

it depends on what you want really, if you are happy with feeling sea sick or have no interest in having something better then they will suit you, its not always down to cost either
you will if you drive around like a idiot,
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: Spruce on February 13, 2017, 09:10:18 am
They are not baffled as said above the holes running through the centre are for strength.To a slight degree it will brake the water up and reduce surge a little bit but not in the same way as a proper fully baffled tank does.
A propper baffled tank will have lots of dividers or chambers inside reducing surge massively  as well as wear on brakes and tyres.
Even when full of water you will struggle to notice a baffled tank in the back the same can"t be said about wydale tanks.

How do you clean them?
Title: Re: Who are the main players when it comes to fitting a van mounted WFP system?
Post by: robert mitchell on February 13, 2017, 06:43:14 pm
Never needed to clean a van mount tank Spruce , what are you trying to clean out of it?