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Title: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: Ken on January 28, 2017, 12:15:07 pm
Currently looking for a new (second hand) van so that I can increase water carrying capacity. Current favourite that I've seen is a Transit T300. I will be able to stick a 650 litre tank in comfortably. I am looking for recommendations for tank fitting companies. I've looked at GrippaTank but I don't need a whole system, and also can't stretch to their rarified prices! I see Pure Freedom do cages but not sure how they attach to the van?
Any suggestions, recommendations or pics of your own installs appreciated.
Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on January 28, 2017, 12:22:21 pm
some good t300 going at bca next week as I am there buying two of them , we strap our tanks  to three bars that these vans come fitted with that go across the van just infront of the arches , because there ex aa vans these bars are degined to have 1 tonne tool boxes strap to them right up the the roof
Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: Ken on January 28, 2017, 12:35:12 pm
Hi Susie, whereabouts is the auction you're going to?
Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: Tosh on January 28, 2017, 12:39:36 pm
Susie? Wahey!!
Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on January 28, 2017, 12:47:50 pm
Auction Centre, Blackbushe Airport, Blackwater, Camberley, Surrey, GU17 9LG theres loads of t300 going next week all ages and all miles I tend to go for the ex aa ones with the lower miles 60-70k keep them for 2/3 years then bin them off after this , we replaceing two 59 plates that have come to the end of there live with us
Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: dazmond on January 28, 2017, 01:00:06 pm
Currently looking for a new (second hand) van so that I can increase water carrying capacity. Current favourite that I've seen is a Transit T300. I will be able to stick a 650 litre tank in comfortably. I am looking for recommendations for tank fitting companies. I've looked at GrippaTank but I don't need a whole system, and also can't stretch to their rarified prices! I see Pure Freedom do cages but not sure how they attach to the van?
Any suggestions, recommendations or pics of your own installs appreciated.

get your local garage to fit your tank.ive just bought a crash tested cage from pure freedom.its getting fitted a week on monday.they charged me £100 last time.might be £200 this time but still cheaper than going to grimsby to get it fitted. :)
Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: Ken on January 28, 2017, 01:17:05 pm
Daz, do Pure Freedom supply fitting instructions with their cages? Or does the guy in the garage have to wing it?
Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: dazmond on January 28, 2017, 04:16:12 pm
Daz, do Pure Freedom supply fitting instructions with their cages? Or does the guy in the garage have to wing it?

the cage comes with no fittings but i managed to get them to send me some with my order.basically you drill holes through the van floor and fix using bolts and spreader plates.its pretty simple really esp for a garage to do as they have the hydraulic vehicle lifts and tools etc.

mind you they had to remove  my fuel tank and exhaust system to fit mine last time.im glad i didnt attempt to bolt it down  myself! ;D
Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: Lee GLS on January 28, 2017, 04:27:59 pm
Auction Centre, Blackbushe Airport, Blackwater, Camberley, Surrey, GU17 9LG theres loads of t300 going next week all ages and all miles I tend to go for the ex aa ones with the lower miles 60-70k keep them for 2/3 years then bin them off after this , we replaceing two 59 plates that have come to the end of there live with us

How much do those ex AA transits got for Susan?
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Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on January 28, 2017, 05:04:25 pm
from 2900-5000 depending on the miles  and whos there ,
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Post by: G Griffin on January 28, 2017, 07:38:40 pm
Susie? Wahey!!
Hahahahaha.
Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: Smurf on January 29, 2017, 12:02:52 am
I use to spend  quite a bit of time at auctions back in my trade days.
Closed auctions are for trade only which are the best auctions to attend to buy stock.

All fleet/lease vehicles end up being off loaded through auctions. Open auctions (open to the public) is also where the trade tend to dump the dogs they don't want.

Glass's guide is the bible of the motor trade http://www.glassbusiness.co.uk/ but still don't stop you from buying a dog in an auction  ;D
Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on January 29, 2017, 12:19:03 pm
I use to spend  quite a bit of time at auctions back in my trade days.
Closed auctions are for trade only which are the best auctions to attend to buy stock.

All fleet/lease vehicles end up being off loaded through auctions. Open auctions (open to the public) is also where the trade tend to dump the dogs they don't want.

Glass's guide is the bible of the motor trade http://www.glassbusiness.co.uk/ but still don't stop you from buying a dog in an auction  ;D

this is why I tend to buy from the aa , as the vans  have only ever had one driver , been limited all there lives , and are trackered to death which includes the drivers driving , also because they carry passengers  so there maintained 100% as its the aas duty of care to keep there custmers safe while in there vans
Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: duncan h on January 29, 2017, 12:32:37 pm
I use to spend  quite a bit of time at auctions back in my trade days.
Closed auctions are for trade only which are the best auctions to attend to buy stock.

All fleet/lease vehicles end up being off loaded through auctions. Open auctions (open to the public) is also where the trade tend to dump the dogs they don't want.

Glass's guide is the bible of the motor trade http://www.glassbusiness.co.uk/ but still don't stop you from buying a dog in an auction  ;D

this is why I tend to buy from the aa , as the vans  have only ever had one driver , been limited all there lives , and are trackered to death which includes the drivers driving , also because they carry passengers  so there maintained 100% as its the aas duty of care to keep there custmers safe while in there vans



I agree but they also spent most of the time ticking over. That equals a lot of miles
Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: Smurf on January 29, 2017, 12:44:13 pm
Ticking over don't put much wear on a motor.   It's generally caused by drivers with a lead foot that rant the guts out of them.
Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: Spruce on January 29, 2017, 12:56:25 pm
I use to spend  quite a bit of time at auctions back in my trade days.
Closed auctions are for trade only which are the best auctions to attend to buy stock.

All fleet/lease vehicles end up being off loaded through auctions. Open auctions (open to the public) is also where the trade tend to dump the dogs they don't want.

Glass's guide is the bible of the motor trade http://www.glassbusiness.co.uk/ but still don't stop you from buying a dog in an auction  ;D

this is why I tend to buy from the aa , as the vans  have only ever had one driver , been limited all there lives , and are trackered to death which includes the drivers driving , also because they carry passengers  so there maintained 100% as its the aas duty of care to keep there custmers safe while in there vans



I agree but they also spent most of the time ticking over. That equals a lot of miles

I agree. We tend to forget that.  But they are well maintained.

Its the same as those Rapid response team cars we see in strategic parking places. They have to leave their engine running all the time, winter of summer.
My customer is one and he popped in at home for some coffee one lunch time in summer. He left the engine running with the aircon on.
I asked why. His reply was that they have lots of power hungry stuff on board and that is procedure to ensure they are fully charged and ready for the next emergency.

I had an appointment at the hospital and when I bypassed A&E there was a motorway police BMW Estate parked outside with the engine running, no one to be seen. " hours later it was still parked in the same spot with the engine running.


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Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: Spruce on January 29, 2017, 01:03:29 pm
Ticking over don't put much wear on a motor.   It's generally caused by drivers with a lead foot that rant the guts out of them.

That's true.

We grew up on the copperbelt in Zambia (Northern Rhodesia then).
The mine ran a fleet of Thames Trader tippers that carried ore from the Mufulira mine to the smelter a Kitwe some 16 miles away. Those tippers ran 24 hours a day.

I was in the mine workshop with my Dad once and there was a tipper having a replacement rear diff/axle fitted. The engine was still running as were a couple of others in the yard waiting attention. I was told that the only time the engines were switched off was when they were serviced and had their oil changed.
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Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: Smurf on January 29, 2017, 01:18:00 pm
Both my sons are paramedics.  Eldest works from a rapid response ambulance car the other an ambulance. Both turn the engine off when not required as that is how they have been taught.  All rapid response cars and ambulances are now leased and maintained to a very high standard. 

Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: capn sparkle on January 31, 2017, 11:58:29 pm
I use to spend  quite a bit of time at auctions back in my trade days.
Closed auctions are for trade only which are the best auctions to attend to buy stock.

All fleet/lease vehicles end up being off loaded through auctions. Open auctions (open to the public) is also where the trade tend to dump the dogs they don't want.

Glass's guide is the bible of the motor trade http://www.glassbusiness.co.uk/ but still don't stop you from buying a dog in an auction  ;D

this is why I tend to buy from the aa , as the vans  have only ever had one driver , been limited all there lives , and are trackered to death which includes the drivers driving , also because they carry passengers  so there maintained 100% as its the aas duty of care to keep there custmers safe while in there vans

I used the same logic when buying mine! 2008 Ex AA Vivaro - 3 months on timing chain snapped and lunched the engine, hope the transits are better
Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: Spruce on February 01, 2017, 10:14:38 am
I use to spend  quite a bit of time at auctions back in my trade days.
Closed auctions are for trade only which are the best auctions to attend to buy stock.

All fleet/lease vehicles end up being off loaded through auctions. Open auctions (open to the public) is also where the trade tend to dump the dogs they don't want.

Glass's guide is the bible of the motor trade http://www.glassbusiness.co.uk/ but still don't stop you from buying a dog in an auction  ;D

this is why I tend to buy from the aa , as the vans  have only ever had one driver , been limited all there lives , and are trackered to death which includes the drivers driving , also because they carry passengers  so there maintained 100% as its the aas duty of care to keep there custmers safe while in there vans

I used the same logic when buying mine! 2008 Ex AA Vivaro - 3 months on timing chain snapped and lunched the engine, hope the transits are better

I don't understand some manufacturers (BMW, VW, Vauxhall, Ford) going back to timing chains. Timing chains rattled when they stretched and they wore the sprockets out. Owners believe they don't need to worry about timing chain maintenance like they did a cambelt, but yes they do.

If the timing chain stretches, the sensors pick up and engine issue and the ECU shuts the engine off.  Vehicles are towed back to the agents for a computer upgrade that will give an additional tolerance factor. to get the vehicle going again.

This whole issue with cambelts is all about the waterpump. If a water pump bearing seizes up which they sometimes do, then a £15 part can destroy a whole motor,

What was wrong with the design of the 2.0 Pinto engine in my Ford Sierra 30 years ago?  Cambelt in the inside, and external fanbelt that drove the water pump, alternator and airconditioner.

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Title: Re: Opening a can of worms..?
Post by: 8weekly on February 01, 2017, 01:16:02 pm
Auction Centre, Blackbushe Airport, Blackwater, Camberley, Surrey, GU17 9LG theres loads of t300 going next week all ages and all miles I tend to go for the ex aa ones with the lower miles 60-70k keep them for 2/3 years then bin them off after this , we replaceing two 59 plates that have come to the end of there live with us
Thanks for the tip. I'll be along bidding just on the AA vans,