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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: NWH on January 14, 2017, 09:14:34 pm
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Thinking of changing my hot system as iv had my diesel heater a while,might go for a pro installed gas one if they are any good.
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I have 2 of their systems they are very economical {about 2pounds a day for 600 litres}. Julie and Carl have always been very helpful over the 8 years that I have had them. Any questions will try to answer .
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I have been told the heater concept20 use is a cointra cob-5,
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Thanks this is what I'm interested to know what heater they use and a rough price on a 600ltr,where are they based do they come to you and fit etc.
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I have had one of their hot water systems for 6 years. Costs £7 every 2 weeks to refill with LPG.
Fantastic system. They are based near Cardiff.
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What's the reliability been like with the gas unit.
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Why the change NWH
Your always so positive about the deisel heater
What's got you thinking about gas instead ?
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Never had a problem with boiler in either van, plus properly vented with fan through roof, The lpg tank is fitted underneath with filler at back of van. Sorry don't know cost now was about 7000 with liner and 4040 membrane 600 litre tank pump hosereel and controller already to go . Richard
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Do they have a gauge for the gas so you know when your running low
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I like my PF 9kw system. Once a small teething problem was sorted early on its been a very reliable way to work with hot water
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There is a gauge on the tank but as it is under the van it is not visible so I fill up every 2 weeks as I know that will keep me going.
I've had to have a new computer board fitted in 6 years error messages were being displayed and the heater stopped turning on.
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The thing is I won't be getting one if everytime it goes wrong I've got to drive to wales.
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I live in Jersey so that's also not an option fo me. It's only gone wrong once in 6 years and a local auto electrics company fitted the new computer board to the heater no problem at all.
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I considered a Concept 20 heater but went with Pure Freedom in the end as the Concept 20 didn't have any built in frost protection. With the PF you haven't got to worry about any frost damage to the unit if it gets cold over night. With the Concept 20 I was told by Julie you'd have to put a heater in your van if there was a chance of freezing weather when the van/heater isn't in use.
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You don't need it you can use the probe and controller from a diesel heater,put the probe inline it'll click on when it drops below 2 degrees.
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I've had my Concept HW system about 6 months now. No problems at all and cost is around £2-3 per 500/600L. No gas level indicator visible other than one on lpg tank , i just assume that after roughly 3 or 4 days i'll need a fill otherwise no HW and controller will read the respective code for gas empty. I know 4 other owners in my home town and everyone says they are rock solid.
Frost protection didn't bother me too much as was used to chucking in the oil rad when on the cold system.
Ps. No need to drive to Wales, just get a local engineer to sort it.
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Rough price on a 600ltr +
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NWH, if I remember correctly you used to slate the Concept system because of the cheap looking tanks that seem similar to Wydale and the very expensive price tag. I would agree on that.
To me the only good thing about the system is they seem to have installed a decent, reliable gas heater, but you pay a big premium for it.
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Yes I did say it seemed a lot of money for a wyvale tanked system then again any system that uses those tanks seems a lot,I like the thought of trying a gas system you can have the water at the temp you require,I'm looking for a ball park figure not an exact price.
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Rough price on a 600ltr +
Does it matter? You have the best/highest paid round on CIU and you're swithering over a few measly grand! Oh, and just think of the tax you'll save!!
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Hello Belled end,yeah it's a tough decision between a concept hot machine or a Zero PPB hot machine,I can't make my mind up and yeah I would earn enough in a short time to pay for it.
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How's the gas system work in concept systems
Is it hot water in demand similar to the webasto
Looked on there web site but not much information
Any pics anywhere
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its basically a tankless on demand gas water heater that you can buy for under £200 attached to a metal frame with a couple of unbaffled plastic wydale type tanks, with a lpg tank under the van,
all yours for what 6?7?8 grand? bargain if you ask me
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Thanks Scrimble it seems to be a massive secret on how much they charge for one,what heater is it they use does it work similar to the L5 heater on principle,I might buy 1 and give it a go.
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Haven't you got a telephone ???
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This is the heater they use. Works just like the ones on eBay for £90. If I were you I would buy a heater off eBay, get a 25kg propane bottle and plumb it in yourself, would easily come to under £200 and if you don't like it you have lost much
https://www.thecaravanwarehouse.co.uk/Products/boilers--water-heaters/BOI011?gclid=CIXU6Zq07NECFc2c7QodxAUEsA
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Is that the one they use what have they done incorporated a digital flow controller to make it look like there own then,also does there's shut off after so long when being used.
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I have two concept 2 o systems and they do not use cheap Chinese heaters, their heaters are 240 volts and run off an inverter. They incorporate a fan with flue through the roof.
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think the heaters listed are made in Spain
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They are actually Italian heaters. How is it that some people say things without any knowledge whatsoever??
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They are actually Italian heaters. How is it that some people say things without any knowledge whatsoever??
the website with the link Lee posted quotes there made in Spain hence why i said I THINK there made in Spain
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???240 volts why?
Gas heater I had ran off gas and was ignited by a couple of DD batteries.
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They are actually Italian heaters. How is it that some people say things without any knowledge whatsoever??
EXACTLY. What's the point of explaining when someone is so adamant that they know it all. POINTLESS.
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Rough price on a 600ltr +
Does it matter? You have the best/highest paid round on CIU and you're swithering over a few measly grand! Oh, and just think of the tax you'll save!!
As been said many many times before if you really considering a concept system surely you would of contacted Julie by now to ask for a costing?
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I want to know what heater they use I don't need to call them for that,there's such a cloke and dagger image I'm getting about there systems on price I would imagine everyone that's purchased one has paid a different amount tbh.
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But it's more fun seeing people actually think they know it all but actually know jack s***. Good to see normal service resumes here ;D
This is the heater they use..Wait for it..it could be Chinese, or is it Italian or even Spanish ;D ;D ;D
Damn I've forgot.
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Do they have a gauge for the gas so you know when your running low
I have tried to find a guage like you describe. not available I found
#What you can get is a long sticker that stickes vertically on the gas bottle and will depict the gas level in the gas bottle.The gas in the gas bottle is colder and this is what it measures on.
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Yeah you mean like the green see through bottles or the strip the full length of yr bottle