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Title: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Scrimble on January 14, 2017, 10:03:17 am
Has anyone had success with large royal mail leaflet drops?  100k leaflets+ not just the odd couple of thousand
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Og on January 14, 2017, 03:48:19 pm
You'd be very busy with lots of one offs.
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: nathankaye on January 14, 2017, 04:45:14 pm
You wanna speak to lee pryor
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: 8weekly on January 14, 2017, 05:29:10 pm
You'd be very busy with lots of one offs.
Was that your experience Og? I recall you were doing one a few months ago.
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Lee Pryor on January 14, 2017, 06:01:32 pm
You should talk to Lee Pryor. He delivered just over 1 million leaflets in 2016, 250k the year before that and so on. 😀
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: 8weekly on January 14, 2017, 06:21:13 pm
You should talk to Lee Pryor. He delivered just over 1 million leaflets in 2016, 250k the year before that and so on. 😀
With Royal Mail?
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Lee Pryor on January 14, 2017, 06:30:34 pm
You should talk to Lee Pryor. He delivered just over 1 million leaflets in 2016, 250k the year before that and so on. 😀
With Royal Mail?

No, but I did use them to deliver 80k in 2008
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: 8weekly on January 14, 2017, 06:46:29 pm
You should talk to Lee Pryor. He delivered just over 1 million leaflets in 2016, 250k the year before that and so on. 😀
With Royal Mail?

No, but I did use them to deliver 80k in 2008
Any good? When they deliver here we get 5/6 at a time.
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Og on January 14, 2017, 09:32:21 pm
You'd be very busy with lots of one offs.
Was that your experience Og? I recall you were doing one a few months ago.

Aye. Did 30 odd thousand end of October. Paid for itself pretty quick and got some super cool jobs. And still coming in.
But...........
I can only conclude that I am to deliver our flyers as I seem to get a far better return. God knows why.
So I'll pay someone else to clean  windows while I buzz about making chit chat to potential customers.

I would use Royal Mail again though.
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: 8weekly on January 14, 2017, 09:38:06 pm
You'd be very busy with lots of one offs.
Was that your experience Og? I recall you were doing one a few months ago.

Aye. Did 30 odd thousand end of October. Paid for itself pretty quick and got some super cool jobs. And still coming in.
But...........
I can only conclude that I am to deliver our flyers as I seem to get a far better return. God knows why.
So I'll pay someone else to clean  windows while I buzz about making chit chat to potential customers.

I would use Royal Mail again though.
Probably not the best time of year, so interesting results. Did you get much regular custom out of it? My leaflets bring in almost only regular work, but often with a one off fascia clean on the first job, or conny roof or gutters. I think I'd be disappointed if I got primarily one offs.
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Og on January 15, 2017, 09:19:35 am
You'd be very busy with lots of one offs.
Was that your experience Og? I recall you were doing one a few months ago.

Aye. Did 30 odd thousand end of October. Paid for itself pretty quick and got some super cool jobs. And still coming in.
But...........
I can only conclude that I am to deliver our flyers as I seem to get a far better return. God knows why.
So I'll pay someone else to clean  windows while I buzz about making chit chat to potential customers.

I would use Royal Mail again though.
Probably not the best time of year, so interesting results. Did you get much regular custom out of it? My leaflets bring in almost only regular work, but often with a one off fascia clean on the first job, or conny roof or gutters. I think I'd be disappointed if I got primarily one offs.

Fair to say I've more regular work than one offs. And lots of the the one offs I've pushed to annual, solar panels gutters etc.
Got lucky with a couple of big jobs which pays for half the cost of the campaign.
Probably was the worst time of year, although in my experience, people will put a flyer in a draw for a few months.
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: ObiwanK on January 15, 2017, 09:47:03 am
You'd be very busy with lots of one offs.

Why?
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Spruce on January 15, 2017, 10:47:06 am
At one time the post office paid their postmen and women to deliver flyers separately in their own time.

One of the local posties got fired because he took the flyers but didn't post them. They found piles of them in his garage.

I'm not sure how their system works now as our relative no longer works for the Royal Mail.

It does seem that the posties get to put the flyers in with their regular mail, but how they get paid is another question. We also don't know how that mail is tracked, if at all.

The Royal Mail never suspected that postie. It was the customer who was monitoring receipts of his flyer into homes in that area. Apparently he had a few contacts and he asked them to save all flyers so he could see  what was delivered and when. He noted that in a particular area no fliers were delivered by Royal Mail where there were lots delivered on the other side of town. It was only then that the Royal Mail reluctantly launched their own investigation

This is probably the reason why windies and others employ a dedicated person to deliver their mailer with a tracking device so they are more assured that their leaflet has been delivered.

I would be pretty sure that Lee Pryor hasn't used the Royal Mail since 2008 for a good reason.

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Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Spruce on January 15, 2017, 10:51:44 am
You'd be very busy with lots of one offs.

Why?

Probably because the majority of people enquiring from your flyer don't have a regular window cleaner. Those that do have a cleaner they are happy with will just bin your flyer.

Window cleaners don't like doing 1 off jobs, but there are a lot of customers who just want their windows cleaned occasionally.  They will have learnt that windies want regular work so will agree to a regular clean.  They will then change or try to change the terms of the agreement after the job has been completed.

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Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Scrimble on January 15, 2017, 11:24:23 am
You'd be very busy with lots of one offs.

you couldnt be more wrong, so far in the last few months I have had 45k leaflets delivered with zero one offs
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: ObiwanK on January 15, 2017, 11:40:22 am
You'd be very busy with lots of one offs.

Why?

Probably because the majority of people enquiring from your flyer don't have a regular window cleaner. Those that do have a cleaner they are happy with will just bin your flyer.

Window cleaners don't like doing 1 off jobs, but there are a lot of customers who just want their windows cleaned occasionally.  They will have learnt that windies want regular work so will agree to a regular clean.  They will then change or try to change the terms of the agreement after the job has been completed.

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Lee Proyr must be throwing his money away then
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Og on January 15, 2017, 02:23:28 pm
You'd be very busy with lots of one offs.

you couldnt be more wrong, so far in the last few months I have had 45k leaflets delivered with zero one offs

Good for you amigo. My experience is different. We do gutter cleaning and panel cleaning too. Perhaps this is why.
I've about 30,000 in the garage, gonna try deliver them myself!
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Lee Pryor on January 15, 2017, 02:51:02 pm
You'd be very busy with lots of one offs.

Why?

Probably because the majority of people enquiring from your flyer don't have a regular window cleaner. Those that do have a cleaner they are happy with will just bin your flyer.

Window cleaners don't like doing 1 off jobs, but there are a lot of customers who just want their windows cleaned occasionally.  They will have learnt that windies want regular work so will agree to a regular clean.  They will then change or try to change the terms of the agreement after the job has been completed.

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Lee Proyr must be throwing his money away then

That's not how you spell my name.

No I'm not throwing my money away.
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: ObiwanK on January 15, 2017, 03:40:39 pm
I know that. You know that. But Spruce and Og knows you get lots of one-offs.
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: robbo333 on January 15, 2017, 03:44:22 pm
I did 3 lots of 10,000 a time but not with Royal Mail. Always got good, consistent results. Always got an excellent return on my investment.
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Dry Clean on January 15, 2017, 04:02:39 pm
Nothing wrong with Royal Mail other than you will get your leaflet delivered along with others which can be up to a maximum of
7 or 8, that said most leaflet deliverers do the same to make it affordable.
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Dry Clean on January 15, 2017, 04:09:45 pm
You should talk to Lee Pryor. He delivered just over 1 million leaflets in 2016, 250k the year before that and so on. 😀

I bet your feed where sore by the end of that lot.
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Og on January 15, 2017, 04:50:40 pm
I know that. You know that. But Spruce and Og knows you get lots of one-offs.

Parp. Nothing wrong with one offs if priced correctly.
Title: Re: Large leaflet drops with Royal Mail
Post by: Spruce on January 16, 2017, 04:34:08 pm
I know that. You know that. But Spruce and Og knows you get lots of one-offs.

Parp. Nothing wrong with one offs if priced correctly.

Agree, but only if you have gaps in your work schedule. Once you have a full round then they become a 'drain'.