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Title: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: mikey on January 08, 2017, 08:21:12 pm
how many fills  will it take cleaning  a 40ft long by  20ft drive block paving   using a 21ltre honda gx  using this tank http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Rainsaver-100-litre-water-butt-kit-/142232943777?hash=item211dbe7ca1:g:G~0AAOSw8oFXz-8l  as i dont have much space in my van 
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Matt. on January 08, 2017, 08:53:48 pm
Forever mate, u need to fill a few wheelie bins up before u start.

100L @ 21 lpm gives u about 5 mins if u not filling as u empty, if u filling up at same time should last about 10-15 mins.
U need the buffer zone in a bigger tank so u start at full and be filling up at same time
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: mikey on January 08, 2017, 08:56:59 pm
ok  so fill the  tank but keep the water flowing from the tap  to tank didnt think of that   i think that would sort of work for me

thanks matt
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: BDCS on January 08, 2017, 09:20:58 pm
What don't you just use a wheely bin - 240 ltrs is much the same footprint as that water butt. Bulkhead fittings at bottom for positive feed and a 3/4" ball cock on the feed with a hose lock
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: mikey on January 08, 2017, 09:38:55 pm
sometimes the bins are locked away or full 
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: BDCS on January 09, 2017, 12:15:00 am
Ok - ever thought about purchase of your own ?
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Kev Martin on January 09, 2017, 07:18:01 am
Ok - ever thought about the purchase of your own ?

 ;D :D :D
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: mikey on January 09, 2017, 08:27:53 am
i have the info i need thanks  i dont have room in my van  for a weelie bin  just a 100ltre thin garden but 
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Smurf on January 09, 2017, 11:58:42 am
i have the info i need thanks  i dont have room in my van  for a weelie bin  just a 100ltre thin garden but

Sounds like you need to get a bigger van.
What van are you using?


Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: mikey on January 09, 2017, 12:33:26 pm
its a peugot  expert only 2years old  not getting another    250 tank inside   50lt  pure freedom  trolley reell trads gear   gutter vac   poles   pressure washer iam maxed out   i think i may just be able to fit a 210ltre garden tub inside   with a bit of rearanging  i have seen this  will make a lot of difference  for space http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pure-water-systems/water-storage/standard-size-vehicle-tanks/210-litre-water-tank-tower.html

Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Smurf on January 09, 2017, 01:50:54 pm
A 210 ltr water butt is very light in weight and can also be stowed (or thrown in my case) on top of other gear if need be.  ;D

Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: mikey on January 09, 2017, 04:55:40 pm
thanks for all your advice
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Smurf on January 09, 2017, 05:12:32 pm
They are cheap as chips too.  ;) http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/traditional-water-butt---210l-013274

Mind they are a bugger to move about with water in them but very easy to empty if need be. If I should  ever want to move the washer location I just keep an eye out on the water level in the butt and turn the inlet off with the built in xhose tap. That way I don't have to mess about turning the water on/ off at the tap.   Also comes in very handy using the xhose for washing stuff down as I go or on final cleanup when I don't need or want to use the  washer for rinsing down.

On some jobs I just set the butt up on the ground by the van back doors and run the washer from the van with enough high pressure hose to get to all the surfaces that need cleaning. That way I have the best of both as by the time I've started filling the butt, I get on preparing the area to be cleaned then normally the butt is full.

I also have a separate 250 van tank for the washer but prefer to use it for storing extra pure in it now as the butt works just as well.



Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: mikey on January 09, 2017, 06:21:03 pm
great thanks   iam also looking at a washer with a reel  so i can work more from the van    might just buy a 15ltr   2200psi  with a reel  and sit the butt outside van like you say  then just reel out  iam also looking at this one  http://jetmac.co.uk/products/loncin-7-hp-rr-industrial-business-start-up-package        looks just right  for me   
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Iain macdonald on January 09, 2017, 09:56:41 pm
Smurf what's an xhose
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Smurf on January 10, 2017, 10:41:25 am
Smurf what's an xhose

Like  this bud http://www.argos.co.uk/product/1065714
I only buy 100 ft ones. Also if you shop around you may get the original xhose cheaper but there are a lot of fakes about that may not be the same quality.

Like I said before xhose's come in very handy and take up very little storage unlike conventional large garden hose reels.

This also comes in handy too for rinsing down stuff but I would not run chems through it as would last 5 mins
http://www.argos.co.uk/product/1064313
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Smurf on January 10, 2017, 11:01:47 am
great thanks   iam also looking at a washer with a reel  so i can work more from the van    might just buy a 15ltr   2200psi  with a reel  and sit the butt outside van like you say  then just reel out  iam also looking at this one  http://jetmac.co.uk/products/loncin-7-hp-rr-industrial-business-start-up-package        looks just right  for me

Looks ok but would be painfully slow trying to clean filthy block paving drives etc compared to a better say 13hp gx390 21 lpm spec washer. Also what I find very odd being there is no spec (psi/bar & lpm) listed for that pump  I can see on that site and don't mention in that vid either people have no ideal what they are getting surely?
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: mikey on January 10, 2017, 02:33:38 pm
this is what is anoying i think its a copy        iam not going down that route again  when i need one in march   i will go to rutland pumps and measure the right washer to fit in my van  and buy from them  because iam going round in circles 
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Smurf on January 10, 2017, 04:56:33 pm
Loncin engines can't be all that bad as even Ben sells them  ;D

Mind the pull cords tend to snap and the 14hp loncin motor washer  I have as a backup tends to drink fuel   ::)roll

Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Smudger on January 10, 2017, 05:58:53 pm
wheelie bin is the best all round ten to have if you don't have a dedicated tank in van

how a bout removing the gutter vac etc.. as your unlikely to do/want to do other cleaning after a pressure washing job

Darran
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: mikey on January 10, 2017, 06:37:39 pm
iam getting a  thinner tank  for van then i will just  have enough room foe everthing and still have a bit of room left  its this tank what iam going to get   http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pure-water-systems/water-storage/standard-size-vehicle-tanks/210-litre-water-tank-tower.html   its ample for a days work on the windows  and then   i will just  have enough room in the van for this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/210Litre-Strata-Slim-Line-Water-Butt-Set-Childproof-Lid-Tap-Green-Quality-GN325-/262258629019?hash=item3d0fd5199b:g:PHAAAOSwGotWpg~C  i have always fed from a tap   but now iam going   butt feed it            i need all the kit inside  because i got sick of turning gutters down   then when i buy the kit  no one asks   weird
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Aqua Power Solutions on January 10, 2017, 08:00:41 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1484078299_Funny.jpg)

Did i load on  my nozzle ? 
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Smurf on January 10, 2017, 08:28:11 pm
I take it that's what your van looked like before you got a trailer ;D

What goodies have you got inside it Aqua...anything worth pinching? ;)
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Smurf on January 10, 2017, 08:45:21 pm
iam getting a  thinner tank  for van then i will just  have enough room foe everthing and still have a bit of room left  its this tank what iam going to get   http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pure-water-systems/water-storage/standard-size-vehicle-tanks/210-litre-water-tank-tower.html   its ample for a days work on the windows  and then   i will just  have enough room in the van for this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/210Litre-Strata-Slim-Line-Water-Butt-Set-Childproof-Lid-Tap-Green-Quality-GN325-/262258629019?hash=item3d0fd5199b:g:PHAAAOSwGotWpg~C  i have always fed from a tap   but now iam going   butt feed it            i need all the kit inside  because i got sick of turning gutters down   then when i buy the kit  no one asks   weird

If you don't want to change your van then your best bet is to get a decent trailer like aqua or maybe a decent box trailer.
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Aqua Power Solutions on January 10, 2017, 09:25:05 pm
sometimes the bins are locked away or full
That did make me laugh !
Smurf , I have all the gear but no idea !

Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: mikey on January 10, 2017, 09:30:55 pm
i have a licence for a trailer  and iam going to see how it goes    i have thought about it  and it would be easy  tank in pressure washer in  etc  done  if this all works out  i will buy a trailer   i can pick a cheap trailer up    second hand    or even from halfords 
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Smurf on January 10, 2017, 09:52:32 pm
Halfords? they are way too small for what you need surely?



Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: mikey on January 10, 2017, 10:10:53 pm
yes thinking now   1000ltre ibc  would have to be put in   payload would have to be around  1300kg min   however   if i  do ok  it would pay for itself  very quickly  good thinking smurf
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: mikey on January 10, 2017, 10:13:01 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ifor-Williams-GD85SA-Braked-General-Duty-Trailer-G-V-W-1400kg-/232176202781?hash=item360ec7b41d:g:kv8AAOSw8vZXMQpU

something like this
Title: Re: emptying a 100ltre tank
Post by: Smurf on January 10, 2017, 11:37:12 pm
Ifor williams twin wheel braked trailer would be better like in the pic I posted. Or maybe a decent twin wheel box trailer instead to keep your gear out of site and not open to the elements.