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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Jamie McNamee on January 07, 2017, 08:05:49 pm
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Hi,
Whats the best van mounted system do you think?
Has anyone got a water genie system that can review?
Cheers
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a water genie from the cleaning warehouse is the basic un-baffled wydale tank with a metal frame, this is the basic and low end system, the tanks are not really meant for transport as they have no baffles, you will get sea sick driving around with one
I would recommend you go for a pure20 from ionics set up IMO they are the best value for money out there from the manufacturers
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Pure freedom is good for me. No issues after 5 years, it just lets me work! That's the aim, so thumbs up from me
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I opted for the diy van system from purefreedom with the 450gpd RO, which i fill into an ibc tank in yard and then via a 150 lpm transfer pump, send it into the van before start of work (5mins).
Its a 500ltr upright wydale tank which purefreedom sell as a baffled tank, but it isnt. However it is a steardy tank, i use plastic play balls and punctured holes into them. I currently have 200balls in and it gives no wave effect.
To heat, there are a couple of options rather than spending a fortune on heating units from ionics or the like, either an emersion heater // some use tropical tank heaters and others portable hot water on demand type gas units.
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Wouldn't want to be riding around in a van with that weight of water in an unbaffled tank.
Don't think your insurance would like it either.
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With the split in middle, its 250ltr virtually in each half of tank. With the balls in acting as baffles i dont get any rocking motion. Combined with bulkhead and securedly fitted its not a problem for me or insurance company.
Its just a good job im not a humper lumper or i'ld be pushing max payload on van ;D ;D
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GrippaTank
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As above Grippatank for me Great system and company to deal with.
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I opted for the diy van system from purefreedom with the 450gpd RO, which i fill into an ibc tank in yard and then via a 150 lpm transfer pump, send it into the van before start of work (5mins).
Its a 500ltr upright wydale tank which purefreedom sell as a baffled tank, but it isnt. However it is a steardy tank, i use plastic play balls and punctured holes into them. I currently have 200balls in and it gives no wave effect.
To heat, there are a couple of options rather than spending a fortune on heating units from ionics or the like, either an emersion heater // some use tropical tank heaters and others portable hot water on demand type gas units.
Surely having 200 balls in the tank would reduce the capacity of water it can hold.
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The balls have got holes in
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Eureka!
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i use plastic play balls and punctured holes into them.
Wonder where you got that idea from ;)
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Bloody hell, I didnt realise the water genie tank wasn't baffled! sod that.
Dont think I can quite afford the Ionics somehow...
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Ionics have a budget range pure20 I think it's called.
They are baffled and crash tested may be worth a look.
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The balls have got holes in
Yes but I am guessing they still hold a lot of water that does not end up being pumped out of them, especially when they sit on the bottom as the tank empties.
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/Aquaeous-Plastic-Fabrications/750009628351997?ref=br_rs
this guy does custom tanks very good so i here stephen scargill
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stop away from stephen scargill hes a rip off plus his lay flat tanks are utter poope
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It would help if you could expand on that rather than just saying what you’ve said. It doesn’t help anyone who’s in the market for new kit.
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It would help if you could expand on that rather than just saying what you’ve said. It doesn’t help anyone who’s in the market for new kit.
we had a lay flat tank built to fit a new connect we desgined it the he wanted to have it payed the deposit ect ect ect , after 3 months of couldn't get hold of him along with non stop bull and lies on the phone the day came too pick the new tank up , so off he went only to find sarcgill had given up his unit and not told anybody ,
picked it from his house only to find it was a right dump hole , the new tank was stored outside , the reels had been put in the wrong place , along with the battery holder , any way he picked it up as it was fully payed for by this time and we sorted the reels out ourselfs
the lid as never been water tight , it air locks stood still on flat road , and after a year use it looks like it ten years old !!
need I go on about the rest of the stuff we bought off him that I send back to been redone because it wasn't the right size never to see them again let alone a refund
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Pure freedom is good for me. No issues after 5 years, it just lets me work! That's the aim, so thumbs up from me
Same for me I've had three purefreedom van mounted systems,when I sold the vans I sold the systems fitted in vans for almost the price I paid for them.
In my opinion Good systems and value for money
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The balls have got holes in
Yes but I am guessing they still hold a lot of water that does not end up being pumped out of them, especially when they sit on the bottom as the tank empties.
They are the play pit type balls, with plenty of holes in them, good size holes as well. So as the balls roll around it would be very unlikely that they would hold much water in to warrant being concerned.
Besides, ive never fully drained my tank in a day yet, not even close. I opted for the 500 as my van payload could handle all the collective weight and the larger size tank meant i never have to worry about running out of water in a day. So its more peace of mind really and not limiting my work load.
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Friend of mines just had the new x line fitted lovely piece of kit you should check these out too
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the xline tanks look mint i like the lid ider that is sunk so when water sloshes out the lid hole it dont get ur van wet like a standerd tank
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Depends want you want? And full system with filter and plumbing install or just a delivery system I have a static for my purewater so just transfer to my van mine is the facelift compact 325 works faultlessly and very happy with it.
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after a year use it looks like it ten years old !!
There’s a clue in there I think.
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Purefreedom I would say are prob the best option .... they are engineers , reasonable prices and their kit is top quality .... I would also say that the water genie system is a good set up as are xline , GrippaTank and pure 2o ... but it's Purefreedom for me all day long ...
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http://thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/500l-platinum-water-genie-professional-system-ro--free-installation--6161-p.asp
This is what I have. For the price you can't go wrong also its local to me if anything goes wrong!
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Wow! the price of these things!
Make your own, Youtube it or ask on here how to!
I made my own, the beauty of that is, when it goes wrong(if it goes wrong) you know how to fix it - right there and then!
ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, PEOPLE!
Wake up and stop being ripped off.
I no longer use a tank system, down sized to a barrel/trolly system. Also made that myself. You tube it!
Also, one last thing... Buy a Gardiner pole - proper job!
Couldn't make that - Sorry!
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The ready made ones from places like PF, Gardiners etc are professionally built and engineered and use quality pumps, batteries wiring etc.
Pump, battery and flow meter will set you back £250+ then all the other bits and bats then the trolley itself.
By the time you've messed about you could have bought one complete for £480 inc VAT and be out there earning it back instead of faffing about sourcing stuff and building it.
They also look professional.
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How many people/clients actually look in the back of your van??
It depends if your producing pure water in your van or not. If not all you need is a tank and a pump, preferably some type of flow controller as well. So if your going for this option, i wish i had the head knowledge i now have at the time of purchase. I do believe we pay over the odds for certain aspects required. You then need to decide which purifier you want.
Van mounts are better in my opinion, but thats down to water production speed. It also lools more professional i agree, but who are you showing??
I have the purefreedom diy system as said in an earlier post. My van inside looks very smart and professional. I would dare say i could have done it cheaper, but getting all the equipment in one go and from one source is worth that extra spend
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I have an ionic system and van for sale - if interested please leave contact details
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It would help if you could expand on that rather than just saying what you’ve said. It doesn’t help anyone who’s in the market for new kit.
we had a lay flat tank built to fit a new connect we desgined it the he wanted to have it payed the deposit ect ect ect , after 3 months of couldn't get hold of him along with non stop bull and lies on the phone the day came too pick the new tank up , so off he went only to find sarcgill had given up his unit and not told anybody ,
picked it from his house only to find it was a right dump hole , the new tank was stored outside , the reels had been put in the wrong place , along with the battery holder , any way he picked it up as it was fully payed for by this time and we sorted the reels out ourselfs
the lid as never been water tight , it air locks stood still on flat road , and after a year use it looks like it ten years old !!
need I go on about the rest of the stuff we bought off him that I send back to been redone because it wasn't the right size never to see them again let alone a refund
Why dont you go and put dirt on his windows?
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Like them all, but water works systems look nice.
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stop away from stephen scargill hes a rip off plus his lay flat tanks are utter poope
Im not sure this is a fair comment as it is certainly not my experience. I bought two systems of him 6 months ago. Great service, delivered on time, no problems :)
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Like them all, but water works systems look nice.
Hello Mr A :)
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X line deff worth a look at.
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Grippa
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stop away from stephen scargill hes a rip off plus his lay flat tanks are utter poope
Im not sure this is a fair comment as it is certainly not my experience. I bought two systems of him 6 months ago. Great service, delivered on time, no problems :)
Unless you have a YouTube channel, Heavily followed facebook pages and something like a window cleaning magazine!! I would take the wee lassies words on board.
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Had a two man 650 litre system fitted by purefreedom 5 yrs ago, only had to replace pumps and a battery so would defo recommend
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Owner is bit of a t**t though after spending nearly 3k he charged me for a couple og rectus fittings
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Build your own.
1 x Tank installed solidly up against thebulkhead. Get a welder to make up a cage and bolt it through your van floor with spreader plates and angle iron.
1 x Outlet hose including 1 x inline filter
1 x Pump
1 x Hose to reel.
1 x Reel with 80 to 100m of hose on it.
1 x Gardiners pole.
What more do you need except an RO and resin chamber in your garden? Or if needs must in your van.
Utter nonsense about Wydale tanks not being good enough.
I've got a layflat 650 with two "holes" in it. Oh and an immersion heater.
No sea sickness, no issues. Nor did I have with a 400 with one "hole" in it in a Doblo.
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I'm sick to the back teeth with these sea sickness claims, tanks not safe etc.
I worked for a company that said you have to secure your work bag/lunch box with the passenger seat belt, the tool box had to be secured to the passenger foot well. So what happened when you had a passenger or the tool box wasn't secured to the floor or an eye wash etc was out of date... It's all well n good putting these things in writing but in reality the UK could come to a stand still with workers being off with paper cuts.
I was reported for walking up the stairs with one hand on the hand rail and the other holding my lunch box, I explained to this wee arse hole what three points of contact was but they still reported me as I should have used the lift. I was then approached by a suit who wanted "a word". Needless to say I made a song and dance about my ability to carry out my job if I had to use a lift every time I had something in one hand. There's being safe and there's being ridiculous.
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Lets hope all this poope goes out with the EU.