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Title: Window Cleaning Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: mike1986 on December 29, 2016, 09:32:41 am
Tried leaving a small plug in radiator in back of van overnight but equipment is still freezing up! What's the best way to deal with this?
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: nathankaye on December 29, 2016, 09:43:46 am
What size van is it and what watt radiator?

Mine is a fiat scudo so probably smaller, but a large plug in radiator keeps the frost of mine nicely. I dont have it on frost setting but high. On a timer to come on at midnight for a couple of hours and throughout night till morning.

If your having problems, do you drain your hoses, especially pole hose after finishing last job?  Fetch your main hose inside and throw an old blanket/duvet over pump etc.

Alternatively, have some sort of hot water system perhaps.......element or gas heater etc.
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: SeanK on December 29, 2016, 09:44:55 am
Cover your tank, pump, DI vessel if used in van with old sleeping bags or similar and if possible remove hose reel and
bring it inside.
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: JandS on December 29, 2016, 01:22:02 pm
Does radiator work Nathan....though all the heat would just rise to the roof and dissipate.
Anything low down would not benefit.
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: Smurf on December 29, 2016, 01:33:09 pm
You know when it's really cold as can end up with the water in the van tank  frozen solid too.
In prolonged sub zero temps when you can't work for day's/weeks in bad winter months cheapest form of frost protection is to just drain everything down properly including the van tank/s and bring kit indoors.

There is no point in trying to beat mother nature.
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: Dave Willis on December 29, 2016, 02:13:42 pm
Immersion element and a quilt over the hose reel.
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: robbo333 on December 29, 2016, 05:49:21 pm
My van is parked a little way from the house making it awkward to run electrics. Yesterday I made a pump box so now everything can come inside. Job done.
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: nathankaye on December 29, 2016, 06:00:57 pm
Does radiator work Nathan....though all the heat would just rise to the roof and dissipate.
Anything low down would not benefit.

I got carried away with the silverlined bubble wrap when i did my tank. I was fortunate when i got my van, its all fibregalssed. But like you said the van roof is just a sheet of panaling and so i sprayed glued two layers of wrap on it.

I sit my radiator inbetween my pump and hose reel and drop my pole hose close to it as well. This works for me
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: stu_thomson on December 30, 2016, 09:09:45 pm
Tropical fish tanker heater in tank?
Reasonable wattage
Will act like a giant radiator then wrap duvet over everything

Stu
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: duncan h on December 30, 2016, 10:38:30 pm
Never had tank water freeze but all pipes have. the smaller the pipe, the more it will freeze.
I put a oil rad in van. Never freezes if I do. I have to leave a note on house door, so I don't drive off with extension in back door lol
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: Nick_Thompson on January 02, 2017, 06:52:51 pm
Tropical fish tanker heater in tank?
Reasonable wattage
Will act like a giant radiator then wrap duvet over everything

Stu

Same as that, Stu. ☺
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: Frankybadboy on January 02, 2017, 07:02:31 pm
oil filled rad and never had a problem,
dont wait until its frozen to turn it on,get it on as soon asap and keep it on until your ready to drive off
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: mop-n-scrim on January 02, 2017, 08:28:12 pm
Dehumidifier & heater on frost stat.
Never a frozen van.
But we have the benefit of being able to run elec.
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: dazmond on January 03, 2017, 07:56:34 am
oil filled rad and never had a problem,
dont wait until its frozen to turn it on,get it on as soon asap and keep it on until your ready to drive off

exactly.you need to keep the radiator on all night on max setting IMO.forget using timers or min settings.mine is placed in between my reel and pumpbox at the back of my tank.it costs about £1-50 a night in electric.

if its forecast crazy low temperatures(like -15!)which is very rare then id also use an  aquarium heater dropped into my tank and a duvet over tank.
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: Richard Stevenson on January 04, 2017, 08:14:45 am
Has know one on this site got a gararge. If you have take all that junk out and put your van in, my Vivario fits perfect plus its not going to get stolen or broken into.
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on January 04, 2017, 09:54:04 am
diesel night heater . pull up switch on and forget it where everits parked job done
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: slap bash on January 04, 2017, 04:19:17 pm
I use a 500 watt fish tank heater hanging into my tank this prevent my tank and hoses freezing and low cost soluting.



Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: tomasxguty on January 04, 2017, 07:22:50 pm
The new propex/heatsource hs2000  night gas heater comes with a frost stat setting. It kicks in when the temperature inside the van drops to around 2°C and turns off  when it reaches 5°C. It's quiet, small and economical. Perfect for window cleaning vans.  Insulating the roof with the silver bubble wrap makes quite a difference too. Stay warm,  stay safe
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: Tom White on January 04, 2017, 08:21:39 pm
You know when it's really cold as can end up with the water in the van tank  frozen solid too.
In prolonged sub zero temps when you can't work for day's/weeks in bad winter months cheapest form of frost protection is to just drain everything down properly including the van tank/s and bring kit indoors.

There is no point in trying to beat mother nature.

Are you in Scotland, Smurf?

I think only once has it come close to that in SE Wales.
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: Michael Peterson on January 04, 2017, 08:43:46 pm
ive had the tank freeze in morpeth when it had to go to the garage for a week once
Title: Re: Equipment frozen...again!
Post by: Smurf on January 04, 2017, 11:35:32 pm
You know when it's really cold as can end up with the water in the van tank  frozen solid too.
In prolonged sub zero temps when you can't work for day's/weeks in bad winter months cheapest form of frost protection is to just drain everything down properly including the van tank/s and bring kit indoors.

There is no point in trying to beat mother nature.

Are you in Scotland, Smurf?

I think only once has it come close to that in SE Wales.

One bad winter down south I was was laid up for at total of 6 weeks post op, Anyway the weather was so bad I could have not worked anyway even if I wanted, During that time the water in the van tank turned into one big block of ice as that was the only thing I had left in the unheated van which I forgot to drain down.