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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Soupy on December 16, 2016, 03:56:15 pm
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I've been reading posts lately where people are going on about their different rounds.
For me a round is the entire job list for 1 man/squad. You start at the beginning then when you get to the end you go round again. Like a circle.
What is meant by round nowadays?
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I was think that the other day reading about this round and that round. People saying I have rounds all over etc.
Im a one man band so I have 1 window cleaning round.
Its spread across different towns but it's still one round. Start at the beginning and get round them all before starting again.
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Ebola was a round a few months back.
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I was think that the other day reading about this round and that round. People saying I have rounds all over etc.
Im a one man band so I have 1 window cleaning round.
Its spread across different towns but it's still one round. Start at the beginning and get round them all before starting again.
So if you was selling some work or as some would say, "a window round" would you be selling your entire work or round?? Or a part of it?
I use the term in the sence that i clean in 5 villages. 2 villages i do in a week, 2 days in each. The others, im there for 3 days or 5. So my work is segmented into 5 rounds. A round per wk except in one week there is 2. To me this organises my work nicely and im thankfull its all compact work.
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Probably just means that their frequency of work "round" they have decided to split up by the frequency and location into separate rounds to make it more manageable on a daily basis.
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I have 1 round with 16 routes, 4 routes per week
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To me a round is all my work , my round starts at the first property and finishes during the month when I complete the list!
Then it goes round again the following month
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I've been reading posts lately where people are going on about their different rounds.
For me a round is the entire job list for 1 man/squad. You start at the beginning then when you get to the end you go round again. Like a circle.
What is meant by round nowadays?
Exactly. There was a plonker on here, who shall remain anonymous, who couldn’t work one day because there were utility workers working in the road outside the houses he was due to clean.
So, why not just go and do tomorrows work today and do todays work tomorrow??
Nope, thats a different round!.
What of it, go and do it.
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I was think that the other day reading about this round and that round. People saying I have rounds all over etc.
Im a one man band so I have 1 window cleaning round.
Its spread across different towns but it's still one round. Start at the beginning and get round them all before starting again.
So if you was selling some work or as some would say, "a window round" would you be selling your entire work or round?? Or a part of it?
I use the term in the sence that i clean in 5 villages. 2 villages i do in a week, 2 days in each. The others, im there for 3 days or 5. So my work is segmented into 5 rounds. A round per wk except in one week there is 2. To me this organises my work nicely and im thankfull its all compact work.
I suppose if I was selling say 20% of my work or 50% or whatever I would sell it as a "round"
As if you bought that work and that work is all you had then it would be a round. If already had other work then that would become part of your round..you would still only have one round.
A round equals the sum total of your work imo
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I've never worked it like it's round I pick out jobs that are due and do them depending on what I want to do money wise,I might want to have Friday off so I'll pick out jobs that enables me to earn 2 days money in 1 day. I would never have a sheet of paper and work from top to bottom and do that every couple of months and then go out and do it all again in that order how boring is that. I do the biggest paid jobs due at the start of the week so the week gets off to a good start money wise,it's all about the money for me.
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Three pints of lager two Vodka with coke and a glass of red wine please.
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I've been reading posts lately where people are going on about their different rounds.
For me a round is the entire job list for 1 man/squad. You start at the beginning then when you get to the end you go round again. Like a circle.
What is meant by round nowadays?
yep i just have one super duper mega round. :)
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I've never worked it like it's round I pick out jobs that are due and do them depending on what I want to do money wise,I might want to have Friday off so I'll pick out jobs that enables me to earn 2 days money in 1 day. I would never have a sheet of paper and work from top to bottom and do that every couple of months and then go out and do it all again in that order how boring is that. I do the biggest paid jobs due at the start of the week so the week gets off to a good start money wise,it's all about the money for me.
I'd have thought that you would do your entire list in order because that's the most cost efficient way of doing it. I couldn't give a flying monkey's if it's boring. It's all about the money for me.
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So if you was selling some work or as some would say, "a window round" would you be selling your entire work or round?? Or a part of it?
I use the term in the sence that i clean in 5 villages. 2 villages i do in a week, 2 days in each. The others, im there for 3 days or 5. So my work is segmented into 5 rounds. A round per wk except in one week there is 2. To me this organises my work nicely and im thankfull its all compact work.
Oh right, well that's clear as mud.
If I was selling off some work it'd be part of a round. Whoever bought it would either add it to their round or it'd be their entire round.
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Yes it could be all your work (selling up) or say just a small part of it they don't want anymore for whatever reason.
Some will try to get shot of their crap work and also call it a round too.
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If you have 300 properties on your books, you start at property 1 and finish at property 300 and then start
again at property 1, doesn't matter how many properties you have or where they are as the same applies and that's a round.
Now if you take part of your round say 100 properties then as Soupy has said its part of your round but it may become a round
to the person that buys it.
Very complicated stuff cleaning windows that's why only the smartest succeed. lol.
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Perhaps its a northern thing ;D
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My understanding is that we are all adults on this site, dispite being new to window cleaning or experienced workers in the game for many years. If someone (like myself) has a massive or quite an extensive round and wishes to segment it into smaller rounds in order to organise his or her books and working schedule. Or somebody chooses to cherry pick their work for most profit first and keaving dross till last for financial reasons,,,,,,does it really matter. For threads on here, im sure we all have (dispite level of intellect) an understanding of the thread via reading it in context, even you soupy 😉😂
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I personally don't have any what you call dross work although some are better priced than others,as years have gone by i have got rid of low paying work. If weather is bad over an extended period I can catch up easily money wise I'm not interested if I catch up with behind work that's late. If you have a so called religious route you do it becomes almost impossible to catch the cash up over the course of a month or week,I like to do what work I fancy by choice to a certain extent I might think I fancy doing 3 jobs here and 1 big job there and I've done my money for the day.
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I personally don't have any what you call dross work although some are better priced than others,as years have gone by i have got rid of low paying work. If weather is bad over an extended period I can catch up easily money wise I'm not interested if I catch up with behind work that's late. If you have a so called religious route you do it becomes almost impossible to catch the cash up over the course of a month or week,I like to do what work I fancy by choice to a certain extent I might think I fancy doing 3 jobs here and 1 big job there and I've done my money for the day.
But surely, if these jobs are monthly and you did those 3 jobs and that 1 big job at the end of the month then they wouldn't be due until end of next month?
Or would you do them at the end of the month and then because you need cash , you would then do them a week later because your into next month ???
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wrong time of the month.
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In my houshold there is never a right time of the month with my missus ;D
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I personally don't have any what you call dross work although some are better priced than others,as years have gone by i have got rid of low paying work. If weather is bad over an extended period I can catch up easily money wise I'm not interested if I catch up with behind work that's late. If you have a so called religious route you do it becomes almost impossible to catch the cash up over the course of a month or week,I like to do what work I fancy by choice to a certain extent I might think I fancy doing 3 jobs here and 1 big job there and I've done my money for the day.
But surely, if these jobs are monthly and you did those 3 jobs and that 1 big job at the end of the month then they wouldn't be due until end of next month?
Or would you do them at the end of the month and then because you need cash , you would then do them a week later because your into next month ???
I have a lot of days like that day I never or rarely do anymore than 6-8 jobs a day I get offered to quote estate or cup de sac work but I turn it down I have a minimum in my mind I want to earn ,I have found over the years small houses are harder work higher volumes are needed hence more rushing around every day. I'd rather park up once and earn more doing that 1 job than i could doing 4/5 houses,it's taken years picking up and dropping jobs but I can now work every day without running.,it's not the amount of houses you have written down on a sheet of paper when you go out in the morning it's the amount in your pocket for the littlest effort.
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50-60 houses a day blimey where do you work lego land 😂
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My understanding is that we are all adults on this site, dispite being new to window cleaning or experienced workers in the game for many years. If someone (like myself) has a massive or quite an extensive round and wishes to segment it into smaller rounds in order to organise his or her books and working schedule. Or somebody chooses to cherry pick their work for most profit first and keaving dross till last for financial reasons,,,,,,does it really matter. For threads on here, im sure we all have (dispite level of intellect) an understanding of the thread via reading it in context, even you soupy
Sure, if you want your round to be a jumbled mess, crack on mate, I don't care. But you can't just start miss-naming things or it gets confusing.
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The idea is to have next to no jobs you hate or
Dread doing,how many times in the past have you sat indoors on a Sunday and thought oh no I've got to go there tomorrow that's gonna put me behind or stop me earning more money that's my point.
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The idea is to have next to no jobs you hate or
Dread doing,how many times in the past have you sat indoors on a Sunday and thought oh no I've got to go there tomorrow that's gonna put me behind or stop me earning more money that's my point.
We've all (probably) got bits of our rounds that are better than others. My mindset is just get your head down and get on with it. You've got to take the rough with the smooth. It's pointless making today great if you're just making tomorrow worse.
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The idea is to have next to no jobs you hate or
Dread doing,how many times in the past have you sat indoors on a Sunday and thought oh no I've got to go there tomorrow that's gonna put me behind or stop me earning more money that's my point.
We've all (probably) got bits of our rounds that are better than others. My mindset is just get your head down and get on with it. You've got to take the rough with the smooth. It's pointless making today great if you're just making tomorrow worse.
How often do you go out Soupy? To clean windows I mean?
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How often do you get out Soupy? To lick windows I mean?
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Not often.
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If your sending people out to clean windows your mind set is totally different,in previous posts I've said this some people have to take anything on as in some cases it's a numbers game for them therefore they are unable to conceive that I can earn my money doing a fraction of jobs because it's quality work. I met a WC the other who was quick to tell me he had 600 houses,I thought blimey that's a lot but if you compared his 600 to someone else's 150 houses that are quality he's running round like a headless chicken doing 450 more jobs for less money lol just shows you even some WCs have a brain.
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If your sending people out to clean windows your mind set is totally different,
That's right. I reckon Soupy's too far removed from being a sole trader to judge.
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If your sending people out to clean windows your mind set is totally different,
That's right. I reckon Soupy's too far removed from being a sole trader to judge.
I cleaned windows full time for over a decade. The business model doesn't change if you scale it up.
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If your sending people out to clean windows your mind set is totally different,
That's right. I reckon Soupy's too far removed from being a sole trader to judge.
I cleaned windows full time for over a decade. The business model doesn't change if you scale it up.
True, but I don't mind sending others out to do jobs I don't like. If I worked alone as a sole trader I'd just drop them.
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The idea is to have next to no jobs you hate or
Dread doing,how many times in the past have you sat indoors on a Sunday and thought oh no I've got to go there tomorrow that's gonna put me behind or stop me earning more money that's my point.
We've all (probably) got bits of our rounds that are better than others. My mindset is just get your head down and get on with it. You've got to take the rough with the smooth. It's pointless making today great if you're just making tomorrow worse.
Totally agree, once you start dumping work because you think other work is easier/ better then its only a matter of time until that easier better work becomes the next day dread.
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Your mind set changes bexause you see it as income because you're not cleaning it like I said employing it becomes a numbers game,I sub out work I wouldn't do myself that's the proof it was good I'd have it for myself. You need to have had hard graft before to know what's an easy day cleaning Windows,I've done the 20 + houses a day jobs that is not an easy day cleaning Windows,doing 6-7 jobs a day is it's full time money for part time hours if you so wish but if your greedy like me and can get it down to even less jobs than that it's happy days,people that are doing 25-30 jobs a week know I'm right.
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Your mind set changes bexause you see it as income because you're not cleaning it like I said employing it becomes a numbers game,I sub out work I wouldn't do myself that's the proof it was good I'd have it for myself. You need to have had hard graft before to know what's an easy day cleaning Windows,I've done the 20 + houses a day jobs that is not an easy day cleaning Windows,doing 6-7 jobs a day is it's full time money for part time hours if you so wish but if your greedy like me and can get it down to even less jobs than that it's happy days,people that are doing 25-30 jobs a week know I'm right.
theres pros and cons with cleaning 20-25 jobs a day versus 6 or 7 jobs a day.(luckily i have a mixture of both).
if you have a lot of smaller very compact jobs it doesnt hurt too much when you lose a couple here and there compared to losing a few bigger jobs and you tend to pick up more add ons from your existing customers,use less fuel,less wear and tear on the van and less reeling in/out.oh and more xmas tips and cups of coffee! ;D
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,people that are doing 25-30 jobs a week know I'm right.
You're right !! ;D
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Or less ;D
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Anyway. The 'my jobbie is bigger than your jobbie' talk has no relevance. You need to do it in the most cost efficient way and skipping a job that you are intending to come back to get another day because you don't fancy doing it today isn't cost efficient, it's daft. Regardless of size.
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Financially true. Not necessarily the case mentally though.
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Anyway. The 'my jobbie is bigger than your jobbie' talk has no relevance. You need to do it in the most cost efficient way and skipping a job that you are intending to come back to get another day because you don't fancy doing it today isn't cost efficient, it's daft. Regardless of size.
Being cost effective is only one part of running a successful business, customer service (two bad words on here) and reputation
also play a part.
If it costs you a few quid to go back (once in a blue moon) to protect your reputation and offer the customer a bit of genuine
customer service so what.
There are guys on here who seem to be in constant battle with their customers to see who going to come out on top.
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Anyway. The 'my jobbie is bigger than your jobbie' talk has no relevance. You need to do it in the most cost efficient way and skipping a job that you are intending to come back to get another day because you don't fancy doing it today isn't cost efficient, it's daft. Regardless of size.
Being cost effective is only one part of running a successful business, customer service (two bad words on here) and reputation
also play a part.
If it costs you a few quid to go back (once in a blue moon) to protect your reputation and offer the customer a bit of genuine
customer service so what.
There are guys on here who seem to be in constant battle with their customers to see who going to come out on top.
Of course. But to fundamentally and intentionally organise your round in a haphazard, inefficient manor is silly.
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Anyway. The 'my jobbie is bigger than your jobbie' talk has no relevance. You need to do it in the most cost efficient way and skipping a job that you are intending to come back to get another day because you don't fancy doing it today isn't cost efficient, it's daft. Regardless of size.
This is the main problem on here some people offer advise and it's seen to be bragging,I'm saying don't think that you need to go out and clean a ridiculous amount of houses a day to earn white collar money because you don't. Each of us have a different outlook on life and work and what we want out of it,the truth is you need to use your loaf when taking on jobs,if you take jobs on for jobs sake you'll more or
Less always have a certain amount of crap work. I treat jobs like people dump the bad ones look after the good ones,if you've got work you hate doing get rid of it or replace it or at least put it up to an amount that gets you motivated,with work I'm all about the money.
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Anyway. The 'my jobbie is bigger than your jobbie' talk has no relevance. You need to do it in the most cost efficient way and skipping a job that you are intending to come back to get another day because you don't fancy doing it today isn't cost efficient, it's daft. Regardless of size.
This is the main problem on here some people offer advise and it's seen to be bragging,I'm saying don't think that you need to go out and clean a ridiculous amount of houses a day to earn white collar money because you don't. Each of us have a different outlook on life and work and what we want out of it,the truth is you need to use your loaf when taking on jobs,if you take jobs on for jobs sake you'll more or
Less always have a certain amount of crap work. I treat jobs like people dump the bad ones look after the good ones,if you've got work you hate doing get rid of it or replace it or at least put it up to an amount that gets you motivated,with work I'm all about the money.
Pricing your work (or even picking and choosing it) and organising your round into a logical and cost effective order are separate issues.
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No that's not the point at all as soon as someone eludes that they may be doing well the knockers call.
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No that's not the point at all as soon as someone eludes that they may be doing well the knockers call.
Indeed they do but that is not the point of the thread.