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Title: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: jo5hm4n on December 07, 2016, 02:11:28 pm
Just seen a round for sale online in the Manchester area.  Monthly value £1000 made up of just under 200 properties.  So that's basically £5 on average per property.  Asking price - £10,000!  You mad bro?  Been established 40 years.  Sounds like the prices haven't gone up in 40 years!  All trad aswell.

Ahh, maybe it's just me but i cant see how you can charge 10x monthly amount for a round when average price is £5, and nearly all houses too.

All i will say is good luck to the guy i hope he sells it and gets what hes looking for.
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Smurf on December 07, 2016, 02:26:24 pm
I bet that's still 2 weekly too. Bless him  ;D
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Shrek on December 07, 2016, 02:27:00 pm
TBH I hope rounds like these don't sell , then the custys have no choice but to go elsewhere and chances are to someone else who's charging a few bob more
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Smurf on December 07, 2016, 02:31:01 pm
Still you can't blame the chap for trying though
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: nathankaye on December 07, 2016, 02:34:23 pm
TBH I hope rounds like these don't sell , then the custys have no choice but to go elsewhere and chances are to someone else who's charging a few bob more

+1
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: nathankaye on December 07, 2016, 02:35:14 pm
Lol, so any shiners in the manchester area, get ready to do some canvassing cause theres gonna be some work  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Smurf on December 07, 2016, 02:48:03 pm
If he sells at that price you never know he might even throw in his rags a bucket too. ;D
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: SeanK on December 07, 2016, 02:59:12 pm
TBH I hope rounds like these don't sell , then the custys have no choice but to go elsewhere and chances are to someone else who's charging a few bob more

The 35 a day guys will be fighting over it, that and buying a couple of year old CLX18's for £200 a pop on Ebay and they will think Christmas has come early. lol.
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Smurf on December 07, 2016, 03:08:42 pm
What would happen if it sold then all on the round did not like the look of the new chap as it's the punters decied who they want to do the work not the other way around surely?
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Shrek on December 07, 2016, 03:19:48 pm
Luckily for him , there's someone who wants a round in Manchester on the work for sale page on ciu
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: 8weekly on December 07, 2016, 04:35:06 pm
TBH I hope rounds like these don't sell , then the custys have no choice but to go elsewhere and chances are to someone else who's charging a few bob more

The 35 a day guys will be fighting over it, that and buying a couple of year old CLX18's for £200 a pop on Ebay and they will think Christmas has come early. lol.
Do you not believe them? I do, but I reckon it would only happen with cheap work - £5-8 a house. If that's what I charged I'd do that many but the quality would suffer. At that price though, who's going to complain?
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: SeanK on December 07, 2016, 06:13:48 pm
TBH I hope rounds like these don't sell , then the custys have no choice but to go elsewhere and chances are to someone else who's charging a few bob more

The 35 a day guys will be fighting over it, that and buying a couple of year old CLX18's for £200 a pop on Ebay and they will think Christmas has come early. lol.
Do you not believe them? I do, but I reckon it would only happen with cheap work - £5-8 a house. If that's what I charged I'd do that many but the quality would suffer. At that price though, who's going to complain?

I wouldn't say that I don't believe them other than maybe a down play on property size, most of my replies on the subject have been similar to what you have just posted so totally agree.
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: JandS on December 07, 2016, 06:29:37 pm
At the end of the day all your buying is good faith.
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Steven Biggs on December 07, 2016, 07:05:05 pm
I did some £5 houses on Monday . A new build estate well it's about 6. Years old now . All town houses and not one has access  to the back unless you go through the garage . So it's all fronts . 1 small top window . 2 small middle floor windows . 1 small ground floor window and 1 pvc door with no glass . Got 18 of em all on the same street . Pull the hose out and start at the furthest and work back to the van . The lad works from the trolley as it's filling on the nearest to the van . Took us 50  minutes . He finishes the last one and sides away while I ticket em and collect . Love em .
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: duncan h on December 07, 2016, 07:33:23 pm
I did some £5 houses on Monday . A new build estate well it's about 6. Years old now . All town houses and not one has access  to the back unless you go through the garage . So it's all fronts . 1 small top window . 2 small middle floor windows . 1 small ground floor window and 1 pvc door with no glass . Got 18 of em all on the same street . Pull the hose out and start at the furthest and work back to the van . The lad works from the trolley as it's filling on the nearest to the van . Took us 50  minutes . He finishes the last one and sides away while I ticket em and collect . Love em .
I have always stayed clear of the cheap cleans, but am coming round to the idea of banging £5, 6 and 7 houses out
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Plankton on December 07, 2016, 08:41:37 pm
TBH I hope rounds like these don't sell , then the custys have no choice but to go elsewhere and chances are to someone else who's charging a few bob more

The 35 a day guys will be fighting over it, that and buying a couple of year old CLX18's for £200 a pop on Ebay and they will think Christmas has come early. lol.
Do you not believe them? I do, but I reckon it would only happen with cheap work - £5-8 a house. If that's what I charged I'd do that many but the quality would suffer. At that price though, who's going to complain?
Believe me these £5.00 custys are more than willing to complain just as much as a £25.00 house would. Took on a run few months back and there's £34.00 houses that send the kids to say "she got no money on her" doesn't have online banking and no cheque book! 
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Stoots on December 07, 2016, 08:52:29 pm
Haha

seen plenty like this locally, there not worth anything, i would pay 1x max , double the prices probably lose 75% of them and hope i got a decent amount left

200 houses for 1000 lol

Had a trad guy offer me similar recently, 800 quid of work 180 custies
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Stoots on December 07, 2016, 08:54:51 pm
TBH I hope rounds like these don't sell , then the custys have no choice but to go elsewhere and chances are to someone else who's charging a few bob more

The 35 a day guys will be fighting over it, that and buying a couple of year old CLX18's for £200 a pop on Ebay and they will think Christmas has come early. lol.
Do you not believe them? I do, but I reckon it would only happen with cheap work - £5-8 a house. If that's what I charged I'd do that many but the quality would suffer. At that price though, who's going to complain?

I wouldn't say that I don't believe them other than maybe a down play on property size, most of my replies on the subject have been similar to what you have just posted so totally agree.

correct, slap dash 7 quidders, 40 a day.. what a life eh




Its not only the problem of cleaning that many, its the admin, chasing payments.

Less customers at higher prices equals less hassle, less to chase for payments etc

40 a day smokers, 800 custies a month to keep happy and chase around for your brass, no thanks
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 07, 2016, 11:00:08 pm
TBH I hope rounds like these don't sell , then the custys have no choice but to go elsewhere and chances are to someone else who's charging a few bob more

The 35 a day guys will be fighting over it, that and buying a couple of year old CLX18's for £200 a pop on Ebay and they will think Christmas has come early. lol.
Do you not believe them? I do, but I reckon it would only happen with cheap work - £5-8 a house. If that's what I charged I'd do that many but the quality would suffer. At that price though, who's going to complain?

I wouldn't say that I don't believe them other than maybe a down play on property size, most of my replies on the subject have been similar to what you have just posted so totally agree.
What do you mean by a down play on property size Sean? I said that the houses I mentioned were modern detached, so Persimmons, Taylor Wimpey etc, as far as I know these houses are built to the same specification throughout the country.
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: dazmond on December 08, 2016, 07:44:53 am
Just seen a round for sale online in the Manchester area.  Monthly value £1000 made up of just under 200 properties.  So that's basically £5 on average per property.  Asking price - £10,000!  You mad bro?  Been established 40 years.  Sounds like the prices haven't gone up in 40 years!  All trad aswell.

Ahh, maybe it's just me but i cant see how you can charge 10x monthly amount for a round when average price is £5, and nearly all houses too.

All i will say is good luck to the guy i hope he sells it and gets what hes looking for.

what if you could get the work cleaned in 4 or 5 days and most work was fronts only?doesnt sound too bad now does it?not at 10k of course but say 3k? ;D
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: SeanK on December 08, 2016, 08:52:59 am
TBH I hope rounds like these don't sell , then the custys have no choice but to go elsewhere and chances are to someone else who's charging a few bob more

The 35 a day guys will be fighting over it, that and buying a couple of year old CLX18's for £200 a pop on Ebay and they will think Christmas has come early. lol.
Do you not believe them? I do, but I reckon it would only happen with cheap work - £5-8 a house. If that's what I charged I'd do that many but the quality would suffer. At that price though, who's going to complain?

I wouldn't say that I don't believe them other than maybe a down play on property size, most of my replies on the subject have been similar to what you have just posted so totally agree.
What do you mean by a down play on property size Sean? I said that the houses I mentioned were modern detached, so Persimmons, Taylor Wimpey etc, as far as I know these houses are built to the same specification throughout the country.

90% of the properties I clean are modern detached, even though some are next to each other it still takes a van move and hose
reel out and in for each of them, a number of factors will determine how quickly I get to washing the glass but at a guess
you would be talking to an average total of around 10mins each of non on the glass time.
So obviously the detached properties your talking about aren't the ones I'm thinking of.



Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Steven Biggs on December 08, 2016, 11:26:23 am
Can't you reel out once and do 2 or 3 at a time , then leave your pole in the  next garden .move the van near the next properties . I can go a few full mornings without reeling back in . But obviously the reel is fastened in the van .
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: SeanK on December 08, 2016, 11:49:23 am
Can't you reel out once and do 2 or 3 at a time , then leave your pole in the  next garden .move the van near the next properties . I can go a few full mornings without reeling back in . But obviously the reel is fastened in the van .

Not really, the detached properties I clean tend to be on decent sized plots with private drives, fences, hedges and so on, its better to pull onto their drives, clean, pack up and move next door, dragging the hose behind wouldn't be an option.
Have a few semi's on open plan plots where I can get 2 or 3 at a time so understand what your saying.
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Steven Biggs on December 08, 2016, 12:00:21 pm
Right . That's the only way i do them as well . Thought you meant the open plan type gardens .
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: nathankaye on December 08, 2016, 01:25:35 pm
So what were saying is,,,,,each person adapts to his or her rounds and maximizes the best/quickest and convienient way of cleaning them..........interesting

 ;D
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 08, 2016, 02:51:06 pm
Right . That's the only way i do them as well . Thought you meant the open plan type gardens .
Ah, that's the one, open plan type gardens. This is the type of work I was referring to when I was shot down by people who think they know my round better than I do.
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Steven Biggs on December 08, 2016, 03:37:03 pm
Yeh I'm with you on this one . I can park up do the upstairs fronts on 6 or 7 of these type houses , drop the pole do all the bottoms . Probably 15 minutes .
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Smurf on December 08, 2016, 03:52:33 pm
Now we are upto 24 - 28 (fronts only) an hour now. Can anyone beat that?  ;D
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 08, 2016, 04:07:03 pm
TBH I hope rounds like these don't sell , then the custys have no choice but to go elsewhere and chances are to someone else who's charging a few bob more

The 35 a day guys will be fighting over it, that and buying a couple of year old CLX18's for £200 a pop on Ebay and they will think Christmas has come early. lol.
Do you not believe them? I do, but I reckon it would only happen with cheap work - £5-8 a house. If that's what I charged I'd do that many but the quality would suffer. At that price though, who's going to complain?

I wouldn't say that I don't believe them other than maybe a down play on property size, most of my replies on the subject have been similar to what you have just posted so totally agree.
What do you mean by a down play on property size Sean? I said that the houses I mentioned were modern detached, so Persimmons, Taylor Wimpey etc, as far as I know these houses are built to the same specification throughout the country.

90% of the properties I clean are modern detached, even though some are next to each other it still takes a van move and hose
reel out and in for each of them, a number of factors will determine how quickly I get to washing the glass but at a guess
you would be talking to an average total of around 10mins each of non on the glass time.
So obviously the detached properties your talking about aren't the ones I'm thinking of.
And there lies the problem, you have chosen to ridicule the amount of houses I clean based purely on what you  experience with your own round. Like many others on here for some reason you seem to think you know a round better than the person who actually works it. If you really want to ( I know you do ;D ) why don't you google Priorwood Drive Dunfermline and tell me how much down time you think you would have if you had a full day in this street, and how many houses you could clean.
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 09, 2016, 02:04:22 pm
Bump for Sean K ^^^^^^^
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: SeanK on December 09, 2016, 02:56:43 pm
Bump for Sean K ^^^^^^^

Sorry mate its no longer the fact you clean 45 of those properties per day ( yeah right )but that you charge £7 to £8 for the
privilege, I will never complain about the pricing in my area again.
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: SeanK on December 09, 2016, 03:05:04 pm
TBH I hope rounds like these don't sell , then the custys have no choice but to go elsewhere and chances are to someone else who's charging a few bob more

The 35 a day guys will be fighting over it, that and buying a couple of year old CLX18's for £200 a pop on Ebay and they will think Christmas has come early. lol.
Do you not believe them? I do, but I reckon it would only happen with cheap work - £5-8 a house. If that's what I charged I'd do that many but the quality would suffer. At that price though, who's going to complain?

I wouldn't say that I don't believe them other than maybe a down play on property size, most of my replies on the subject have been similar to what you have just posted so totally agree.
What do you mean by a down play on property size Sean? I said that the houses I mentioned were modern detached, so Persimmons, Taylor Wimpey etc, as far as I know these houses are built to the same specification throughout the country.

90% of the properties I clean are modern detached, even though some are next to each other it still takes a van move and hose
reel out and in for each of them, a number of factors will determine how quickly I get to washing the glass but at a guess
you would be talking to an average total of around 10mins each of non on the glass time.
So obviously the detached properties your talking about aren't the ones I'm thinking of.
And there lies the problem, you have chosen to ridicule the amount of houses I clean based purely on what you  experience with your own round. Like many others on here for some reason you seem to think you know a round better than the person who actually works it. If you really want to ( I know you do ;D ) why don't you google Priorwood Drive Dunfermline and tell me how much down time you think you would have if you had a full day in this street, and how many houses you could clean.

Probably about 15 but Iv never been that quick am 8 weekly plus i also clean the doors, so would say most would hit around the 20 mark  as an average.
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 09, 2016, 04:33:21 pm
Bump for Sean K ^^^^^^^

Sorry mate its no longer the fact you clean 45 of those properties per day ( yeah right )but that you charge £7 to £8 for the
privilege, I will never complain about the pricing in my area again.
What's with the ( yeah right ) ? I know for a fact that's what I cleaned on that day. As for pricing, each to their own but I'm sure most would be quite happy with what I earned for just over 6 hours work.
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: Smurf on December 09, 2016, 07:24:42 pm
Yeah right...Whatevvvvvvvvvver innit  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: jonboywalton75 on December 11, 2016, 09:15:31 am
All on same estate
I'd do 25 a day
I'd want more than £7 or £8 though
Obviously I don't live in Scotland
Title: Re: Good Luck Chuck!
Post by: JandS on December 11, 2016, 09:56:33 am
Love those sort of houses, single pane windows no top hangers.