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Title: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Mick Kent on December 02, 2016, 06:36:03 pm
I dont mean massive detached houses i mean run of the mill work as Daz would call it. Bought quite a bit of work lately thats nice and compact that isnt my famous front only runs and i struggle to do 15 somedays without it getting dark from starting at 9 on domestics  My plan was to be hitting 20/25 everyday and really smash it but it just doesnt happen, lose so much time with chatty customers and gaining access waiting about! How does that compare with others?
When i do fronts i hit 30/35 with ease without having chin wags as i get through them so fast, just a shame i havnt enough for a full month anymore from selling so much off. Will get there again soon enough when i get my arse into canvass Mick mode.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: duncan h on December 02, 2016, 06:42:30 pm
I dont mean massive detached houses i mean run of the mill work as Daz would call it. Bought quite a bit of work lately thats nice and compact that isnt my famous front only runs and i struggle to do 15 somedays without it getting dark from starting at 9 on domestics  My plan was to be hitting 20/25 everyday and really smash it but it just doesnt happen, lose so much time with chatty customers and gaining access waiting about! How does that compare with others?
When i do fronts i hit 30/35 with ease without having chin wags as i get through them so fast, just a shame i havnt enough for a full month anymore from selling so much off. Will get there again soon enough when i get my arse into canvass Mick mode.
So you do 9am to about 4.30pm. That's 7 hours plus a small break. Your doing something wrong lol
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Mick Kent on December 02, 2016, 06:46:44 pm
Exactly, i cant see where im going wrong! Doing it on my own admittedly not breaking a sweat but still working, i am on the phone quite a lot which wastes time and where has been cold maybe stay in van betwee stops for 10/15mins. Maybe if i pull my finger out ill achieve what i plan to, i just want it all to be easy i guess. 
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: dazmond on December 02, 2016, 06:50:42 pm
very compact smallish 3 bedders i clean around 20-25 a day working 6 hours "on the glass" usually mick.

some of them have extensions and connys too.i have 20 mins  for lunch and maybe 10 mins for a quick chat with a customer and a brew.thats it.

your probably  giving the new customers a bit more chat time than you would if you d cleaned the work for years plus you find quicker ways of cleaning the same work when you ve done them for years. ;)

high flow,hot water,univalves,xtreme poles all help too.as most of this type of work is 4 weekly you can fly round also. 8)
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: dazmond on December 02, 2016, 06:54:58 pm
i very rarely answer my phone when working mick and i only get in the van for lunch or to move it a few yards down the road! ;D

the day flies by working this way!

usually 9am-330pm (give or take 30 mins either morning or afternoon)
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Mick Kent on December 02, 2016, 06:57:29 pm
Nice 1 Daz. You stated the obvious but the obvious is what i need to do! I think your right where im new to the work hence it taking so long.  Top man you fellow VAG
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: dazmond on December 02, 2016, 06:59:00 pm
i also make a packed lunch and a flask every morning so no wasting time going to the bakery/chippy and i texted customers night before who have gates locked etc and even write chits and print invoices out the night before.

im always super organised which makes the day as efficient as possible.always thinking ahead to the next days work when filling up and doing my "end of day" jobs.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Jonny 87 on December 02, 2016, 07:55:33 pm
Very similar to the great Dasmodo for me, but I do a little bit more due to working longer.

On my own with pretty compact work I'm always pushing the 30 mark. Typical 3bed semis and the odd detached, and conservatory here and there. Prices up north can be a struggle at times so I've just honed things to be as quick and efficient as possible.

I start at 8am and usually finish for 4:30. But it's a no messing day. The odd chat here and there, but I try to keep it to a minimum. Thankfully most people are out.

I park in the best place possible to reach the most houses in one park up, as I'm cleaning the front door I put the invoice through. I stop for about 20 mins for my lunch (wife makes me a packed lunch).

I upgraded to a 650 litre "warm" tank too, and work with a high flow rate.

I usually aim to do a three bed semi in no longer than 10 to 15 minutes including parking up and writing the invoice too.

It is a hard working day but it's the way I like it.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Don Kee on December 02, 2016, 08:01:03 pm
Get a set of headphones
You can answer the phone and carry on working
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 02, 2016, 08:57:54 pm
i also make a packed lunch and a flask every morning so no wasting time going to the bakery/chippy and i texted customers night before who have gates locked etc and even write chits and print invoices out the night before.

im always super organised which makes the day as efficient as possible.always thinking ahead to the next days work when filling up and doing my "end of day" jobs.

Although I don't text custies - the above kind of organising can add between £40 and £60 to my day.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 02, 2016, 09:39:07 pm
Im thankful my rounds are mostly compact. I dont normally work with a set number of houses in mind, but in thinking of your question its probably between 30 n 35 a day.
Think its already been mentioned, but because these houses are new ish to you its bound to take a little longer. You'll find next time round you will probably be quicker and clean more in the day. Its also just tweeking little things,  a pack up for lunch, where you park, an extra jumper if cold rather than warming in van for 10/15mins as youve said, headphones which allow you to answer phone hands free are great. I use a blue tooth ear piece to answer my calls n one head phone listening to tunes so i can just crack on. Dont mind odd chin wag, as that builds the relationship with customer (less likely to replace you n great for xmas tips).
You will get there by 2 or 3 clean on new round
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Stoots on December 02, 2016, 09:49:41 pm
I do about 12-15 3 bed semis a day working 9-2/3  i have nothing compact mind.

It's a nice steady day and enough
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 02, 2016, 10:04:48 pm
Im thankful my rounds are mostly compact. I dont normally work with a set number of houses in mind, but in thinking of your question its probably between 30 n 35 a day.
Think its already been mentioned, but because these houses are new ish to you its bound to take a little longer. You'll find next time round you will probably be quicker and clean more in the day. Its also just tweeking little things,  a pack up for lunch, where you park, an extra jumper if cold rather than warming in van for 10/15mins as youve said, headphones which allow you to answer phone hands free are great. I use a blue tooth ear piece to answer my calls n one head phone listening to tunes so i can just crack on. Dont mind odd chin wag, as that builds the relationship with customer (less likely to replace you n great for xmas tips).
You will get there by 2 or 3 clean on new round

Get a grip on yourself 30 to 35 a day, I wonder are you the guy 8 weekly reads about on facebook.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Plankton on December 02, 2016, 10:13:03 pm
I do about 12-15 3 bed semis a day working 9-2/3  i have nothing compact mind.

It's a nice steady day and enough
Similar to myself but I tend to hit the glass later and finish later, (kids to school and messing about). The odd day I'll do 20 ish.
Modified; mostly detached houses.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 02, 2016, 10:17:07 pm
I'd say 15-20 is do able , a good mixture of semis , detached and front onlys . To do 30-35 seems a bit unbelievable imo , not because it can't be done in a very long day but tiredness would kick in etc and I just wouldn't be able to do it
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 02, 2016, 11:16:15 pm
I'd say 15-20 is do able , a good mixture of semis , detached and front onlys . To do 30-35 seems a bit unbelievable imo , not because it can't be done in a very long day but tiredness would kick in etc and I just wouldn't be able to do it

30 to 35 a day would mean 4 minimum to 5 an hour over 8 hours, as you say its possible but you certainly wouldn't be
selling a service on quality.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: chris turner on December 02, 2016, 11:56:25 pm
I didn't even do 30-35 working in a 2 man team many years ago.... But then I am lazy.
I guess if you work in areas where you can only charge £8-£10 then you need to be doing 25 plus houses a day.
Thank fook I live in doshville and only need to do 10 odd houses a day, maybe 13 if there low priced £15 jobs ( ;D  ;D ;D ).
I'm not cut out for doing 20 plus houses a day, every single day.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 03, 2016, 02:51:44 am
Haha, so let me get this right, because some are pushing the boat out and doing maybe 20 houses in a day, its near impossible to get the extra 10 house cleaned or more. Oh and if you do quality must suck,,,,,,,,n your telling me to get a grip haha you should be pulling your socks up and work out where your going wrong or is it an age thing!!

Im sure ive mentioned before my rounds are compact and well established, as in i clean rows of house, perhaps missing a few here n there on a street, but i have the vast majority. Clean all upstairs, walk back to begining of house n do all downstairs after brushing all sills n drip time has finished and onto next door,,,,,,,easy.

Lol did u guys trad clean before going wfp, i did for many years. But im guessing your the type of working who climb slowly up the ladder, took out the mop and wet tbe window. Put mop back into bucket on belt and pulled out the squeegee and bladed, carefully put squeegee away. Reach round to pouch and pulled out scrim, deailed the window, put back scrim and slowly climbed down ladder..........sounds boring n slow just reading it.  You must be the james may of window cleaners sean k haha
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: colin bird on December 03, 2016, 06:40:20 am
I normally do between 15-20 mixed houses per day,I find over 20 is do able,but  is boring and proper graft,not that I mind graft but I'm in a fairly good position so don't have to chase it like I used to
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 03, 2016, 07:08:26 am
Haha, so let me get this right, because some are pushing the boat out and doing maybe 20 houses in a day, its near impossible to get the extra 10 house cleaned or more. Oh and if you do quality must suck,,,,,,,,n your telling me to get a grip haha you should be pulling your socks up and work out where your going wrong or is it an age thing!!

Im sure ive mentioned before my rounds are compact and well established, as in i clean rows of house, perhaps missing a few here n there on a street, but i have the vast majority. Clean all upstairs, walk back to begining of house n do all downstairs after brushing all sills n drip time has finished and onto next door,,,,,,,easy.

Lol did u guys trad clean before going wfp, i did for many years. But im guessing your the type of working who climb slowly up the ladder, took out the mop and wet tbe window. Put mop back into bucket on belt and pulled out the squeegee and bladed, carefully put squeegee away. Reach round to pouch and pulled out scrim, deailed the window, put back scrim and slowly climbed down ladder..........sounds boring n slow just reading it.  You must be the james may of window cleaners sean k haha

Yes you seem to mention it in every post 😂
As well as how many years you've been a window cleaner , not just trad but wfp! 😂
...get to the point man .
It depends on what type of houses you clean , new builds - I could defo whack a few of those out in a day , 1940s big semis - not as many in a day.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: 8weekly on December 03, 2016, 07:10:39 am
I don't count jobs but rather the value. In general I know what total I want each person to do and the number of jobs varies. Generally 15-20 I guess. I did my first "full day" last week for some time as someone was off Ill and I started at 11 and finished at 3:50pm with 1/2 hour lunch. I did 17 jobs.

I don't know how someone manages 30 or more. They must be tough and incredibly quick.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Dave Willis on December 03, 2016, 07:28:14 am
30 a day would be a round of over 800 a month? Hmmm, minimim charge of £10, 80k a year,
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: 8weekly on December 03, 2016, 07:53:26 am
30 a day would be a round of over 800 a month? Hmmm, minimim charge of £10, 80k a year,
Yes, but if they were 8 weekly and your average was £20...... that becomes easy. The hard part is getting the work at the price (easier in the south east ofcourse).
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Dave Willis on December 03, 2016, 08:15:13 am
 ;D I love this forum!
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Mick Kent on December 03, 2016, 08:28:23 am
It isnt really about what can be earnt though as id prob smash the lot of you out the water with daily amounts on compact work  ;D ;D but i never go there, would like to know how many average houses over a 6 hour day others manage to do as i feel i could do more if i pulled my finger out a little more.  From this i cant see why im not hitting over 20 a day so when in Jan for the 2nd clean when they come up again im gonna really go for it and try smash 20/25 out. Thats the aim anyway, if not then no big deal, just means my plans will slighlty change and will have to do a bit more.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 03, 2016, 08:44:03 am
Haha, so let me get this right, because some are pushing the boat out and doing maybe 20 houses in a day, its near impossible to get the extra 10 house cleaned or more. Oh and if you do quality must suck,,,,,,,,n your telling me to get a grip haha you should be pulling your socks up and work out where your going wrong or is it an age thing!!

Im sure ive mentioned before my rounds are compact and well established, as in i clean rows of house, perhaps missing a few here n there on a street, but i have the vast majority. Clean all upstairs, walk back to begining of house n do all downstairs after brushing all sills n drip time has finished and onto next door,,,,,,,easy.

Lol did u guys trad clean before going wfp, i did for many years. But im guessing your the type of working who climb slowly up the ladder, took out the mop and wet tbe window. Put mop back into bucket on belt and pulled out the squeegee and bladed, carefully put squeegee away. Reach round to pouch and pulled out scrim, deailed the window, put back scrim and slowly climbed down ladder..........sounds boring n slow just reading it.  You must be the james may of window cleaners sean k haha

Do you also do carpet cleaning Nathan. lol.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf9I8Vvu8gI
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 03, 2016, 08:56:38 am
😂
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: 8weekly on December 03, 2016, 09:15:05 am
;D I love this forum!
Me too.  ;) I can't run a 4 minute mile but I don't doubt Mo Farah can.

30 houses is a lot, but I've seen a guy with a backpack in Scotland do a front in around a minute.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: andyM on December 03, 2016, 09:34:08 am
Me too.  ;) I can't run a 4 minute mile but I don't doubt Mo Farah can.

30 houses is a lot, but I've seen a guy with a backpack in Scotland do a front in around a minute.

Yes I remember that video too.
I'm fairly sure all of us could clean windows that quick if we were being filmed so we could big ourselves up on the mighty CIU.
I reckon i would probably have quality issues if i worked like that day in day out throughout the year.
As I remember it was early winter (maybe January) that was filmed, which in my years of window cleaning seem to be the time of year when windows stay fairly clean.
So I do take that demonstration with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: sunshine windows on December 03, 2016, 09:38:14 am
Quote
It isnt really about what can be earnt though as id prob smash the lot of you out the water with daily amounts on compact work  ;D ;D

Oh no you wouldn't!

Well it is panto season 😂😂😂
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: 8weekly on December 03, 2016, 09:38:51 am
Me too.  ;) I can't run a 4 minute mile but I don't doubt Mo Farah can.

30 houses is a lot, but I've seen a guy with a backpack in Scotland do a front in around a minute.

Yes I remember that video too.
I'm fairly sure all of us could clean windows that quick if we were being filmed so we could big ourselves up on the mighty CIU.
I reckon i would probably have quality issues if i worked like that day in day out throughout the year.
As I remember it was early winter (maybe January) that was filmed, which in my years of window cleaning seem to be the time of year when windows stay fairly clean.
So I do take that demonstration with a pinch of salt.
We're not talking 30 houses an hour though. It's 30 houses in 8 hours.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: andyM on December 03, 2016, 09:40:42 am
I was referring to the video with front of house in about a minute.
At that speed would be hitting the half century per day.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: sunshine windows on December 03, 2016, 09:43:34 am
Volume of houses is irrelevant Mick, as I'm sure you're well aware. It's all about the 💷.

If you can't do at least 2 an hour there's something seriously wrong with the way you're working. Just a generalisation, not aimed at you.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: dazmond on December 03, 2016, 09:44:06 am
to clean 30 houses a day on your own whether your trad or wfp  is pushing it a bit but not impossible but you will have to work more than 6 hours a day to achieve it. ;D

i prefer steady,brisk working at a measured pace than going hell for leather.

also i dont know what other window cleaners rounds are like but ive got a lot of other larger properties as well as the ultra compact stuff.

some days im only cleaning 5 to 10 houses a day! :)
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: 8weekly on December 03, 2016, 09:46:11 am
I was referring to the video with front of house in about a minute.
At that speed would be hitting the half century per day.
Yes I know. My point was that there is probably a quality/price point. £10 for a house and no one's going to quibble at a few spots are they?
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: chris turner on December 03, 2016, 09:52:14 am
Haha, so let me get this right, because some are pushing the boat out and doing maybe 20 houses in a day, its near impossible to get the extra 10 house cleaned or more. Oh and if you do quality must suck,,,,,,,,n your telling me to get a grip haha you should be pulling your socks up and work out where your going wrong or is it an age thing!!

Im sure ive mentioned before my rounds are compact and well established, as in i clean rows of house, perhaps missing a few here n there on a street, but i have the vast majority. Clean all upstairs, walk back to begining of house n do all downstairs after brushing all sills n drip time has finished and onto next door,,,,,,,easy.

Lol did u guys trad clean before going wfp, i did for many years. But im guessing your the type of working who climb slowly up the ladder, took out the mop and wet tbe window. Put mop back into bucket on belt and pulled out the squeegee and bladed, carefully put squeegee away. Reach round to pouch and pulled out scrim, deailed the window, put back scrim and slowly climbed down ladder..........sounds boring n slow just reading it.  You must be the james may of window cleaners sean k haha

Yes you seem to mention it in every post 😂
As well as how many years you've been a window cleaner , not just trad but wfp! 😂
...get to the point man .
It depends on what type of houses you clean , new builds - I could defo whack a few of those out in a day , 1940s big semis - not as many in a day.

Shrek made a good point there, it does also depend on the types of houses cleaned.
Some estates are all leaded, wood frame windows where you cant just go around wiggling your magic wand spraying your fluid everywhere.
A fair few houses take longer due to these issues, as well problem openers, dodgy vents, oxidising frames, difficult access windows, houses next to large trees where there always covered in sap or debris, grannies that only use your services so they have someone to talk to.

I guess if your willing to ignore all these issues and be a bit slap dash with your work, you could easily bang out a fair few houses.
Although isn't a certain someone often posting about complaints, problem customers etc etc.
Maybe there's a connection there.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: chris turner on December 03, 2016, 10:02:26 am
Volume of houses is irrelevant Mick, as I'm sure you're well aware. It's all about the 💷.

If you can't do at least 2 an hour there's something seriously wrong with the way you're working. Just a generalisation, not aimed at you.

Not often that I agree with sunshine but it really is about the dosh.
I much prefer the price high, do as little as possible business model.
If you have to bang out 25 houses a day to make a good living then your doing something wrong, will spend your whole business life stressed, dealing with complaints.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Richard Stevenson on December 03, 2016, 10:09:08 am
2 or 3 commercials. Keep things simple
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: dazmond on December 03, 2016, 10:17:45 am
Volume of houses is irrelevant Mick, as I'm sure you're well aware. It's all about the 💷.

If you can't do at least 2 an hour there's something seriously wrong with the way you're working. Just a generalisation, not aimed at you.

Not often that I agree with sunshine but it really is about the dosh.
I much prefer the price high, do as little as possible business model.
If you have to bang out 25 houses a day to make a good living then your doing something wrong, will spend your whole business life stressed, dealing with complaints.

on the days im cleaning 20-25 houses a day in 6 hours im certainly not stressed or dealing with complaints.what i like about work like this is i normally get a few brews,im not driving about wasting fuel,most are good tippers at xmas and i pick up plenty of extra add on work(f/s/g,conny roofs and solar panel cleaning),also quite a few pay me there and then so cash flow is good.reeling in is also kept to a minimum.

Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 03, 2016, 10:33:23 am
Me too.  ;) I can't run a 4 minute mile but I don't doubt Mo Farah can.

30 houses is a lot, but I've seen a guy with a backpack in Scotland do a front in around a minute.

Yes I remember that video too.
I'm fairly sure all of us could clean windows that quick if we were being filmed so we could big ourselves up on the mighty CIU.
I reckon i would probably have quality issues if i worked like that day in day out throughout the year.
As I remember it was early winter (maybe January) that was filmed, which in my years of window cleaning seem to be the time of year when windows stay fairly clean.
So I do take that demonstration with a pinch of salt.
We're not talking 30 houses an hour though. It's 30 houses in 8 hours.

Actually its between 30 and 35 and I'm sure its only a matter of time until somebody says they are doing 40, to be honest that
video impressed me but when my wife seen it she said she wouldn't have him about the place.
There's a guy in my area who does small terraced properties,two windows front and three at the back, he uses traditional methods and he would be hitting the 30 to 35 mark, he needs to because they tend to be occupied by people starting
out where money is tight, they don't tend to be the best priced.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 03, 2016, 11:03:12 am
I dont mean massive detached houses i mean run of the mill work as Daz would call it. Bought quite a bit of work lately thats nice and compact that isnt my famous front only runs and i struggle to do 15 somedays without it getting dark from starting at 9 on domestics  My plan was to be hitting 20/25 everyday and really smash it but it just doesnt happen, lose so much time with chatty customers and gaining access waiting about! How does that compare with others?
When i do fronts i hit 30/35 with ease without having chin wags as i get through them so fast, just a shame i havnt enough for a full month anymore from selling so much off. Will get there again soon enough when i get my arse into canvass Mick mode.

Is there such a thing as "run of the mill work" as people have different ideas what that actually means?
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 03, 2016, 11:23:17 am
I don't count jobs but rather the value. In general I know what total I want each person to do and the number of jobs varies. Generally 15-20 I guess. I did my first "full day" last week for some time as someone was off Ill and I started at 11 and finished at 3:50pm with 1/2 hour lunch. I did 17 jobs.

I don't know how someone manages 30 or more. They must be tough and incredibly quick.

So given half hr break n being realistic. In four hrs you cleaned 17 houses. Now unless im thick, if that was on a compact round, in another 4hrs you could quite easily do another 17 houses unless your an ild codger whos strength would have been drained. So that shows by your own words easily 34 houses. But lets say strength does waver, perhaps it would be 30 houses.

So come on you chaps, stop saying its impossible or unbelievable or quality would suffer. It is doable and quality doesnt have to suffer and no i dont work everyday because i get my work done by wed. Five days work for you guys done in 3 days. I'll think ill stick to my methods than listen to all the rubbish on here as to whats acceptable and do able because of your own limitations
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 03, 2016, 11:43:52 am
Splash n Dash springs to mind  ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 03, 2016, 11:54:08 am
Splash n Dash springs to mind  ;D
And there are guys who think they need to undercut him to take his work, widow cleaning is a strange business. lol.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 03, 2016, 12:46:19 pm
I usually work 8 15 til 3, in that time I will do about 35 modern 3 bedders,  obviously I don't have this type of work everyday and when I do rural work or bigger properties then the volume of houses cleaned is less, likewise I do a lot of council 1 bed flats of which I can knock out 12 an hour, I don't  really care if others think I am a bit splash n dash, the most important thing is that my customers are happy with the quality of my work , the service I provide and the value for money they get. 
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 03, 2016, 01:56:33 pm
So for agument sake lets just assume a one man band using wfp method could quite easaly bash out 35 x 3 bedders a day at say 25 squid a pop in under 7 hours. That would be quite something don't you think... Not quite 1000 squid a day but getting close. lol 

Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 03, 2016, 02:19:21 pm
So for agument sake lets just assume a one man band using wfp method could quite easaly bash out 35 x 3 bedders a day at say 25 squid a pop in under 7 hours. That would be quite something don't you think... Not quite 1000 squid a day but getting close. lol

Think your assumptions are wrong!
Especially with the price, more like between £10-£12 up north! still not bad though
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 03, 2016, 02:24:56 pm
What would you charge for an 8 weekly clean  then?
Or would that slow you down too much?
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 03, 2016, 02:35:37 pm
So for agument sake lets just assume a one man band using wfp method could quite easaly bash out 35 x 3 bedders a day at say 25 squid a pop in under 7 hours. That would be quite something don't you think... Not quite 1000 squid a day but getting close. lol

Exactly, but even at a tenner your talking £1750 for a five day week, if you only worked 30 weeks per year its £52.5k
not bad eh. lol.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 03, 2016, 02:48:21 pm
So for agument sake lets just assume a one man band using wfp method could quite easaly bash out 35 x 3 bedders a day at say 25 squid a pop in under 7 hours. That would be quite something don't you think... Not quite 1000 squid a day but getting close. lol

Exactly, but even at a tenner your talking £1750 for a five day week, if you only worked 30 weeks per year its £52.5k
not bad eh. lol.

You would defo need those other 22 weeks off as if like me would be fooked I'm thinking.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 03, 2016, 02:49:01 pm
Splash n Dash springs to mind  ;D
And there are guys who think they need to undercut him to take his work, widow cleaning is a strange business. lol.

Begining to understand the likes of lee and his opinion of ones one here. Just because they cant do certain things which other can, they resort to not believing and trying to belittle. So if i get 30 or more houses done in a day it must be splash n dash. Not because i have a compact round or they are cleaned every 4 wks, but it must be splash n dash.

Nope, not lost any customers to low ballers. My other post was about how others charge silly low prices just to get work. So......ive kept my rounds for x amount of yrs cause i do rubbish work....get real chaps.

Looks like i should charge a packet and train some of you guys up so you can attempt to understand how others work and succeed. Some may have been wfp for longer but i begin to see now, that that doesnt mean youve been doing it better.  :o
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 03, 2016, 03:25:35 pm
So for agument sake lets just assume a one man band using wfp method could quite easaly bash out 35 x 3 bedders a day at say 25 squid a pop in under 7 hours. That would be quite something don't you think... Not quite 1000 squid a day but getting close. lol
I am more like £7-8 a pop for a typical small modern 3 bedder without conservatory lol, hence why I said the customer gets value for money. That's just the market I live in.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Og on December 03, 2016, 03:44:23 pm
Average job takes 45mins
Average price £25
I is in da stiks.
And I don't rush.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 03, 2016, 03:58:49 pm
So for agument sake lets just assume a one man band using wfp method could quite easaly bash out 35 x 3 bedders a day at say 25 squid a pop in under 7 hours. That would be quite something don't you think... Not quite 1000 squid a day but getting close. lol

Exactly, but even at a tenner your talking £1750 for a five day week, if you only worked 30 weeks per year its £52.5k
not bad eh. lol.
I don't work 5 days a week Sean, part of the reason I work hard is to get more time off.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: 8weekly on December 03, 2016, 04:09:35 pm
Average job takes 45mins
Average price £25
I is in da stiks.
And I don't rush.
45 minutes seems a long time for an average job. You either "swing the lead" to justify what you think are high prices or your houses are typically very, very large. I reckon we'd do a modern 5 bed detached in under 30 minutes. I would guess our average job is 15 minutes or so.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on December 03, 2016, 04:33:03 pm
Splash n Dash springs to mind  ;D
And there are guys who think they need to undercut him to take his work, widow cleaning is a strange business. lol.

Begining to understand the likes of lee and his opinion of ones one here. Just because they cant do certain things which other can, they resort to not believing and trying to belittle. So if i get 30 or more houses done in a day it must be splash n dash. Not because i have a compact round or they are cleaned every 4 wks, but it must be splash n dash.

Nope, not lost any customers to low ballers. My other post was about how others charge silly low prices just to get work. So......ive kept my rounds for x amount of yrs cause i do rubbish work....get real chaps.

Looks like i should charge a packet and train some of you guys up so you can attempt to understand how others work and succeed. Some may have been wfp for longer but i begin to see now, that that doesnt mean youve been doing it better.  :o

Ahhh you're starting to see the light. Your posts are really good but I knew they couldn't last lol
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Frankybadboy on December 03, 2016, 04:42:25 pm
couple parts of my round i can do up to 26/27 house in summer months but in must time on them parts its  noramlly 20/22

but average day is 1-20 houses
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: andyM on December 03, 2016, 04:52:41 pm
Comrades,
I have found the YouTube video of fast eddie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vXV1zhmVao

I can't critique his technique actually.
Only to say I would do another rinse on the glass than he does, clean the front door and wipe downstairs sills with a cloth.

Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 03, 2016, 04:53:35 pm
So for agument sake lets just assume a one man band using wfp method could quite easaly bash out 35 x 3 bedders a day at say 25 squid a pop in under 7 hours. That would be quite something don't you think... Not quite 1000 squid a day but getting close. lol

Exactly, but even at a tenner your talking £1750 for a five day week, if you only worked 30 weeks per year its £52.5k
not bad eh. lol.
I don't work 5 days a week Sean, part of the reason I work hard is to get more time off.

That's why I said 30 weeks as it gives you 22  weeks or 110 working days off in whatever way suits.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Dave Willis on December 03, 2016, 05:38:02 pm
Comrades,
I have found the YouTube video of fast eddie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vXV1zhmVao

I can't critique his technique actually.
Only to say I would do another rinse on the glass than he does, clean the front door and wipe downstairs sills with a cloth.

Not actually that fast really. Every three houses or so he's got to stop, hump out a barrel and refill his backpack. Sod that I'd need arms like legs (actually I've got arms like legs) and a new back.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 03, 2016, 06:41:15 pm
So for agument sake lets just assume a one man band using wfp method could quite easaly bash out 35 x 3 bedders a day at say 25 squid a pop in under 7 hours. That would be quite something don't you think... Not quite 1000 squid a day but getting close. lol

Exactly, but even at a tenner your talking £1750 for a five day week, if you only worked 30 weeks per year its £52.5k
not bad eh. lol.
I don't work 5 days a week Sean, part of the reason I work hard is to get more time off.

That's why I said 30 weeks as it gives you 22  weeks or 110 working days off in whatever way suits.
Still a bit different saying £1750 for a five day week when I don't work five days. Do you know of anyone who works a five day week for 30 weeks then has 22 weeks off? Does the lol at the end of your post infer that you don't believe how many houses I clean?
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: ObiwanK on December 03, 2016, 06:53:44 pm
It isnt really about what can be earnt though as id prob smash the lot of you out the water with daily amounts on compact work  ;D ;D but i never go there, would like to know how many average houses over a 6 hour day others manage to do as i feel i could do more if i pulled my finger out a little more.  From this i cant see why im not hitting over 20 a day so when in Jan for the 2nd clean when they come up again im gonna really go for it and try smash 20/25 out. Thats the aim anyway, if not then no big deal, just means my plans will slighlty change and will have to do a bit more.

Increase your turnover by 25% by wiorking 8-3.30.  7.5 hours instead of six. 

For more, just clean windows, dont answer the phone, ever. Just clean windows, eat on the go. Do your own windows quickly and see how they dry. Youll see how fast you can be like that. Dont answer the phone. Write slips out the evening before. Park so your hose pull is straight. Dont asnswer the phone. Chat for a minute and say 'better start!'. Just clean windows.  Don't answer the fuggin phone.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: 8weekly on December 03, 2016, 06:58:42 pm
It isnt really about what can be earnt though as id prob smash the lot of you out the water with daily amounts on compact work  ;D ;D but i never go there, would like to know how many average houses over a 6 hour day others manage to do as i feel i could do more if i pulled my finger out a little more.  From this i cant see why im not hitting over 20 a day so when in Jan for the 2nd clean when they come up again im gonna really go for it and try smash 20/25 out. Thats the aim anyway, if not then no big deal, just means my plans will slighlty change and will have to do a bit more.

Increase your turnover by 25% by wiorking 8-3.30.  7.5 hours instead of six. 

For more, just clean windows, dont answer the phone, ever. Just clean windows, eat on the go. Do your own windows quickly and see how they dry. Youll see how fast you can be like that. Dont answer the phone. Write slips out the evening before. Park so your hose pull is straight. Dont asnswer the phone. Chat for a minute and say 'better start!'. Just clean windows.  Don't answer the fuggin phone.
I assume he's answering work enquiries?
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: capn sparkle on December 03, 2016, 07:00:41 pm
Average job takes 45mins
Average price £25
I is in da stiks.
And I don't rush.

Similar but I is lazy n a bit anal about quality!
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 03, 2016, 07:41:30 pm
So for agument sake lets just assume a one man band using wfp method could quite easaly bash out 35 x 3 bedders a day at say 25 squid a pop in under 7 hours. That would be quite something don't you think... Not quite 1000 squid a day but getting close. lol

Exactly, but even at a tenner your talking £1750 for a five day week, if you only worked 30 weeks per year its £52.5k
not bad eh. lol.
I don't work 5 days a week Sean, part of the reason I work hard is to get more time off.

That's why I said 30 weeks as it gives you 22  weeks or 110 working days off in whatever way suits.
Still a bit different saying £1750 for a five day week when I don't work five days. Do you know of anyone who works a five day week for 30 weeks then has 22 weeks off? Does the lol at the end of your post infer that you don't believe how many houses I clean?

No I'm just pointing out the amount of cash that can be earned for x amount of hours, spread it out over 52 weeks if you want.
the lol is because you didn't understand that.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Og on December 03, 2016, 08:06:07 pm
Average job takes 45mins
Average price £25
I is in da stiks.
And I don't rush.
45 minutes seems a long time for an average job. You either "swing the lead" to justify what you think are high prices or your houses are typically very, very large. I reckon we'd do a modern 5 bed detached in under 30 minutes. I would guess our average job is 15 minutes or so.

If it was all upvc and sheets nicely then yes. My works a mush mash of all sorts, lots of bespoke glazing and in villages. Old chapels, barn conversions and stuff. If it was all new build upvc then life would easier but hey. Nice views and the coffee is of good quality.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 03, 2016, 08:20:16 pm
Average job takes 45mins
Average price £25
I is in da stiks.
And I don't rush.

If it was all upvc and sheets nicely then yes. My works a mush mash of all sorts, lots of bespoke glazing and in villages. Old chapels, barn conversions and stuff. If it was all new build upvc then life would easier but hey. Nice views and the coffee is of good quality.

The vast majority of mine, have the waterfall effect its great.
However i do have to choose who i get my hot drinks from. Not many make a good brew or a very nice coffee (i am a coffee snob). However in winter i say yes to most as i use it just to warm hands around cup haha
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 03, 2016, 08:34:51 pm
35 houses a day + brews from all your customers wow 😳
No toilet breaks with all that coffee?
You must be out from the crack of dawn til sunset, all with 500 Ltrs water as well?
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 03, 2016, 09:01:32 pm
35 houses a day + brews from all your customers wow 😳
No toilet breaks with all that coffee?
You must be out from the crack of dawn til sunset, all with 500 Ltrs water as well?

It helps with a catheter fitted  ;D ;D
For work purposes. Lol its all about being efficient
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 03, 2016, 09:18:23 pm
I do have one old dear, who insists on putting a splash of whiskey in the cuppa for some reason at winter. Lol i keep telling her i dont use ladders anymore, just give me the whiskey minus the tea  ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 03, 2016, 09:32:54 pm
How many hours a day are you out the house working Nathan?
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Jonny 87 on December 03, 2016, 09:41:25 pm
I really don't understand how some of you guys think 25 plus standard houses a day is crazy and the quality must be somehow sub standard?

I've posted this video before but here it is again;

https://youtu.be/8GrTUs7JwfQ

I need to do an update as actually I've sped up quite a bit now with univalves and higher flow rates, but even at this comfortable pace the whole house (4 bedroom detached WITH a conservatory is cleaned in About 12 minutes which would include packing away the kit and driving away.

So 30 standard houses like a 3 bed semi is a very achievable day for me.

I'm happy for anyone to critique the technique but I'm confident no corners are cut and quality is very high ( not perfect perhaps but who looks for perfection) and before anyone says I didn't rinse the window above the conny it is a frosted window and I never rinse those off the glass, the odd spot isn't noticeable from inside.

I have days like these full of compact houses and I can hit 25 a day.

Other days I may only do 10-15 of much larger properties, but as the above post is about standard houses, id expect 10-15 houses to be a mornings work.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 03, 2016, 09:53:43 pm
I wouldn't call a new build a standard house tbh , houses in my area are older , bay windows, large windows, trees in gardens dropping crap and debris on the windows.  That's standard houses for me , Like I said if I was cleaning new builds , I could whack a fair few out too.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Jonny 87 on December 03, 2016, 10:05:39 pm
I wouldn't call a new build a standard house tbh , houses in my area are older , bay windows, large windows, trees in gardens dropping crap and debris on the windows.  That's standard houses for me , Like I said if I was cleaning new builds , I could whack a fair few out too.

True, I don't class that as a standard house either. Standard for me is three bed semi with 4 or 5 windows round the back and same st the front.

To be honest even on my harder properties nearer trees etc my speed isn't slowed down much. When properties get cleaned 4 weekly there is very little dirt on the glass.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 03, 2016, 10:08:41 pm
How many hours a day are you out the house working Nathan?

Im sure ive mentioned on another post somewhere, but on a whole i try to knock of about half four in summer mnths so come winter im not loosing much work on early dark nites.
My kid goes into class about 8.50, ive walked back to van and maybe set off at 9.

Tho some nornings i go get a good all u can eat breaky with coffee to fill up on and that way when im working i dont stop for no lunch. If i have breaky im driving to first job at around half 9. If im breaking for lunch later im heading to first house in van at 9.

Yep, i eat fast, always have.  I enjoy my meals in evening but when working i just see it as fuel n basic food so down the hatch it goes.

When i work out where to stick my phone, ill do a vid of me cleaning a house
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 03, 2016, 10:11:34 pm
So for agument sake lets just assume a one man band using wfp method could quite easaly bash out 35 x 3 bedders a day at say 25 squid a pop in under 7 hours. That would be quite something don't you think... Not quite 1000 squid a day but getting close. lol

Exactly, but even at a tenner your talking £1750 for a five day week, if you only worked 30 weeks per year its £52.5k
not bad eh. lol.
I don't work 5 days a week Sean, part of the reason I work hard is to get more time off.

That's why I said 30 weeks as it gives you 22  weeks or 110 working days off in whatever way suits.
Still a bit different saying £1750 for a five day week when I don't work five days. Do you know of anyone who works a five day week for 30 weeks then has 22 weeks off? Does the lol at the end of your post infer that you don't believe how many houses I clean?

No I'm just pointing out the amount of cash that can be earned for x amount of hours, spread it out over 52 weeks if you want.
the lol is because you didn't understand that.
You are wrong, you put the lol before I even responded to you, so at that point you would have been unaware if I understand simple maths or not ....lol
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 03, 2016, 10:13:53 pm
I don't count jobs but rather the value. In general I know what total I want each person to do and the number of jobs varies. Generally 15-20 I guess. I did my first "full day" last week for some time as someone was off Ill and I started at 11 and finished at 3:50pm with 1/2 hour lunch. I did 17 jobs.

I don't know how someone manages 30 or more. They must be tough and incredibly quick.

So given half hr break n being realistic. In four hrs you cleaned 17 houses. Now unless im thick, if that was on a compact round, in another 4hrs you could quite easily do another 17 houses unless your an ild codger whos strength would have been drained. So that shows by your own words easily 34 houses. But lets say strength does waver, perhaps it would be 30 houses.

So come on you chaps, stop saying its impossible or unbelievable or quality would suffer. It is doable and quality doesnt have to suffer and no i dont work everyday because i get my work done by wed. Five days work for you guys done in 3 days. I'll think ill stick to my methods than listen to all the rubbish on here as to whats acceptable and do able because of your own limitations

So at what point does fatigue kick in?
So...if you can go and run round the park and do 5 miles in an hour , does that mean you can do 5 miles an hour for 8 hours continuously?
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 03, 2016, 10:18:27 pm
How many hours a day are you out the house working Nathan?

Im sure ive mentioned on another post somewhere, but on a whole i try to knock of about half four in summer mnths so come winter im not loosing much work on early dark nites.
My kid goes into class about 8.50, ive walked back to van and maybe set off at 9.

Tho some nornings i go get a good all u can eat breaky with coffee to fill up on and that way when im working i dont stop for no lunch. If i have breaky im driving to first job at around half 9. If im breaking for lunch later im heading to first house in van at 9.

Yep, i eat fast, always have.  I enjoy my meals in evening but when working i just see it as fuel n basic food so down the hatch it goes.

When i work out where to stick my phone, ill do a vid of me cleaning a house

I'm amazed , I really am , 5 houses an hour for 7 hours.
No lunch break , no toilet breaks,  no stopping to refill your tank . I really would like to see that as I bang three out an hour and need to refill at dinner time
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 03, 2016, 10:31:21 pm
Im only in late 30's n been doing this for long enough that im used to it. Infact its easier with wiggling a stick around than going up n down ladders, ducking under washing lines etc etc.
When i first switched to wfp it took ne double time if not longer.  But when you work out where to park, which windows to clean first  (due to drips as u kno) and practice with different water flows n how many jets. You soon learn the best routine per house.
Lol wee breaks in bk of van in a special pee bottle for the occasion (hence black out windows). Plus im a healthy fit man, and due to how i work i usually get thur -sun off.
But i will post a vid, lol might drag my mrs out to film me clean a couple of houses together
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 03, 2016, 10:43:53 pm
I'm early 30's! 😳
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 03, 2016, 11:04:23 pm
So for agument sake lets just assume a one man band using wfp method could quite easaly bash out 35 x 3 bedders a day at say 25 squid a pop in under 7 hours. That would be quite something don't you think... Not quite 1000 squid a day but getting close. lol

Exactly, but even at a tenner your talking £1750 for a five day week, if you only worked 30 weeks per year its £52.5k
not bad eh. lol.
I don't work 5 days a week Sean, part of the reason I work hard is to get more time off.

That's why I said 30 weeks as it gives you 22  weeks or 110 working days off in whatever way suits.
Still a bit different saying £1750 for a five day week when I don't work five days. Do you know of anyone who works a five day week for 30 weeks then has 22 weeks off? Does the lol at the end of your post infer that you don't believe how many houses I clean?

No I'm just pointing out the amount of cash that can be earned for x amount of hours, spread it out over 52 weeks if you want.
the lol is because you didn't understand that.
You are wrong, you put the lol before I even responded to you, so at that point you would have been unaware if I understand simple maths or not ....lol

If your talking about my reply to Smurf the lol is about how easy it is to earn £52.5k a year with low pricing, its nothing to do with your post.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Stoots on December 04, 2016, 07:58:39 am
Those new builds with simple windows are obv lot quicker.

When you're doing a mix of terraced,  bay windows etc it slows you down.

Then you've got awkward side windows down a narrow area full of crap, slippy decks, trees, ornaments.

Plus mist of my windows never seem so easy there's always bird crap, sap or something that you have to take more time on.

I believe you can do 20 plus a day but it's going to be slap dash, now I've always thought the more work I get the quicker I can go with a drop in quality.

If you can do a less than perfect job and get away with it because no one says owt then your on to a winner.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 04, 2016, 08:06:17 am
I do the same as Chris turner , I'm not interested in getting hundreds and hundreds of jobs , I prefer less work but higher priced . It's great looking at the job sheet for the day knowing Iv got between 10-20 jobs to do
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 04, 2016, 10:01:28 am
Men cant go to the moon!
What no horse and ride with an engine!!
Men cant fly its impossible!!
What do u mean the earth isnt flat, your insane!!!
Cant clean more than 25 houses without it being splash n dash!!!

https://youtu.be/jtLlnC4UaLk
All the people who would have held advancement back just because there the ones who couldnt believe or do it!!
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 04, 2016, 10:17:11 am
Men cant go to the moon!
What no horse and ride with an engine!!
Men cant fly its impossible!!
What do u mean the earth isnt flat, your insane!!!
Cant clean more than 25 houses without it being splash n dash!!!

https://youtu.be/jtLlnC4UaLk
All the people who would have held advancement back just because there the ones who couldnt believe or do it!!

Can't really compare people stirring rice and chopping vegetables fast to water fed poling
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 04, 2016, 10:28:51 am
Point being, unless you try and do, people will always say it cant be done.
Like in vid, bet some on here would take their time and serve saying they cant go any faster without spoiling the "what ever"
Yet it can and its being done.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 04, 2016, 10:40:06 am
That video isn't a very good example , it's like me putting this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlx-YtXRrmk

Because he can do that in 3 seconds, that ultimately means I can wfp 6 houses an hour
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: chris turner on December 04, 2016, 11:08:05 am
Men cant go to the moon!
What no horse and ride with an engine!!
Men cant fly its impossible!!
What do u mean the earth isnt flat, your insane!!!
Cant clean more than 25 houses without it being splash n dash!!!

https://youtu.be/jtLlnC4UaLk
All the people who would have held advancement back just because there the ones who couldnt believe or do it!!

Sorry nath, you genuinely seem like a nice guy so I don't like to disrespect you, but having to bash out 25 houses a day on your own isn't advancement.
For me that would be a step back.
Maybe it can be done but it shouldn't have to be, after all didn't you become your own boss to have an easier work life?
Honestly the thought of looking at my worksheet for the week and seeing 150 houses to get through on my own fills me with despair.

You can't possibly tell me you wouldn't want to have less then half that amount of work to get through but still be earning the same, or even more?

My rounds are by no means perfect. There a mix n match of good stuff and what I would class as ok work. Even then I hate the 12 house days when compared to the 2 job days. Advancement to me is every day being a 2 or 3 job day, or at least 2-3 days a week of 2 job days.

I was doing 12-15 houses everyday about 15 months ago, a £3/£4 price rise then switching nearly all residential to 8 weekly sorted that out.
Basically I carried on earning the same money but with less work to do.
You need to refine your work every year, cut the crap and identity areas where the prices need to go up or you need bigger and better jobs.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Dave Willis on December 04, 2016, 11:09:49 am
I can run a four minute mile wearing a full backpack, carrying an Xtreme pole.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 04, 2016, 11:21:23 am
You see this in all professions, guys who can work quick because they're skilled at using their tools and can achieve
excellent results, they just have a natural ability.
You have the guys who will achieve just as good a result but it just doesn't come as easy to them as it does for the first group
so tend to be slower.
Then you have the guys that just go quick for the sake of being quick and really don't have a clue what they're doing.
All three can be successful.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 04, 2016, 11:29:01 am
I can run a four minute mile wearing a full backpack, carrying an Xtreme pole.

That's nothing I can do that carrying a Brodex 30ft  Alloy complete with a Vikan sill brush.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: andyM on December 04, 2016, 11:34:28 am
I can run a four minute mile wearing a full backpack, carrying an Xtreme pole.

I'm doing it in 3:59 with full backpack, extreme pole and a packet of custard creams. 
You must be doing something wrong.  ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 04, 2016, 11:40:20 am
Men cant go to the moon!
What no horse and ride with an engine!!
Men cant fly its impossible!!
What do u mean the earth isnt flat, your insane!!!
Cant clean more than 25 houses without it being splash n dash!!!

https://youtu.be/jtLlnC4UaLk
All the people who would have held advancement back just because there the ones who couldnt believe or do it!!

Sorry nath, you genuinely seem like a nice guy so I don't like to disrespect you, but having to bash out 25 houses a day on your own isn't advancement.
For me that would be a step back.
Maybe it can be done but it shouldn't have to be, after all didn't you become your own boss to have an easier work life?
Honestly the thought of looking at my worksheet for the week and seeing 150 houses to get through on my own fills me with despair.

You can't possibly tell me you wouldn't want to have less then half that amount of work to get through but still be earning the same, or even more?

My rounds are by no means perfect. There a mix n match of good stuff and what I would class as ok work. Even then I hate the 12 house days when compared to the 2 job days. Advancement to me is every day being a 2 or 3 job day, or at least 2-3 days a week of 2 job days.

I was doing 12-15 houses everyday about 15 months ago, a £3/£4 price rise then switching nearly all residential to 8 weekly sorted that out.
Basically I carried on earning the same money but with less work to do.
You need to refine your work every year, cut the crap and identity areas where the prices need to go up or you need bigger and better jobs.

I absolutely agree, thats why i said in an earlier post, my work for the week is finished by roughly half four on a wednesday, giving me thurs to sunday off. Its brilliant being your own boss and refining your work and improving ability.

Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 04, 2016, 12:15:33 pm
Men cant go to the moon!
What no horse and ride with an engine!!
Men cant fly its impossible!!
What do u mean the earth isnt flat, your insane!!!
Cant clean more than 25 houses without it being splash n dash!!!

https://youtu.be/jtLlnC4UaLk
All the people who would have held advancement back just because there the ones who couldnt believe or do it!!

Sorry nath, you genuinely seem like a nice guy so I don't like to disrespect you, but having to bash out 25 houses a day on your own isn't advancement.
For me that would be a step back.
Maybe it can be done but it shouldn't have to be, after all didn't you become your own boss to have an easier work life?
Honestly the thought of looking at my worksheet for the week and seeing 150 houses to get through on my own fills me with despair.

You can't possibly tell me you wouldn't want to have less then half that amount of work to get through but still be earning the same, or even more?

My rounds are by no means perfect. There a mix n match of good stuff and what I would class as ok work. Even then I hate the 12 house days when compared to the 2 job days. Advancement to me is every day being a 2 or 3 job day, or at least 2-3 days a week of 2 job days.

I was doing 12-15 houses everyday about 15 months ago, a £3/£4 price rise then switching nearly all residential to 8 weekly sorted that out.
Basically I carried on earning the same money but with less work to do.
You need to refine your work every year, cut the crap and identity areas where the prices need to go up or you need bigger and better jobs.

I absolutely agree, thats why i said in an earlier post, my work for the week is finished by roughly half four on a wednesday, giving me thurs to sunday off. Its brilliant being your own boss and refining your work and improving ability.

See your down to 25 or more properties Nathan, (wink) getting closer to reality eh. lol.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Dave Willis on December 04, 2016, 12:51:45 pm
I can run a four minute mile wearing a full backpack, carrying an Xtreme pole.

I'm doing it in 3:59 with full backpack, extreme pole and a packet of custard creams. 
You must be doing something wrong.  ;D

and I can do the hurdles!
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 04, 2016, 12:55:50 pm
I picked 25 n over as it was in relation to adam thomsons posts in relation to cleaning over 20 houses being splash n dash.

Lol i think im being way too defensive over my own ability. Personally i dont find it a problem to clean 30 houses a day on wfp on my rounds. To me im not dashing or racing thru the day. But my work is 4wkly and so im cleaning virtually already clean glass. I have a compact round so from one spot i can clean virtually 2 houses upstairs from one garden. So when i get onto the 2nd house ive already mostly cleaned the upstairs so not waiting on drip time and i virtually only have the down stairs to do.
In addition the frames are immaculate because of frequency of cleans, so i dont always have to clean top of frames unlike u chaps who clean 8wkly or longer. I dont have many houses  tree sap on them either. Houses that normally have dog poop all over garden i gave them the choice. I either txt day b4 i come so they can open gates n clear mess or they employ someone else. They all have me txt night before. I have cards designed on vista print to say windows cleaned etc etc, so im not writing invoices or notes, wasting my time.  I park in one spot and normally move van once or twice a day, so i know my best routes when working. For faffy gardens its easier to whip the trolley out which actually saves time.
My customers who make hot drinks are well trained, they normally make it whilst im working and then i have 5 mins or so to sup drink n have a chin wag with them, which builds customer loyalty etc.
I eat big in morning b4 starting so im full all day. I love finishing end of wednesday so im organised to ensure i keep to this routine. B4 i went on wfp, i only ever got wknds off. First time in 14/15 yrs that im now getting 4 days off a wk. I call that advancement and job satisfaction now.

But that came from like i said pryor, experimenting with number of jets, water flow and type of brush i use and perfecting my technique. I took a steep learning curve when i first switched over. Perhaps thats why im defensive about my ability n being told i must be splash n dash n have quality issues  ::)roll
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 04, 2016, 12:57:30 pm
Thumbs hurt now, so gonna have a rest from this thread.  ;D ;D

Also i m8ght post a disclaimer to get a coffee b4 reading my posts haha  ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 04, 2016, 01:06:09 pm
Not to worry Nathan your bound to be defensive especially if busting your hump, seriously mate I don't see the
point in killing yourself just to get finished earlier in the week, but each to their own.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: ObiwanK on December 04, 2016, 01:52:22 pm
I picked 25 n over as it was in relation to adam thomsons posts in relation to cleaning over 20 houses being splash n dash.

Lol i think im being way too defensive over my own ability. Personally i dont find it a problem to clean 30 houses a day on wfp on my rounds. To me im not dashing or racing thru the day. But my work is 4wkly and so im cleaning virtually already clean glass. I have a compact round so from one spot i can clean virtually 2 houses upstairs from one garden. So when i get onto the 2nd house ive already mostly cleaned the upstairs so not waiting on drip time and i virtually only have the down stairs to do.
In addition the frames are immaculate because of frequency of cleans, so i dont always have to clean top of frames unlike u chaps who clean 8wkly or longer. I dont have many houses  tree sap on them either. Houses that normally have dog poop all over garden i gave them the choice. I either txt day b4 i come so they can open gates n clear mess or they employ someone else. They all have me txt night before. I have cards designed on vista print to say windows cleaned etc etc, so im not writing invoices or notes, wasting my time.  I park in one spot and normally move van once or twice a day, so i know my best routes when working. For faffy gardens its easier to whip the trolley out which actually saves time.
My customers who make hot drinks are well trained, they normally make it whilst im working and then i have 5 mins or so to sup drink n have a chin wag with them, which builds customer loyalty etc.
I eat big in morning b4 starting so im full all day. I love finishing end of wednesday so im organised to ensure i keep to this routine. B4 i went on wfp, i only ever got wknds off. First time in 14/15 yrs that im now getting 4 days off a wk. I call that advancement and job satisfaction now.

But that came from like i said pryor, experimenting with number of jets, water flow and type of brush i use and perfecting my technique. I took a steep learning curve when i first switched over. Perhaps thats why im defensive about my ability n being told i must be splash n dash n have quality issues  ::)roll

I dont knwo why you bother answering, there are idiots on here who just say everything is impossible. Who cares about them? They can work as slowly as they want. Stuff them if they dont believe you.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 04, 2016, 02:22:46 pm
I thought my tongue in cheek "Splash n Dash" comment would raise a few eyebrows  ;D
How about this one then "Try working smarter not harder as numbers don't mean jack really." 
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 04, 2016, 02:26:19 pm
I picked 25 n over as it was in relation to adam thomsons posts in relation to cleaning over 20 houses being splash n dash.

Lol i think im being way too defensive over my own ability. Personally i dont find it a problem to clean 30 houses a day on wfp on my rounds. To me im not dashing or racing thru the day. But my work is 4wkly and so im cleaning virtually already clean glass. I have a compact round so from one spot i can clean virtually 2 houses upstairs from one garden. So when i get onto the 2nd house ive already mostly cleaned the upstairs so not waiting on drip time and i virtually only have the down stairs to do.
In addition the frames are immaculate because of frequency of cleans, so i dont always have to clean top of frames unlike u chaps who clean 8wkly or longer. I dont have many houses  tree sap on them either. Houses that normally have dog poop all over garden i gave them the choice. I either txt day b4 i come so they can open gates n clear mess or they employ someone else. They all have me txt night before. I have cards designed on vista print to say windows cleaned etc etc, so im not writing invoices or notes, wasting my time.  I park in one spot and normally move van once or twice a day, so i know my best routes when working. For faffy gardens its easier to whip the trolley out which actually saves time.
My customers who make hot drinks are well trained, they normally make it whilst im working and then i have 5 mins or so to sup drink n have a chin wag with them, which builds customer loyalty etc.
I eat big in morning b4 starting so im full all day. I love finishing end of wednesday so im organised to ensure i keep to this routine. B4 i went on wfp, i only ever got wknds off. First time in 14/15 yrs that im now getting 4 days off a wk. I call that advancement and job satisfaction now.

But that came from like i said pryor, experimenting with number of jets, water flow and type of brush i use and perfecting my technique. I took a steep learning curve when i first switched over. Perhaps thats why im defensive about my ability n being told i must be splash n dash n have quality issues  ::)roll

I dont knwo why you bother answering, there are idiots on here who just say everything is impossible. Who cares about them? They can work as slowly as they want. Stuff them if they dont believe you.

What kind of nonsense/childish reply is that ? if a newbie came on here looking to know what its possible to acheve would you be
telling him/her 35 ?
It certainly wouldnt be the advice I would be giving them, take your time do the job right and price so that you dont have to
cut corners go flat out and risk quality just to make a living.
Its possible to many things in this job just because you can do something doesnt mean it the best way or right way. (roll eyes)
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 04, 2016, 02:38:53 pm
I dont mean massive detached houses i mean run of the mill work as Daz would call it. Bought quite a bit of work lately thats nice and compact that isnt my famous front only runs and i struggle to do 15 somedays without it getting dark from starting at 9 on domestics  My plan was to be hitting 20/25 everyday and really smash it but it just doesnt happen, lose so much time with chatty customers and gaining access waiting about! How does that compare with others?
When i do fronts i hit 30/35 with ease without having chin wags as i get through them so fast, just a shame i havnt enough for a full month anymore from selling so much off. Will get there again soon enough when i get my arse into canvass Mick mode.

This is the start of these post. Not a newbie, so no one is answering for a newbie.  To clean 30 houses quality doesnt have to suffer, if you think that, then obviously your doing something wrong. If you think you have to be working your ass off inorder to do 30 houses, your again dead wrong.
However as its already been stated, it all depends on your rounds and the houses you clean.
Obviously if a newbie was asking, peoples responses would be tailored to them.

Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 04, 2016, 03:07:02 pm
Anyhow why should we care what others can or can't do as it's none of anyone’s business surely?
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Jonny 87 on December 04, 2016, 03:55:31 pm
I dont mean massive detached houses i mean run of the mill work as Daz would call it. Bought quite a bit of work lately thats nice and compact that isnt my famous front only runs and i struggle to do 15 somedays without it getting dark from starting at 9 on domestics  My plan was to be hitting 20/25 everyday and really smash it but it just doesnt happen, lose so much time with chatty customers and gaining access waiting about! How does that compare with others?
When i do fronts i hit 30/35 with ease without having chin wags as i get through them so fast, just a shame i havnt enough for a full month anymore from selling so much off. Will get there again soon enough when i get my arse into canvass Mick mode.

This is the start of these post. Not a newbie, so no one is answering for a newbie.  To clean 30 houses quality doesnt have to suffer, if you think that, then obviously your doing something wrong. If you think you have to be working your ass off inorder to do 30 houses, your again dead wrong.
However as its already been stated, it all depends on your rounds and the houses you clean.
Obviously if a newbie was asking, peoples responses would be tailored to them.

I agree with that.

I think wfp has made some guys lazy or atleast unfit now, or mayb both?

Just because I can happily clean 25-30 properties in a day doesn't mean my quality is any lower than someone who cleans 15 houses but just "plods" along.

I could easily say to those guys "why don't you work more efficiently and have every afternoon off? Go fishing, see the family, play the bongos"

It's not  me working like a mad man, it's me working efficiently, and also keeping me fitter by working  at a brisk pace.

To be honest I can't think of anything worse than working like a turtle when I could have been home and finished 4 hours ago.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 04, 2016, 03:56:34 pm
I picked 25 n over as it was in relation to adam thomsons posts in relation to cleaning over 20 houses being splash n dash.

Lol i think im being way too defensive over my own ability. Personally i dont find it a problem to clean 30 houses a day on wfp on my rounds. To me im not dashing or racing thru the day. But my work is 4wkly and so im cleaning virtually already clean glass. I have a compact round so from one spot i can clean virtually 2 houses upstairs from one garden. So when i get onto the 2nd house ive already mostly cleaned the upstairs so not waiting on drip time and i virtually only have the down stairs to do.
In addition the frames are immaculate because of frequency of cleans, so i dont always have to clean top of frames unlike u chaps who clean 8wkly or longer. I dont have many houses  tree sap on them either. Houses that normally have dog poop all over garden i gave them the choice. I either txt day b4 i come so they can open gates n clear mess or they employ someone else. They all have me txt night before. I have cards designed on vista print to say windows cleaned etc etc, so im not writing invoices or notes, wasting my time.  I park in one spot and normally move van once or twice a day, so i know my best routes when working. For faffy gardens its easier to whip the trolley out which actually saves time.
My customers who make hot drinks are well trained, they normally make it whilst im working and then i have 5 mins or so to sup drink n have a chin wag with them, which builds customer loyalty etc.
I eat big in morning b4 starting so im full all day. I love finishing end of wednesday so im organised to ensure i keep to this routine. B4 i went on wfp, i only ever got wknds off. First time in 14/15 yrs that im now getting 4 days off a wk. I call that advancement and job satisfaction now.

But that came from like i said pryor, experimenting with number of jets, water flow and type of brush i use and perfecting my technique. I took a steep learning curve when i first switched over. Perhaps thats why im defensive about my ability n being told i must be splash n dash n have quality issues  ::)roll

I dont knwo why you bother answering, there are idiots on here who just say everything is impossible. Who cares about them? They can work as slowly as they want. Stuff them if they dont believe you.

Another figure of speech would be 'Who asked you to put your neb in?' But Id never use that.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 04, 2016, 04:00:02 pm
I dont mean massive detached houses i mean run of the mill work as Daz would call it. Bought quite a bit of work lately thats nice and compact that isnt my famous front only runs and i struggle to do 15 somedays without it getting dark from starting at 9 on domestics  My plan was to be hitting 20/25 everyday and really smash it but it just doesnt happen, lose so much time with chatty customers and gaining access waiting about! How does that compare with others?
When i do fronts i hit 30/35 with ease without having chin wags as i get through them so fast, just a shame i havnt enough for a full month anymore from selling so much off. Will get there again soon enough when i get my arse into canvass Mick mode.

This is the start of these post. Not a newbie, so no one is answering for a newbie.  To clean 30 houses quality doesnt have to suffer, if you think that, then obviously your doing something wrong. If you think you have to be working your ass off inorder to do 30 houses, your again dead wrong.
However as its already been stated, it all depends on your rounds and the houses you clean.
Obviously if a newbie was asking, peoples responses would be tailored to them.

I agree with that.

I think wfp has made some guys lazy or atleast unfit now, or mayb both?

Just because I can happily clean 25-30 properties in a day doesn't mean my quality is any lower than someone who cleans 15 houses but just "plods" along.

I could easily say to those guys "why don't you work more efficiently and have every afternoon off? Go fishing, see the family, play the bongos"

It's not  me working like a mad man, it's me working efficiently, and also keeping me fitter by working  at a brisk pace.

To be honest I can't think of anything worse than working like a turtle when I could have been home and finished 4 hours ago.

Yes , your right..... from now on I will also squash 3 days work in to one so I can have 2 days off .
But then my workload will slowly increase over time ... so then il have to fit 35 jobs in every single day ! 
I'm soo looking forward to that
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: dazmond on December 04, 2016, 04:34:10 pm
each to their own.

why any of you are bothered if another window cleaner works harder and longer each day is beyond me! ::)roll

20-25 full houses on run of the mill work is the limit for me working 6 hour days.i could work longer and clean more but ive had enough after 6 hours "on the glass" TBH. ;)
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: ObiwanK on December 04, 2016, 04:53:30 pm
I picked 25 n over as it was in relation to adam thomsons posts in relation to cleaning over 20 houses being splash n dash.

Lol i think im being way too defensive over my own ability. Personally i dont find it a problem to clean 30 houses a day on wfp on my rounds. To me im not dashing or racing thru the day. But my work is 4wkly and so im cleaning virtually already clean glass. I have a compact round so from one spot i can clean virtually 2 houses upstairs from one garden. So when i get onto the 2nd house ive already mostly cleaned the upstairs so not waiting on drip time and i virtually only have the down stairs to do.
In addition the frames are immaculate because of frequency of cleans, so i dont always have to clean top of frames unlike u chaps who clean 8wkly or longer. I dont have many houses  tree sap on them either. Houses that normally have dog poop all over garden i gave them the choice. I either txt day b4 i come so they can open gates n clear mess or they employ someone else. They all have me txt night before. I have cards designed on vista print to say windows cleaned etc etc, so im not writing invoices or notes, wasting my time.  I park in one spot and normally move van once or twice a day, so i know my best routes when working. For faffy gardens its easier to whip the trolley out which actually saves time.
My customers who make hot drinks are well trained, they normally make it whilst im working and then i have 5 mins or so to sup drink n have a chin wag with them, which builds customer loyalty etc.
I eat big in morning b4 starting so im full all day. I love finishing end of wednesday so im organised to ensure i keep to this routine. B4 i went on wfp, i only ever got wknds off. First time in 14/15 yrs that im now getting 4 days off a wk. I call that advancement and job satisfaction now.

But that came from like i said pryor, experimenting with number of jets, water flow and type of brush i use and perfecting my technique. I took a steep learning curve when i first switched over. Perhaps thats why im defensive about my ability n being told i must be splash n dash n have quality issues  ::)roll

I dont knwo why you bother answering, there are idiots on here who just say everything is impossible. Who cares about them? They can work as slowly as they want. Stuff them if they dont believe you.

What kind of nonsense/childish reply is that ? if a newbie came on here looking to know what its possible to acheve would you be
telling him/her 35 ?
It certainly wouldnt be the advice I would be giving them, take your time do the job right and price so that you dont have to
cut corners go flat out and risk quality just to make a living.
Its possible to many things in this job just because you can do something doesnt mean it the best way or right way. (roll eyes)

See, youre doing exactly what I said. 'you have to cut corners' 'risk quality'. Youre just saying its impossible. Like I said you would. Just because you cant do something or dont want to doesnt mean everyone is like you. But youre always the same. Everyone else is wrong.

And the question youve asked isnt the question the threads about. It wasnt a newbie asking, was it? OP has been doing this for years and was wondering why hes struggling to do 15.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 04, 2016, 05:00:07 pm
each to their own.

why any of you are bothered if another window cleaner works harder and longer each day is beyond me! ::)roll

20-25 full houses on run of the mill work is the limit for me working 6 hour days.i could work longer and clean more but ive had enough after 6 hours "on the glass" TBH. ;)

6 hours :o now that would do my sweed in working so slow  ::)roll
2 hour at the most then an afternoon nap works for me. They don't call me the splash n dash cowboy for nothing you know  ;D ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Mick Kent on December 04, 2016, 05:09:55 pm
I cant remember ever only doing 15 in a day before i did just fronts, i thought was closer to 30 but am getting nowhere near with this lot so maybe im wrong.
Only have 80 of them to do so next month gonna try do them in 4 days instead of 6 by starting earlier and not talking so much with them, main reason i did this time was first time meeting them but even still i was working whilst talking!
Maybe a pointless thread as deep down i know that more is easily possible, it is nice to see what the average daily window cleans are doable from other fellow shiners around the country.
I agree its what is earnt in the day more than how many houses but considering we all charge different the best way to compare is by the amount of average size semi's done over a day.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 04, 2016, 05:26:33 pm
Mick I would take what some say on here with a pinch of salt so to speak. 
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 04, 2016, 05:30:43 pm
I picked 25 n over as it was in relation to adam thomsons posts in relation to cleaning over 20 houses being splash n dash.

Lol i think im being way too defensive over my own ability. Personally i dont find it a problem to clean 30 houses a day on wfp on my rounds. To me im not dashing or racing thru the day. But my work is 4wkly and so im cleaning virtually already clean glass. I have a compact round so from one spot i can clean virtually 2 houses upstairs from one garden. So when i get onto the 2nd house ive already mostly cleaned the upstairs so not waiting on drip time and i virtually only have the down stairs to do.
In addition the frames are immaculate because of frequency of cleans, so i dont always have to clean top of frames unlike u chaps who clean 8wkly or longer. I dont have many houses  tree sap on them either. Houses that normally have dog poop all over garden i gave them the choice. I either txt day b4 i come so they can open gates n clear mess or they employ someone else. They all have me txt night before. I have cards designed on vista print to say windows cleaned etc etc, so im not writing invoices or notes, wasting my time.  I park in one spot and normally move van once or twice a day, so i know my best routes when working. For faffy gardens its easier to whip the trolley out which actually saves time.
My customers who make hot drinks are well trained, they normally make it whilst im working and then i have 5 mins or so to sup drink n have a chin wag with them, which builds customer loyalty etc.
I eat big in morning b4 starting so im full all day. I love finishing end of wednesday so im organised to ensure i keep to this routine. B4 i went on wfp, i only ever got wknds off. First time in 14/15 yrs that im now getting 4 days off a wk. I call that advancement and job satisfaction now.

But that came from like i said pryor, experimenting with number of jets, water flow and type of brush i use and perfecting my technique. I took a steep learning curve when i first switched over. Perhaps thats why im defensive about my ability n being told i must be splash n dash n have quality issues  ::)roll

I dont knwo why you bother answering, there are idiots on here who just say everything is impossible. Who cares about them? They can work as slowly as they want. Stuff them if they dont believe you.

What kind of nonsense/childish reply is that ? if a newbie came on here looking to know what its possible to acheve would you be
telling him/her 35 ?
It certainly wouldnt be the advice I would be giving them, take your time do the job right and price so that you dont have to
cut corners go flat out and risk quality just to make a living.
Its possible to many things in this job just because you can do something doesnt mean it the best way or right way. (roll eyes)

See, youre doing exactly what I said. 'you have to cut corners' 'risk quality'. Youre just saying its impossible. Like I said you would. Just because you cant do something or dont want to doesnt mean everyone is like you. But youre always the same. Everyone else is wrong.

And the question youve asked isnt the question the threads about. It wasnt a newbie asking, was it? OP has been doing this for years and was wondering why hes struggling to do 15.

Very good at least you have replied like an adult (sort of), in my opinion you cant knock those sort of numbers out without quality
suffering in your opinion we can, some will agree with you some will agree with me but there's no need for a hissy fit.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: supernova77 on December 04, 2016, 05:43:15 pm
Tomorrow I'll be cleaning 6 houses...

Simon in the other van has 10 to do...

But we'll both turn over roughly the same amount of ££.

As has been already said - the number of houses cleaned in a day is irrelevant.

:)
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 04, 2016, 05:45:19 pm
Tomorrow I'll be cleaning 6 houses...

Simon in the other van has 10 to do...

But we'll both turn over roughly the same amount of ££.

As has been already said - the number of houses cleaned in a day is irrelevant.

:)

Exactly my point  ;)
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Frankybadboy on December 04, 2016, 06:29:05 pm
I can run a four minute mile wearing a full backpack, carrying an Xtreme pole.
remember i seen you run!!!!! i think you mean forty minutes
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 04, 2016, 06:56:01 pm
Mick I would take what some say on here with a pinch of salt so to speak.
I agree, I mean there's just no way anyone can charge £25 for a 3 bedder  ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 04, 2016, 07:09:04 pm
I cleaned 44  modern detached mostly 3 and a few 4 bedroom houses on Wednesday between 8 and 2 45, don't get me wrong, this is the cream of my work and I can't achieve these numbers in other areas. I have been waiting by my phone waiting on the customer complaints coming in as according to some on here they can't possibly be cleaned properly...........Guess what, no complaints, just the usual online payments coming in with a few xmas tips thrown in for good measure, I'm happy, customers are happy, that's all.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Og on December 04, 2016, 07:37:08 pm
I don't do 44 in a week!
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 04, 2016, 07:51:08 pm
Mick I would take what some say on here with a pinch of salt so to speak.
I agree, I mean there's just no way anyone can charge £25 for a 3 bedder  ;D

No you are right as they would normally get a free window clean thrown in on a 500 and above exterior clean so saves themselves 25 squid at least ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: chris turner on December 04, 2016, 07:58:33 pm
Tomorrow I'll be cleaning 6 houses...

Simon in the other van has 10 to do...

But we'll both turn over roughly the same amount of ££.

As has been already said - the number of houses cleaned in a day is irrelevant.

:)

Your just down the road from me ;). In fact saw you or your other van parked at a garage not long ago along mill lane.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: supernova77 on December 04, 2016, 11:33:59 pm
Tomorrow I'll be cleaning 6 houses...

Simon in the other van has 10 to do...

But we'll both turn over roughly the same amount of ££.

As has been already said - the number of houses cleaned in a day is irrelevant.

:)

Your just down the road from me ;). In fact saw you or your other van parked at a garage not long ago along mill lane.


Hi Chris,

Are you stalking me? Lol

You're in Aldershot?    What's your company name?

:)
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: sunshine windows on December 05, 2016, 08:39:56 am
Another factor to consider is that council estate 3 beds are a lot different to 1930's bay windowed 3 bed houses.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Tom-01 on December 05, 2016, 10:27:52 am
Tomorrow I'll be cleaning 6 houses...

Simon in the other van has 10 to do...

But we'll both turn over roughly the same amount of ££.

As has been already said - the number of houses cleaned in a day is irrelevant.

:)

Exactly.

Today there's two of us cleaning 7 jobs. Friday we've got 22 - today earns more money by about £80. It's the money that's key. Like someone said earlier they do 2 or 3 commercials a day. Brilliant work. Great for cash flow too.

But just doing 6 is lazy IMO.   :-*
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: robbo333 on December 05, 2016, 05:49:02 pm
For me, a standard 3 bed semi, no connie, no bays, every 8 weeks about 20 mins, reasonable pace. Thats all frames and sills cleaned, scrub over the glass twice and a rinse, front door wiped so no drips, downstairs sills wiped over, I also wipe the underside of small openers on downstairs, probably a 2 min chat, writing out my invoice blah blah. So about 2. 5 - 3 per hour and as many hours as you fancy. These aren't my best earners, I would prefer Mick's front onlys any day, or nice small commercial or small flats etc.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: dazmond on December 05, 2016, 05:59:14 pm
For me, a standard 3 bed semi, no connie, no bays, every 8 weeks about 20 mins, reasonable pace. Thats all frames and sills cleaned, scrub over the glass twice and a rinse, front door wiped so no drips, downstairs sills wiped over, I also wipe the underside of small openers on downstairs, probably a 2 min chat, writing out my invoice blah blah. So about 2. 5 - 3 per hour and as many hours as you fancy. These aren't my best earners, I would prefer Mick's front onlys any day, or nice small commercial or small flats etc.

your wasting time(IMO) drying the doors and sills(and top openers) and writing out invoices/chits(mine are already printed/written out the night before).10-15 MINS FOR ME.sometimes that includes cleaning a conny too in the same time.these are mainly 4 weekly jobs though.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on December 05, 2016, 06:05:23 pm
For me, a standard 3 bed semi, no connie, no bays, every 8 weeks about 20 mins, reasonable pace. Thats all frames and sills cleaned, scrub over the glass twice and a rinse, front door wiped so no drips, downstairs sills wiped over, I also wipe the underside of small openers on downstairs, probably a 2 min chat, writing out my invoice blah blah. So about 2. 5 - 3 per hour and as many hours as you fancy. These aren't my best earners, I would prefer Mick's front onlys any day, or nice small commercial or small flats etc.

your wasting time(IMO) drying the doors and sills(and top openers) and writing out invoices/chits(mine are already printed/written out the night before).10-15 MINS FOR ME.sometimes that includes cleaning a conny too in the same time.these are mainly 4 weekly jobs though.

Come on, whose going to say 5-10 minutes?  ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: windowswashed on December 05, 2016, 06:19:08 pm
Matchbox houses are so tiny could blade them in 10mins or wfp them in 6mins including set up. Proper semi's 20-30, country houses up to 2-3 hrs depending how many extensions have been added on over the years. Don't wish to go like the clappers unless I have an appointment elsewhere or want the next day off then I might speed up if I think I'm getting behind for time. Happy plodding on at sensible pace with breaks occassionally. Some of my friends have had heart attacks early and  I'm not killing myself for the tax man, just want to pay my bills and put aside for rainy days. Life is aboiut the journey, not the destination as you can't take it with you so enjoy life whilst you can.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Jamie Thomas on December 05, 2016, 07:11:39 pm
Iv got a digital sureflow controller If any of you are using one and doing 20 or more houses a day can you tell me what number you have the flow on please.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 05, 2016, 07:13:49 pm
Iv got a digital sureflow controller If any of you are using one and doing 20 or more houses a day can you tell me what number you have the flow on please.

Full whack , not a speck of dust left on the windows. What flow do you have yours on?
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 05, 2016, 07:58:10 pm
Iv got a digital sureflow controller If any of you are using one and doing 20 or more houses a day can you tell me what number you have the flow on please.

It wont make a difference Jamie unless you have something that's hard to rinse of the glass like a huge amount of spiders webs,
Smurf made the best comment on this whole section which is take what you read on here with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: ObiwanK on December 05, 2016, 08:28:25 pm
Iv got a digital sureflow controller If any of you are using one and doing 20 or more houses a day can you tell me what number you have the flow on please.

It wont make a difference Jamie unless you have something that's hard to rinse of the glass like a huge amount of spiders webs,
Smurf made the best comment on this whole section which is take what you read on here with a pinch of salt.

Especially comments like 'It wont make a difference' when youre talking about flow rate and cleaning speed. Possibly the most stupid and incorrect statement ever written on this forum. And thats a very high bar.

High but not mad, Jamie. Youll find as you increase it there comes a point where you use less water than lower settings as youre cleaning so much more quickly. Just keep edging it up until youre happy with your speed. Mines 55-70 but depends upon controller and pump.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 05, 2016, 08:51:05 pm
Phil, unless your cleaning with a dribble then flow will make very little difference to speed, some people like a
high flow to give them confidence others don't need it.
If you had the slightest clue what your talking about you would realise this.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: ObiwanK on December 05, 2016, 09:04:53 pm
Phil, unless your cleaning with a dribble then flow will make very little difference to speed, some people like a
high flow to give them confidence others don't need it.
If you had the slightest clue what your talking about you would realise this.

You crack me up. You type this stuff as though youre not kidding, thats what makes it so funny. You really are a comic genius. You should give this up and go on the stage with that delivery. Brilliant.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 05, 2016, 09:06:06 pm
popcorn anyone  ;D ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 05, 2016, 09:15:06 pm
Anyhow if we believed how quick some of the products/methods are hyped up to be and we used all of them we could theoretically finish before we started surely.  :P ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 05, 2016, 09:15:35 pm
There you go Phil that should get you up to 40.lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSZvYWoPW7A
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 05, 2016, 09:21:38 pm
There you go Phil that should get you up to 40.lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSZvYWoPW7A

I love the sound of a turbo nozzle in the morning. YEHAA! ;D ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 05, 2016, 09:59:26 pm
When i first started i was paranoid about water consumption. I purchased a 500 ltr 450gdp diy system from purefreedom and the digi controller which cane with it. Because i was so paranoid i was initially proud that i could clean windows on a flow speed of 14, untill  i got bored with how slow i was going. I was also unsure about alot of conflicting views on this forum and so i began experimenting. For me, at the moment, i now use a flow rate of 70 and i have 4 jets on brush which i use for my rounds which are 4 wkly. As im cleaning already virtually clean windows, this method makes light work of it.  If its a first clean i pop it upto 80 and depending on condition of frames etc i may use ubik and the high flow n 4 jets help with a good fast rinse.

Believe me or dont believe me, quite frankly i dont care. All i would say is have the confidence in your own ability and dont be afraid to experiment and find out for yourself. Even if that does mean clean a few houses and go back on first ones to check your quality and results.  Any time lossed in learning will be made up with quicker work, no loss of quality and more confidence in your ability. Dont be like some on here who spend their time saying it cant be done without loss of quality or cutting corners or bla bla blaar, find out for yourself.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: robbo333 on December 05, 2016, 10:07:28 pm
For me, a standard 3 bed semi, no connie, no bays, every 8 weeks about 20 mins, reasonable pace. Thats all frames and sills cleaned, scrub over the glass twice and a rinse, front door wiped so no drips, downstairs sills wiped over, I also wipe the underside of small openers on downstairs, probably a 2 min chat, writing out my invoice blah blah. So about 2. 5 - 3 per hour and as many hours as you fancy. These aren't my best earners, I would prefer Mick's front onlys any day, or nice small commercial or small flats etc.

your wasting time(IMO) drying the doors and sills(and top openers) and writing out invoices/chits(mine are already printed/written out the night before).10-15 MINS FOR ME.sometimes that includes cleaning a conny too in the same time.these are mainly 4 weekly jobs though.

See what you're saying Daz but I only dry the doors and top openers on the ones that are in (or I think will come home while i'm cleaning) , the chits take me 20 seconds or so to do (just fill in the blanks) and unfortunately the 8 weekly can add a bit of crap and time to the clean, compared to 4 weekly. On the plus side, I do charge a premium for, what I consider to be a top job. Perhaps I need to rethink my approach?
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: ObiwanK on December 05, 2016, 10:15:08 pm
When i first started i was paranoid about water consumption. I purchased a 500 ltr 450gdp diy system from purefreedom and the digi controller which cane with it. Because i was so paranoid i was initially proud that i could clean windows on a flow speed of 14, untill  i got bored with how slow i was going. I was also unsure about alot of conflicting views on this forum and so i began experimenting. For me, at the moment, i now use a flow rate of 70 and i have 4 jets on brush which i use for my rounds which are 4 wkly. As im cleaning already virtually clean windows, this method makes light work of it.  If its a first clean i pop it upto 80 and depending on condition of frames etc i may use ubik and the high flow n 4 jets help with a good fast rinse.

Believe me or dont believe me, quite frankly i dont care. All i would say is have the confidence in your own ability and dont be afraid to experiment and find out for yourself. Even if that does mean clean a few houses and go back on first ones to check your quality and results.  Any time lossed in learning will be made up with quicker work, no loss of quality and more confidence in your ability. Dont be like some on here who spend their time saying it cant be done without loss of quality or cutting corners or bla bla blaar, find out for yourself.

Cant be done. Youre an idiot. Youre making it up. No reason for you to but you must be because I know best.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Stoots on December 05, 2016, 10:44:39 pm
I cleaned 44  modern detached mostly 3 and a few 4 bedroom houses on Wednesday between 8 and 2 45, don't get me wrong, this is the cream of my work and I can't achieve these numbers in other areas. I have been waiting by my phone waiting on the customer complaints coming in as according to some on here they can't possibly be cleaned properly...........Guess what, no complaints, just the usual online payments coming in with a few xmas tips thrown in for good measure, I'm happy, customers are happy, that's all.

6 detacheds an hour. Hour after hour for 7 hours

Heard it all on here now ffs lol
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 05, 2016, 11:22:50 pm
I cleaned 44  modern detached mostly 3 and a few 4 bedroom houses on Wednesday between 8 and 2 45, don't get me wrong, this is the cream of my work and I can't achieve these numbers in other areas. I have been waiting by my phone waiting on the customer complaints coming in as according to some on here they can't possibly be cleaned properly...........Guess what, no complaints, just the usual online payments coming in with a few xmas tips thrown in for good measure, I'm happy, customers are happy, that's all.

6 detacheds an hour. Hour after hour for 7 hours

Heard it all on here now ffs lol
That was done in 6 1/4  hours so 7 properties an hour, hour after hour actually ;D, not all of us have to drive around town doing 1 house per street you know..lol
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 05, 2016, 11:24:27 pm
When i first started i was paranoid about water consumption. I purchased a 500 ltr 450gdp diy system from purefreedom and the digi controller which cane with it. Because i was so paranoid i was initially proud that i could clean windows on a flow speed of 14, untill  i got bored with how slow i was going. I was also unsure about alot of conflicting views on this forum and so i began experimenting. For me, at the moment, i now use a flow rate of 70 and i have 4 jets on brush which i use for my rounds which are 4 wkly. As im cleaning already virtually clean windows, this method makes light work of it.  If its a first clean i pop it upto 80 and depending on condition of frames etc i may use ubik and the high flow n 4 jets help with a good fast rinse.

Believe me or dont believe me, quite frankly i dont care. All i would say is have the confidence in your own ability and dont be afraid to experiment and find out for yourself. Even if that does mean clean a few houses and go back on first ones to check your quality and results.  Any time lossed in learning will be made up with quicker work, no loss of quality and more confidence in your ability. Dont be like some on here who spend their time saying it cant be done without loss of quality or cutting corners or bla bla blaar, find out for yourself.

So what makes you think the guys who say it cant be done haven't experimented ? strange there only seems to be a few
on here hitting 30 to 35 or more properties per day, do you think you and angry Phil have discovered something that the rest of us haven't ?
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 06, 2016, 12:06:38 am
Sorry sean k if somehow youve taken offense at my post. Perhaps i should have quoted jamie thomas's post as he asked what flow speed did the people  who clean more than 20 houses use. My post was in answer to that question.

However to answer you Sean K, in my opinion if ones have experimented who are wanting to clean a higher turnover of houses in a day and find that they have to sacrifice quality or cut corners etc as ones have been stating on these threads. Then yes, in my personal opinion is that they must be doing something wrong or did not persevere to perfect the technique because it can be done without quality suffering.
However if ones have experimented and concluded that they can do so and choose that they dont require to work like that, then that is absolutely ok as well.  Because at the end of the day, does it really matter what each person does or doesnt do. Esp if they are happy doing whatever method suits them. But since this forum is to discuss and perhaps encourage, then  i try to post in a manner that reflects that.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: ObiwanK on December 06, 2016, 07:20:09 am
When i first started i was paranoid about water consumption. I purchased a 500 ltr 450gdp diy system from purefreedom and the digi controller which cane with it. Because i was so paranoid i was initially proud that i could clean windows on a flow speed of 14, untill  i got bored with how slow i was going. I was also unsure about alot of conflicting views on this forum and so i began experimenting. For me, at the moment, i now use a flow rate of 70 and i have 4 jets on brush which i use for my rounds which are 4 wkly. As im cleaning already virtually clean windows, this method makes light work of it.  If its a first clean i pop it upto 80 and depending on condition of frames etc i may use ubik and the high flow n 4 jets help with a good fast rinse.

Believe me or dont believe me, quite frankly i dont care. All i would say is have the confidence in your own ability and dont be afraid to experiment and find out for yourself. Even if that does mean clean a few houses and go back on first ones to check your quality and results.  Any time lossed in learning will be made up with quicker work, no loss of quality and more confidence in your ability. Dont be like some on here who spend their time saying it cant be done without loss of quality or cutting corners or bla bla blaar, find out for yourself.

So what makes you think the guys who say it cant be done haven't experimented ? strange there only seems to be a few
on here hitting 30 to 35 or more properties per day, do you think you and angry Phil have discovered something that the rest of us haven't ?

The question answers itself.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Jamie Thomas on December 06, 2016, 07:38:15 am
I run my sureflow on 5 I find that's enough for a decent rinse.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Shrek on December 06, 2016, 07:47:03 am
I run my sureflow on 5 I find that's enough for a decent rinse.

I'm sure 5 is enough.... if you have all day to clean one house.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Tosh on December 06, 2016, 07:52:16 am
I've never been to Australia but I do believe it's there.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 06, 2016, 09:12:21 am
I run my sureflow on 5 I find that's enough for a decent rinse.

I'm sure 5 is enough.... if you have all day to clean one house.

The number on the controller means very little, I find anything above one and a half litres a minute at the brush head will
be more than enough for most jobs.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Stoots on December 06, 2016, 05:53:16 pm
I cleaned 44  modern detached mostly 3 and a few 4 bedroom houses on Wednesday between 8 and 2 45, don't get me wrong, this is the cream of my work and I can't achieve these numbers in other areas. I have been waiting by my phone waiting on the customer complaints coming in as according to some on here they can't possibly be cleaned properly...........Guess what, no complaints, just the usual online payments coming in with a few xmas tips thrown in for good measure, I'm happy, customers are happy, that's all.

6 detacheds an hour. Hour after hour for 7 hours

Heard it all on here now ffs lol
That was done in 6 1/4  hours so 7 properties an hour, hour after hour actually ;D, not all of us have to drive around town doing 1 house per street you know..lol


It atually intrigues me how this is possible,  clean similar houses and they simply cannot be done under 10 mins a pop without quality suffering, ive cleaned my own windows in 5 mins (3 bed semi )and that was in ultra ridiculous turbo mode when you factor in posting slips, opening gates, dodging ornaments, reeling back in and out and moving van not to mention more windows some connys, some backpack, talking customers jobs etc etc it becomes unfeasable to do a house averaging under 10 mins without quality suffering. If you can work that fast for 7 hours you should be in the olympics as your endurance is unhuman.

Working at that speed i would have to have breaks as i would be wiped out

If you genuinely do it then you are a windows cleaning freak of nature, but i still supspect B.S
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 06, 2016, 11:05:23 pm
I cleaned 44  modern detached mostly 3 and a few 4 bedroom houses on Wednesday between 8 and 2 45, don't get me wrong, this is the cream of my work and I can't achieve these numbers in other areas. I have been waiting by my phone waiting on the customer complaints coming in as according to some on here they can't possibly be cleaned properly...........Guess what, no complaints, just the usual online payments coming in with a few xmas tips thrown in for good measure, I'm happy, customers are happy, that's all.

6 detacheds an hour. Hour after hour for 7 hours

Heard it all on here now ffs lol
That was done in 6 1/4  hours so 7 properties an hour, hour after hour actually ;D, not all of us have to drive around town doing 1 house per street you know..lol


It atually intrigues me how this is possible,  clean similar houses and they simply cannot be done under 10 mins a pop without quality suffering, ive cleaned my own windows in 5 mins (3 bed semi )and that was in ultra ridiculous turbo mode when you factor in posting slips, opening gates, dodging ornaments, reeling back in and out and moving van not to mention more windows some connys, some backpack, talking customers jobs etc etc it becomes unfeasable to do a house averaging under 10 mins without quality suffering. If you can work that fast for 7 hours you should be in the olympics as your endurance is unhuman.

Working at that speed i would have to have breaks as i would be wiped out

If you genuinely do it then you are a windows cleaning freak of nature, but i still supspect B.S
My endurance is not any better than average, I work at a brisk pace, nothing more than that. Working 6 and a bit hours using an 18' SLX and a 16 litre backpack ( occasionally a trolley ) is hardly back breaking stuff. Just because you or anyone else can't manage to do that amount of houses doesn't mean it can't be done. It really is of no concern to me that you suspect B.S, maybe I suspect that you are green with envy,  if I wanted to B.S I would be claiming that I get £15 for these modern houses, I don't, I only get £7 or £8 for them, more if they have a conservatory. Anyway I best be off to bed, another busy day in front of me ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: dazmond on December 07, 2016, 08:18:46 am
I cleaned 44  modern detached mostly 3 and a few 4 bedroom houses on Wednesday between 8 and 2 45, don't get me wrong, this is the cream of my work and I can't achieve these numbers in other areas. I have been waiting by my phone waiting on the customer complaints coming in as according to some on here they can't possibly be cleaned properly...........Guess what, no complaints, just the usual online payments coming in with a few xmas tips thrown in for good measure, I'm happy, customers are happy, that's all.

6 detacheds an hour. Hour after hour for 7 hours

Heard it all on here now ffs lol
That was done in 6 1/4  hours so 7 properties an hour, hour after hour actually ;D, not all of us have to drive around town doing 1 house per street you know..lol


It atually intrigues me how this is possible,  clean similar houses and they simply cannot be done under 10 mins a pop without quality suffering, ive cleaned my own windows in 5 mins (3 bed semi )and that was in ultra ridiculous turbo mode when you factor in posting slips, opening gates, dodging ornaments, reeling back in and out and moving van not to mention more windows some connys, some backpack, talking customers jobs etc etc it becomes unfeasable to do a house averaging under 10 mins without quality suffering. If you can work that fast for 7 hours you should be in the olympics as your endurance is unhuman.

Working at that speed i would have to have breaks as i would be wiped out

If you genuinely do it then you are a windows cleaning freak of nature, but i still supspect B.S
My endurance is not any better than average, I work at a brisk pace, nothing more than that. Working 6 and a bit hours using an 18' SLX and a 16 litre backpack ( occasionally a trolley ) is hardly back breaking stuff. Just because you or anyone else can't manage to do that amount of houses doesn't mean it can't be done. It really is of no concern to me that you suspect B.S, maybe I suspect that you are green with envy,  if I wanted to B.S I would be claiming that I get £15 for these modern houses, I don't, I only get £7 or £8 for them, more if they have a conservatory. Anyway I best be off to bed, another busy day in front of me ;D

now we know your lying mate.some of us have been window cleaning over 20 years and some 5-10+ years wfp.we know an average is 4 or 5 an hour and thats working briskly(with a van mount!)on run of the mill work.

your using a backpack? ;D

your on a wind up mate! ;D

......and some on here REALLY take the bait! ::)roll :)
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 07, 2016, 09:39:55 am
The guy in the video cleaning a detached property front in under two minutes is using a backpack, I believe your right Dazmond
but not for the reason you gave.
Give me 45 properties with small windows, no openers, no degraded rubber seals, no hard to reach, no trampolines, bikes. v shaped scooters, no flower pots. window boxes. bins, fences, gates, no snails. birds. spiders. insects. pollen. tree sap. no damp easily damaged slippery lawns. wet wooden decking, vehicles, no pensioners or any other humans that could trip on my hose.
Put an honesty box on my van for any customer who wants to pay me when I'm there, train all my customers to only speak when
spoken to, have all the properties reachable with one van move and I may be able to get 25 of them. lol.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: jonboywalton75 on December 07, 2016, 09:49:13 am
What's he doing charging 7 or 8 pounds each
I'm like a veteran  footballer who lets the ball do the work
I'm 59 so I use my head
I reckon 90% of window cleaners are thick as pig pooo
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Tosh on December 07, 2016, 10:25:27 am
What's he doing charging 7 or 8 pounds each
I'm like a veteran  footballer who lets the ball do the work
I'm 59 so I use my head
I reckon 90% of window cleaners are thick as pig pooo

+1
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 07, 2016, 11:55:32 am
The guy in the video cleaning a detached property front in under two minutes is using a backpack, I believe your right Dazmond
but not for the reason you gave.
Give me 45 properties with small windows, no openers, no degraded rubber seals, no hard to reach, no trampolines, bikes. v shaped scooters, no flower pots. window boxes. bins, fences, gates, no snails. birds. spiders. insects. pollen. tree sap. no damp easily damaged slippery lawns. wet wooden decking, vehicles, no pensioners or any other humans that could trip on my hose.
Put an honesty box on my van for any customer who wants to pay me when I'm there, train all my customers to only speak when
spoken to, have all the properties reachable with one van move and I may be able to get 25 of them. lol.

Dont forget plenty of descent coffee as you need caffeine rush as well.  ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: combat1 on December 07, 2016, 12:10:13 pm
The only time i've done twenty a day was when I used to smoke cigarettes! X
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 07, 2016, 01:41:59 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1481118151_Screenshot_2016-12-07-13-25-09.png)

An example of a bay window, (well part of)
That i clean. As ive previously said n said n said (lol) i clean 4wkly so its just maintenance cleans. Cleaning already clean windows and clean frames for all the critique on frames. I probably clean frames every 8 or 12 wks pending their condition. But as all mine are pvc, they stay relatively clean. On a flow of 70 majority of my windows are not aquaphobic and so it just glides down the glass lovely. Houses like this, door after door is what my rounds are often like. Making it easy work to do 30 or more houses in a day, the joys of my rounds.

Admittingly not everyone is fortunate to have large compact rounds, hence the haters n critiques of people who have and can make it possible to clean more houses than them with relative ease.
For critiques who go on about plants, toys n poop in garden, not everyone is as unfortunate as you perhaps or they have done something about it. For instance when i was on ladder, a customer had a bush growing (no inuendo) which made it dangerous for ladder, i gave him choice of 3, cut/remove plant // i dont clean that window (same price tho) or find someone else willing. 4 wks later, the plant was well trimmed.
Another had poop all over garden and not just a days worth. I used to dodge it all on ladder but now with hose i gave the client same choice. I would txt to say calling next day to give heads up for poop to be cleared or find another cleaner. Yes, they clear the poop.
Would my clients do that if i did a hap hazard // splash n dash job or sould they tell me to F off!  There are plenty of shiners  about with undercutting prices in my areas as well, so they could easily replace me, but dont.

Either way, ones who clean for whatever reasons more houses in a day and those who clean less, if their happy and making a living from it, well done n does it really matter.
Now get of the forum as we have windows to clean b4 xmass  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 07, 2016, 02:09:43 pm
I only did one job today which took 2 hours. Mind you was 2 blocks of flats... Was that quick enough for you?
35 plus houses a day working 6-8 hours sounds like hard work to me...Stuff that  ::)roll
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 07, 2016, 02:40:16 pm
I only did one job today which took 2 hours. Mind you was 2 blocks of flats... Was that quick enough for you?
35 plus houses a day working 6-8 hours sounds like hard work to me...Stuff that  ::)roll

Brilliant  ;D

A friend of mine has a block of flats. He cleans outside whilst wife does inside windows. Takes a full day, its a large block of flats. The money he makes on that is amazing, im well jealouse of ones who have flats.

Not interested in commercial cleaning now though. Used to and good money can be made and i know plenty on here are doing so. But i found it to be cut throat and too stressful and so left commercial and dont fancy a return to it. But envious if the income that could be had from it.
Lol, thats a complete side line point  ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 07, 2016, 03:52:09 pm
I cleaned 44  modern detached mostly 3 and a few 4 bedroom houses on Wednesday between 8 and 2 45, don't get me wrong, this is the cream of my work and I can't achieve these numbers in other areas. I have been waiting by my phone waiting on the customer complaints coming in as according to some on here they can't possibly be cleaned properly...........Guess what, no complaints, just the usual online payments coming in with a few xmas tips thrown in for good measure, I'm happy, customers are happy, that's all.

6 detacheds an hour. Hour after hour for 7 hours

Heard it all on here now ffs lol
That was done in 6 1/4  hours so 7 properties an hour, hour after hour actually ;D, not all of us have to drive around town doing 1 house per street you know..lol


It atually intrigues me how this is possible,  clean similar houses and they simply cannot be done under 10 mins a pop without quality suffering, ive cleaned my own windows in 5 mins (3 bed semi )and that was in ultra ridiculous turbo mode when you factor in posting slips, opening gates, dodging ornaments, reeling back in and out and moving van not to mention more windows some connys, some backpack, talking customers jobs etc etc it becomes unfeasable to do a house averaging under 10 mins without quality suffering. If you can work that fast for 7 hours you should be in the olympics as your endurance is unhuman.

Working at that speed i would have to have breaks as i would be wiped out

If you genuinely do it then you are a windows cleaning freak of nature, but i still supspect B.S
My endurance is not any better than average, I work at a brisk pace, nothing more than that. Working 6 and a bit hours using an 18' SLX and a 16 litre backpack ( occasionally a trolley ) is hardly back breaking stuff. Just because you or anyone else can't manage to do that amount of houses doesn't mean it can't be done. It really is of no concern to me that you suspect B.S, maybe I suspect that you are green with envy,  if I wanted to B.S I would be claiming that I get £15 for these modern houses, I don't, I only get £7 or £8 for them, more if they have a conservatory. Anyway I best be off to bed, another busy day in front of me ;D

now we know your lying mate.some of us have been window cleaning over 20 years and some 5-10+ years wfp.we know an average is 4 or 5 an hour and thats working briskly(with a van mount!)on run of the mill work.

your using a backpack? ;D

your on a wind up mate! ;D

......and some on here REALLY take the bait! ::)roll :)
No wind up from me mate, you change your mind so often next week you'll be tellin us backpacks are the bees knees ;D I had a 2 man van mount in my last van, couldn't get on with the hoses, much prefer to carry a backpack, so now in my van I have a 750 litre tank with  1" valve that fills the backpack really quick, I then plop the backpack down at front of house do the tops, keep pole extended then carry the backpackround to the back of house, plop it down, to do tops, lower pole to do bottoms, back round to the front, if they are a pay on the day customer I ring the bell before I start doing the bottoms, that way no hanging about waiting on them answering door, if they pay online I simply put a windows cleaned today slip through, no need to write on the slip as customer knows the price, the only time I write on the slip is when someone for some reason may be due double. I have been window cleaning for 14 years, WFP for 6.  I don't care too much what others do or don't clean, or what they do or don't charge, I prefer to  concentrate on what works for me and my customers.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 07, 2016, 04:01:11 pm
What's he doing charging 7 or 8 pounds each
I'm like a veteran  footballer who lets the ball do the work
I'm 59 so I use my head
I reckon 90% of window cleaners are thick as pig pooo
Well if you multiply the 7 or 8 pounds x the amount of houses I clean, I can put up with anyone calling me thick. Oh and I use my head as well, by the time I'm 59 I won't need to clean any windows ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Stoots on December 07, 2016, 04:15:25 pm
 :-X
I cleaned 44  modern detached mostly 3 and a few 4 bedroom houses on Wednesday between 8 and 2 45, don't get me wrong, this is the cream of my work and I can't achieve these numbers in other areas. I have been waiting by my phone waiting on the customer complaints coming in as according to some on here they can't possibly be cleaned properly...........Guess what, no complaints, just the usual online payments coming in with a few xmas tips thrown in for good measure, I'm happy, customers are happy, that's all.

6 detacheds an hour. Hour after hour for 7 hours

Heard it all on here now ffs lol
That was done in 6 1/4  hours so 7 properties an hour, hour after hour actually ;D, not all of us have to drive around town doing 1 house per street you know..lol


It atually intrigues me how this is possible,  clean similar houses and they simply cannot be done under 10 mins a pop without quality suffering, ive cleaned my own windows in 5 mins (3 bed semi )and that was in ultra ridiculous turbo mode when you factor in posting slips, opening gates, dodging ornaments, reeling back in and out and moving van not to mention more windows some connys, some backpack, talking customers jobs etc etc it becomes unfeasable to do a house averaging under 10 mins without quality suffering. If you can work that fast for 7 hours you should be in the olympics as your endurance is unhuman.

Working at that speed i would have to have breaks as i would be wiped out

If you genuinely do it then you are a windows cleaning freak of nature, but i still supspect B.S
My endurance is not any better than average, I work at a brisk pace, nothing more than that. Working 6 and a bit hours using an 18' SLX and a 16 litre backpack ( occasionally a trolley ) is hardly back breaking stuff. Just because you or anyone else can't manage to do that amount of houses doesn't mean it can't be done. It really is of no concern to me that you suspect B.S, maybe I suspect that you are green with envy,  if I wanted to B.S I would be claiming that I get £15 for these modern houses, I don't, I only get £7 or £8 for them, more if they have a conservatory. Anyway I best be off to bed, another busy day in front of me ;D

No envy here mate, I've had days where I've tried to work flat out to see what can be done and it absolutely destroys me physically i wouldnt want to do it even if i could i would much rather charge double what you are and do half as many but thats my perogative. I know it's hard to guess what other people's houses are like but 3 or 4 bed detacheds with all the associated things that go with it. I reckon I would struggle to get round 44 house and spray water on each window, wind in and out post a slip etc without cleaning them and I'm not slow in the slightest. You say you do this with a backpack that has to be refilled and lumped around makes it all the more extraordinary.



Fair enough if you do it like you say doesn't matter what anyone else thinks I know I couldn't care less either just interesting to see what others claim
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 07, 2016, 04:24:07 pm
KS must be very tall too just using an slx18 on every job. I'm also betting by now he has one arm longer than the other  ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Dave Willis on December 07, 2016, 04:31:44 pm
I'm sorry, nobody earns more than Dazmond or takes as many holidays.

It's simply not possible, not without a £300 reel, Extreme pole,  hot water and Vision.

It just can't be done.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 07, 2016, 04:44:12 pm
Some trad guys can crack out 35-40 a day using ladders as the norm. Now being wfp is supposed to be quicker surely based on  that logic it should be possible to at least do the same if not more  ::)roll
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: steven ainger on December 07, 2016, 04:53:41 pm
KS must be very tall too just using an slx18 on every job. I'm also betting by now he has one arm longer than the other  ;D

I clean 99% of my work with a Slx18,
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 07, 2016, 05:19:51 pm
KS must be very tall too just using an slx18 on every job. I'm also betting by now he has one arm longer than the other  ;D
Where did I say I use it on every job?  I have a part time employee who uses a 22' pole and I have a 30' pole which is used for around 1 hour every 4 weeks. I'm off to measure my arms just now ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 07, 2016, 05:58:57 pm
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on December 07, 2016, 06:55:07 pm
What's he doing charging 7 or 8 pounds each
I'm like a veteran  footballer who lets the ball do the work
I'm 59 so I use my head
I reckon 90% of window cleaners are thick as pig pooo

90% is exceptionally generous.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Frankybadboy on December 07, 2016, 07:28:54 pm
after reading all the crap on the last 9 pages i can now understand why must of you are window cleaners :P
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Tosh on December 07, 2016, 10:09:04 pm
I only did one house today. That was also 6 1/2 hrs.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 07, 2016, 11:53:35 pm
I wonder......if the question was asked "who is the best window cleaner?" If everyone was on the same footing, what the answers  would be........im guessing we would all put ourselves forward.  Were all so proud of the fact that we own our own business and that dispite what anyone else does,,,,,,     
         "one" does it better still and to make sure that "one" believes that,,,,,well one has to out others down for ones own sake; "They must be charging crap prices"
"Quality must suffer"
"Had to be splash n dash"
"They must be in guiness book of records"
"How can you be soooo fit not to tire out"

One thing for sure, this thread has kept peoples interests..........for better or worse
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: 8weekly on December 08, 2016, 07:22:03 am
I wonder......if the question was asked "who is the best window cleaner?" If everyone was on the same footing, what the answers  would be........im guessing we would all put ourselves forward.  Were all so proud of the fact that we own our own business and that dispite what anyone else does,,,,,,     
         "one" does it better still and to make sure that "one" believes that,,,,,well one has to out others down for ones own sake; "They must be charging crap prices"
"Quality must suffer"
"Had to be splash n dash"
"They must be in guiness book of records"
"How can you be soooo fit not to tire out"

One thing for sure, this thread has kept peoples interests..........for better or worse
I reckon I'm about average. My technique is rather like yours from what I saw on the video. So-so.  ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: chris turner on December 08, 2016, 07:57:45 am
I wonder......if the question was asked "who is the best window cleaner?" If everyone was on the same footing, what the answers  would be........im guessing we would all put ourselves forward.  Were all so proud of the fact that we own our own business and that dispite what anyone else does,,,,,,     
         "one" does it better still and to make sure that "one" believes that,,,,,well one has to out others down for ones own sake; "They must be charging crap prices"
"Quality must suffer"
"Had to be splash n dash"
"They must be in guiness book of records"
"How can you be soooo fit not to tire out"

One thing for sure, this thread has kept peoples interests..........for better or worse
I reckon I'm about average. My technique is rather like yours from what I saw on the video. So-so.  ;D

And you price highly!
I look forward to seeing you on next week's episode of watchdog ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 08, 2016, 08:55:38 am
I wonder......if the question was asked "who is the best window cleaner?" If everyone was on the same footing, what the answers  would be........im guessing we would all put ourselves forward.  Were all so proud of the fact that we own our own business and that dispite what anyone else does,,,,,,     
         "one" does it better still and to make sure that "one" believes that,,,,,well one has to out others down for ones own sake; "They must be charging crap prices"
"Quality must suffer"
"Had to be splash n dash"
"They must be in guiness book of records"
"How can you be soooo fit not to tire out"

One thing for sure, this thread has kept peoples interests..........for better or worse
I reckon I'm about average. My technique is rather like yours from what I saw on the video. So-so.  ;D

So-so, Your in a generous judging mood, lol.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: 8weekly on December 08, 2016, 09:06:06 am
It's true though. I see some guys and they look so neat with their technique, but mine's all over the place. That said, I get very, very few complaints. I do have a turnover but I think that's inevitable when you're in "customer acquisition mode".
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 08, 2016, 09:15:43 am
I wonder......if the question was asked "who is the best window cleaner?" If everyone was on the same footing, what the answers  would be........im guessing we would all put ourselves forward.  Were all so proud of the fact that we own our own business and that dispite what anyone else does,,,,,,     
         "one" does it better still and to make sure that "one" believes that,,,,,well one has to out others down for ones own sake; "They must be charging crap prices"
"Quality must suffer"
"Had to be splash n dash"
"They must be in guiness book of records"
"How can you be soooo fit not to tire out"

One thing for sure, this thread has kept peoples interests..........for better or worse

Personally I take most things I read on here with a pinch of salt, most of my opinions come from my own experiences on the
glass and what others are up to in my neck of the woods.
Put it this way, none of the splash and dash guys in my area (and there are a few ) have any sort of reputation for quality
and tend to keep custom by offering a half decent clean at a cheaper price.
Why should I believe that any of the splash and dash guys on here would be any different ?
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: chris turner on December 08, 2016, 09:55:11 am
I wonder......if the question was asked "who is the best window cleaner?" If everyone was on the same footing, what the answers  would be........im guessing we would all put ourselves forward.  Were all so proud of the fact that we own our own business and that dispite what anyone else does,,,,,,     
         "one" does it better still and to make sure that "one" believes that,,,,,well one has to out others down for ones own sake; "They must be charging crap prices"
"Quality must suffer"
"Had to be splash n dash"
"They must be in guiness book of records"
"How can you be soooo fit not to tire out"

One thing for sure, this thread has kept peoples interests..........for better or worse

Personally I take most things I read on here with a pinch of salt, most of my opinions come from my own experiences on the
glass and what others are up to in my neck of the woods.
Put it this way, none of the splash and dash guys in my area (and there are a few ) have any sort of reputation for quality
and tend to keep custom by offering a half decent clean at a cheaper price.
Why should I believe that any of the splash and dash guys on here would be any different ?

Some people are very good at getting the work, but cr@p at doing it.
If I think back through the whole of this last year, I can only remember 1 complaint due to workmanship, and even that I don't believe was my fault ( I know, it never is ).  That was because the poxy gardener turned up just as i finished cleaning the windows and started blowing leaves everywhere, including onto the still wet windows.

I just don't get complaints, I do the job properly.

I have an impeccable reputation for quality which is why I haven't advertised for years. Most jobs I pick up are through recommendations, including nearly all my commercial.

My fondest memory of this job is when I won a contract for a large healthcare centre, probably my best job. Windows in and out every 5 weeks, gutters 4 times a year, fascia cleaning once a year, all well priced.
They got rid of the last company because they were 'splash an dash'. The windows always looked spottier then my chin at the height of puberty. Top Sills were green, half the insides were always missed.
My price was higher then theirs even though they were vat reg and I'm not, but I got the job.
Within 10 weeks of getting the contract I'd cleared the gutters, cleaned fascias/soffits and cleaned the windows twice. It looked like a new building.
On my third visit to clean the windows I was doing the insides when one of the lady admin girls showed me an email sent to all staff from the boss.
In short it read, ' I hope everyone has noticed what a fantastic job our new window cleaner has done in transforming the look of our building. Please accommodate him in any way you can so we can keep the building looking it's best and well maintained at all times'.
When you read stuff like that it's a good feeling and you know your doing the job properly.
I only got that job because one of my customers works there and put my name forward for the tendering process. Iv since picked up around a dozen new customers from the centre, as well as 2 new centres.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 08, 2016, 10:33:28 am
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1481193057_Screenshot_2016-12-08-10-30-13.png)


(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1481193094_Screenshot_2016-11-27-23-11-39.png)

Doesnt quite sound likd splash n dash does it!! Nor low quality or recommended on cheap prices.  It actually sounds like praise worthy strong recommendations based on, ,,,,,,,oh yes, quality work.

Yes, lol, i have posted these before. But these are my most recent (nov 2016) social media praises.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 08, 2016, 11:13:02 am
Social media works both ways you know and a bad word will travel a lot faster than a good one surely?

So what happens if you don't want to take on a job for some reason or another, they don't want to pay that much or they turn out to be messers/bad payers?

Oh and they find out it only takes you less than 4mins to do their 3 bed semi bay fronted house. Would they still see it as value for money...I don't think so somehow  ;D ;D

Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 08, 2016, 12:07:30 pm
Social media works both ways you know and a bad word will travel a lot faster than a good one surely?

So what happens if you don't want to take on a job for some reason or another, they don't want to pay that much or they turn out to be messers/bad payers?

Oh and they find out it only takes you less than 4mins to do their 3 bed semi bay fronted house. Would they still see it as value for money...I don't think so somehow  ;D ;D

Thankfully ive not had a bad word against me yet, lol apart from on here.

In addition to providing a quality job, regardless of what field of work it is. A lot is said of a persons character. Im sure youve got jobs based not just on price Smurf, but down to your character im sure.
This goes a long way. But strength of character proves its worth not when things go easy, but when you might come accross obstacles for instance. Personally if ive come across difficulties with customers i deal with it in a professional manner when it is work related. Thats why i have customers who are happy for me to txt them to give heads up so they can clear a garden of dog poop rather than loose me, or customers hack back garden plants etc etc.  But if we have to part ways, i hopefully dont leave a bad taste in their mouth, so to speak where they attack online.

As far as speed is concerned, i feel its how you sell yourselve and your service.  For instance picked up a new job a short while ago. His cleaner not been for over a yr, but he was on wfp also. My first clean for him was a first clean, ie used ubik on frames to get it upto scratch. So it took a little longer. The guy told me he timed the previous chap and it took him just over 3mins and knew i did a good job because its taking longer. This chap is a carpenter. I explained  why it took me a short while and that my next cleans would be just as quick and i likened it to his work. He used power tools to cut etc. Would he go back to hand tools or do the power tools give him speed and perhaps more quality. He obviously agreed and so i likened it to my investment, how it helps me do the same job as traditional but quicker and perhaps better. The penny dropped and he doesnt have a problem with speed or price.

Im not going to slow down, just because people cant grasp how you can work at a comfortable speed and still provide the same good results.  Again more waffle.....i had an old dear in a bungalow trad cleaned. I perhaps was faster than most guys. She would always come outside and check every window n sill before paying because she thought it should take a set amount of time to clean properly. She was a persistant old dear (but we did get on great), untill the day she passed away, she never found a fault.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: SeanK on December 08, 2016, 12:19:52 pm
I wonder was that down to your skill or her eyesight. lol.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 08, 2016, 12:30:00 pm
I wonder was that down to your skill or her eyesight. lol.

 ;D  ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: jonboywalton75 on December 08, 2016, 03:10:00 pm
What's he doing charging 7 or 8 pounds each
I'm like a veteran  footballer who lets the ball do the work
I'm 59 so I use my head
I reckon 90% of window cleaners are thick as pig pooo
Well if you multiply the 7 or 8 pounds x the amount of houses I clean, I can put up with anyone calling me thick. Oh and I use my head as well, by the time I'm 59 I won't need to clean any windows ;D

Anyone doing 35 houses a day won't reach 59!!!!!!
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: jonboywalton75 on December 08, 2016, 03:13:05 pm
KS must be very tall too just using an slx18 on every job. I'm also betting by now he has one arm longer than the other  ;D

I clean 99% of my work with a Slx18,

I do 90% of mine using slx 18
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 08, 2016, 03:30:31 pm
KS must be very tall too just using an slx18 on every job. I'm also betting by now he has one arm longer than the other  ;D

I clean 99% of my work with a Slx18,

I do 90% of mine using slx 18

So are you saying out of say 500 you need a longer pole on about 50 of them... Yeah right  ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 08, 2016, 04:11:45 pm
I wonder......if the question was asked "who is the best window cleaner?" If everyone was on the same footing, what the answers  would be........im guessing we would all put ourselves forward.  Were all so proud of the fact that we own our own business and that dispite what anyone else does,,,,,,     
         "one" does it better still and to make sure that "one" believes that,,,,,well one has to out others down for ones own sake; "They must be charging crap prices"
"Quality must suffer"
"Had to be splash n dash"
"They must be in guiness book of records"
"How can you be soooo fit not to tire out"

One thing for sure, this thread has kept peoples interests..........for better or worse

Personally I take most things I read on here with a pinch of salt, most of my opinions come from my own experiences on the
glass and what others are up to in my neck of the woods.
Put it this way, none of the splash and dash guys in my area (and there are a few ) have any sort of reputation for quality
and tend to keep custom by offering a half decent clean at a cheaper price.
Why should I believe that any of the splash and dash guys on here would be any different ?

Some people are very good at getting the work, but cr@p at doing it.
If I think back through the whole of this last year, I can only remember 1 complaint due to workmanship, and even that I don't believe was my fault ( I know, it never is ).  That was because the poxy gardener turned up just as i finished cleaning the windows and started blowing leaves everywhere, including onto the still wet windows.

I just don't get complaints, I do the job properly.

I have an impeccable reputation for quality which is why I haven't advertised for years. Most jobs I pick up are through recommendations, including nearly all my commercial.

My fondest memory of this job is when I won a contract for a large healthcare centre, probably my best job. Windows in and out every 5 weeks, gutters 4 times a year, fascia cleaning once a year, all well priced.
They got rid of the last company because they were 'splash an dash'. The windows always looked spottier then my chin at the height of puberty. Top Sills were green, half the insides were always missed.
My price was higher then theirs even though they were vat reg and I'm not, but I got the job.
Within 10 weeks of getting the contract I'd cleared the gutters, cleaned fascias/soffits and cleaned the windows twice. It looked like a new building.
On my third visit to clean the windows I was doing the insides when one of the lady admin girls showed me an email sent to all staff from the boss.
In short it read, ' I hope everyone has noticed what a fantastic job our new window cleaner has done in transforming the look of our building. Please accommodate him in any way you can so we can keep the building looking it's best and well maintained at all times'.
When you read stuff like that it's a good feeling and you know your doing the job properly.
I only got that job because one of my customers works there and put my name forward for the tendering process. Iv since picked up around a dozen new customers from the centre, as well as 2 new centres.
Gutters 4 times a year :o Who's gonna be making an appearance on Watchdog now ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 08, 2016, 04:15:54 pm
What's he doing charging 7 or 8 pounds each
I'm like a veteran  footballer who lets the ball do the work
I'm 59 so I use my head
I reckon 90% of window cleaners are thick as pig pooo
Well if you multiply the 7 or 8 pounds x the amount of houses I clean, I can put up with anyone calling me thick. Oh and I use my head as well, by the time I'm 59 I won't need to clean any windows ;D

Anyone doing 35 houses a day won't reach 59!!!!!!
Seeing as I only average 26 hours on the glass per week I should be just fine!!!!!
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Tosh on December 08, 2016, 04:55:49 pm
I only did one house today. That was also 6 1/2 hrs.

Only one house again today. 6 hours this time.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Tosh on December 08, 2016, 05:00:09 pm
In fact it was one house on Monday.


Well one main house and 2 others on the estate owned by the fella that owns the main house plus three converted stable blocks now rented out by the same fella that owns the main house as separate apartments.

So thats one visit but 6 houses.

8 houses on Tuesday. All that reeling in does my nut ;)


Thats 16 houses this week and one tomorrow.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: jonboywalton75 on December 08, 2016, 05:42:22 pm
I did one house a few years back
Took me 2.5 days
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: chris turner on December 08, 2016, 05:56:40 pm
I wonder......if the question was asked "who is the best window cleaner?" If everyone was on the same footing, what the answers  would be........im guessing we would all put ourselves forward.  Were all so proud of the fact that we own our own business and that dispite what anyone else does,,,,,,     
         "one" does it better still and to make sure that "one" believes that,,,,,well one has to out others down for ones own sake; "They must be charging crap prices"
"Quality must suffer"
"Had to be splash n dash"
"They must be in guiness book of records"
"How can you be soooo fit not to tire out"

One thing for sure, this thread has kept peoples interests..........for better or worse

Personally I take most things I read on here with a pinch of salt, most of my opinions come from my own experiences on the
glass and what others are up to in my neck of the woods.
Put it this way, none of the splash and dash guys in my area (and there are a few ) have any sort of reputation for quality
and tend to keep custom by offering a half decent clean at a cheaper price.
Why should I believe that any of the splash and dash guys on here would be any different ?

Some people are very good at getting the work, but cr@p at doing it.
If I think back through the whole of this last year, I can only remember 1 complaint due to workmanship, and even that I don't believe was my fault ( I know, it never is ).  That was because the poxy gardener turned up just as i finished cleaning the windows and started blowing leaves everywhere, including onto the still wet windows.

I just don't get complaints, I do the job properly.

I have an impeccable reputation for quality which is why I haven't advertised for years. Most jobs I pick up are through recommendations, including nearly all my commercial.

My fondest memory of this job is when I won a contract for a large healthcare centre, probably my best job. Windows in and out every 5 weeks, gutters 4 times a year, fascia cleaning once a year, all well priced.
They got rid of the last company because they were 'splash an dash'. The windows always looked spottier then my chin at the height of puberty. Top Sills were green, half the insides were always missed.
My price was higher then theirs even though they were vat reg and I'm not, but I got the job.
Within 10 weeks of getting the contract I'd cleared the gutters, cleaned fascias/soffits and cleaned the windows twice. It looked like a new building.
On my third visit to clean the windows I was doing the insides when one of the lady admin girls showed me an email sent to all staff from the boss.
In short it read, ' I hope everyone has noticed what a fantastic job our new window cleaner has done in transforming the look of our building. Please accommodate him in any way you can so we can keep the building looking it's best and well maintained at all times'.
When you read stuff like that it's a good feeling and you know your doing the job properly.
I only got that job because one of my customers works there and put my name forward for the tendering process. Iv since picked up around a dozen new customers from the centre, as well as 2 new centres.
Gutters 4 times a year :o Who's gonna be making an appearance on Watchdog now ;D

The centre is in the sticks, surrounded by massive trees that just seem to be constantly shredding leaves.
They requested 4 times a year, who am I to complain ;)
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Mick Kent on December 08, 2016, 05:59:17 pm
I did 47 fronts today over 3 roads today out at 8.30 and home by 3.30, tonight im on a handover B&Q internal and travelator/balustrade glass clean roughly 9pm-12 at a guess which earns more than the 47 fronts today. Nearly a Bag of sand for 10 hours work. If only every day was as good.



Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 08, 2016, 07:27:23 pm
I did 47 fronts today over 3 roads today out at 8.30 and home by 3.30, tonight im on a handover B&Q internal and travelator/balustrade glass clean roughly 9pm-12 at a guess which earns more than the 47 fronts today. Nearly a Bag of sand for 10 hours work. If only every day was as good.

Could it be argued that 47 fronts would be possibly less than 23/24 full house. 😉 😉
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Mick Kent on December 08, 2016, 09:46:29 pm
Of course, thats my point. 2 mins a pop easy terrace fronts.
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 08, 2016, 11:43:49 pm
I wonder......if the question was asked "who is the best window cleaner?" If everyone was on the same footing, what the answers  would be........im guessing we would all put ourselves forward.  Were all so proud of the fact that we own our own business and that dispite what anyone else does,,,,,,     
         "one" does it better still and to make sure that "one" believes that,,,,,well one has to out others down for ones own sake; "They must be charging crap prices"
"Quality must suffer"
"Had to be splash n dash"
"They must be in guiness book of records"
"How can you be soooo fit not to tire out"

One thing for sure, this thread has kept peoples interests..........for better or worse

Personally I take most things I read on here with a pinch of salt, most of my opinions come from my own experiences on the
glass and what others are up to in my neck of the woods.
Put it this way, none of the splash and dash guys in my area (and there are a few ) have any sort of reputation for quality
and tend to keep custom by offering a half decent clean at a cheaper price.
Why should I believe that any of the splash and dash guys on here would be any different ?

Some people are very good at getting the work, but cr@p at doing it.
If I think back through the whole of this last year, I can only remember 1 complaint due to workmanship, and even that I don't believe was my fault ( I know, it never is ).  That was because the poxy gardener turned up just as i finished cleaning the windows and started blowing leaves everywhere, including onto the still wet windows.

I just don't get complaints, I do the job properly.

I have an impeccable reputation for quality which is why I haven't advertised for years. Most jobs I pick up are through recommendations, including nearly all my commercial.

My fondest memory of this job is when I won a contract for a large healthcare centre, probably my best job. Windows in and out every 5 weeks, gutters 4 times a year, fascia cleaning once a year, all well priced.
They got rid of the last company because they were 'splash an dash'. The windows always looked spottier then my chin at the height of puberty. Top Sills were green, half the insides were always missed.
My price was higher then theirs even though they were vat reg and I'm not, but I got the job.
Within 10 weeks of getting the contract I'd cleared the gutters, cleaned fascias/soffits and cleaned the windows twice. It looked like a new building.
On my third visit to clean the windows I was doing the insides when one of the lady admin girls showed me an email sent to all staff from the boss.
In short it read, ' I hope everyone has noticed what a fantastic job our new window cleaner has done in transforming the look of our building. Please accommodate him in any way you can so we can keep the building looking it's best and well maintained at all times'.
When you read stuff like that it's a good feeling and you know your doing the job properly.
I only got that job because one of my customers works there and put my name forward for the tendering process. Iv since picked up around a dozen new customers from the centre, as well as 2 new centres.
Gutters 4 times a year :o Who's gonna be making an appearance on Watchdog now ;D

The centre is in the sticks, surrounded by massive trees that just seem to be constantly shredding leaves.
They requested 4 times a year, who am I to complain ;)
Trees only shed ( not shred ) leaves in autumn, you are ripping them off you rogue ;D
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: chris turner on December 09, 2016, 07:17:47 am
I wonder......if the question was asked "who is the best window cleaner?" If everyone was on the same footing, what the answers  would be........im guessing we would all put ourselves forward.  Were all so proud of the fact that we own our own business and that dispite what anyone else does,,,,,,     
         "one" does it better still and to make sure that "one" believes that,,,,,well one has to out others down for ones own sake; "They must be charging crap prices"
"Quality must suffer"
"Had to be splash n dash"
"They must be in guiness book of records"
"How can you be soooo fit not to tire out"

One thing for sure, this thread has kept peoples interests..........for better or worse

Personally I take most things I read on here with a pinch of salt, most of my opinions come from my own experiences on the
glass and what others are up to in my neck of the woods.
Put it this way, none of the splash and dash guys in my area (and there are a few ) have any sort of reputation for quality
and tend to keep custom by offering a half decent clean at a cheaper price.
Why should I believe that any of the splash and dash guys on here would be any different ?

Some people are very good at getting the work, but cr@p at doing it.
If I think back through the whole of this last year, I can only remember 1 complaint due to workmanship, and even that I don't believe was my fault ( I know, it never is ).  That was because the poxy gardener turned up just as i finished cleaning the windows and started blowing leaves everywhere, including onto the still wet windows.

I just don't get complaints, I do the job properly.

I have an impeccable reputation for quality which is why I haven't advertised for years. Most jobs I pick up are through recommendations, including nearly all my commercial.

My fondest memory of this job is when I won a contract for a large healthcare centre, probably my best job. Windows in and out every 5 weeks, gutters 4 times a year, fascia cleaning once a year, all well priced.
They got rid of the last company because they were 'splash an dash'. The windows always looked spottier then my chin at the height of puberty. Top Sills were green, half the insides were always missed.
My price was higher then theirs even though they were vat reg and I'm not, but I got the job.
Within 10 weeks of getting the contract I'd cleared the gutters, cleaned fascias/soffits and cleaned the windows twice. It looked like a new building.
On my third visit to clean the windows I was doing the insides when one of the lady admin girls showed me an email sent to all staff from the boss.
In short it read, ' I hope everyone has noticed what a fantastic job our new window cleaner has done in transforming the look of our building. Please accommodate him in any way you can so we can keep the building looking it's best and well maintained at all times'.
When you read stuff like that it's a good feeling and you know your doing the job properly.
I only got that job because one of my customers works there and put my name forward for the tendering process. Iv since picked up around a dozen new customers from the centre, as well as 2 new centres.
Gutters 4 times a year :o Who's gonna be making an appearance on Watchdog now ;D

The centre is in the sticks, surrounded by massive trees that just seem to be constantly shredding leaves.
They requested 4 times a year, who am I to complain ;)
Trees only shed ( not shred ) leaves in autumn, you are ripping them off you rogue ;D

Oh ok. So when is autumn nowadays? September? October? July?
A tree can be full of leaves in June before storm youratwat comes along and tears the thing apart.
When someone tells you they would like their gutters cleared 4 times a year at £500 a pop, you would turn it down I'm sure. ;)
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: nathankaye on December 09, 2016, 10:10:29 am
My six yr old son asked me last night if pirates are still alive. I told him yes but couldnt think of a suitable example to tell him.......i have one now lol  ;D ;D

Cant very well use my own example  ;D ;D lol
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: Smurf on December 09, 2016, 10:29:47 am
Checking & clearing gutterring/downspouts 4 x per year is not as uncommon as people may think it is. If that's what a client wants then so be it as there is generally a good reason for a more frequient service. Mind after saying that 2 x per year is more the norm though on buildings that get blocked quicker than most.
 
Title: Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
Post by: chris turner on December 09, 2016, 10:39:08 am
Checking & clearing gutterring/downspouts 4 x per year is not as uncommon as people may think it is. If that's what a client wants then so be it as there is generally a good reason for a more frequient service. Mind after saying that 2 x per year is more the norm though on buildings that get blocked quicker than most.

I use to clean a residential clients gutters everytime I cleaned the windows (6 weeks).  They had massive trees that shred ;D their pine needles all year round. There was literally piles of the things in the gutters everytime I cleaned the windows.
I never suggested they had their gutters cleared every 6 weeks, they requested it. Again who am I to say no a good paying customer.

It's a shame they moved to a much bigger house in  Virginia water and only want the gutters done twice a year now :'(