Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: duncan h on November 28, 2016, 08:13:53 pm
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Just had canvasser do his first day for me. He said they get £500 of work a day. OK I said.
I started him in a good area. After 3 hours he phones me saying area is no good. 2 of them got a total of £22 :)
Gave him another area 5 miles away. Phoned me at 7pm saying they did £60 and the worst they have ever done. He said Yorkshire was POO.
He was from Nottingham. Says they normally nock 300 doors and get £100 worth of work.
If It was that easy, I would have done it lmao
I can see him getting half my target and stopping. Funny how the prices dropped
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Who was it?
They told you they could get you £500 a day with just two of them canvassing?
London...maybe, Yorkshire...Nope
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Too many window cleaners in the area ??
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Had the same with well known canvasser ended up with loads of really dirty 1 0ffs that cost me 2x times the clean , would not use a canvasser again.
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I've had 3 canvassers up here in Yorkshire (wakefield) and they've all struggled and moaned.
1 really well known one manged only 100 quid on 10 days.
It's not easy at all round here, far too many shines. But the main problem is far too many cheap shiners.
One canvasser told me he'd seen half a dozen different cleaners in the same area on the same day and that he had interested people but they all wanted to pay a fiver.
When you talk to people on forums and they seem to be doing really well, canvassing 100 quid in a few hours, getting half a dozen enquires a week from website and walk up s you start to think what am I doing wrong,I canvass I leaflet my website ranks near the top but still struggle.
That's yorkshire for you, saturated with dinosaur cleaners that have been doing the same round for 20 years and still charging in 50p intervals.
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Can I ask a serious question? If it's as you say, why do it? Why not get a job?
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Can I ask a serious question? If it's as you say, why do it? Why not get a job?
There's no jobs that you can walk into round here than pay much more than minimum wage.
Secondly why would you give in? There's guys charging good money round here so why let the fact it's hard stop you. It's doable it's just a lot harder.
End of the day if you have x amount of customers at the prices you want then it's only a matter of time before you have them all at the prices you want just have to keep going long enough.
Besides how would you feel sat in a cosy job knowing you gave up on the challenge. I couldn't live with myself if I quit it would haunt me.
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One thing I would say to you Adam is check your spelling mistakes on your website.
This could potentially have an effect on your business
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Travel out further than Yorkshire then! Some of my best paying domestic work is half hour drive away.
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Adam . When you first started out , did you buy a round or did you canvas it up .
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that's not good at all are they a reliable out fit ?
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One thing I would say to you Adam is check your spelling mistakes on your website.
This could potentially have an effect on your business
Affect?
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Who are they?
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I have to agree with Adam, I'm in the Wakefield area too. There is a high saturation of window cleaners round here. I've grown my business more by referrals than canvassing. You have to just keep plodding away and if you're good and reliable you'll get the work. There's usually a guy who's retired or died that you can pick up after a couple of months.
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The Wakefield , West Yorkshire area is indeed saturated with window cleaners . There seems to be quite a few failed car valeters , carpet cleaner types giving it a go . Canvassing and leafleting and picking up a house here and there . Us dinosaur window cleaners who have had good rounds for years call em one house wonders . One house on a street spending more time driving than cleaning . Then they moan they can't get a decent round . Hilarious .
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The Wakefield , West Yorkshire area is indeed saturated with window cleaners . There seems to be quite a few failed car valeters , carpet cleaner types giving it a go . Canvassing and leafleting and picking up a house here and there . Us dinosaur window cleaners who have had good rounds for years call em one house wonders . One house on a street spending more time driving than cleaning . Then they moan they can't get a decent round . Hilarious .
Ha. That probably describes me to a tee i also do car valeting and carpet cleaning although im just going to do windows eventually once i have more work. I mostly do one house on a street and do about 15 houses a day. The difference is in charge a decent price (for wakefield nothing less than a tenner) so whilst my round isn't compact I can still turn over a decent amount. The only problem with the dinosaur guys who have been doing it years and have all the compact work is a lot of them are running around for a fiver a house. Which is fine, the turnover probably worka out similar but there's more than one way to skin a cat.
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The Wakefield , West Yorkshire area is indeed saturated with window cleaners . There seems to be quite a few failed car valeters , carpet cleaner types giving it a go . Canvassing and leafleting and picking up a house here and there . Us dinosaur window cleaners who have had good rounds for years call em one house wonders . One house on a street spending more time driving than cleaning . Then they moan they can't get a decent round . Hilarious .
Ha. That probably describes me to a tee i also do car valeting and carpet cleaning although im just going to do windows eventually once i have more work. I mostly do one house on a street and do about 15 houses a day. The difference is in charge a decent price (for wakefield nothing less than a tenner) so whilst my round isn't compact I can still turn over a decent amount. The only problem with the dinosaur guys who have been doing it years and have all the compact work is a lot of them are running around for a fiver a house. Which is fine, the turnover probably worka out similar but there's more than one way to skin a cat.
i very much doubt it mate.not many new window cleaners will be turning over 40k a year on their own(for not much more than part time hours) ;D
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I get them off ebay.
Thought, worth a try. They have done it years, He was ok other than only trying new estates and not sticking to one area.
My round is even more spread apart now :(
I would have to travel 1 hour to get out of Yorkshire. I don't want to do that.
Build my round from nearly all flyers. Each month it builds (usually) I get the odd bad month. Takes a long time as appose to canvasing.
I may try in January again, as December isn't the best time. You end up with the 1 clean for Christmas wonders
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I had best canvaser ever my dad he's still cleaning windows today 77 years old ;D
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My works always getting canvassed . Custys are always giving me leaflets and business cards . I never lose any .i think it's funny that some guy is wasting there money paying these canvassers . I actually phoned one up about 3 years back . I was selling a small round . Only about 20 houses but nice and compact and well priced . I only wanted the dinosaur Yorkshire price of 3 cleans for em . But the guy said thanks but no thanks he was paying a canvasser to get his work . Wtf .
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My works always getting canvassed . Custys are always giving me leaflets and business cards . I never lose any .i think it's funny that some guy is wasting there money paying these canvassers . I actually phoned one up about 3 years back . I was selling a small round . Only about 20 houses but nice and compact and well priced . I only wanted the dinosaur Yorkshire price of 3 cleans for em . But the guy said thanks but no thanks he was paying a canvasser to get his work . Wtf .
Well it depends on what you mean by well priced.
I would always prefer to canvass/pay a canvasser or leaflet because I'm quite picky about the work I want and doi g it that way allows me to get what I want.
Over the last few years I've seen plenty of rounds for sale but not of them suit me. I've seen rounds that are done solely trad, ones that are all cash collection or just underpriced. It's very hard to find a round to the way you work so buying a round would result in losing many anyway as we won't be a match.
I have some some requirements from my work as follows.
No collecting whatsoever
Water fed pole work
Must turn over at least £30 per hour
No set days/certain times/bad access/phone aheads etc
Canvassing works out about the same cost as buying all things considered but has the benefit of a tailored round.
I don't want to buy another window cleaners habits and ways of working I want to mould the customers to how I do things.
Canvassing gets the bulk of the work, then continual leafletting refines it.
My way of thinking is probably totally different to yours which is the great thing about this business.