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Title: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Shrek on November 28, 2016, 03:51:24 pm
Hi all ,

Iv just read this story about being fined £150 for having a no smoking sign in the van . It's the first time Iv heard of it , think il order some just in case.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3978294/Self-employed-workman-70-fined-150-not-displaying-No-Smoking-sign-van-TWO-times-penalty-caught-smoking.html

Anyone else been pulled for not having one?
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Plankton on November 28, 2016, 04:25:16 pm
Someone told me that he and another person were fined for smoking in the van. If it's your own vehicle surely you don't need a sign and you can smoke if it's only used for work by yourself?
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: 8weekly on November 28, 2016, 04:51:31 pm
Someone told me that he and another person were fined for smoking in the van. If it's your own vehicle surely you don't need a sign and you can smoke if it's only used for work by yourself?
That is correct. I think.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Stoots on November 28, 2016, 04:52:31 pm
I know it's law if your employing but I didn't know that !

Surely the bell end of an officer could have had a little discretion.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Smurf on November 28, 2016, 05:01:08 pm
The van I'm using at the mo has no smoking signs in the cab as is an x british gas van but I still smoke in it.
So where do I stand if the rossers see me smoking in it and does that mean I can still get fined?
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Smurf on November 28, 2016, 05:09:39 pm
Don't worry folks as I just found out I can still smoke in me van apparently as no one else uses it.
https://www.gov.uk/smoking-at-work-the-law
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Plankton on November 28, 2016, 05:14:01 pm
When I was driving hgv's I wondered how some folk could drive into a depot (sainsburys) smoking. Turned out owner drivers can smoke away in there cab to their lungs content. Being a non smoker for around 15 years I can't stand the smell never mind the smoke and I would argue that you shouldn't be allowed to smoke in cars or in public. 
However I don't mind the smell of "soft black" stuff so I'd make that exempt from anything.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Smurf on November 28, 2016, 05:24:27 pm
I thought that story was rather funny as neither of them smoked  ;D

One of them probably upset the traffic warden whilst parking on double yellows if the truth be known and/or was just jobs worth out to get them somehow who knows.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: SeanK on November 28, 2016, 07:45:35 pm
You need the sticker doesn't matter if you don't smoke or are the only user of the van, Smurf be careful if your vehicle is
insured for more than one driver.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Tosh on November 28, 2016, 07:50:48 pm
Ridiculous, you couldn’t make it up.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Smurf on November 29, 2016, 12:45:34 pm
You need the sticker doesn't matter if you don't smoke or are the only user of the van, Smurf be careful if your vehicle is
insured for more than one driver.

Ta but I'm the only insured driver on the policy and work on my own so should be ok  ;)
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Shrek on November 29, 2016, 01:10:10 pm
Iv just ordered 2 for 99p of eBay  ;D
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: SeanK on November 29, 2016, 02:11:54 pm
You need the sticker doesn't matter if you don't smoke or are the only user of the van, Smurf be careful if your vehicle is
insured for more than one driver.

Ta but I'm the only insured driver on the policy and work on my own so should be ok  ;)

You should be, the crafty jobsworth that stopped me a few years back would have done me if he had found evidence that I had
been smoking as my wife is also on my insurance, he even checked the ashtray. (roll eyes)
Luckily I already had a sticker.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Smurf on November 29, 2016, 03:17:03 pm
You need the sticker doesn't matter if you don't smoke or are the only user of the van, Smurf be careful if your vehicle is
insured for more than one driver.

Ta but I'm the only insured driver on the policy and work on my own so should be ok  ;)


You should be, the crafty jobsworth that stopped me a few years back would have done me if he had found evidence that I had
been smoking as my wife is also on my insurance, he even checked the ashtray. (roll eyes)
Luckily I already had a sticker.

I haven't got an ashtray anymore  as it broke what with the weight of the butts in it  ;D
When the law first came in loads got done but now traffic cops have better things to do than stopping vans because someone is smoking in it.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: ascjim on November 29, 2016, 04:24:24 pm
I think it doesn't matter if your the only one using the van.

I just brought some stickers  ;D
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Plankton on November 29, 2016, 07:44:48 pm
You need the sticker doesn't matter if you don't smoke or are the only user of the van, Smurf be careful if your vehicle is
insured for more than one driver.

Ta but I'm the only insured driver on the policy and work on my own so should be ok  ;)

You should be, the crafty jobsworth that stopped me a few years back would have done me if he had found evidence that I had
been smoking as my wife is also on my insurance, he even checked the ashtray. (roll eyes)
Luckily I already had a sticker.
No chance any jobs worth is inspecting the inside of my motor. I'll tell them to fook off! And there's no chance they can request your insurance details.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: SeanK on November 29, 2016, 08:47:59 pm
You need the sticker doesn't matter if you don't smoke or are the only user of the van, Smurf be careful if your vehicle is
insured for more than one driver.

Ta but I'm the only insured driver on the policy and work on my own so should be ok  ;)

You should be, the crafty jobsworth that stopped me a few years back would have done me if he had found evidence that I had
been smoking as my wife is also on my insurance, he even checked the ashtray. (roll eyes)
Luckily I already had a sticker.
No chance any jobs worth is inspecting the inside of my motor. I'll tell them to fook off! And there's no chance they can request your insurance details.

When I say jobsworth I mean the police.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 29, 2016, 08:59:08 pm
should fine all drivers when smoking and driving  ;D
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Og on November 30, 2016, 06:59:16 am
Smoking doesn't project a good image really. If someone isn't competent enough to look after their health, then how can they be competent enough to look after the cleaning of windows?
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Shrek on November 30, 2016, 07:02:57 am
Smoking doesn't project a good image really. If someone isn't competent enough to look after their health, then how can they be competent enough to look after the cleaning of windows?

What a ridiculous statement, if someone smokes then they're not competent enough to clean windows  ::)roll
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: bobplum on November 30, 2016, 07:59:34 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1038301/Painter-given-30-fine-smoking-work--van.html, this has been going on since 2008, its just that they dont push it
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Og on November 30, 2016, 08:04:36 pm
Smoking doesn't project a good image really. If someone isn't competent enough to look after their health, then how can they be competent enough to look after the cleaning of windows?

What a ridiculous statement, if someone smokes then they're not competent enough to clean windows  ::)roll

If people have little respect for their bodies, then they're likely to have less for their work.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: *Hector* on November 30, 2016, 08:13:33 pm
should fine all drivers when smoking and driving  ;D

And half blind old cyclists who ride into the side of a white van.....  :P :P

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 30, 2016, 08:21:21 pm
should fine all drivers when smoking and driving  ;D

And half blind old cyclists who ride into the side of a white van.....  :P :P

 ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D it pays well
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: steve rix on November 30, 2016, 08:22:03 pm
Smoking doesn't project a good image really. If someone isn't competent enough to look after their health, then how can they be competent enough to look after the cleaning of windows?

What a ridiculous statement, if someone smokes then they're not competent enough to clean windows  ::)roll

If people have little respect for their bodies, then they're likely to have less for their work.



And this from a bloke with fried fish fingers as hi picture!!
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Keiron Bradley on December 05, 2016, 09:11:35 pm
I feel compelled to make a very rare post in reply to smokers not being competent to clean windows.
Where do you start with such stupidity?
All I'll say is Winston Churchill smoked like a trooper and he was competent enough to save this country from invasion,defy Nazi tyranny and be instrumental in the eventual defeat of Hitler...amongst other things. Is that competent enough for you?
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 06, 2016, 08:36:07 am
I feel compelled to make a very rare post in reply to smokers not being competent to clean windows.
Where do you start with such stupidity?
All I'll say is Winston Churchill smoked like a trooper and he was competent enough to save this country from invasion,defy Nazi tyranny and be instrumental in the eventual defeat of Hitler...amongst other things. Is that competent enough for you?

In the 1940's and 50's "Everyone" smoked. Didn't know any better.

Different time.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Tom White on December 06, 2016, 08:43:59 am
Smokers smell.  :(
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Smurf on December 06, 2016, 10:52:53 am
Smokers smell.  :(

Doing 40 plus houses a day I bet you would too  ;D
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Soupy on December 06, 2016, 11:08:02 am
Smokers smell.  :(

So do joggers.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: 8weekly on December 06, 2016, 12:58:28 pm
I feel compelled to make a very rare post in reply to smokers not being competent to clean windows.
Where do you start with such stupidity?
All I'll say is Winston Churchill smoked like a trooper and he was competent enough to save this country from invasion,defy Nazi tyranny and be instrumental in the eventual defeat of Hitler...amongst other things. Is that competent enough for you?
He was crap at cleaning windows though.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Tom White on December 06, 2016, 03:53:00 pm
Smokers smell.  :(

So do joggers.

Shhhhhhh stinky. 

Go smoke a fAg, outside, around the back by the bins, where you belong.
Title: Re: No smoking sign in van -fined £150
Post by: Tom White on December 06, 2016, 03:54:45 pm
I feel compelled to make a very rare post in reply to smokers not being competent to clean windows.
Where do you start with such stupidity?

But paying nearly a tenner to smoke a packet of cigarettes, that make you smell, impotent, and gives you cancer isn't stupid?

 ;D