Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: kevinquinn on November 19, 2016, 05:21:17 pm
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Made this today with about £45.00 worth of stuff. Hose reel slightly bent so chain came off a few times. But in new reel will be fine.
https://youtu.be/H3ZeWSpBWKo
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Cool.
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Looks a winner.
What parts & from where?
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Looks a winner.
What parts & from where?
Just old stuff i had laying about. Assoon as ive perfected it ill make plans available. Tested it on 24v battery, MAD :)!!!!!!
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It wouldn't cost £45 with new parts though
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It wouldn't cost £45 with new parts though
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Motor
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/401051626914?lpid=122&chn=ps&adgroupid=36821860238&rlsatarget=pla-264788864056&adtype=pla&poi&googleloc=1006506&device=m&campaignid=692001543&crdt=0&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F710-134428-41853-0%252F2%253Fmtid%253D1673%2526kwid%253D1%2526crlp%253D155548592290_563391%2526itemid%253D401051626914%2526targetid%253D264788864056%2526device%253Dm%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253a%25252f%25252fwww.ebay.co.uk%25252fitm%25252flike%25252f401051626914%25253flpid%25253d122%252526chn%25253Dps%2526adtype%253Dpla%2526googleloc%253D1006506%2526poi%253D%2526campaignid%253D692001543%2526adgroupid%253D36821860238%2526rlsatarget%253Dpla-264788864056%2526gclid%253DCjwKEAiAjcDBBRCJxouz9fWHynwSJADaJg9BAUcpn8zI6Mh0G6uV3SuoTnjzcXsz5j9u4hMmPnvQEBoCZj_w_wcB%2526srcrot%253D710-134428-41853-0%2526rvr_id%253D1126161854476
Cog
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-E-Scooter-Bike-Chain-Wheel-Rim-Drive-Sprocket-6mm-25H-80T-80-Tooth-Cog-/192019078880?nav=SEARCH
Chain is about £6 so your right not £45 its less
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Love it!
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This vid made me chuckle at the end of the vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwRww0u9aM
Also looks near identical to another brand being sold in the UK don't you think? ::)roll
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how do you power it up, power & controller. is it from leisure battery
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This vid made me chuckle at the end of the vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwRww0u9aM
Also looks near identical to another brand being sold in the UK don't you think? ::)roll
Its good for British industry.
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how do you power it up, power & controller. is it from leisure battery
Probably a second leisure battery would be best as that motor draws a fair wack of current.
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I have another car battery in back of van linked to my main battery. If i built I could sell for £300 Inc vat an delivery. But I may just get the fixings manafacturerd . Either way I'll put full instructions with video on line. It's simple to make . Those motors are really tough and last year's. If they did need replacing what's £23?
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Nice one. ;)
looks like the identical motor to me as used in the link I posted also the waterworks one
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This vid made me chuckle at the end of the vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwRww0u9aM
Also looks near identical to another brand being sold in the UK don't you think? ::)roll
Its good for British industry.
Are they made in Britain though Spruce?
Like most things thesedays they are maufactured in China as well as those motors too
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on the first link @ top , he dosent look too upset as someone apears to have nicked his pole from the end of his reel ;D ;D
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Nice one. ;)
looks like the identical motor to me as used in the link I posted also the waterworks one
It's exact same motor and chain. In couple of weeks I'll add remote control. This was just experiment with stuff I had knocking about. Soon as I'm let loose in maplins I'll developed something good that can be built for under £100
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Nice one. ;)
looks like the identical motor to me as used in the link I posted also the waterworks one
It's exact same motor and chain. In couple of weeks I'll add remote control. This was just experiment with stuff I had knocking about. Soon as I'm let loose in maplins I'll developed something good that can be built for under £100
Will look foward to it and I'm sure others will too ;)
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on the first link @ top , he dosent look too upset as someone apears to have nicked his pole from the end of his reel ;D ;D
In the link I posted was more to do with how the chap got caught out when it came to the end and took him forward into the reel which made me chuckle ;D
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This vid made me chuckle at the end of the vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwRww0u9aM
Also looks near identical to another brand being sold in the UK don't you think? ::)roll
Its good for British industry.
Are they made in Britain though Spruce?
Like most things thesedays they are maufactured in China as well as those motors too
Now that's an interesting twist Smurf. I just thought that Jordan would have made them in a workshop in the Corby area.
I thought that Jordan was supplying WCW.
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Those motors are 24volt. Do you use 2 batteries and cross leads over?
You couldn't run a split charger from main battery as it would be 2 volt.
Jordens are 12/24 volt motors. Thought they cost more than that
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They run fine on 12 volt . I tried on 24 but it reeled it in way to fast. I've only a switch at moment. If I decide to run 24v I'll use a trigger switch you squeeze to control speed.
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I run it off of twelve volt and it works fine. I tested it on 24v great if you want 100 metres in 10 seconds but if hose is around corner you can't see if any kid or old lady is about . It really is that fast it could pull someone over.
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This vid made me chuckle at the end of the vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwRww0u9aM
Also looks near identical to another brand being sold in the UK don't you think? ::)roll
Its good for British industry.
Are they made in Britain though Spruce?
Like most things thesedays they are maufactured in China as well as those motors too
Now that's an interesting twist Smurf. I just thought that Jordan would have made them in a workshop in the Corby area.
I thought that Jordan was supplying WCW.
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Spruce the big giveaway is this vid of taking it out of the box https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMlmP43aQvg
Pause the vid after about 9 seconds in so you can see clearly the paper on the lid he discards very quickly and you will see it has chinese writing on it.
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This vid made me chuckle at the end of the vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwRww0u9aM
Also looks near identical to another brand being sold in the UK don't you think? ::)roll
Its good for British industry.
Are they made in Britain though Spruce?
Like most things thesedays they are maufactured in China as well as those motors too
Now that's an interesting twist Smurf. I just thought that Jordan would have made them in a workshop in the Corby area.
I thought that Jordan was supplying WCW.
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Spruce the big giveaway is this vid of taking it out of the box https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMlmP43aQvg
Pause the vid after about 9 seconds in so you can see clearly the paper on the lid he discards very quickly and you will see it has chinese writing on it.
Behave that's the leaflet you get with his telephone number on it. You going blind as well? ::)roll ::)roll
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This vid made me chuckle at the end of the vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwRww0u9aM
Also looks near identical to another brand being sold in the UK don't you think? ::)roll
Its good for British industry.
Are they made in Britain though Spruce?
Like most things thesedays they are maufactured in China as well as those motors too
Now that's an interesting twist Smurf. I just thought that Jordan would have made them in a workshop in the Corby area.
I thought that Jordan was supplying WCW.
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Spruce the big giveaway is this vid of taking it out of the box https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMlmP43aQvg
Pause the vid after about 9 seconds in so you can see clearly the paper on the lid he discards very quickly and you will see it has chinese writing on it.
Behave that's the leaflet you get with his telephone number on it. You going blind as well? ::)roll ::)roll
;D ;D ;D
The box has got Window cleaning Warehouse on the side at 27 secs.
The brochure in the box is the same as this one
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1479672176_CB6ynxzWMAAPtRc.jpg)
The website on a 19th April 2015 states that PoweUp is made in the UK
https://plus.google.com/+Waterworkswindowcleaningcorby/posts/WxsUqYaWWzg
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This vid made me chuckle at the end of the vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwRww0u9aM
Also looks near identical to another brand being sold in the UK don't you think? ::)roll
Its good for British industry.
Are they made in Britain though Spruce?
Like most things thesedays they are maufactured in China as well as those motors too
Now that's an interesting twist Smurf. I just thought that Jordan would have made them in a workshop in the Corby area.
I thought that Jordan was supplying WCW.
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Spruce the big giveaway is this vid of taking it out of the box https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMlmP43aQvg
Pause the vid after about 9 seconds in so you can see clearly the paper on the lid he discards very quickly and you will see it has chinese writing on it.
Behave that's the leaflet you get with his telephone number on it. You going blind as well? ::)roll ::)roll
Mines made in Bedford in the back of a Peugeot :)
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;D ;D
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I wounder who makes these identical reels then without the waterworks sticker....made in the uk hmmmm I don't think so ;D
https://glazenwasserswinkel.nl/product/meerprijs-elektrische-haspel-op-nieuw-systeem/
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I wounder who makes these identical reels then without the waterworks sticker....made in the uk hmmmm I don't think so ;D
https://glazenwasserswinkel.nl/product/meerprijs-elektrische-haspel-op-nieuw-systeem/
I would imagine the hose reel comes from other climes.
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I think I read on FB that to two companies have an agreement as waterworks sell their tanks
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Here is link to a remote for £45 electric hose reel. It has a range of 200 metres can contril 4 things like pump and hose reel and whatever you want. Cost under £10 delivered. Mate has one and raves about it.
So a motor £23
Chain an sprocket about £6/12
Remote under £10
Hole you all save ££££££
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-12V-10A-RELAY-1-2-3-4-CH-WIRELESS-REMOTE-CONTROL-SWITCH-TRANSMITTER-RECEIVER-/131793343790
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Perfected the electric hose reel now. The chain isnt coming off and ive added a remote control with a range of 200 metres. It hasfojr channels, one for reel one for pump. Im gonna try to use the third channel for an automated message, STEP AWAY FROM THE VAN!
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Cool.
Will have a lol into this, might be a project for Christmas hols!
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I would have thought you could use a 24v supply with a simple voltage regulator switch to control speed then an on/off via remote.
Also a bigger cog on the reel would give a larger ratio slowing it down
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I would have thought you could use a 24v supply with a simple voltage regulator switch to control speed then an on/off via remote.
That was first attempt. How would I charge the 24v? My battery is linked to my car battery and charges via that. At moment the 12v reels in 100m in 30 seconds. If it went faster I'm worried it could pull someone or thing over if it's around a corner and I'm using remote.
Also a bigger cog on the reel would give a larger ratio slowing it down
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Here is link to a remote for £45 electric hose reel. It has a range of 200 metres can contril 4 things like pump and hose reel and whatever you want. Cost under £10 delivered. Mate has one and raves about it.
So a motor £23
Chain an sprocket about £6/12
Remote under £10
Hole you all save ££££££
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-12V-10A-RELAY-1-2-3-4-CH-WIRELESS-REMOTE-CONTROL-SWITCH-TRANSMITTER-RECEIVER-/131793343790
that link pal which option did you buy as ive had the type 1 and 2 but burnt out as the little relay was only rated at 10 amp then i ordered the type 3 and you can see the pic of the relays are rated at 20amp but i could never get it working properly as every time i turned the supply feed off and then turned it back on the reel would start working away without me pressing the remote!
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I brought type 3. Mainly for the key fobs. I can make the relay myself for about a fiver.
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I wounder who makes these identical reels then without the waterworks sticker....made in the uk hmmmm I don't think so ;D
https://glazenwasserswinkel.nl/product/meerprijs-elektrische-haspel-op-nieuw-systeem/
I wondered what this was https://glazenwasserswinkel.nl/product/rvs-slanggeleider/ and found this on youtube which looks useful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZYmQVX833A
Still don't know what the RVS Slanggeleider does thought.
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I wounder who makes these identical reels then without the waterworks sticker....made in the uk hmmmm I don't think so ;D
https://glazenwasserswinkel.nl/product/meerprijs-elektrische-haspel-op-nieuw-systeem/
I wondered what this was https://glazenwasserswinkel.nl/product/rvs-slanggeleider/ and found this on youtube which looks useful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZYmQVX833A
Still don't know what the RVS Slanggeleider does thought.
RVS Slanggeleider
€ 98,50
Deze RVS slanggeleider voorkomt beschadigingen aan randen en zijkanten van jouw bus en zorgt er ook voor dat de slang niet vastloopt tussen de deur en de wagen. Zelf eenvoudig te monteren aan de zijkant van het haspel of op de bovenplaat van het systeem.
RVS vakwerk in deze kleine oplage kan helaas niet scherper worden geprijsd, maar gaat wel 100 jaar mee…
These stainless steel hose guide prevents damage to the edges and sides of your bus and also ensures that the hose is not jammed between the door and the car. Itself easy to mount on the side of the reel or on the upper plate of the system.
Stainless steel timber in this limited edition can unfortunately not be competitively-priced, but is not so bad 100 years ...
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Thanks Smurf, I was too lazy to look for a translator on the laptop :)
Had a feeling it would be something like that but it's probably crap and certainly not work that amount. €98 for a keyring!
Just clicked the link on my new android phone and it throws up "translate this page".
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A bull ring on an extenadable rod sounds like a very expensive bull poop idea to me too.
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I brought type 3. Mainly for the key fobs. I can make the relay myself for about a fiver.
hi mate any chance you can tell me how u wired it up ;)
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I brought type 3. Mainly for the key fobs. I can make the relay myself for about a fiver.
hi mate any chance you can tell me how u wired it up ;)
Remote Switch
You just replace a switch with the remote relay...
Hose reel
Negative wire to negative on the battery
Then a switch or relay between the red positive wire and the positive battery
If you swap motor red to negative on battery then it will spin the other way
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Perfected the electric hose reel now. The chain isnt coming off and ive added a remote control with a range of 200 metres. It hasfojr channels, one for reel one for pump. Im gonna try to use the third channel for an automated message, STEP AWAY FROM THE VAN!
How did you stop the chain coming off?
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Perfected the electric hose reel now. The chain isnt coming off and ive added a remote control with a range of 200 metres. It hasfojr channels, one for reel one for pump. Im gonna try to use the third channel for an automated message, STEP AWAY FROM THE VAN!
How did you stop the chain coming off?
I got some waste pipe, the sort that goes under the sink. It fits perfectly over spindle. So i cut two bits to li e uo chain with cog better. It hasnt come off once now. Im building another thus week ive got a new hose reel and im buying new motor cog and chain. I am considering making it a sealed unit and building rollers into front.
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Which cog did you get the one in the link has four holes and hose reel has only three.
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Perfected the electric hose reel now. The chain isnt coming off and ive added a remote control with a range of 200 metres. It hasfojr channels, one for reel one for pump. Im gonna try to use the third channel for an automated message, STEP AWAY FROM THE VAN!
How did you stop the chain coming off?
I got some waste pipe, the sort that goes under the sink. It fits perfectly over spindle. So i cut two bits to li e uo chain with cog better. It hasnt come off once now. Im building another thus week ive got a new hose reel and im buying new motor cog and chain. I am considering making it a sealed unit and building rollers into front.
Do you have a pic please? Not working in my mental picture of it. Thanks.
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I brought type 3. Mainly for the key fobs. I can make the relay myself for about a fiver.
hi mate any chance you can tell me how u wired it up ;)
Remote Switch
You just replace a switch with the remote relay...
Hose reel
Negative wire to negative on the battery
Then a switch or relay between the red positive wire and the positive battery
If you swap motor red to negative on battery then it will spin the other way
cheers mate you dont have a photo of your wiring do you as simple as it is,my remote when i cut the feed to it when im finishing for the day and then switching back on in morning it fires up straight away so i have press the remote button to turn it off then its ok for the day, but its like plugging a tv in to the wall and it just comes on without switching it on if you understand me lol!
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Which cog did you get the one in the link has four holes and hose reel has only three.
I drilled another he on hise reel.
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I brought type 3. Mainly for the key fobs. I can make the relay myself for about a fiver.
hi mate any chance you can tell me how u wired it up ;)
Ill take so e oics over weekend. Im doing another reel but with all new parts. Using chrom e chaine and orange sprocket on black reel. PIMP MY REEL 😁
Remote Switch
You just replace a switch with the remote relay...
Hose reel
Negative wire to negative on the battery
Then a switch or relay between the red positive wire and the positive battery
If you swap motor red to negative on battery then it will spin the other way
cheers mate you dont have a photo of your wiring do you as simple as it is,my remote when i cut the feed to it when im finishing for the day and then switching back on in morning it fires up straight away so i have press the remote button to turn it off then its ok for the day, but its like plugging a tv in to the wall and it just comes on without switching it on if you understand me lol!
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Love this economical but effective idea. I'm ok with the electric connections, but can't see how the cog is fitted to the reel ( I can see its bolted, but to what ?). Also you have the plastic bushes ( from what I can see ) on the outside of the reel, wheras these are on the inside on most reels, how did you compensate the reel not moving from side to side ?. Definitely wanna give this a go.
cheers ;)
...and what 6mm links ( number ) chain did you use ?
Just seen there are 3 holes in the side of the reel. Did you have to drill 4 new holes in the cog or were the holes in line with the cog holes already ? ( which I doubt ? )
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Love this economical but effective idea. I'm ok with the electric connections, but can't see how the cog is fitted to the reel ( I can see its bolted, but to what ?). Also you have the plastic bushes ( from what I can see ) on the outside of the reel, wheras these are on the inside on most reels, how did you compensate the reel not moving from side to side ?. Definitely wanna give this a go.
cheers ;)
...and what 6mm links ( number ) chain did you use ?
Just seen there are 3 holes in the side of the reel. Did you have to drill 4 new holes in the cog or were the holes in line with the cog holes already ? ( which I doubt ? )
You have 2 choices Fieldsy. ;D
You either dill 3 holes in the cog to line up with the hose reel hub, or drill 4 holes in the hub to match up with the cog.
I would imagine the decision which way to go will be easier made when you have both components together.
The length of the chain would be determined by the position of the motor in your setup. Links are easily removed to make the chain the right length and joined with the master link.
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Love this economical but effective idea. I'm ok with the electric connections, but can't see how the cog is fitted to the reel ( I can see its bolted, but to what ?). Also you have the plastic bushes ( from what I can see ) on the outside of the reel, wheras these are on the inside on most reels, how did you compensate the reel not moving from side to side ?. Definitely wanna give this a go.
cheers ;)
I couldnt have put it better myself. However the reel in the video i brought second hand and only recently noticed that the black spacers wege on wrong. I since changed them and it was almost perfect. I had some waste pipe and cut two bits just so the reel didnt move from side to side. I drilled another hole in the hose reel and it works perfectly. I used some astic washers about 5 mm high that space the cog away from reel and just secured the motor to van floor.
Im going to design something tho that lines up with hose reel holes so it can just slot in and you attach the cog to it. Ill get it machined by a friend and make available at cost if needed.
...and what 6mm links ( number ) chain did you use ?
Just seen there are 3 holes in the side of the reel. Did you have to drill 4 new holes in the cog or were the holes in line with the cog holes already ? ( which I doubt ? )
You have 2 choices Fieldsy. ;D
You either dill 3 holes in the cog to line up with the hose reel hub, or drill 4 holes in the hub to match up with the cog.
I would imagine the decision which way to go will be easier made when you have both components together.
The length of the chain would be determined by the position of the motor in your setup. Links are easily removed to make the chain the right length and joined with the master link.
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Thanks Spruce and Shotokan. I was confused by the fact only one more hole was drilled in the reel, ( I drilled another hole in the hose reel and it works perfectly.) when infact the 3 that are already there produce a triangular template wheras the cog would have 4 holes with a square template ??
I was thinking about it today and wondered how you kept the cog from the reel and obviously the spacer makes sense.
So, if the " bushes" were on wrong, does that mean the plastic water pipe isn't needed and the bushes can infact stay where they are on the inside of the reel.
Thanks for all the info ;) .........gonna get this set up :)
cheers Fieldsy
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You probably don't need the spacers on the spindle if the reel isn't bent mine was old and warped. I've a new hose reel now so I'll see with thAt
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...but won't the cog be tight against framework of the reel once tightened, as the three holes are recessed ( well they are on my reel) and won't be much space for the chain to sit on the cog ?. I'm just trying to cover all eventualities...lol ...not trying to pick faults...I think its briiliant !!!!. Can't wait to give it a try :)
Going by this, it looks like all they have done is put an extra nut behind each securing nut to space it away from the reel. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWc-ktgY_7k
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...but won't the cog be tight against framework of the reel once tightened, as the three holes are recessed ( well they are on my reel) and won't be much space for the chain to sit on the cog ?. I'm just trying to cover all eventualities...lol ...not trying to pick faults...I think its briiliant !!!!. Can't wait to give it a try :)
Going by this, it looks like all they have done is put an extra nut behind each securing nut to space it away from the reel. :)
I used plastic spacers https://www.amazon.co.uk/Plastic-Nylon-Spacers-diameter-projects/dp/B00F5ZQVOE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1481230623&sr=8-2&keywords=plastic+spacer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWc-ktgY_7k
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Thanks shotokan, gonna get all the bits and give it a go ;). Thanks for all the info. Sorry m8, still a bit mystified, did you drill three new holes in the cog........or one as you suggested in the reel ??
cheers fieldsy
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...but won't the cog be tight against framework of the reel once tightened, as the three holes are recessed ( well they are on my reel) and won't be much space for the chain to sit on the cog ?. I'm just trying to cover all eventualities...lol ...not trying to pick faults...I think its briiliant !!!!. Can't wait to give it a try :)
Going by this, it looks like all they have done is put an extra nut behind each securing nut to space it away from the reel. :)
I just double checked, i drled four new holes in hub to match cog
I used plastic spacers https://www.amazon.co.uk/Plastic-Nylon-Spacers-diameter-projects/dp/B00F5ZQVOE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1481230623&sr=8-2&keywords=plastic+spacer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWc-ktgY_7k
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I just double checked, i drled four new holes in hub to match cog
Thanks ;)
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Just about to order the bits and I've seen a 12v 100 watt motor.
Wonder how that would compare?
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lolJust about to order the bits and I've seen a 12v 100 watt motor.
Wonder how that would compare?
I would stick with 24v on a 12 v battery. Motor will last longer as it's on half power
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Same here, I've just ordered all the bits. I've gone for a winch remote as I think it will have a stop/start function ( as in depress to wind in and release to stop ). These are the bits I've ordered. My van has a 12v auxillary in the back so gonna connect to this via a cigarette lighter ( just got to find out if its a constant live feed, rather than having ignition on. Will let you know how I get on. The only thing quizzing me at the moment is how you got the cog directly centred on the reel to stop it going out of concentric.
I might be lucky as the cog I've ordered has 3 pre drilled holes in a triangular template, same as reel, but I very much doubt they will line up...lol, That would be asking too much ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162242654285?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=461221616473&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162295001499?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401051626914?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301400291143?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=600371081188&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331880249230?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
nice little project :) About £48.00 in total, and went for the gold " bling " chain cos I live in Essex ;) ;D pmsl
Also dumping this 100m of 15mm thermobore as its a bloody pain in the arse, too much stress on the reel and a nightmare to reel in and out. We use cold water anyway and thought the thermobore would be good for anti kink.... but its not !!
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Same here, I've just ordered all the bits. I've gone for a winch remote as I think it will have a stop/start function ( as in depress to wind in and release to stop ). These are the bits I've ordered. My van has a 12v auxillary in the back so gonna connect to this via a cigarette lighter ( just got to find out if its a constant live feed, rather than having ignition on. Will let you know how I get on. The only thing quizzing me at the moment is how you got the cog directly centred on the reel to stop it going out of concentric.
I might be lucky as the cog I've ordered has 3 pre drilled holes in a triangular template, same as reel, but I very much doubt they will line up...lol, That would be asking too much ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162242654285?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=461221616473&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162295001499?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401051626914?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301400291143?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=600371081188&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331880249230?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
nice little project :) About £48.00 in total, and went for the gold " bling " chain cos I live in Essex ;) ;D pmsl
Also dumping this 100m of 15mm thermobore as its a bloody pain in the arse, too much stress on the reel and a nightmare to reel in and out. We use cold water anyway and thought the thermobore would be good for anti kink.... but its not !!
I just offered up the cog to reel and used a centre punch to mark where I wanted the 4 new holes. It works perfectly and I saved 400£
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you must have hit dead centre by chance ?, as if it was out slightly wouldn't it take an oval ( like a cam ) line rather than a circular....or am I reading too much into it ?....lol.
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Same here, I've just ordered all the bits. I've gone for a winch remote as I think it will have a stop/start function ( as in depress to wind in and release to stop ). These are the bits I've ordered. My van has a 12v auxillary in the back so gonna connect to this via a cigarette lighter ( just got to find out if its a constant live feed, rather than having ignition on. Will let you know how I get on. The only thing quizzing me at the moment is how you got the cog directly centred on the reel to stop it going out of concentric.
I might be lucky as the cog I've ordered has 3 pre drilled holes in a triangular template, same as reel, but I very much doubt they will line up...lol, That would be asking too much ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162242654285?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=461221616473&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162295001499?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401051626914?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301400291143?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=600371081188&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331880249230?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
nice little project :) About £48.00 in total, and went for the gold " bling " chain cos I live in Essex ;) ;D pmsl
Also dumping this 100m of 15mm thermobore as its a bloody pain in the arse, too much stress on the reel and a nightmare to reel in and out. We use cold water anyway and thought the thermobore would be good for anti kink.... but its not !!
I would be very careful going down this route.
The plate (sticker) on the motor says that the motor draws 14 amps. Cigarette lighter plugs aren't rated for this amperage, usually 10 amps. Hopefully it will be protected with a fuse. Some auxiliary power points may be protected by a 15 amp fuse.
If you look at the setup made by Jason King which this is a copy of, he uses heavy duty cable with connections directly to a purpose battery. You don't want the joy of making a cheaper diy unit replaced with the cost of rectifying a burnt out wiring harness/burnt out van.
Please don't think this is a little OTT. Many Vauxhall Corsa and Zifira's owners have had their cars go up in smoke due to a fault on the air blower motor - that takes much less current than this motor.
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Same here, I've just ordered all the bits. I've gone for a winch remote as I think it will have a stop/start function ( as in depress to wind in and release to stop ). These are the bits I've ordered. My van has a 12v auxillary in the back so gonna connect to this via a cigarette lighter ( just got to find out if its a constant live feed, rather than having ignition on. Will let you know how I get on. The only thing quizzing me at the moment is how you got the cog directly centred on the reel to stop it going out of concentric.
I might be lucky as the cog I've ordered has 3 pre drilled holes in a triangular template, same as reel, but I very much doubt they will line up...lol, That would be asking too much ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162242654285?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=461221616473&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162295001499?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401051626914?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301400291143?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=600371081188&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331880249230?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
nice little project :) About £48.00 in total, and went for the gold " bling " chain cos I live in Essex ;) ;D pmsl
Also dumping this 100m of 15mm thermobore as its a bloody pain in the arse, too much stress on the reel and a nightmare to reel in and out. We use cold water anyway and thought the thermobore would be good for anti kink.... but its not !!
I would be very careful going down this route.
The plate (sticker) on the motor says that the motor draws 14 amps. Cigarette lighter plugs aren't rated for this amperage, usually 10 amps. Hopefully it will be protected with a fuse. Some auxiliary power points may be protected by a 15 amp fuse.
If you look at the setup made by Jason King which this is a copy of, he uses heavy duty cable with connections directly to a purpose battery. You don't want the joy of making a cheaper diy unit replaced with the cost of rectifying a burnt out wiring harness/burnt out van.
Please don't think this is a little OTT. Many Vauxhall Corsa and Zifira's owners have had their cars go up in smoke due to a fault on the air blower motor - that takes much less current than this motor.
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I used heavy duty wire and also have an inline fuse
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you must have hit dead centre by chance ?, as if it was out slightly wouldn't it take an oval ( like a cam ) line rather than a circular....or am I reading too much into it ?....lol.
Probably so but I doubt a very slightly off centre cog would throw it out enough to as there will likely be some natural flex in the chain.
You could use an oval cog if you had a detailer type system to take the chain tension if required. But yes too much thinking just put the cog central
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I don't think your going OTT at all m8, thanks for the input. My combo is a ex british gas van. The 12v socket is an auxillary extra to the standard lighter socket. The ex gas vans seem to be very well modified with extra specs, and I'm assuming they would cover all eventualities in anything they added to the van, so hopefully a fuse is in place. This particular socket has a length of wire and conduit around it, so I can easily add another fuse if there is not one in the system. Thanks for the advice. What inline fuse ampage would you use ?.
What I actually didn't explain was that I would use a cigarette lighter type plug in the 12v socket and wire this to winch receiver.
cheers fieldsy
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Made mine yesterday, couldnt thank shotokan enough. 8)
Little bit of jigging here and there, but wasnt too hard to figure it out. Got it to £30.50 for bits, im just deciding on the on the switch, i like the idea of a remote one but just something else to go wrong in my opinion. Pic and little vid below. PS thats not me getting excited on video ;D
https://youtu.be/e0q-56ylgpY
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Made mine yesterday, couldnt thank shotokan enough. 8)
Little bit of jigging here and there, but wasnt too hard to figure it out. Got it to £30.50 for bits, im just deciding on the on the switch, i like the idea of a remote one but just something else to go wrong in my opinion. Pic and little vid below. PS thats not me getting excited on video ;D
https://youtu.be/e0q-56ylgpY
Ok guys, what about a competition, PIMP MY REEL 😎
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Made mine yesterday, couldnt thank shotokan enough. 8)
Little bit of jigging here and there, but wasnt too hard to figure it out. Got it to £30.50 for bits, im just deciding on the on the switch, i like the idea of a remote one but just something else to go wrong in my opinion. Pic and little vid below. PS thats not me getting excited on video ;D
https://youtu.be/e0q-56ylgpY
Ok guys, what about a competition, PIMP MY REEL 😎
Damn shoulda got that gold chain now ;D
Im gonna put LEDS in mine to haha
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Made mine yesterday, couldnt thank shotokan enough. 8)
Little bit of jigging here and there, but wasnt too hard to figure it out. Got it to £30.50 for bits, im just deciding on the on the switch, i like the idea of a remote one but just something else to go wrong in my opinion. Pic and little vid below. PS thats not me getting excited on video ;D
https://youtu.be/e0q-56ylgpY
Ok guys, what about a competition, PIMP MY REEL 😎
Damn shoulda got that gold chain now ;D
Im gonna put LEDS in mine to haha
Looks the nuts m8, can't wait to get my bits....the gold chain is gonna edge it in the pimp stakes ;) ;D
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LED valve caps would work i think lol
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/H3qovFy9ucs/maxresdefault.jpg)
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@LWC , did you go direct to the battery m8 ?
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@LWC , did you go direct to the battery m8 ?
Yes I already have my wire thru from battery for the pump, so will splice off that.
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thanks LWC, If I can't use the socket, I'll go with direct to battery. Its just that this socket is in such a convenient position to use ;)
@ Spruce
Just been reading up on the combo fuse rating on the 12v socket and its rated at 20amps, so would I be good to go using the socket ??
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Be fine, for amount of time your using reel, 30 - 40 secs ish to reel in 100m...and who reels in 100m every day? Youll be using it for seconds at a time. Plus the fact youll be by the van when reeling in...whats worst that can happen?
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thanks LWC, If I can't use the socket, I'll go with direct to battery. Its just that this socket is in such a convenient position to use ;)
@ Spruce
Just been reading up on the combo fuse rating on the 12v socket and its rated at 20amps, so would I be good to go using the socket ??
It should be fine if the motor draws a max of 14 amps.
I see the remote controller for the winch is connected up to the solenoid switch already on the winch. Its this solenoid that takes the current for the winch, not the remote.
This is why another post by @Mufcglen mentioned using the remote with 20 amp relays.
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Thanks again LWC and Spruce, so where would I position the relays Spruce in the electrical circuit. Just wanna make sure I do this right.
Cheers again ;)
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It was the type 3 that had the 20 amp relays already on the pc board
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-12V-10A-RELAY-1-2-3-4-CH-WIRELESS-REMOTE-CONTROL-SWITCH-TRANSMITTER-RECEIVER-/131793343790
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Made mine yesterday, couldnt thank shotokan enough. 8)
Little bit of jigging here and there, but wasnt too hard to figure it out. Got it to £30.50 for bits, im just deciding on the on the switch, i like the idea of a remote one but just something else to go wrong in my opinion. Pic and little vid below. PS thats not me getting excited on video ;D
https://youtu.be/e0q-56ylgpY
Would love a list and links to what you bought if possible. I have a spare reel the same as yours that for the money it cost it's worth a play. Did you fit a spacer on the opposite side to the cog?
Thanks.
Tony
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It was the type 3 that had the 20 amp relays already on the pc board
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-12V-10A-RELAY-1-2-3-4-CH-WIRELESS-REMOTE-CONTROL-SWITCH-TRANSMITTER-RECEIVER-/131793343790
i decided to get my wireless relay out and play about with it again, i wired it up and want it set up so when i press the remote button it comes on and when i release the button it stops working but what im getting now is when i press the button it stays on untill i press the button again and i just dont have enough control that way as it reels in too quickly lol.
i believe you can change the way it works by changing the coding, has anyone done this to theyres?
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this i find interesting as I've just bought few power up HD reels, not so sad as they work well
but i have three or four spare standard, hand wind in reels same as the HD power ups from window cleaning wharehouse
do you think most these items would be able to retro fit my spare wind in reels so i could set up in the other vans
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this i find interesting as I've just bought few power up HD reels, not so sad as they work well
but i have three or four spare standard, hand wind in reels same as the HD power ups from window cleaning wharehouse
do you think most these items would be able to retro fit my spare wind in reels so i could set up in the other vans
Yes without a doubt. How much space do you have o n the side the chain would go?
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this i find interesting as I've just bought few power up HD reels, not so sad as they work well
but i have three or four spare standard, hand wind in reels same as the HD power ups from window cleaning wharehouse
do you think most these items would be able to retro fit my spare wind in reels so i could set up in the other vans
Yes without a doubt. How much space do you have o n the side the chain would go?
I guess about 2-3cm the Hd version is the same as the hand wind reel but also will hide chain from fingers and other misc items from catching in it
I've been meaning to do it, may become my week of project
What size is the chain does it come in a length that needs sections removed
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It was the type 3 that had the 20 amp relays already on the pc board
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-12V-10A-RELAY-1-2-3-4-CH-WIRELESS-REMOTE-CONTROL-SWITCH-TRANSMITTER-RECEIVER-/131793343790
i decided to get my wireless relay out and play about with it again, i wired it up and want it set up so when i press the remote button it comes on and when i release the button it stops working but what im getting now is when i press the button it stays on untill i press the button again and i just dont have enough control that way as it reels in too quickly lol.
i believe you can change the way it works by changing the coding, has anyone done this to theyres?
I'd also like to know this, as I've just purchased one, and don't want to be chasing it. I'd like to have control as when you depress the button it reels in and lift your finger and it stops...................other than that I'm gonna get one of these which is variable and will slow it down................but unfortunately not remote :(
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152226988240?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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It was the type 3 that had the 20 amp relays already on the pc board
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-12V-10A-RELAY-1-2-3-4-CH-WIRELESS-REMOTE-CONTROL-SWITCH-TRANSMITTER-RECEIVER-/131793343790
I did test mine with an old flo controll i built but fou d that i didnt need to decrease the speed i judt switch it off when its wound up.
i decided to get my wireless relay out and play about with it again, i wired it up and want it set up so when i press the remote button it comes on and when i release the button it stops working but what im getting now is when i press the button it stays on untill i press the button again and i just dont have enough control that way as it reels in too quickly lol.
i believe you can change the way it works by changing the coding, has anyone done this to theyres?
I'd also like to know this, as I've just purchased one, and don't want to be chasing it. I'd like to have control as when you depress the button it reels in and lift your finger and it stops...................other than that I'm gonna get one of these which is variable and will slow it down................but unfortunately not remote :(
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152226988240?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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well the project begins the spare reel is now dismantled
i would like to locate if possible the yellow control boxes which water works use on the power hd to control the winding in as I've a load spare electric cable when i moved around i electric reels in the van the other day
to spruce or shotokan
do you know what there called? or have you seen one eBay, even better a link if you have one
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well the project begins the spare reel is now dismantled
i would like to locate if possible the yellow control boxes which water works use on the power hd to control the winding in as I've a load spare electric cable when i moved around i electric reels in the van the other day
to spruce or shotokan
do you know what there called? or have you seen one eBay, even better a link if you have one
I was looking for these the other day when considering what controller to use. Just did another search and found these, they look identical, albeit a bit dear considering the price of the parts needed. Hope that helps,
https://www.nationwide-trailer-parts.co.uk/collections/tail-lift-control-box-mafelec-telemecanique
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They buy them from china in bulk I'm guessing https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/EPB324-3-buttons-mafelec-push-button_60133030060.html
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All the stuff seems to be sourced from China ( no surprise there ), even the variable controller I saw on another vid is again from China.......................nice mark up on the supplied units ;)
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well the project begins the spare reel is now dismantled
i would like to locate if possible the yellow control boxes which water works use on the power hd to control the winding in as I've a load spare electric cable when i moved around i electric reels in the van the other day
I would just make one myself with one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12v-Push-Button-Switch-Momentary-ON-OFF-SPST-Car-Dash-Horn-Engine-Start-/251090433454
to spruce or shotokan
do you know what there called? or have you seen one eBay, even better a link if you have one
I was looking for these the other day when considering what controller to use. Just did another search and found these, they look identical, albeit a bit dear considering the price of the parts needed. Hope that helps,
https://www.nationwide-trailer-parts.co.uk/collections/tail-lift-control-box-mafelec-telemecanique
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Here you go £7
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Two-Button-Control-Box-tail-lift-winch-windlass-/152317483525?hash=item2376d45a05:g:12sAAOSwzhVWqLN6
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thanks guys very much appreciated
currently £52.34 just from eBay for all the parts, will get some metal in the week to make a mounting plate and then game on
i'll try post pics when I've finished may be a couple weeks as next week is going to be brutal with all the extra bookings so might be week of 26th a finally get down to putting together
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And the motors etc etc are made in china. I'm also betting the metal reels used are too but can't be arsed to do a search
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Anyone had a problem with the wrong motors being delivered? Ive ordered 6 motors...busy boy lol. From 3 different places. 1 came was correct that i ordered, but the other 5...yes 5! have all been belt driven motors. Not a happy bunny.
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Any reason you ordered the other 5 though ?
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4 reels plus my mates ;D
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Thought I would join the party. Just ordered the bits for an electric reel. Going to convert my claber reel before the new year when I got a few easy days
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I brought type 3. Mainly for the key fobs. I can make the relay myself for about a fiver.
hi mate any joy with pics of how you wired up your wireless relay yet?
hi mate any chance you can tell me how u wired it up ;)
Ill take so e oics over weekend. Im doing another reel but with all new parts. Using chrom e chaine and orange sprocket on black reel. PIMP MY REEL 😁
Remote Switch
You just replace a switch with the remote relay...
Hose reel
Negative wire to negative on the battery
Then a switch or relay between the red positive wire and the positive battery
If you swap motor red to negative on battery then it will spin the other way
cheers mate you dont have a photo of your wiring do you as simple as it is,my remote when i cut the feed to it when im finishing for the day and then switching back on in morning it fires up straight away so i have press the remote button to turn it off then its ok for the day, but its like plugging a tv in to the wall and it just comes on without switching it on if you understand me lol!
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Just got my motor and they have sent a belt driven one !!!!! NOT BLOODY HAPPY !
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Can you kindly post a link to the one you thought you had ordered so I can avoid the seller if need be. Ta
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Here ya go m8, its advertised as chain AND shows a chain sprocket on the motor......................and mine is a belted motor !!!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401051626914?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Many thanks ;)
Have you contacted the seller as I see it was shipped from china?
Also just curious if you had to pay any imprt duty on it aswell?
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It looks like it could be a scam addess for returns ?. The address says Greenford UB18 7HK, just did a google search and found this
https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Seller-Central/UB18-7HK-post-code-SCAM/td-p/4353720/page/2
Looks like money down the drain and need to find a UK seller ?
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The 2 companies i have had a problem with are usernames "unopery" and "2015happydeal"
Its not money down drain, I did have a refund from the 2015happydeal one, that was one motor. Just waiting for a response from "unopery" Ebay will have our backs whatever anyway and can pull the refund for us if need be.
Username "zsjladyshop" sent me the right motor.
On a positive note, been using my reel properly for past 2 days faultlessly. Well pleased...just need to get the other reels down (when they send the right motors ::)roll ) the lads arent best pleased with me and this reel lol.
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Bloody hell, thats weird, you got the right one from the same seller I got the wrong one from..........................anyway I've mullered it now, hoping I could get the belt shaft off to change for the 11 tooth cog. Although dearer, I'm gonna go for this. It looks like its the "quality version" if there is such a thing.........and only a few quid more.
http://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/e-scooter-24v-250w-motor-with-11-tooth-sprocket-for-6mm-chain-go-ped-dirt-bikes-quad.html
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I actually dont think its the sellers fault...although they should have checked, the last seller asked me to send a picture of the label that the motors came in, the label on the little black bag. I think theyve had a batch with incorrectly labelled motors. For the people packing the parcels, i doubt they even looked inside the black bags, and at a quick glance they are identical arent they. Easy mistake, just annoying for us...especially as i have 5 of them sat here ::)roll lol
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Yh, probs right m8, they are just coming from a distribution centre, I'll try for a refund....lol. Have you had to send yours back ?
The trouble is with that, its a 50/50 chance that you get the right one !!..................hence the 5 you had :(
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They refunded the one motor i ordered seperatly, they havent asked for it back, and to be honest i cant be bothered sending it back. Not my problem...but if i could fit a cog to it...bargain ;D
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Yh, if you manage to get the belt sprocket off let me know. I've tried pulling and unscrewing and can't budge it. I'm assuming it has a thread as you "could" buy it like this...........................petrol scooter don't stock it anymore with the cog ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZY1016-Electric-24-Volt-200-Watt-MOTOR-Unite-Brand-2500-RPM-Bare-Shaft-Spindle-/190795916599?nma=true&si=pr0HyAb5eaOTjBGhGWSdWpfcKzo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
and the cog, which they do sell is only 4 quid odd http://www.petrolscooter.co.uk/sprocket-drive-11-teeth-electric-scooter-6mm.html
I've gone for this, dearer, but hopfully it will be exactly what I want and not left to chance what drive I get ?
http://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/e-scooter-24v-250w-motor-with-11-tooth-sprocket-for-6mm-chain-go-ped-dirt-bikes-quad.html
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Yeh i couldnt figure out how to get it off either. Took that pin out but wouldnt move. Although if i can get it off and cog for £4 :D lol
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Yeh i couldnt figure out how to get it off either. Took that pin out but wouldnt move. Although if i can get it off and cog for £4 :D lol
Pin ?, what pin...lol. Mine had a circlip on top, which I got off, then assume I could either pull or screw off........................neither worked...lol, so I've asked for a refund...............hopefully they won't want it back..............but if they do it will be modified slightly !!!...pmsl ;)
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Also received mine today
BLOODY BELT DRIVEN! - 2015happydeal is the culprit
not only that but was packaged in a thin plastic bag and was also broken, a bit chipped off the drive
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Also received mine today
BLOODY BELT DRIVEN!
not only that but was packaged in a thin plastic bag and was also broken, a bit chipped off the drive
feel sorry for ya m8, I was all ready to start building it and now going nowhere. I've ordered the one in my link. I'll see what arrives ;). I couldn't find a UK supplier on ebay................................AND, the one I've got is 300w !!!! and 17 amps, not 250w and 14amps
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Really hoping someone is going to make a video of how put all this together and put it on youtube, as i'd really like to try it but i'm sure ill cock it up if i do it myself!
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This is what you need http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24V-Electric-Motor-Brushed-250W-2750RPM-2-Wired-Chain-For-E-Scooter-Drive-14A-UK/151974028076?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3D9c0a602b391f4e819e2914e37fe5a53b%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D27%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D401051626914
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The 2 companies i have had a problem with are usernames "unopery" and "2015happydeal"
It still seems a lottery with what you get as LWC dealt with 2015happydeal and got the wrong one ?
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Wrong one came through today
Asked for a replacement not as advertised
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Out of interest does anyone know what size the cogs are on the HD reels and where I may purchase one from
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Wrong one came through today
Asked for a replacement not as advertised
It seems as though you can't trust any of these ebay sellers. I went for this, dearer, but hopefully I'll get the right bloody one !
http://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/e-scooter-24v-250w-motor-with-11-tooth-sprocket-for-6mm-chain-go-ped-dirt-bikes-quad.html
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Wrong one came through today
Asked for a replacement not as advertised
It seems as though you can't trust any of these ebay sellers. I went for this, dearer, but hopefully I'll get the right bloody one !
http://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/e-scooter-24v-250w-motor-with-11-tooth-sprocket-for-6mm-chain-go-ped-dirt-bikes-quad.html
I thought that site looked suspect to me as could not find their trading address
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Wrong one came through today
Asked for a replacement not as advertised
It seems as though you can't trust any of these ebay sellers. I went for this, dearer, but hopefully I'll get the right bloody one !
http://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/e-scooter-24v-250w-motor-with-11-tooth-sprocket-for-6mm-chain-go-ped-dirt-bikes-quad.html
I thought that site looked suspect to me as could not find their trading address
look on alibaba I think best to go to the people who supply them. We could put in bulk order?
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Wrong one came through today
Asked for a replacement not as advertised
It seems as though you can't trust any of these ebay sellers. I went for this, dearer, but hopefully I'll get the right bloody one !
http://www.xtreme-toys.co.uk/e-scooter-24v-250w-motor-with-11-tooth-sprocket-for-6mm-chain-go-ped-dirt-bikes-quad.html
I thought that site looked suspect to me as could not find their trading address
look on alibaba I think best to go to the people who supply them. We could put in bulk order?
And still get the wrong one delivered. This time in bulk...No thanks ;D ;D
What do they say two wongs don't make a right :D
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I did think that at first, as I usually look for an address. I googled their phone number and got an address. I accidentally ordered 2 by mistake, so emailed them to confirm to cancel one. If they were dodgy I doubt they would have replied and took payment for two, but this came though by mail from them,
Hi Paul,
We have received one payment and order, the other was a failed transaction on the website,
This will be shipped today .
With best regards,
Customer service team
XTREME TOYS
So, I'll wait and see :)
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I've done a wee bit of digging myself on company’s house and one of the directors match the original domain reg name so looks ok to me https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09341517
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Thanks Smurf. The motor from this company looks a bit better quality than those ebay ones, albeit a bit dearer, but time will tell I suppose ?
cheers :) ;)
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I rang a scooter parts shop today and they were out of stock of the chain motors.
I need to order another but it seems it's a bit of a lottery this. I have the chain and cog here gagging for a motor!
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I'll let you know what I get from xtreme toys, but they are dearer
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Hi everybody sorry this is my first post but Ive been reading this thread with interest.
I have been in the process of motorizing my pure freedom reel for a while with the same motor and sprockets.
I ordered mine from 2015happydeal and it came with belt drive sprocket, i couldn't be bothered to send it back
so tried taking it off, its glued on well, but i heated it up and used my small gear puller on it and it came off.
Im still waiting for an 11 tooth half moon sprocket from petrol scooters to come then i can carry on with it.
ive no idea if it will work out with the pure freedom reel, but will get some time in the xmas holidays to play.
I'm hoping to mount the motor to the reel just not decided where yet.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o172/vdubdave/shared/IMAG0865.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/vdubdave/media/shared/IMAG0865.jpg.html)
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Hi everybody sorry this is my first post but Ive been reading this thread with interest.
I have been in the process of motorizing my pure freedom reel for a while with the same motor and sprockets.
I ordered mine from happydeal2015 and it came with belt drive sprocket, i couldn't be bothered to send it back
so tried taking it off, its glued on well, but i heated it up and used my small gear puller on it and it came off.
Im still waiting for an 11 tooth half moon sprocket from petrol scooters to come then i can carry on with it.
ive no idea if it will work out with the pure freedom reel, but will get some time in the xmas holidays to play.
I'm hoping to mount the motor to the reel just not decided where yet.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o172/vdubdave/shared/IMAG0865.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/vdubdave/media/shared/IMAG0865.jpg.html)
Welcome to the forum...Let us know how you get on ;)
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Yep, did the same with a bearing puller....and yh definitely some kind of glue holding it on. Also ordered the cog from petrol scooter and waiting for it to arrive. Gonna be interesting to see how it fits.......if at all ?. If it works I'll have two motors......one for the second van. If needed I'll get it welded on.
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All done ;D
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That's a bodge job if ever I've seen one. Balanced too perfection...NOT ;D ;D
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2015happydeal offered me 50% refund rather than return it. So I may take the offer and fit a cog then
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That's a bodge job if ever I've seen one. Balanced too perfection...NOT ;D ;D
lol, you're talking about an item that, when you go to undo the screws holding the casing on........they immediately round off like butter, I think bodge fits equation rather than quality. If it works its a plus. if it don't I've got a "proper" one coming, and the seller might send me a replacement, so its win win ;D
There ya go, balanced a bit more....lol, and its still rock solid.
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You know when you build something and it works perfectly first time? Dont ever ti nker with it because if it aint broke dont try to fix it. 😕 yesterday i had a six year old hose reel that i converted to electric and it was perfect. I took it to bits to put motor on new real......... I thin k its fixed now. Im going to make a plate up that slots in to the 3 holes on hose reel and weld 4 bolts on so that cog just slids on. I cant rest untill it works perfectly. Does anyone know if the 3 holes are the same distance on most hose reels? If so ill make a load of the plates.
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Well, the cogs on and I've wired up the winch remote to see if it works ok. I wanted one to control from the van and one on a key ring from distance if needed ;D
https://youtu.be/_R5AANCJA1I
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It is the same exact motor isnt it? As in chain and belt driven one. Ive got 5 sat here that i could just pull apart. I will try heating up tomorrow.
Ive also got cogs and chains sat here doing nothing!!
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Hi m8, yes its the same motor, just that they sent me a 300w instead of a 250 though ?. If you have the cog from power scooter it has a "D" shaped hole exactly the same as the spindle, it just force fitted it on and it ain't moving ! I've requested a refund/new motor from seller but not heard anything yet. Its got to be worth having a crack at one of yours m8, just to see as a £5 refund is feck all considering the cock up they've made.
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Fieldy do you have a email addy?
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fieldsy11 (at) gmail (dot )com
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WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T ORDER THIS COG
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162295001499?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Bad planning on my part, got the motor all wired up ready to go, got the cog bolted to the reel.....................cog diameter is too small for reel spindle..........................b******s !!!, comes to mind. Just order another cog and back to drawing board...lol. Oh well its all a learning curve :( ;) .............I'll know for the next one. :)
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That's the one I got. It will fit my claber reel with a homemade woodruff key but won't go on the shaft far enough to bolt to the reel sides. Will need a different cog for my petal reel.
I've also received the belt drive motor when ordered the sprocket motor >:(
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This budget diy motorised hose reel malarky seems way to much hassle to me now. ::)roll
I'm also betting if the lads for waterworks are reading this will be laughing too. ;D
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This budget diy motorised hose reel malarky seems way to much hassle to me now. ::)roll
I'm also betting if the lads for waterworks are reading this will be laughing too. ;D
I'm sure they are thinking 'this many people willing to build there own with parts very similar to ours. They must really like the idea but not like the price. Maybe we should lower our price a bit then all these people will give up their efforts before they get their replacement motors from china and work out the correct size cogs'
Something like that ;D
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Why not just buy the parts you need from them as would save all the messing about trying to save a few quid surely?
https://www.waterworkswindowcleaning.co.uk/power-up-add-on-gen-2.html
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Why not just buy the parts you need from them as would save all the messing about trying to save a few quid surely?
https://www.waterworkswindowcleaning.co.uk/power-up-add-on-gen-2.html
I found it really simple to makr. If you have right motor its a doddle. Dont give up, just get right parts.
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Why not just buy the parts you need from them as would save all the messing about trying to save a few quid surely?
https://www.waterworkswindowcleaning.co.uk/power-up-add-on-gen-2.html
My first electric hose reel cost £12 once you have the right motor its much cheaper especially if you have a few vans. Im going to see hiw a belt driven one runs too.
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piece of urine when you get the right parts
Just wanged mine together for a quick test and will re do it properly over crimbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS5GKphlpQU
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Nice one, yep had mine all working today, just didn't have it spaced far enough away and the chain hit the frame sending the chain split link flying into the van somewhere....lol. Spaced the cog out with another bolt on each nut and just got to get another split link and it will be up and running. When I make another for the other reels, I'll get the cog you got Adam, as the hole in mine was too small, but I luckily have some metal bore bits and bored it out a bit more :).
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Nice one, yep had mine all working today, just didn't have it spaced far enough away and the chain hit the frame sending the chain split link flying into the van somewhere....lol. Spaced the cog out with another bolt on each nut and just got to get another split link and it will be up and running. When I make another for the other reels, I'll get the cog you got Adam, as the hole in mine was too small, but I luckily have some metal bore bits and bored it out a bit more :).
Lol I bet "petrolscooter" place are getting annoyed with us lot haha. Ive made like 5 separate orders with em so far.
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Yes space is a bit tight where the cog goes.
Took about 3 hours as had to keep playing with the correct distance to space it out to avoid the frame and then avoid the blots protruding from the frames clamp.
Then it didn't spin true it was like a buckled wheel so I had to offset it slightly with washers on one bolt and tease it with a hammer to straighten it. Looks pretty good now though just needs neatly installing.
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yh, mines slightly out of "true", but not enough for the chain to come off now :)
@LWC, got your mail m8, not ignoring you, just been busy.....lol..with this new project ;). I'll add you on FB m8. I still think its worth the investment for a few hours playing ;) and getting it running. Petrol Scooter must be wondering what the hell is going on ?. Did you have nay luck with your motors m8. I've heard nothing back from my seller at all for a few days now !!!!!!
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Nice one, yep had mine all working today, just didn't have it spaced far enough away and the chain hit the frame sending the chain split link flying into the van somewhere....lol. Spaced the cog out with another bolt on each nut and just got to get another split link and it will be up and running. When I make another for the other reels, I'll get the cog you got Adam, as the hole in mine was too small, but I luckily have some metal bore bits and bored it out a bit more :).
Lol I bet "petrolscooter" place are getting annoyed with us lot haha. Ive made like 5 separate orders with em so far.
;D
They will be wondering why the sudden interest in the UK to convert bicycles to electric. Do you think they have increased their stock holding of batteries, battery holders, UK plug chargers etc to cope with the demand of this sudden interest?
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For your motors I used this seller in the end and it came 48 hours delivery and was the correct one
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-E-scooter-24-volt-300-watt-Motor-Chain-drive-/261310340549?txnId=1935530380016
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Nice link Adam, would you feeeeeeecking believe it, ordered the cog version from xtreme toys.......................................what do I get another bloody belted version. WTF is wrong with these people !!.
Your link is next to try m8 ;) lol
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well i rang http://www.petrolscooter.co.uk/ before ordering that one and they were out of stock for two weeks
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Nice link Adam, would you feeeeeeecking believe it, ordered the cog version from xtreme toys.......................................what do I get another bloody belted version. WTF is wrong with these people !!.
Your link is next to try m8 ;) lol
YOURE KIDDING!!!!!!
Ive reported "unopery" to ebay and now its going thru the "returns" process, however they did reply saying again for me to send another £15 for them to send the correct ones...im going bonkers here! Im hoping they mess it up and ebay just refunds me, and ill put cogs on them all, 5 motors for free...and £25 for the 5 cogs be nice wouldnt it ;D
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Mine was bought through zsjladyshop and they have asked me for pictures showing a reference number but they are so slow getting back to me. so ordered another through Adams link.
Was going to use extreme toys earlier or petrol scooter glad I didn't.
Hassle for sure. Hey Adam you could sell the sprocket motors on to us for a higher price now they are so rare. Haha
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I've got a m8 whos's a welder, if all else fails, I'll buy the cogs and get him to spot weld them on for me....................shouldn't bloody have to tho !!
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Mine was bought through zsjladyshop and they have asked me for pictures showing a reference number but they are so slow getting back to me. so ordered another through Adams link.
Was going to use extreme toys earlier or petrol scooter glad I didn't.
Hassle for sure. Hey Adam you could sell the sprocket motors on to us for a higher price now they are so rare. Haha
Same m8, they asked me top take a pic of the SKU number, did that, sent it, heard feck all since !!!. Let us know if Adams link is ok. I messaged them and he said its definitely the cog version.......................I won't hold my breath.
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Mine was bought through zsjladyshop and they have asked me for pictures showing a reference number but they are so slow getting back to me. so ordered another through Adams link.
Was going to use extreme toys earlier or petrol scooter glad I didn't.
Hassle for sure. Hey Adam you could sell the sprocket motors on to us for a higher price now they are so rare. Haha
Same m8, they asked me top take a pic of the SKU number, did that, sent it, heard feck all since !!!. Let us know if Adams link is ok. I messaged them and he said its definitely the cog version.......................I won't hold my breath.
You ordered long enough ago for eBay to step in?eBay will get our money back.
I want a different supplier because their communication is terrible. So just want money back and then to arrange a collection if they want the motor back
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9th December it was ordered, so got bloody ages yet until ebay step in ! ::)roll >:(
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Mine was bought through zsjladyshop and they have asked me for pictures showing a reference number but they are so slow getting back to me. so ordered another through Adams link.
Was going to use extreme toys earlier or petrol scooter glad I didn't.
Hassle for sure. Hey Adam you could sell the sprocket motors on to us for a higher price now they are so rare. Haha
lol, don't give him ideas !! ;)
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Theyve told me to send the 4 motors back, and theyll send the correct ones. Which i have no issue with, but these guys seem like morons, and theyre english isnt great. I reckon ill send them back and never hear from them again, annoyed i ordered 4 from them ::)roll £92!!!! Its annoying as theyre giving the answers ebay will want to see. I just wanna get the correct motors!!!! How hard can it be.
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Theyve told me to send the 4 motors back, and theyll send the correct ones. Which i have no issue with, but these guys seem like morons, and theyre english isnt great. I reckon ill send them back and never hear from them again, annoyed i ordered 4 from them ::)roll £92!!!! Its annoying as theyre giving the answers ebay will want to see. I just wanna get the correct motors!!!! How hard can it be.
I know what you mean m8, Its not exactly rocket science is it. Xtreme toys have answered me, and said they are going to resolve the issue......................I won't hold my breath ! I haven't even heard back from the ebay seller !!!!!. I wanted a refund, so ebay have said send it back when you hear from seller. I've heard feck all from seller, so in complete limbo, he has my money, I have a wrong item ( even though I've put a cog on it now ;) ;D ) .................and I ain't sending it back knowing he'll keep my money!!!. The only other option is the other ebay link posted, but I'd still like to hear if others received a cogged version from him aswell as the poster ?. If so, I'll go with him, other than that I'm gonna go with the belt versions, pull off the belt drive and cold weld the cog on with JB kwik weld.......................if it can hold a gearbox casing together ( youtube ) it can certainly hold a cog on a spindle ( I've ordered some :) )
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I got a 50% refund for the original belt drive one i got and have ordered a cog for it so that will be back up.
The link i gave should be good, mine came very fast it might have been next day but defo within 48 hours
I wouldnt sell mine for £100 lol its too rare, cant wait to get chance to install it all properly over christmas, im pretty excited about it
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I wouldnt sell mine for £100 lol its too rare, cant wait to get chance to install it all properly over christmas, im pretty excited about it
lol, know what you mean, sad that I'm excited about getting a new chain link to get it all up and running.....................only to be finishing at the end of the week, and have to wait until next year to use it....lol
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the other half took the kids shopping on Saturday so i got some garage time. :)
Used it for two days and it works perfectly. I will tidy it up over the holidays and then give it a proper test in the new year.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o172/vdubdave/shared/189f7d8d-fcc8-4ac9-9b49-9a343f55ddb8.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/vdubdave/media/shared/189f7d8d-fcc8-4ac9-9b49-9a343f55ddb8.jpg.html)
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the other half took the kids shopping on Saturday so i got some garage time. :)
Used it for two days and it works perfectly. I will tidy it up over the holidays and then give it a proper test in the new year.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o172/vdubdave/shared/189f7d8d-fcc8-4ac9-9b49-9a343f55ddb8.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/vdubdave/media/shared/189f7d8d-fcc8-4ac9-9b49-9a343f55ddb8.jpg.html)
Why not a caddy?
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Would not that motor get damaged by water ingress when it rains or if the hose should ever leak etc having it exposed like that?
I'm also not found of the idea of the cables, chain & sprockets being exposed like that either more so for safety reasons.
Surely it needs a cowling around the motor, cables protected somehow and the chain & sprockets incased too ???
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I got a 50% refund for the original belt drive one i got and have ordered a cog for it so that will be back up.
Just been offered a 50% refund by the seller, so will accept that.
Also, received this from xtreme toys,
Good afternoon Paul,
Unfortunately this is the new style motor we don’t have any of the old style in stock sorry
If you want to return it for a full refund
With best regards,
Customer service team
If this is true, be wary with what you order, as it will only be new stock ( belted ) coming through from sellers.
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Would not that motor get damaged by water ingress when it rains or if the hose should ever leak etc having it exposed like that?
I'm also not found of the idea of the cables, chain & sprockets being exposed like that either more so for safety reasons.
Surely it needs a cowling around the motor, cables protected somehow and the chain & sprockets incased too ???
You obviously don't have one of these PF reels do you Smurf?
They sit so low on the ground that you scrap the skin off your knuckles every time you wind the hose in manually. ;D
I guess Vdubdave should really put the motor and drive chain on the opposite side to the water inlet. However, the Waterworks kit doesn't have chain guards either.
What I would be concerned about is that if the hose popped off over the side of the reel, then the chain and sprocket could chew the hose up in an instance.
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the other half took the kids shopping on Saturday so i got some garage time. :)
Used it for two days and it works perfectly. I will tidy it up over the holidays and then give it a proper test in the new year.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o172/vdubdave/shared/189f7d8d-fcc8-4ac9-9b49-9a343f55ddb8.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/vdubdave/media/shared/189f7d8d-fcc8-4ac9-9b49-9a343f55ddb8.jpg.html)
Someone also put a photo up of his reel strapped to the rear doors and he also had a Combo van quite a while back on one of the forums.
How have you secured yours on Vdubdave if you don't mind me asking.
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Someone also put a photo up of his reel strapped to the rear doors and he also had a Combo van quite a while back on one of the forums.
How have you secured yours on Vdubdave if you don't mind me asking
wow spruse youve got a good memory that was my trial run that i did 3 years ago. A couple of weeks after that photo i bought a full steel rear door and made some bolt on steel brackets to slot the reel into, it takes a few seconds to put the reel on, and i can keep the van shut up all day, I've been using like that ever since.
The whole electric reel project is work in progress. (I've been close to buying the remote hd reel quite a few times) I do plan on concealing the motor & wiring to protect it from rain etc, but i may end up leaving it in the van and using a pulley system through the floor.
As for putting it on the other side of the reel away from the water inlet is purely because i didn't want to lose the handle yet, but its not a big job to swap sides.
I am going to make some small guards to prevent the hose from falling off the reel into the chain, but to be honest i have made it fall off on purpose quite a few times to see what happens, but the gap is quite tight so the minibore doesn't really get stuck in anything because its too big, microbore may get jammed up a bit more.
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Someone also put a photo up of his reel strapped to the rear doors and he also had a Combo van quite a while back on one of the forums.
How have you secured yours on Vdubdave if you don't mind me asking
wow spruse youve got a good memory that was my trial run that i did 3 years ago. A couple of weeks after that photo i bought a full steel rear door and made some bolt on steel brackets to slot the reel into, it takes a few seconds to put the reel on, and i can keep the van shut up all day, I've been using like that ever since.
The whole electric reel project is work in progress. (I've been close to buying the remote hd reel quite a few times) I do plan on concealing the motor & wiring to protect it from rain etc, but i may end up leaving it in the van and using a pulley system through the floor.
As for putting it on the other side of the reel away from the water inlet is purely because i didn't want to lose the handle yet, but its not a big job to swap sides.
I am going to make some small guards to prevent the hose from falling off the reel into the chain, but to be honest i have made it fall off on purpose quite a few times to see what happens, but the gap is quite tight so the minibore doesn't really get stuck in anything because its too big, microbore may get jammed up a bit more.
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I remembered it purely because there was another cleaner somewhere many years ago who fitted brackets to the rear doors of his Dispatch/Expert/Scudo and had his hoses securely bolted to those. If I remember correctly they could swivel through 90 degrees as well. It didn't look very pretty but it worked for him.
Those electric motors are built for scooters which I'm sure well get wet from time to time as well. So I wouldn't expect the odd rain shower would matter too much. It looks as though cooling would be through the motor casing rather than through any open 'vents'. I would imagine they would use roller bearing on the armature shaft with seals to prevent grease escaping. Those seals also stop dirt and water getting in from the outside.
Clever Forum name says he is going to redesign his rollers under his van this holiday period, so I get that the rollers he has aren't totally working for him. He has been experimenting with his sytem for a couple of years to date.
Another source of motors gave a bit more info on these motors. They are 24v but can be run at 18v or 12v. Running at 12v halves the motor speed and also halves the motor's torque. So pulling hose through rollers will put extra demands on the 'restricted' motor.
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Clever Forum name says he is going to redesign his rollers under his van this holiday period, so I get that the rollers he has aren't totally working for him. He has been experimenting with his sytem for a couple of years to date.
yeh im finding that with the small pulley i use, they do create drag on the hose, the more pulleys the more drag.
Even tho it only runs on 12v it is plenty fast enough, i was thinking about a bigger sprocket on the reel, it may slow it down a bit but it would give it more torque, which would help it pull around corners and long wet grass. Microbore hose would be easier for it to pull in, but then they do say that on the waterworks website.
I used microbore for quite a few years but swapped to minibore purely because its less strain on the pump and battery but i did like the lighter microbore.
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I think reel on the back doors looks horrendous
I bet it works a lot better than Inside though .
Couldn't live with it like that
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All done ;D
Thought of a possibly better way to do this. The flat end part on the belt drive is pretty much the same thickness as the chain cog. Cut the flat part off, and hammer the chain cog on, would be perfectly spaced then, and could still put the spring clip back on after.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/wKcAAOSw2zlXhwAD/s-l1600.jpg)
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Why not just buy the parts you need from them as would save all the messing about trying to save a few quid surely?
https://www.waterworkswindowcleaning.co.uk/power-up-add-on-gen-2.html
Once I got the right motor with a chain cog it's all been very easy. I have saved around £160 and really enjoy tinkering like this when get the time so win win.
Will tidy the wiring and fit a fuse while I have some time off over the next week or so. Can't believe how perfect the speed is for our application with the parts I got. And the torque is just right that it can be stopped without taking a hand off or ripping things apart. 👍🏻 Keep trying those without the right motor. Well worth it I would say for £40 and doesn't take much to get it working.
Took a vid although I didn't intend to upload it so isn't the best filming 😂😂 ;D
https://youtu.be/3NGmlBLdc8A
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Nice one a900! Can you send me a pic of where you attached the big cog to reel, would like to see how youve done that...looks simpler than mine :)
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Just finished mine ( as I lost the chain split pin ), working a treat ;D Its the right torque and happy with the speed. I'll post a video tomorrow. I ended cold welding the cog onto the shaft with JB Kwik weld. It sets like steel, sets in 6 mins and cures in 6 hours. The sprocket on the reel is a little bit out, but it works fine. Well pleased. It even pulls out most of the kinks in the hose. Got all the bits again and gonna do my boys over christmas hols. Got there in the end ;) ;D
Can't wait till christmas is over and use it in the big wide world !!.....pmsl
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Why was it mentioned you need a relay with the remotes? I dont really understand relays.
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Why was it mentioned you need a relay with the remotes? I dont really understand relays.
I only needed a relay as I used a winch remote, which has a hand held remote and a smaller remote. I've stuck the larger remote in the van, close to the reel and the smaller remote I will carry with me. I think it was Spruce who pointed out that a winch has a solenoid in it ( which this type of remote connects to ( for the in and out motion)). I just bought a standard relay and connected it all up an it works a treat. I have all the info written down. I'll try to get a vid up :)
oh and I used a relay with built in fuse
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Here ya go :)
https://youtu.be/b3QQMedXPMk
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Thought of a possibly better way to do this. The flat end part on the belt drive is pretty much the same thickness as the chain cog. Cut the flat part off, and hammer the chain cog on, would be perfectly spaced then, and could still put the spring clip back on after.
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LWC thats prety much what i did with mine exept i removed the belt pulley and did all the cutting in the vice. the other thing you have to do is grind down the very end of the teeth on the pulley as they are the same size as the chain drive sprocket causing the chain not to fit properly, if you get what i mean.
I will go and take a pic of mine so you can see.
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here you go
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o172/vdubdave/IMAG0885.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/vdubdave/media/IMAG0885.jpg.html)
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Excellent thanks Dave, did you get a refund for that motor? Mines still on going ::)roll
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i did contact the seller and they said to send photos, but I'd already pulled it apart and fitted the chain drive sprocket and mounted the motor, so i could not be bothered.
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Least you got it working innit. I got a refund on the 1, just the 4 sat here. I wanna get on with it. Probably just have to make do and modify them...why we should i dont know. Wonder why theyre changing them, surely there must be a stock of chain ones.
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Xtreme toys offered a full refund and said the chain driven are now old stock ???, I've modified it now, so won't be sending it back. Its been easy enough, pull the pulley off, order the cog, push fit it on and secured with JB weld. Did my second one today, Getting good at it now, only one more to do for my partners van. Think I'll use the ebay link above, but I did get a notification saying he is running out of stock...............................I wonder who could be buying all these cog motors.....lol ;D ;)
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Here's a few pics for those of you who have the H5 reel, showing how the cog is fitted, and used 3 nuts behind the cog to space it away from the reel. Also, those that use the 2 channel remote.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-12V-2CH-Channel-Wireless-RF-Remote-Control-Switch-Transmitter-Receiver-/281999443462?hash=item41a87a0606:g:ApMAAOSwjMJXCmkX
It is not a simple case of plugging in + and - from power and then plugging in motor. Both the transmitter and motor need power and then a jumper wire. I'll post a pic, but its all working fine now on the second van.
I used 25mm M6 bolts and nuts.
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https://youtu.be/zuX6ps9OqhQ
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Mines all done and installed today.
Speed is perfect. Torque is fine, can stop it with hand if needed but pulls in nicely.
Wanna use it on a house
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Nice one a900! Can you send me a pic of where you attached the big cog to reel, would like to see how youve done that...looks simpler than mine :)
Wired it all up neatly today. I'm sure this is going to be very handy 👍🏻👍🏻
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Xtreme toys offered a full refund and said the chain driven are now old stock ???, I've modified it now, so won't be sending it back. Its been easy enough, pull the pulley off, order the cog, push fit it on and secured with JB weld. Did my second one today, Getting good at it now, only one more to do for my partners van. Think I'll use the ebay link above, but I did get a notification saying he is running out of stock...............................I wonder who could be buying all these cog motors.....lol ;D ;)
Least you got it working innit. I got a refund on the 1, just the 4 sat here. I wanna get on with it. Probably just have to make do and modify them...why we should i dont know. Wonder why theyre changing them, surely there must be a stock of chain ones.
He's had the wrong stock delivered and making up a story.
I've seen a toothed belt but not the large pulley yet.
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I think this would be the one ;)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Rear-65T-Belt-Sprocket-for-Belt-Drive-Foldable-Scooter-Free-Shipping-T-Walker-Scooter/1302806326.html?spm=2114.40010508.4.12.7fTaGX
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Electric-Scooter-Rear-Belt-Pulley-Motor-65Teeth-Pulley-for-Belt-Drive-Motor-Belt-Sprocket-Scooter-Parts/32737680115.html?spm=2114.40010508.4.33.lyr9gz
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I think this would be the one ;)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Rear-65T-Belt-Sprocket-for-Belt-Drive-Foldable-Scooter-Free-Shipping-T-Walker-Scooter/1302806326.html?spm=2114.40010508.4.12.7fTaGX
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Electric-Scooter-Rear-Belt-Pulley-Motor-65Teeth-Pulley-for-Belt-Drive-Motor-Belt-Sprocket-Scooter-Parts/32737680115.html?spm=2114.40010508.4.33.lyr9gz
How would that work as its much thucker than a cog
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I think this would be the one ;)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Rear-65T-Belt-Sprocket-for-Belt-Drive-Foldable-Scooter-Free-Shipping-T-Walker-Scooter/1302806326.html?spm=2114.40010508.4.12.7fTaGX
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Electric-Scooter-Rear-Belt-Pulley-Motor-65Teeth-Pulley-for-Belt-Drive-Motor-Belt-Sprocket-Scooter-Parts/32737680115.html?spm=2114.40010508.4.33.lyr9gz
How would that work as its much thucker than a cog
It wouldn't, it was just that Spruce hadn't seen a large pulley yet, and I decided to have a google ;D
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I think this would be the one ;)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Rear-65T-Belt-Sprocket-for-Belt-Drive-Foldable-Scooter-Free-Shipping-T-Walker-Scooter/1302806326.html?spm=2114.40010508.4.12.7fTaGX
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Electric-Scooter-Rear-Belt-Pulley-Motor-65Teeth-Pulley-for-Belt-Drive-Motor-Belt-Sprocket-Scooter-Parts/32737680115.html?spm=2114.40010508.4.33.lyr9gz
How would that work as its much thucker than a cog
It wouldn't, it was just that Spruce hadn't seen a large pulley yet, and I decided to have a google ;D
;D
You're right. It wouldn't work for our application as the pulley is too wide. The suppliers of the motors with toothed pulleys don't list it as being available on their sites, so this would also indicate to me that they are making up a story.
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If you had a pipe bender you could make it I think
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https://youtu.be/zuX6ps9OqhQ
This really confused me but now it makes sense. I bought a 4 channel remote and altho this feature may be useless ive managed to wire it up to spin IN and OUT. Had a spare channel anyway. heres a diagram i found which came in very useful.
(http://www.remotecontroleverything.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/application-circuit1.jpg)
(http://www.remotecontroleverything.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/S4C-DCC-4-wiring.jpg)
I bought this switch, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131793343790?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=431161237728&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
and after hours of head scratching i found that you need to remove the jumper for it to work in a "momentary" fashion, which is what i wanted, in other words, i press button it turns reels on, i let go and it stops.
Hope this helps anyone, ask if you need any advice :)
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Couldn't get this to work with the two channel remote. It only jogs momentarily for about a second with finger pressed down on button and then stops. It only works when button pressed once ( reel runs ) and then pressed again to stop. I've already ordered another winch remote and relay and will have it so that when button is depressed it runs and stops when released. I just like the idea of having a main control unit in the vans and a hand held one on key ring etc...
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Couldn't get this to work with the two channel remote. It only jogs momentarily for about a second with finger pressed down on button and then stops. It only works when button pressed once ( reel runs ) and then pressed again to stop. I've already ordered another winch remote and relay and will have it so that when button is depressed it runs and stops when released. I just like the idea of having a main control unit in the vans and a hand held one on key ring etc...
Mate does your circuit have a little plastic jumper? I had to remove that to make it work momentarily correctly.
Heres a little video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njkuMDDlpD8
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Thanks m8, no there is no jumper on mine. Its no worries tho, I'm gonna go with the winch remote. It does what it needs to do and same price...ish ;)
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Cant take any credit for this, as i got my mate to do it but was my idea lol. For those of you with the annoying belt driven motors, it is possible to do them pretty neatly.
Heat up and remove
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/VWSaxon/IMG_2074.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/VWSaxon/media/IMG_2074.jpeg.html)
Cut end off and neaten up ridges to allow enough room for chain
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/VWSaxon/IMG_2075.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/VWSaxon/media/IMG_2075.jpeg.html)
Fit the cog in place
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/VWSaxon/IMG_2076.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/VWSaxon/media/IMG_2076.jpeg.html)
Refit circlip
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/VWSaxon/IMG_2077.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/VWSaxon/media/IMG_2077.jpeg.html)
:)
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That looks tidy m8, well done ;)
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That looks tidy m8, well done ;)
PS i got all the motors free :D well bar the cog, took some time but £4.50 a motor...what a bargain ;D
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That looks tidy m8, well done ;)
PS i got all the motors free :D well bar the cogs, took some time getting the refund but at £4.50 a motor(for cog)...what a bargain ;D
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Well I think my systems finally finished.
https://youtu.be/IGuSNzQJ88Y
Because I got motors for free it's cost me about £13.50 a reel. I'd say with a motor costing about £25 you could do each reel for £35 comfortably. The remotes were £9 for 2 remotes that can control 4 channels. So this setup has cost me about £36 for 2 remote controlled reels :) plus a few nuts, bolts and washers. Let's say £40 odd for my setup 8)
Oh I also fitted a switch inline with the remote transmitter as it doesn't turn off!
I also bought a fuse box from eBay so I can run multiple accessories off one point which I would recommend. Here's the link
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201755659496
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Used it all last week and it's been such a useful thing. Makes that one aspect so much easier. An example. Finishing as it's getting dark on Tuesday and we're tired. Both had hose out 100m in opposite directions. Me with my electric reel has it in half the time and with no effort whatsoever. Left me to get some slips through the door so we could be off.
People were joking about the hassle and just buying one off supplier ready made. But like me others have found you can spend very little compared to the powerup and have something that does the same job.
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Used it all last week and it's been such a useful thing. Makes that one aspect so much easier. An example. Finishing as it's getting dark on Tuesday and we're tired. Both had hose out 100m in opposite directions. Me with my electric reel has it in half the time and with no effort whatsoever. Left me to get some slips through the door so we could be off.
People were joking about the hassle and just buying one off supplier ready made. But like me others have found you can spend very little compared to the powerup and have something that does the same job.
Its not even hassle tho, just takes a little bit of figuring out. I reckon i could knock up a claber reel in about 30 mins now. And at £40 for 2 remote control reels...ill take a bit of time to figure it all out :) (would cost about £70 if i hadnt been sent wrong motors...even so £70 would be a steal!)
End of day, as with my WFP systems, id much prefer to make them up myself rather than get someone to make them, as if theres a problem, 9 times outta 10 you can fix them yourself without any hassle. I did have a system made for me last year, but i prefer mine to be honest. But as said these reels really arent that hard after making them up. Cog, chain...motor. Bit of drilling, jigging, and wiring. Done. So simple.
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Used two reels last week, both fitted with home made electric reels and worked a treat. Would find it a pain to manually reel again. Was even able on a few occasions to reel in out of sight of the van. I've now put the winch remote in my sons van so its just press an release. I would much rather build my own and have the satisfaction of seeing it working.......and knowing that if theres a problem I can usually pinpoint where it is. Great thread from the original poster as I wouldn't have otherwise known about it. Certainly making life easier for about 40 quid.......a few hiccups here and there, but that far outways the 200 - 300 quid for the pukka system.
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I had to go back last week to manual because I took everything apart over xmas and ordered me nicer fittings etc. I could defiantly tell at end of day! So all the bits came this week so been waiting to fit it all up nicely and finished today. Looking for other 12v things to run off my fusebox now. I have 10 spaces haha. LEDS in the back are my first thing because i cant see anything in there at night!
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Has anyone noticed a fair bit of resistance when pulling the hose off? Ive fitted 3 so far...and theyre not unbareable but a fair bit harder to pull out. Anyone else had this or have a solution/explanation? I know theres obviously going to be some with the motor on it etc etc.
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Has anyone noticed a fair bit of resistance when pulling the hose off? Ive fitted 3 so far...and theyre not unbareable but a fair bit harder to pull out. Anyone else had this or have a solution/explanation? I know theres obviously going to be some with the motor on it etc etc.
It's the reel. I brought the first version ( motor added to a petal reel from waterworks) hard to reel out.
Just upgraded to the hd version and it's so much easier.
It must be down to the reel
Tony
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I actually found that the chain was a little too tight, and the reel was harder to pull out. I loosened the chain and its so much easier. My son has a brand new reel in his van and its an absolute breeze to pull out, if you pull it too much it actually unravels freely....lol. Mines an older reel and the plastic bushes are worn a bit and theres a little more resistance, but no big deal. Wouldn't want to be without it now :) ;D
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The chain should have no more than 5mm movement according to the instructions that mine came with.
Love the fact that these are being DIY' d at a fraction of the cost.
Tony
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Like most things someone gets a good idea and makes a killing flogging stuff. But it don't take long to figure out how to make your own for the peeps are that way inclined at a fraction of the cost.
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Cheers for starting this thread a while ago, im playing catchup on making this work even easier for myself and attempting to sort out my own electric reel based on all these post.
I just wanted to add that i ordered this cog motor and it came on time and what i ordered, just incase others like me, find this thread later.
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-E-scooter-24-volt-300-watt-Motor-Chain-drive-/261310340549?txnId=1968200017016
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Yeah, it's a great thread. I'm glad you've kicked out back into the spotlight.
I've been thinking for a few weeks now,how to go about making my own powered reel. This thread has helped me identify certain items that are specifically useful. And areas of the market to get what I needed.
Big thanks to Kevin Quinn and others 👍
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1487668354_IMG_0679.JPG)
Just thought I'd share mine. Have it running off a 12v 7AH alarm battery so I can lift it out if I need to (very rare that I do). Built the wooden frame because my original was very bent. Also just use a momentary switch to control it.
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Also been using it for a month now with no problems. Its fantastic and so simple to build.
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Which is the remote that every one feels is the best value and simplest to set up
A link if possible
Thanks
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Also been using it for a month now with no problems. Its fantastic and so simple to build.
Looks good. Might want to think about fitting some sort of chain guard on it though. Best also to take the wind up handle off as you don't want to get hit by that when in use.
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So how much did that cost to do Philip
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What chain did you use and also where did you get the big cog from cheers kev
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So how much did that cost to do Philip
About 35 quid
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What for everything wow .you got any links for the cog and chains
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Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162242654285
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162383034331
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401051626914
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172514557621
All this is from the same ebay company
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To those that adapted the belt drive motors to take a sprocket. What sprocket did you use?
The one I ordered is 2 big and I have realised that the sprocket motor and belt motor have different size shafts.
Does anyone have a link to a correct size sprocket?
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Can someone put all links on for everything they have bought for the job where they haven't been let down with a supplier ie belt driven instead of cog and sprocket wrong size .and other question why would a belt driven one not be any good
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Can someone put all links on for everything they have bought for the job where they haven't been let down with a supplier ie belt driven instead of cog and sprocket wrong size .and other question why would a belt driven one not be any good
Belt drive would be fine. It's just harder to do because you can't shorten a belt like you can a chain. Belts also require the right tension to stop them slipping.
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What for everything wow .you got any links for the cog and chains
Just look on eBay I got my motor no problem from petrol scooter on eBay £26 a mate just bought from there and was sent the right one too. Cog was from a guy who bought wrong size for his bike on eBay £3 and the switch was £2 from maplin. Wire £2 and battery I already had. I had some 6mm chain from a customer.
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For the guys all ready using the home made set ups have you wired it up to your battery what you use with your pumps or are you using separate batteries if you are separate or same which batteries are you using and how often you having to charge them cheers kev
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I spent over half hr reading all posts from page one shen i looked into this and many were saying they had problems with suppliers sending wrong motors. Thats why my previous post i out a link to a motor as it came as it should. Also there are many threads on these pages for the cogs and chains, some are old links but it shows you what you need.
It also answers your question how they wired it up. Some use the battery they have and some also connect to wireless key fobs.
Me, i dont often need to move van or reel it all in and so i have one wire permanent to my leisure battery to my pump and then i simply touch other wire on, but i have them in close proximity.
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I had to take mine to bits. I'll try again when I get chance.
I had no end of problems with the chain jumping off. I messed with the tension and the length, I tried truing the cog up nothing.
It did my head in so ripped it out
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What type of hose are you all using that is so hard to wind in and putting all this strain on your shoulders . Is it garden hose , mini bore or something similar . It takes me about 20 seconds very easy no strain to wind 120 metres of pole hose in .
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What type of hose are you all using that is so hard to wind in and putting all this strain on your shoulders . Is it garden hose , mini bore or something similar . It takes me about 20 seconds very easy no strain to wind 120 metres of pole hose in .
Very well done 😁
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Thank you .
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What type of hose are you all using that is so hard to wind in and putting all this strain on your shoulders . Is it garden hose , mini bore or something similar . It takes me about 20 seconds very easy no strain to wind 120 metres of pole hose in .
Theres no strain, its just that we can do it in less than 5 seconds :P ;D
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no one any answers on the batteries
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I had to take mine to bits. I'll try again when I get chance.
I had no end of problems with the chain jumping off. I messed with the tension and the length, I tried truing the cog up nothing.
It did my head in so ripped it out
Have you tried a chain tensioner?
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192095993098
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no one any answers on the batteries
I use 7ah alarm system batteries. £7 off eBay. Switch out after two days but never seem flat. Takes 2 hours to recharge them.
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So let me get this right you use one of those small 7 amp batteries for the reel and you get two days out of them
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The reels really dont take that much power, your using them seconds at a time. 30 - 40 secs to pull in the whole reel, but how often do you use 100m? Ive got mine hooked up to van battery, which everything else is on. Never an issue.
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Nice gonna sort one out .another question for the guys who have used the remotes similar to the one s on the water works one how do you wire them up and also are you guys using a fuse if so what amp fuse
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dont know about the remote, but the hd reel has a 30amp car type fuse.
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Cheers buddy
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ok i want one whos making them then ;D
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Sorted mine. It was a stiff link in the chain.
So much better than manual winding. Its a jot to finish a house and press the button...no more sweating like a pig winding a load of hose bit that keeps getting snagged.
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Does anyone know if these motors from petrol scooters are in stock at its base or do they come straight from china and also has anyone bought one recently if so has it come as it's described with the cog or small sprocket attached cheers kev
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Does anyone know if these motors from petrol scooters are in stock at its base or do they come straight from china and also has anyone bought one recently if so has it come as it's described with the cog or small sprocket attached cheers kev
Mine arrive the next day even though it said 48hr delivery. It came with the correct cog (as described by ebay) the eBay company I used was "petrolscooter" and they sell everything you need. The chain link extractor they sell is NOT very good though.
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Do you think this is possible to do with an old bomb proof Hannay reel?
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The chain link splitters at petrol scooters that someone put a link up for is out of stock . Can anyone recommend a splitter for the chains cheers kev
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http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Moto-6mm-CHAIN-SPLIT-LINK-BREAK-TOOL-25H-Chains-Minimoto-Dirt-Bike-Quad-/172514557621?txnId=1666619330007
I ordered this the other day as i got one from another supplier. Paid 15quid for it as it came with additional pieces but bent a piston on it when extracting a pivot and then it snapped. So ordered above from same place where i bought my 6mm H25 chain.
I would have posted a pic of my finished result on the newish reel from purefreedom (bought 2yr back). It took some doing to dismantle and fit the cog but it will be well worth it. Ive secured the motor down and wired it all up with a on/off switch at side. Just have to wait on 2nd chain splitter now and hope no more mistakes and then i can post my finish result
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No longer available
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Just do a search for a 6mm chain splitter.
I didnt look through lists, but this was 1st on list, a little more pricier tho
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/TK012-CHAIN-SPLITTER-TOOL-FOR-6MM-8MM-CHAINS-LINK-REMOVER-49CC-MINI-BIKE-/361067513742?hash=item54114d078e%3Ag%3AyZAAAOSwQItUKnW3&_trkparms=pageci%253A4295924e-02a4-11e7-8a60-74dbd1804337%257Cparentrq%253Aa51fecc315a0a786ca6f1d86fffaeca4%257Ciid%253A1
Stay away from the red box set ones though. There the ones that broke straight away on me
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I take it that you want the splitter to get a link off and replace with the link pin so as to make the chain the right length and join it together again?
Of you're not too heavy handed, use a grinder and carefully grind away the head of the pins until flush with the link. Then use a knackered old Philips screwdriver or preferably a punch and tap out the pins. Rejoin chain with the split link part, clip back together 👍 simples !!
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I know some people have already put some photos up but can someone puts some photos up of wiring of remotes and maybe some more photos of their home made electric reels please
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Im still waiting on my chain splitter, but this is my reel so far (took a couple of snaps whilst fitting it). Needed to trim the spacer that came with the reel inorder to fit it together.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1488879222_Screenshot_2017-03-07-09-32-12.png)
I havent set up a remote, as personally im used to walking to van to wind up hose and saw no need for a remote as instead of manually winding, i just hit the on/off switch (£4 from asda, lol nice n easy)
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Just waiting on a chain splitter inorder to fit a gold H25 6mm chain
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When the hose is fully out the motor struggles to pull the hose in. But the more it's reeled in the faster it goes.
Can anyone help?
I use a 12v battery fully charged in good condition
100 meter 6mm hose (New)
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Finally got my chain fitted.
https://youtu.be/1rA-uefrUfk
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When the hose is fully out the motor struggles to pull the hose in. But the more it's reeled in the faster it goes.
Can anyone help?
I use a 12v battery fully charged in good condition
100 meter 6mm hose (New)
it will get faster as you reel in because it basically turns your reel into a flywheel. Do you have the full 100m out or do you bring your connector back to the van with you?
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had a mate spend over £100 on this project. he made it proper industrial with big pillow block bearings and running off 24v as he has a couple of hose guides that were causing too much resistance for 12v. i will post a pic from my phone.
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1489012603_IMG_1004.JPG)
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When the hose is fully out the motor struggles to pull the hose in. But the more it's reeled in the faster it goes.
Can anyone help?
I use a 12v battery fully charged in good condition
100 meter 6mm hose (New)
it will get faster as you reel in because it basically turns your reel into a flywheel. Do you have the full 100m out or do you bring your connector back to the van with you?
I bring the connector to the van then reel in
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did the block bearings help the rest ancestors?
Was thinking of doing something similar,
What inner diameter bearings were used?
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did the block bearings help the rest ancestors?
Was thinking of doing something similar,
What inner diameter bearings were used?
No he got the bearings as he didn't want to use his reel frame as it was worn I think. He solved his resistance issue by running on 24v.
He just has an annoyance of sometimes his reel keeps spinning after he's stopped so it goes slack and the hose goes over the outside of the reel. He's thinking of solving that with a brush to put some friction on the reel.
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Who's used petrol scooters and what they like as a company. I ordered my motor and other stuff Monday night and I'm still waiting for confirmation and delivery
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Who's used petrol scooters and what they like as a company. I ordered my motor and other stuff Monday night and I'm still waiting for confirmation and delivery
I did they were good for me. Ring them I rang them to order. The girl was very nice and helpful.
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Will do cheers
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Who's used petrol scooters and what they like as a company. I ordered my motor and other stuff Monday night and I'm still waiting for confirmation and delivery
My order arrived quickly from them. (chain, motor, sprocket)
I ordered a chain splitter from them that broke, they were quick to sent me a replacement
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The chain splitters were not in stock that's the only thing I haven't ordered
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An issue I had with petal type reel was driving me mad. The cog kept having too much side to side play and the chain jumping off all day. I tried all sorts to fix it. Eventually I realised when you strip the reel down that both side of it push together into a plastic central piece. What happens in use is it starts to come apart throwing the cog of centre. I don't think the petal reels are the best choice for this conversion for that reason. I'm going to try to tape mine together at the weekend otherwise I'll buy a different type of reel maybe a man's parts one.
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An issue I had with petal type reel was driving me mad. The cog kept having too much side to side play and the chain jumping off all day. I tried all sorts to fix it. Eventually I realised when you strip the reel down that both side of it push together into a plastic central piece. What happens in use is it starts to come apart throwing the cog of centre. I don't think the petal reels are the best choice for this conversion for that reason. I'm going to try to tape mine together at the weekend otherwise I'll buy a different type of reel maybe a man's parts one.
I had to trim the red spacers that came with the newish pure freedom reel. I still have a little side to side play, but the screws ive used are a little long on purpose and act like a buffer to stop movement too much. Been using it all week with no problems and like a big kid, smiling at the ease of work now.
Can you buy some spacers to fit it instead of cost of a new reel?
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An issue I had with petal type reel was driving me mad. The cog kept having too much side to side play and the chain jumping off all day. I tried all sorts to fix it. Eventually I realised when you strip the reel down that both side of it push together into a plastic central piece. What happens in use is it starts to come apart throwing the cog of centre. I don't think the petal reels are the best choice for this conversion for that reason. I'm going to try to tape mine together at the weekend otherwise I'll buy a different type of reel maybe a man's parts one.
I have the same reel, its almost 10 years old, but have not experienced that issue. I wonder if you have the plastic Bushes in correct. The thick part of the bushes should be on the inside
Could you load a picture that shows the spindle and spacers.?
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Same here, I've just ordered all the bits. I've gone for a winch remote as I think it will have a stop/start function ( as in depress to wind in and release to stop ). These are the bits I've ordered. My van has a 12v auxillary in the back so gonna connect to this via a cigarette lighter ( just got to find out if its a constant live feed, rather than having ignition on. Will let you know how I get on. The only thing quizzing me at the moment is how you got the cog directly centred on the reel to stop it going out of concentric.
I might be lucky as the cog I've ordered has 3 pre drilled holes in a triangular template, same as reel, but I very much doubt they will line up...lol, That would be asking too much ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162242654285?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=461221616473&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162295001499?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401051626914?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301400291143?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=600371081188&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331880249230?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
nice little project :) About £48.00 in total, and went for the gold " bling " chain cos I live in Essex ;) ;D pmsl
Also dumping this 100m of 15mm thermobore as its a bloody pain in the arse, too much stress on the reel and a nightmare to reel in and out. We use cold water anyway and thought the thermobore would be good for anti kink.... but its not !!
fieldsy how did you get on with all the bits and how's the remote working for you .also any chance of letting me know how to wire the remote to the battery and motor because I ain't got a clue
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Just keeping thread open till fieldsy get up 😁
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Has fieldsy left country or something ???
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Just a few queries before I order.
I have just been looking at petrolscooter store on eBay and getting confused with the specs.
- Sprocket - How many teeth should it have?
- Motor - How many Watts? 250? And differences between MY and ZY etc
- Chain - How many links/rivets?
Really looking forward to getting started making this.
Thanks
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In one of posts fieldsy uses a winch remote does anyone know How to properly wire it up to the motor .fieldsy seems to have disappeared of the forum
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This is for everyone that's built a diy electric reel what switch are you using to power the reel cheers kev
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This is for everyone that's built a diy electric reel what switch are you using to power the reel cheers kev
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1489357726_Screenshot_2017-03-12-22-26-52.png)
I dont use a remote, its just a simple on off switch from asda of all places. Cost just less than £5 and easy to wire up. I like to keep things simple
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How's it been for you Nathan
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How's it been for you Nathan
Im enjoying how easy it is. Even though huge majority of my work is compact, i still have the odd ones that i have to unload to do, which is a foot in the doorway of areas i want to expand into. But it takes me longer to unload and reload van than it xoes to clean some of these jobs, so a bit of a pain really. But now its soo easy.
I think big difference will be when summer really kicks in and instead of wasting energy winding hose in, this will make a big difference.
The switch is easy and on plenty of wire so i can hold switch in one hand and guide hose in other.
Chains come off a couple of times but thats down to my diy skills. Basically i need to replace some screws with flat head screws instead of my current oval head ones. If that makes sense. But overall, im really pleased with it and the relative ease of construction.
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anyone who's having issues with the petal reels spreading, just put some self tapping screws through the plastic hub into the metal sides. problem solved, Mine started spreading before I built my electric one, its a common issue I believe. another method I've seen is to put a threaded bar through the centre and put a washer and bolt on each end.
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I'm here.....lol. I'll answer q's tomorrow. Both reels are working fine. Would never go back to manual reeling again.
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Omg fieldsy your alive and kicking 😁
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How's it been for you Nathan
Im enjoying how easy it is. Even though huge majority of my work is compact, i still have the odd ones that i have to unload to do, which is a foot in the doorway of areas i want to expand into. But it takes me longer to unload and reload van than it xoes to clean some of these jobs, so a bit of a pain really. But now its soo easy.
I think big difference will be when summer really kicks in and instead of wasting energy winding hose in, this will make a big difference.
The switch is easy and on plenty of wire so i can hold switch in one hand and guide hose in other.
Chains come off a couple of times but thats down to my diy skills. Basically i need to replace some screws with flat head screws instead of my current oval head ones. If that makes sense. But overall, im really pleased with it and the relative ease of construction.
Fixed the chain coming off by adding a small spacer so the chain links are not hitting the bolts holding the main reel in place and it works a treat.
Same as going onto wfp and hot water...."should have done this ages ago"
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https://youtu.be/_R5AANCJA1I
https://youtu.be/b3QQMedXPMk
I now have a winch remote connected to this reel, rather than the on/off in this video, works so much better and full control.
https://youtu.be/zuX6ps9OqhQ
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Fieldsy what I want to know is how do you wire the winch remote to the motor, there is a red n black and yellow and white I think the instructions don't make sense to me and also did you use a relay and what size fuse did you use sorry for all questions but all you help n info would be much appreciated cheers kev
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I used a 30amp relay with built in fuse. The wiring is pretty straight forward. The white wire on the winch doesn't get used. I'll hook out my diagram for connections and post it up ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282011962570?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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I got a small switch from Maplins for mine. When you press it, reels in, if you release, it stops. I did this for safety. Cuts the power straight away. I've also rigged it up at shoulder height and out of the way of the reel. So no leaning over . I have a tag in my right hand, cleans the hose as I'm reeling in and my left-hand on the switch.............easy :D
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Rigsbys sounds an easier option, and yh I like having control over the reel. Press with one finger, rag in the other hand. The only reason I went for the winch remote is that it had the key fob remote aswell, so I had both options.............and I'm a gadget man. Post the link to the switch Rigsby and it may help Kev out :) ...rather than the wiring of the relay.
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Rigsbys sounds an easier option, and yh I like having control over the reel. Press with one finger, rag in the other hand. The only reason I went for the winch remote is that it had the key fob remote aswell, so I had both options.............and I'm a gadget man. Post the link to the switch Rigsby and it may help Kev out :) ...rather than the wiring of the relay.
Lol, same here. I've also got the winch remote, but haven't fitted it yet!! :P
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Here's the switch link. http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/everel-16a-rocker-switch-on-off-spst-black-gu49d
I only had one in my pack. I fitted spade connections to the wires, then to the switch.
Also, there are two holes in the switch that you can use to mount it to a frame ( I have a wooden bar going from one side of the van to the other, shoulder height,) using a couple of screws.
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I already have the same winch remote as you fieldsy just need to know how to wire it all up it's the only thing that's holding me up
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Here ya go m8, Sorry it looks a bit confusing, but its much easier when its laid out in front of you. I have colour co ordinated the relay wires and the switch wires so that you know which goes where, You will need some extra wiring to make the connections to reach etc.... The blue circles are where I made the connections with bullet or spade terminals.
Let me know how you get on. Be careful when stripping the switch wires as they are very fragile.
https://youtu.be/exdTVdVhJaA
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Cheers fieldsy will let you know how I get on ☺👍
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Quick question fieldsy where different coloured wires join it's just for the wiring diagram isn't it
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the wires leading from the switch are the exact colours as are the ones coming from the relay up to the point of the blue dots. Anything else is extra wire I added, other than the motor wires
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So what's the white wire used for
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I used a 30amp relay with built in fuse. The wiring is pretty straight forward. The white wire on the winch doesn't get used. I'll hook out my diagram for connections and post it up ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282011962570?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
The clue is in the post ;) it would be for reeling out the winch
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I thought it might be that ☺👍
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Let us know how it holds up. I want one but buying is wasting the pound atm cannot justify it.
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Finally got it all up and running on one of my trusty Hannay reels.
Managed to fix the motor to the frame of the reel too, so that it's a complete unit when I move it around.
It works great and saves a lot of time and energy. The only problem I had was when it got snagged when reeling in and it blew the 20amp fuse I had. Changed that to a 30amp now and be more aware of snags.
I have just ordered another set for my 2nd reel.
Thanks everyone for sharing their findings.
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Looks great traffic, neat and tidy. Good job mate. 👍
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Nice one
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Are all those links all that I need to make my own electric reel?
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Are all those links all that I need to make my own electric reel?
Pretty much as all you need is the motor (ensure it has a cog on for chain drive), a cog and a chain.
Oh and some patience whilst you do the build
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Cool, Ive gone and bought all the (basic pieces) I need.
I have a spare reel to tinker with so I will use that and buy the remote and other parts next week.
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I have all the parts now.. spent a couple of hours sorting out my base and another hour putting the motor on the base (had to remove all the nails lol)
just need to wire it in and test and ill have it up and running... i have photos, will upload them later this week
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Is there a way to reverse the motor?
I used a 30amp relay with built in fuse. The wiring is pretty straight forward. The white wire on the winch doesn't get used. I'll hook out my diagram for connections and post it up ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282011962570?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
The clue is in the post ;) it would be for reeling out the winch
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Figured out how to reverse the motor..
But snapped the chain...
It's my reel. The sprocket is not on straight.
Does anyone now a good reel that I can bolt the sprocket onto?
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I have successfully put an electric motor to a claber reel and a petal type reel.
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I give up with my hose reel... It's just never going to take a sprocket.. I've been messing around for 4 hours and realised it just won't work...
Does anyone know of a metal reel that priced ok and will fit a sprocket... Please...
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I have another car battery in back of van linked to my main battery. If i built I could sell for £300 Inc vat an delivery. But I may just get the fixings manafacturerd . Either way I'll put full instructions with video on line. It's simple to make . Those motors are really tough and last year's. If they did need replacing what's £23?
where is the full instructions with video!
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I sorted it all out. Today was my first day working with a electric reel... I shortened the chain and moved the motor closer so it doesn't wobble and fall off. 1 hickup this morning but after 10 minutes of fiddling I carried on working. Well chuffed..
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I sorted it all out. Today was my first day working with a electric reel... I shortened the chain and moved the motor closer so it doesn't wobble and fall off. 1 hickup this morning but after 10 minutes of fiddling I carried on working. Well chuffed..
Come on then, we need a photo or a vid