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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: koopmaster on November 18, 2016, 07:06:59 pm
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does anyone here do 1k a week a lot?
I worked my arse of this week and was 20 shy but that beccause I was so sick last week and behind.
lst time I did this was ages ago. plus im getting older and slower 42 .... dosent sound that old but it i guess it was a lot wasier if i was 32
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Is this a genuine question or a Look At Me?
BTW how big is your emergency fund?
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if its raining yes, easy
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A week? :o maybe a month.
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does anyone here do 1k a week a lot?
I worked my arse of this week and was 20 shy but that beccause I was so sick last week and behind.
lst time I did this was ages ago. plus im getting older and slower 42 .... dosent sound that old but it i guess it was a lot wasier if i was 32
yes and im older than you(45) ;D
i do shorter days than 10 years ago but go to the gym 4 times a week now which i never did 10 years ago!
i dont fanny about while at work either now.im very organised and always take a flask and a packed lunch.
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Yes it can be done - but I doubt if many one man bands translate that into 52K in a year - what with hols and sickness. So you might get a couple of 1K weeks in a month and a couple of (say) £800 weeks.
But there is no reason why anyone who is reasonably able cannot turnover over 40K a year if he has a van and wfp and is prepared to be organised, have enough work and be prepared to work 5 days a week. Of course he will have to work in most weather too. ;)
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If I only worked four days a week I might earn a grand. Normally nearly double that. I do go to the gym a lot and eat blueberries for breakfast.
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What, for real....thought you guys were like me n knock that out in a day
;D lol
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If I only worked four days a week I might earn a grand. Normally nearly double that. I do go to the gym a lot and eat blueberries for breakfast.
;D ;D ;D
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Hey Barry, do you occassionally buy water for work?
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A grand a week is easily doable in the south east ONCE you have the work. That won't be quick or easy.
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£10 per house, that's 100 houses, I would say 3 days, why it taking you a week?🤔
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I normally do about £250 - £300 a day but £300 is usually nailing it and it's hard to do that everyday .... I would say 1k over 5 days is easy to do if you have the work .... some weeks I can do about 1k and other weeks about £1300 depending...... ye but a grand a week isn't unreasonable at all
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That's good James, so you must be turning over 100k a year with your twin stack reels?
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You can’t earn a grand a week then Dave?
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Who cares, seriously can you guys not see how childish these threads are, your like a bunch of kids arguing over who gets the
most pocket money.
And don't get me started on the flash with his 33 houses per day. (roll eyes)
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You like oggling kids Sean?
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Who cares, seriously can you guys not see how childish these threads are, your like a bunch of kids arguing over who gets the
most pocket money.
And don't get me started on the flash with his 33 houses per day. (roll eyes)
Is that the guy on Facebook? He smashes them out I believe.
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Not being funny but if the guys that work for me only did a grand in a week I would have to ask what went wrong! We work to average above £300 a day per head. Below £300 is seen as a low day! 1 of my 9 cleaners only managed £280 yesterday and that was because he was an hour late in the morning with car trouble. He's also only been with us 4 weeks and had never done the job before. Shows how easy it is to do those numbers. Experienced long established guys out there should find it easy to do more than £1000 on a week!!!
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Hey Barry, do you occassionally buy water for work?
Why are you asking that Slack ?
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Who cares, seriously can you guys not see how childish these threads are, your like a bunch of kids arguing over who gets the
most pocket money.
And don't get me started on the flash with his 33 houses per day. (roll eyes)
Is that the guy on Facebook? He smashes them out I believe.
Not sure, just going by his post above 100 houses in 3 days.
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Not being funny but if the guys that work for me only did a grand in a week I would have to ask what went wrong! We work to average above £300 a day per head. Below £300 is seen as a low day! 1 of my 9 cleaners only managed £280 yesterday and that was because he was an hour late in the morning with car trouble. He's also only been with us 4 weeks and had never done the job before. Shows how easy it is to do those numbers. Experienced long established guys out there should find it easy to do more than £1000 on a week!!!
Why would you need to ask ? could you not have seen what went wrong on your 50inch plasmas. lol.
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I wish this wasn't a public forum...
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Hey Barry, do you occassionally buy water for work?
Why are you asking that Slack ?
Just wondering mate. I think Ross knows you doesn’t he?
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Hey Barry, do you occassionally buy water for work?
Why are you asking that Slack ?
Just wondering mate. I think Ross knows you doesn’t he?
Yeah, we know each other.
I did, for many years, run a 4040 from my flat out to my van. It became way too time consuming , even if I could manage to park close enough to my front door ! I now buy my water from another cleaner until I move.
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Not being funny but if the guys that work for me only did a grand in a week I would have to ask what went wrong! We work to average above £300 a day per head. Below £300 is seen as a low day! 1 of my 9 cleaners only managed £280 yesterday and that was because he was an hour late in the morning with car trouble. He's also only been with us 4 weeks and had never done the job before. Shows how easy it is to do those numbers. Experienced long established guys out there should find it easy to do more than £1000 on a week!!!
Hi Lee,
Not a dig... But I've heard reports from my way that people have booked cleans in with you, but no one ever turns up? You might want to check with whoever answers the phone that they are booking in the work correctly?
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Not been reading every post, but i would say it all depends on lacality and most importantly a persons pricing strategy.
For instance, ive seen and some have posted on here, how some shiners are charging £5 per house and sometimes less than that. It would take such cleaners quite a while to earn a descent wage per week or month.
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I wish this wasn't a public forum...
You think people spend time searching out the sordid $hite that window cleaners chinwag about. Seriously?
No, seriously, you really really think they’ve nothing to do better with their lives than that?
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You can’t earn a grand a week then Dave?
I did earn £250 once but that was for seven days before the clocks changed.
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Says it all really mate. You'll criticise the content of the thread then be a brick when you're asked a constructive question.
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;D charming!
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You're welcome. 8)
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Not being funny but if the guys that work for me only did a grand in a week I would have to ask what went wrong! We work to average above £300 a day per head. Below £300 is seen as a low day! 1 of my 9 cleaners only managed £280 yesterday and that was because he was an hour late in the morning with car trouble. He's also only been with us 4 weeks and had never done the job before. Shows how easy it is to do those numbers. Experienced long established guys out there should find it easy to do more than £1000 on a week!!!
Lee, where do you source your staff from?
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There's only two reasons I don't earn that sort of money each week and they are because I am lazy and I don't have to.
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Not being funny but if the guys that work for me only did a grand in a week I would have to ask what went wrong! We work to average above £300 a day per head. Below £300 is seen as a low day! 1 of my 9 cleaners only managed £280 yesterday and that was because he was an hour late in the morning with car trouble. He's also only been with us 4 weeks and had never done the job before. Shows how easy it is to do those numbers. Experienced long established guys out there should find it easy to do more than £1000 on a week!!!
Hi Lee,
Not a dig... But I've heard reports from my way that people have booked cleans in with you, but no one ever turns up? You might want to check with whoever answers the phone that they are booking in the work correctly?
Well that's news to me mate. We never miss a customer and our round is exactly in time right now. If someone called and said this we would be able to check on the van trackers if we had been or not. However this doesn't happen. There was a point in the mid summer where we got about 2 weeks behind due to taking on so many new houses at once. Other than that short time there haven't been any problems. We all know what the public can be like when it comes to saying things like that.
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Not being funny but if the guys that work for me only did a grand in a week I would have to ask what went wrong! We work to average above £300 a day per head. Below £300 is seen as a low day! 1 of my 9 cleaners only managed £280 yesterday and that was because he was an hour late in the morning with car trouble. He's also only been with us 4 weeks and had never done the job before. Shows how easy it is to do those numbers. Experienced long established guys out there should find it easy to do more than £1000 on a week!!!
Lee, where do you source your staff from?
The job centre online and/or indeed online. I prefer people who haven't done it before. We train them over 7 working days then they get their own van. Start them off at that point with about £200 on a worksheet and over the following 2 weeks build them up to a normal days worksheet which is £300-£350
I will admit getting good people has been the hardest part of this years project but we seem to have a solid and reliable 9 right now. We still have 2 new vans sat in the yard each day so will be trying to fill those over the next 8 months
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You can't compare an owner/cleaner vs employee.
Employee won't care as much etc.
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Not being funny but if the guys that work for me only did a grand in a week I would have to ask what went wrong! We work to average above £300 a day per head. Below £300 is seen as a low day! 1 of my 9 cleaners only managed £280 yesterday and that was because he was an hour late in the morning with car trouble. He's also only been with us 4 weeks and had never done the job before. Shows how easy it is to do those numbers. Experienced long established guys out there should find it easy to do more than £1000 on a week!!!
Lee, where do you source your staff from?
The job centre online and/or indeed online. I prefer people who haven't done it before. We train them over 7 working days then they get their own van. Start them off at that point with about £200 on a worksheet and over the following 2 weeks build them up to a normal days worksheet which is £300-£350
I will admit getting good people has been the hardest part of this years project but we seem to have a solid and reliable 9 right now. We still have 2 new vans sat in the yard each day so will be trying to fill those over the next 8 months
Any particular age range you've found is better suited?
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Lee I assume you also omit the prices from their daily job sheets?
Otherwise if you did not you could soon have mutiny on yer hands...Arrr! ;D
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You can't compare an owner/cleaner vs employee.
Employee won't care as much etc.
That's actually quite wrong. We tell our customers that we guarantee all our work, if they arnt happy we re do it for free. If my cleaners get to manycomplaints or don't do a good job they get the sack. Everything is monitored. I also take on people who were earning quite a bit less in their last job so I would say they do care about doing a good job. The fact we make good money each day is nothing to do with being slap dash as your post implies. My team go out at 7am, work till 4,have large 700l tanks each so can work with a high flow. Our work is very well priced and routed in the best order each day. Believe me those things all add up.
Matt to answer you the age really doesn't matter. I thought it did but experience especially this year has taught me that everyone is different. I have a guy who is 22 and is honestly one of the best I've had in years.
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Lee I assume you also omit the prices from their daily job sheets?
Otherwise if you did not you could soon have mutiny on yer hands...Arrr! ;D
No I don't. How would they bill the customer? They also get paid a % of their day so they are very aware of what they generate. Those numbers also go up each day on the office whiteboard.
A good employment contract stops the mutiny. I spent £3k on ours with a very good employment specialist.
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Why do they need to bill the customer as it's not them the customers are paying surely ???
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Why do they need to bill the customer as it's not them the customers are paying surely ???
Er? So we get paid! Lol....... Am I missing something?
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You can't compare an owner/cleaner vs employee.
Employee won't care as much etc.
That's actually quite wrong. We tell our customers that we guarantee all our work, if they arnt happy we re do it for free. If my cleaners get to manycomplaints or don't do a good job they get the sack. Everything is monitored. I also take on people who were earning quite a bit less in their last job so I would say they do care about doing a good job. The fact we make good money each day is nothing to do with being slap dash as your post implies. My team go out at 7am, work till 4,have large 700l tanks each so can work with a high flow. Our work is very well priced and routed in the best order each day. Believe me those things all add up.
Matt to answer you the age really doesn't matter. I thought it did but experience especially this year has taught me that everyone is different. I have a guy who is 22 and is honestly one of the best I've had in years.
Where does it say in my post anything todo with cleaning abilities.
Do you think your cleaners know the dogs name? When Mrs jones birthday is etc etc. It's a job. They don't have a interest in the customer.
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Why do they need to bill the customer as it's not them the customers are paying surely ???
Er? So we get paid! Lol....... Am I missing something?
I would have thought you would have a system in place for all that by now surely ::)roll
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True they don't know those things. However it really doesn't matter. People forget that I spent many years as a single operator on my own. Both trad then wfp. Yes I knew all my customers well, the dogs name ect ect, and I miss those days. From a business point of view it makes absolutely no difference. I feel very qualified to make that statement having been at both ends of this business. People want clean windows not a friend.
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Why do they need to bill the customer as it's not them the customers are paying surely ???
Er? So we get paid! Lol....... Am I missing something?
I would have thought you would have a system in place for all that by now surely ::)roll
We do. Putting a bill card through the door is part of that system. Even for direct debit customers it's still nice to acknowledge we have been at their house today.
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Why do they need to bill the customer as it's not them the customers are paying surely ???
Er? So we get paid! Lol....... Am I missing something?
I would have thought you would have a system in place for all that by now surely ::)roll
We do. Putting a bill card through the door is part of that system. Even for direct debit customers it's still nice to acknowledge we have been at their house today.
Bill card :o That is so last year Lee lol
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Lee I assume you also omit the prices from their daily job sheets?
Otherwise if you did not you could soon have mutiny on yer hands...Arrr! ;D
No I don't. How would they bill the customer? They also get paid a % of their day so they are very aware of what they generate. Those numbers also go up each day on the office whiteboard.
A good employment contract stops the mutiny. I spent £3k on ours with a very good employment specialist.
I think what Smurf is getting at is that any worker with half a brain is soon going to work out how lucrative the window cleaning business can be. I know I did. Lets face it , its not exactly rocket science. They will soon realise they are lining somebody elses pockets and with a bit of effort can achieve the same for them self. They then no longer have ( if they don't want to ) start work at 7 am in a howling wind/ freezing cold/ torrential rain to earn a living wage ( or there abouts ) .
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Lee I assume you also omit the prices from their daily job sheets?
Otherwise if you did not you could soon have mutiny on yer hands...Arrr! ;D
No I don't. How would they bill the customer? They also get paid a % of their day so they are very aware of what they generate. Those numbers also go up each day on the office whiteboard.
A good employment contract stops the mutiny. I spent £3k on ours with a very good employment specialist.
I think what Smurf is getting at is that any worker with half a brain is soon going to work out how lucrative the window cleaning business can be. I know I did. Lets face it , its not exactly rocket science. They will soon realise they are lining somebody elses pockets and with a bit of effort can achieve the same for them self. They then no longer have ( if they don't want to ) start work at 7 am in a howling wind/ freezing cold/ torrential rain to earn a living wage ( or there abouts ) .
Exactly my point and it doesn't matter how much you spend on an employee contract as if they want to do the dirty on you try inforcing it. Between the 9 of them they have your full customer list and prices too lol
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True they don't know those things. However it really doesn't matter. People forget that I spent many years as a single operator on my own. Both trad then wfp. Yes I knew all my customers well, the dogs name ect ect, and I miss those days. From a business point of view it makes absolutely no difference. I feel very qualified to make that statement having been at both ends of this business. People want clean windows not a friend.
That proves my comment, thanks.
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Lee I assume you also omit the prices from their daily job sheets?
Otherwise if you did not you could soon have mutiny on yer hands...Arrr! ;D
No I don't. How would they bill the customer? They also get paid a % of their day so they are very aware of what they generate. Those numbers also go up each day on the office whiteboard.
A good employment contract stops the mutiny. I spent £3k on ours with a very good employment specialist.
I think what Smurf is getting at is that any worker with half a brain is soon going to work out how lucrative the window cleaning business can be. I know I did. Lets face it , its not exactly rocket science. They will soon realise they are lining somebody elses pockets and with a bit of effort can achieve the same for them self. They then no longer have ( if they don't want to ) start work at 7 am in a howling wind/ freezing cold/ torrential rain to earn a living wage ( or there abouts ) .
Exactly my point and it doesn't matter how much you spend on an employee contract as if they want to do the dirty on you try inforcing it. Between the 9 of them they have your full customer list and prices lol
Its not so much doing the dirty though Smurf, to steal customers would be low and underhand and Lee sounds like he's written that in to a contract. I have no idea what Lee's employment contract stipulates but doubt very much that it could prevent an employee going solo. Surely, that would be an infringement of their human rights ? and like you say - if that were the case, could it be enforced ? :-\ But pricing - any idiot is going to work that out for themselves and if they have the inclination will do it for themselves eventually.
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I hear what your saying but it just doesn't happen. There are lots of cleaners that employ. There's a very big difference between going to work, going home and forgetting it and getting paid, compared to working for yourself or running a business. Most just don't have it in them. I also now pay around the 25-27k mark which is good money for the stress free job they can forget after 5pm. No admin, no expenses, no messing from customers, no vehicle maintenance and the list goes on as you well know. Enforcing a contract is easy if you bother to get a proper contract. Otherwise why would any business have one if they don't work.
I worked as an advertising sales manager for the daily mail. I ran a team of 6 people which hit annual sales of about 2million pounds. I personally sold about a quarter of that. Did I leave and set up my own agency expecting to pay myself 500k a year? No I didn't. My point is lots of jobs in lots of industries have their staff generating large numbers that they can see. Doesn't mean they all run off and set up on their own.
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Lets wait and see when you have the other two van on the road if it takes that long. Regardless how much you are paying them I'm betting at least one will stab you in the back.
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Some people have greener eyes than others, and you never know whose watching.
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Lets wait and see when you have the other two van on the road if it takes that long. Regardless how much you are paying them I'm betting at least one will stab you in the back.
I'm not sure if you do or don't know but I've been employing for 8 of the 12 years I've had the business so I don't think I need to wait and see. I've waited 8 years and seen nothing. What else are we waiting for?
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So are you saying in all that time no worker you have taken on has done the dirty on you?.. Come on tell the truth now :P
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Lol joking aside I see what your saying. If someone wants to leave and set up on their own then good luck to them. They will need it. I guess it would be hard to stop them. It would also be hard to stop me following them, noting all their customer address and putting a letter through each of their doors on the same day offering them free window cleaning for a year. I wonder who would say no to that. So that's him out of business over night.
Oh I'm only joking 😉
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So my point is why the hell are you letting them see your prices on their daily job sheets when they don't need to know. ;D
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How do you generate new work my Pryor ?
Just interested in how someone successful like you builds their rounds ?
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So my point is why the hell are you letting them see your prices on their daily job sheets when they don't need to know. ;D
I answered that. Because most of what they are paid is a % bonus of the amount they do each day. They also bill the customer.
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How do you generate new work my Pryor ?
Just interested in how someone successful like you builds their rounds ?
You sell your house, plow all of the money in to your business for new vans, plasma screens and marketing and move back in to your mum and dads . :-X :-X :-X ;)
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How do you generate new work my Pryor ?
Just interested in how someone successful like you builds their rounds ?
Leafleting and door knocking. Mostly leafleting.
After that its website and sign written vans.
Next year I plan to employ 4 full time door knockers who will leaflet at the same time.
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How do you generate new work my Pryor ?
Just interested in how someone successful like you builds their rounds ?
You sell your house, plow all of the money in to your business for new vans, plasma screens and marketing and move back in to your mum and dads . :-X :-X :-X ;)
Hope it pays off then .
We Asians would do the same but we do it the other way .
We stay in the family home and build the business and keep building it then move out and buy a big house 🏡
MOD Note: As a new poster - "Balraj" just a thought - please be careful not to attribute certain practices to certain races - can you believe that others may respond in a way that gets reported as "racist" and have their posts modified?
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Think you omitted the millon a3 flyer drop there Barry ::)roll
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How do you generate new work my Pryor ?
Just interested in how someone successful like you builds their rounds ?
You sell your house, plow all of the money in to your business for new vans, plasma screens and marketing and move back in to your mum and dads . :-X :-X :-X ;)
Lol that's funny.
I just love how the plasma screens still get so much stick. Honestly they are a great addition to the office. We have one showing the van trackers all day and the other with either music or films on if we're quiet. At the end of the day I can use mine to show the cleaners their work list for the next day ect. There great! Plasma screens are cheap these days. I think they were £300 each in the Easter sale. Plus I got the vat back. Cheap and very useful/nice to have.
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Think you omitted the millon a3 flyer drop there Barry ::)roll
Funny you should say that, a couple of my customers passed them to me. ;)
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How do you generate new work my Pryor ?
Just interested in how someone successful like you builds their rounds ?
You sell your house, plow all of the money in to your business for new vans, plasma screens and marketing and move back in to your mum and dads . :-X :-X :-X ;)
Hope it pays off then .
We Asians would do the same but we do it the other way .
We stay in the family home and build the business and keep building it then move out and buy a big house 🏡
No disrespect Balraj MODDED - please do not make assertions that could be viewed as racist - Hence your prices mention earlier in your Hi post says it all really ::)roll
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How do you generate new work my Pryor ?
Just interested in how someone successful like you builds their rounds ?
You sell your house, plow all of the money in to your business for new vans, plasma screens and marketing and move back in to your mum and dads . :-X :-X :-X ;)
Lol that's funny.
I just love how the plasma screens still get so much stick. Honestly they are a great addition to the office. We have one showing the van trackers all day and the other with either music or films on if we're quiet. At the end of the day I can use mine to show the cleaners their work list for the next day ect. There great! Plasma screens are cheap these days. I think they were £300 each in the Easter sale. Plus I got the vat back. Cheap and very useful/nice to have.
Relax Lee,
Glad you found it funny, its all in jest after all :D
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Think you omitted the millon a3 flyer drop there Barry ::)roll
Something wrong with doing that many smurf? What I'm doing seems to genuinely offend some people on here? Why is that? Why does it matter to anyone else what I do. It seems like a joke to some people but that is exactly what I've done. We are nearly at 60k a month turn over. Aiming for 75k by the end of next year.
For those that take the p out of what I've done and the fact I live with family, what sort of house do you think I will be in by the time I'm taking home 15k a month after tax? Fact is I loved my house and already had a decent business with 5 vans out. It took a lot of strength to take the risk I have this year. I doubt many on here would have the balks to attempt half of what I have. You carry on taking the p guys. It will make no difference to me.
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However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a challenge they could quite easily turnover net what you pay them themselves working a lot less hours than you make them work. You know this is true as you use to be a sole trader too.
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Hi Lee, who do you use for your leafleting?
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
First they have to find the work. Not easy when you're employed full time. That even assumes they would be interested in chucking a £500 a week job whicj is more than lots of guyts on here earn - certainly in their first year or two.
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
Give it a rest smurf , some of us actually take note of the guys with bigger businesses and look up to them. why are you so bothered about lees employees taking work off him but yet you don't say anything to 'sunshine' . Obviously your not interested in growing your business like lee Pryor but yet you pick at everything he does , stop being a child
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
First they have to find the work. Not easy when you're employed full time. That even assumes they would be interested in chucking a £500 a week job whicj is more than lots of guyts on here earn - certainly in their first year or two.
One render clean a week is all it would take. 500 squid or more is a days work to some ::)roll
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
First they have to find the work. Not easy when you're employed full time. That even assumes they would be interested in chucking a £500 a week job whicj is more than lots of guyts on here earn - certainly in their first year or two.
One render clean a week is all it would take. 500 squid or more is a days work to some ::)roll
I thought Lee employed window cleaners? That's like saying one roofing job a week. It's a different job.
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
Give it a rest smurf , some of us actually take note of the guys with bigger businesses and look up to them. why are you so bothered about lees employees taking work off him but yet you don't say anything to 'sunshine' . Obviously your not interested in growing your business like lee Pryor but yet you pick at everything he does , stop being a child
Sunshine happens to be a mate of mine that I respect.
Anyway I am not trying to put Lee down in any way but just pointing out the potential pitfalls in his business model as apposed to the franchiser route.
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
First they have to find the work. Not easy when you're employed full time. That even assumes they would be interested in chucking a £500 a week job whicj is more than lots of guyts on here earn - certainly in their first year or two.
One render clean a week is all it would take. 500 squid or more is a days work to some ::)roll
I thought Lee employed window cleaners? That's like saying one roofing job a week. It's a different job.
That is my point Lee don't do just window cleaning if you take a look at his site
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
Give it a rest smurf , some of us actually take note of the guys with bigger businesses and look up to them. why are you so bothered about lees employees taking work off him but yet you don't say anything to 'sunshine' . Obviously your not interested in growing your business like lee Pryor but yet you pick at everything he does , stop being a child
Sunshine happens to be a mate of mine that I respect.
Anyway I am not trying to put Lee down in any way but just pointing out the potential pitfalls in his business model as apposed to the franchiser route.
Your pointing out the pitfalls? Oh right I forgot you already employ a load of people so you know it all don't you . Lee obviously knows how to run a successful business, do you really think he needs you to point out the pitfalls? Your not advising on franchising either your just trying to put him down on what he's achieved/ achieving
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
First they have to find the work. Not easy when you're employed full time. That even assumes they would be interested in chucking a £500 a week job whicj is more than lots of guyts on here earn - certainly in their first year or two.
One render clean a week is all it would take. 500 squid or more is a days work to some ::)roll
I thought Lee employed window cleaners? That's like saying one roofing job a week. It's a different job.
Thart is my point Lee don't do just window cleaning if you take a look at his site
Couldn't one of Sunshine's franchisees do the same then? It's all a daft argument - most people like being employed and have no interest in self employment.
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
Give it a rest smurf , some of us actually take note of the guys with bigger businesses and look up to them. why are you so bothered about lees employees taking work off him but yet you don't say anything to 'sunshine' . Obviously your not interested in growing your business like lee Pryor but yet you pick at everything he does , stop being a child
Shrek learn to listen to the right people, its easy to come on here blow your own trumpet and talk bull, seriously a 10 year
old could come up with a better business plan than this guy.
Put it this way if I want genuine advice Its guys like Smurf who I will turn to.
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
First they have to find the work. Not easy when you're employed full time. That even assumes they would be interested in chucking a £500 a week job whicj is more than lots of guyts on here earn - certainly in their first year or two.
One render clean a week is all it would take. 500 squid or more is a days work to some ::)roll
I thought Lee employed window cleaners? That's like saying one roofing job a week. It's a different job.
Thart is my point Lee don't do just window cleaning if you take a look at his site
Couldn't one of Sunshine's franchisees do the same then? It's all a daft argument - most people like being employed and have no interest in self employment.
The difference is as a franchisee it's actually their own business. That is where the two business models differ. No buying vans or upkeep. No paying out wages, sick pay, holiday pay etc lol
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
Give it a rest smurf , some of us actually take note of the guys with bigger businesses and look up to them. why are you so bothered about lees employees taking work off him but yet you don't say anything to 'sunshine' . Obviously your not interested in growing your business like lee Pryor but yet you pick at everything he does , stop being a child
Shrek learn to listen to the right people, its easy to come on here blow your own trumpet and talk bull, seriously a 10 year
old could come up with a better business plan than this guy.
Put it this way if I want genuine advice Its guys like Smurf who I will turn to.
Yeah every time lee comes on here he gets shot down, I haven't seen mr Pryor create any threads mocking people who work Saturday's like 'sunshine' just because he doesn't have to. Yes you listen to smurf , maybe that's why your fed up of window cleaning ::)roll
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Shrek the funny thing is I'm not trying to mock Lee at all as some seem to think if you read through my posts properly.
After saying that though there are many on here that operate a multi van firm but you don't see them posting confidential financial information that is between them and their accountant now do you. That don't have to and is none of our business either.
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
First they have to find the work. Not easy when you're employed full time. That even assumes they would be interested in chucking a £500 a week job whicj is more than lots of guyts on here earn - certainly in their first year or two.
One render clean a week is all it would take. 500 squid or more is a days work to some ::)roll
I thought Lee employed window cleaners? That's like saying one roofing job a week. It's a different job.
Thart is my point Lee don't do just window cleaning if you take a look at his site
Couldn't one of Sunshine's franchisees do the same then? It's all a daft argument - most people like being employed and have no interest in self employment.
The difference is as a franchisee it's actually their own business. That is where the two business models differ. No buying vans or upkeep. No paying out wages, sick pay, holiday pay etc lol
Yes, but it would be easy to just do the work and not pay the royalty - easier as they have all their own equipment anyway.
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Funny thing is I'm not trying to mock Lee at all as some seem to think if you read through my posts properly.
I never said your mocking lee , I said your putting him down with everything you say , nothing supportive . Yes your not mates and you don't respect him like 'sunshine ' , we get that . The people on here that are successful stop posting because of people like you , a mr know it all who has an answer for everything and knows better than the people who are more successful than you.
I lost all respect for sunshine when he started that thread mocking people for working Saturday's, looking down on others because he's got other people working for him. Pathetic
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
Give it a rest smurf , some of us actually take note of the guys with bigger businesses and look up to them. why are you so bothered about lees employees taking work off him but yet you don't say anything to 'sunshine' . Obviously your not interested in growing your business like lee Pryor but yet you pick at everything he does , stop being a child
Shrek learn to listen to the right people, its easy to come on here blow your own trumpet and talk bull, seriously a 10 year
old could come up with a better business plan than this guy.
Put it this way if I want genuine advice Its guys like Smurf who I will turn to.
If you were asked to put together a business capable of supporting 9 vehicles full time what would you do differently to Lee then Sean?
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Funny thing is I'm not trying to mock Lee at all as some seem to think if you read through my posts properly.
I never said your mocking lee , I said your putting him down with everything you say , nothing supportive . Yes your not mates and you don't respect him like 'sunshine ' , we get that . The people on here that are successful stop posting because of people like you , a mr know it all who has an answer for everything and knows better than the people who are more successful than you.
I lost all respect for sunshine when he started that thread mocking people for working Saturday's, looking down on others because he's got other people working for him. Pathetic
I don't think Lee needs my support or anyone else on here for that matter do you as he is doing just fine on his own. As for the putting down bit that is also not my intention again if you bother to read my posts properly.
I think you will find sunshine was just jesting as some of use do like to have a laugh once in a while too.
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1000 a week round here is possible but it would take some years of refining to get there. In other areas I imagine it's a piece of p
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Funny thing is I'm not trying to mock Lee at all as some seem to think if you read through my posts properly.
I never said your mocking lee , I said your putting him down with everything you say , nothing supportive . Yes your not mates and you don't respect him like 'sunshine ' , we get that . The people on here that are successful stop posting because of people like you , a mr know it all who has an answer for everything and knows better than the people who are more successful than you.
I lost all respect for sunshine when he started that thread mocking people for working Saturday's, looking down on others because he's got other people working for him. Pathetic
I don't think Lee needs my support or anyone else on here for that matter do you as he is doing just fine on his own. As for the putting down bit that is also not my intention again if you bother to read my posts properly.
I think you will find sunshine was just jesting as some of use do like to have a laugh once in a while too.
Actually I think he was being genuine until I piped up.
Guys like dazmond / perfect windows / slack / Pryor / 8weekly and more get stick on here or have in the past about their business, but you know what they all have in common?? They're all doing great at what they do!!
And it's a real shame some don't post as much as they used to because it was good reading about their success .
If you surround yourself with successful people, you will in turn be successful
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1k week got a contact that I get 1k + a day wish all my work was like this tho
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1k week got a contact that I get 1k + a day wish all my work was like this tho
Yep it's nice to land well paid work but is also a bummer if you lose it too for whatever reason.
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Funny thing is I'm not trying to mock Lee at all as some seem to think if you read through my posts properly.
I never said your mocking lee , I said your putting him down with everything you say , nothing supportive . Yes your not mates and you don't respect him like 'sunshine ' , we get that . The people on here that are successful stop posting because of people like you , a mr know it all who has an answer for everything and knows better than the people who are more successful than you.
I lost all respect for sunshine when he started that thread mocking people for working Saturday's, looking down on others because he's got other people working for him. Pathetic
I don't think Lee needs my support or anyone else on here for that matter do you as he is doing just fine on his own. As for the putting down bit that is also not my intention again if you bother to read my posts properly.
I think you will find sunshine was just jesting as some of use do like to have a laugh once in a while too.
Actually I think he was being genuine until I piped up.
Guys like dazmond / perfect windows / slack / Pryor / 8weekly and more get stick on here or have in the past about their business, but you know what they all have in common?? They're all doing great at what they do!!
And it's a real shame some don't post as much as they used to because it was good reading about their success .
If you surround yourself with successful people, you will in turn be successful
I love these type of guys who believe everything they read ;D
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A grand a week on domestics is easy with the right houses and the right prices.
Do the math 20x£10 houses a day , 10x£20 houses a day 15x£15 5x£40 houses a day, all are easily done especially with a mixture of all. if your still in the £5/£7 house price range then hitting a grand a week will be much harder to achieve.
I think most guys aim for a grand a week wfp which id say is a fairly easy week! Fair play to the guys who hit more with multiple vans but the way i see it is in reality how much do you really need to earn to get by in life? I have everything i want which is my close family around me being well and healthy. The rest means nothing.
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
Give it a rest smurf , some of us actually take note of the guys with bigger businesses and look up to them. why are you so bothered about lees employees taking work off him but yet you don't say anything to 'sunshine' . Obviously your not interested in growing your business like lee Pryor but yet you pick at everything he does , stop being a child
Shrek learn to listen to the right people, its easy to come on here blow your own trumpet and talk bull, seriously a 10 year
old could come up with a better business plan than this guy.
Put it this way if I want genuine advice Its guys like Smurf who I will turn to.
If you were asked to put together a business capable of supporting 9 vehicles full time what would you do differently to Lee then Sean?
Well for a start I wouldn't get to four vans worth and then decide to sell my home just to be able to buy x amount of vans
at a discount price.
I could go on but I honestly don't think your really that concerned.
Shrek when one these blow holes actually start giving a decent explanation on what make them different from the rest then
maybe we might have something to listen and learn from.
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
Give it a rest smurf , some of us actually take note of the guys with bigger businesses and look up to them. why are you so bothered about lees employees taking work off him but yet you don't say anything to 'sunshine' . Obviously your not interested in growing your business like lee Pryor but yet you pick at everything he does , stop being a child
Shrek learn to listen to the right people, its easy to come on here blow your own trumpet and talk bull, seriously a 10 year
old could come up with a better business plan than this guy.
Put it this way if I want genuine advice Its guys like Smurf who I will turn to.
If you were asked to put together a business capable of supporting 9 vehicles full time what would you do differently to Lee then Sean?
Well for a start I wouldn't get to four vans worth and then decide to sell my home just to be able to buy x amount of vans
at a discount price.
I could go on but I honestly don't think your really that concerned.
Shrek when one these blow holes actually start giving a decent explanation on what make them different from the rest then
maybe we might have something to listen and learn from.
I agree. It would be great to here why and how instead of ooooooh check me out on 250k a year or ooooo i earn 60k a month. Who actualy are you trying to impress??
Impress us by saying how its done? Quick enough to talk money but what about the graft and time it takes??
You dont see soupy bragging at all about what he earns etc but has put up a photo of his fleet of trucks and vans with selling 1 of them which fair play to him as has nothing to prove.
Anyone can say this and say that!!!proof is worth a lot more than simple wishful words.
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Funny thing is I'm not trying to mock Lee at all as some seem to think if you read through my posts properly.
I never said your mocking lee , I said your putting him down with everything you say , nothing supportive . Yes your not mates and you don't respect him like 'sunshine ' , we get that . The people on here that are successful stop posting because of people like you , a mr know it all who has an answer for everything and knows better than the people who are more successful than you.
I lost all respect for sunshine when he started that thread mocking people for working Saturday's, looking down on others because he's got other people working for him. Pathetic
I don't think Lee needs my support or anyone else on here for that matter do you as he is doing just fine on his own. As for the putting down bit that is also not my intention again if you bother to read my posts properly.
I think you will find sunshine was just jesting as some of use do like to have a laugh once in a while too.
Actually I think he was being genuine until I piped up.
Guys like dazmond / perfect windows / slack / Pryor / 8weekly and more get stick on here or have in the past about their business, but you know what they all have in common?? They're all doing great at what they do!!
And it's a real shame some don't post as much as they used to because it was good reading about their success .
If you surround yourself with successful people, you will in turn be successful
Shrek did you ever hear the saying self praise is no recommendation ? there's not one of us who couldn't come on here and
play the bigshot Iv certainly been temped.
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying some of them aren't doing well but to be honest you would need to be bad not to if working
in their areas.
Take away well above average pricing and the rest of the things we all have to battle with including competition and they have
nothing business wise to offer.
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Funny thing is I'm not trying to mock Lee at all as some seem to think if you read through my posts properly.
I never said your mocking lee , I said your putting him down with everything you say , nothing supportive . Yes your not mates and you don't respect him like 'sunshine ' , we get that . The people on here that are successful stop posting because of people like you , a mr know it all who has an answer for everything and knows better than the people who are more successful than you.
I lost all respect for sunshine when he started that thread mocking people for working Saturday's, looking down on others because he's got other people working for him. Pathetic
Don't really want to drag this old subject up, but I really don't get how anyone should need to work weekends if they're properly organised and have a decent pricing structure in place. The odd catch up day maybe but not on a regular basis, unless it's something you enjoy doing.
I think the franchise model is more likely to have operatives go rogue, as they are the type of person who wants to run their own business and have the mental capacity to do so. Lots of employees simply do not want the hassle of running their own business and all the responsibilities that come with it.
Back on subject, 1k a week should be an absolute doddle, seeing as we're all earning £40+ an hour ::)roll
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And smurf was right, the original post was tongue in cheek.
There are some sensitive little souls on this forum bless 'em. :-*
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Lee not everyone is so money motivated as you obviously or wants to build a multivan cleaning business.
However I'm sure if any of your workers and are up for a chalange they could quite easly turnover net what you pay them themsleves working a lot less hours than you make them work.
Give it a rest smurf , some of us actually take note of the guys with bigger businesses and look up to them. why are you so bothered about lees employees taking work off him but yet you don't say anything to 'sunshine' . Obviously your not interested in growing your business like lee Pryor but yet you pick at everything he does , stop being a child
Shrek learn to listen to the right people, its easy to come on here blow your own trumpet and talk bull, seriously a 10 year
old could come up with a better business plan than this guy.
Put it this way if I want genuine advice Its guys like Smurf who I will turn to.
If you were asked to put together a business capable of supporting 9 vehicles full time what would you do differently to Lee then Sean?
Well for a start I wouldn't get to four vans worth and then decide to sell my home just to be able to buy x amount of vans
at a discount price.
I could go on but I honestly don't think your really that concerned.
Shrek when one these blow holes actually start giving a decent explanation on what make them different from the rest then
maybe we might have something to listen and learn from.
No, you're wrong, I am concerned. I would seriously like to hear what you would do differently in order to be able to run and manage a 9 vehicle setup, full time. I was hoping you'd offer something constructive, something without "I'll tell you what I wouldn't do.......". Alas, you couldn't help yourself.
So I'm disappointed, but not in the least surprised.
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Shrek when one these blow holes actually start giving a decent explanation on what make them different from the rest then
maybe we might have something to listen and learn from.
lol he says having just referred to one of the more successful window cleaners on here. Now I understand Lee isn't the most favourite fella on here but you can't knock his drive and ambition, which if you're looking for something different certainly would apply to you.
To me flogging your house and funding the purchase of a full fleet of vehicles is as different as it is likely to get. Correct me if I'm wrong Sean, but they do that regularly round Belfast do they?
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