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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Tosh on November 09, 2016, 07:01:14 pm
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Your van isn't there.. Did you really do it? ;D
Good work. Was it sprayed on hypo or the gel?
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how did you do it just spray on and and rinse with wfp? ive had a couple of customers with nice big houses ask if there is anything i can do about there render similar to your pic, i reckon sold rightly you can make some decent money out of them its not something ive really thought about in the past but it breaks from the normal day to day window cleaning.
The results look really good
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I used 15% diluted down to about 5% which didn’t seem to do the trick so just used 15% sprayed on.
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I used 15% diluted down to about 5% which didn’t seem to do the trick so just used 15% sprayed on.
That's bonkers :o
...YEHAA! RIDE EM COWBOY ;D
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15 % mixed 50 50 with water is idel for render but neat on paving slabs ;D
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That's still overkill for render king :o
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Smurf if I'd applied it at 5% scrubbed it and walked away would it have come clean if I returned an hour later?
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If you want my honest opinion there was no need to use hypo on that at all when there are safer and better alternatives you could have used.
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Smurf if I'd applied it at 5% scrubbed it and walked away would it have come clean if I returned an hour later?
You may have seen this vid before but shows the basic steps of cleaning render using low strength SH based sofwash mix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htl6ZNKtjoA
Mind at that height proccess 1 would be best to use a wfp brush to apply instead of a spray nozzle to help reduce spray drift.
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Are the goggles to keep his hood on?
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I wouldnt want an eye full of bleach n soap either.
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Smurf if I'd applied it at 5% scrubbed it and walked away would it have come clean if I returned an hour later?
You may have seen this vid before but shows the basic steps of cleaning render using low strength SH based sofwash mix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htl6ZNKtjoA
Mind at that height proccess 1 would be best to use a wfp brush to apply instead of a spray nozzle to help reduce spray drift.
What about the grass. Won't this stuff kill that Smurf?
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Smurf if I'd applied it at 5% scrubbed it and walked away would it have come clean if I returned an hour later?
You may have seen this vid before but shows the basic steps of cleaning render using low strength SH based sofwash mix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htl6ZNKtjoA
Mind at that height proccess 1 would be best to use a wfp brush to apply instead of a spray nozzle to help reduce spray drift.
What about the grass. Won't this stuff kill that Smurf?
This vid maybe of interest if you have not seen it before which is relevant not just for roof cleaning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTB5dlDr_4c
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Looks like a good job done to me.
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Lal I'm not disputing the fact it looks better than it did before. What worries me the most is that anyone can buy SH but most don't seem to have a clue how to use it safely. Used neat or at higher diluted strengths it's also very corrosive so can damage the property you are working on ::)roll
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Lal I'm not disputing the fact it looks better than it did before. What worries me the most is that anyone can buy SH but most don't seem to have a clue how to use it safely. Used neat or at higher diluted strengths it's also very corrosive so can damage the property you are working on ::)roll
Sorry, is this the same guy that had to go to hospital for using SH without gloves ::)roll
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Lal I'm not disputing the fact it looks better than it did before. What worries me the most is that anyone can buy SH but most don't seem to have a clue how to use it safely. Used neat or at higher diluted strengths it's also very corrosive so can damage the property you are working on ::)roll
Hi Smurf, my comment was not personally directed at you, i had just looked at the before & after photos and made my
comment, but i totally accept what your saying about these very strong chemicals being dangerous if used without proper
knowledge & training, it goes without saying.
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Smurf if I'd applied it at 5% scrubbed it and walked away would it have come clean if I returned an hour later?
You may have seen this vid before but shows the basic steps of cleaning render using low strength SH based sofwash mix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htl6ZNKtjoA
Mind at that height proccess 1 would be best to use a wfp brush to apply instead of a spray nozzle to help reduce spray drift.
What about the grass. Won't this stuff kill that Smurf?
its ok payment will have cleared by then ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Lal I'm not disputing the fact it looks better than it did before. What worries me the most is that anyone can buy SH but most don't seem to have a clue how to use it safely. Used neat or at higher diluted strengths it's also very corrosive so can damage the property you are working on ::)roll
Sorry, is this the same guy that had to go to hospital for using SH without gloves ::)roll
Yes it is funny enough ;D ;D
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no big issue with using hypo at 15% if u know what ur doing - just don't pea in a bucket of it though ;)
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Smurf if I'd applied it at 5% scrubbed it and walked away would it have come clean if I returned an hour later?
You may have seen this vid before but shows the basic steps of cleaning render using low strength SH based sofwash mix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htl6ZNKtjoA
Mind at that height proccess 1 would be best to use a wfp brush to apply instead of a spray nozzle to help reduce spray drift.
What about the grass. Won't this stuff kill that Smurf?
its ok payment will have cleared by then ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You can soon tell if someone has used hypo in pics they post doing hard surfaces like pavers as the edge of the grass (if they don't know what they are doing) in most cases has turned white ;D
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I bet that gets the local horticultural society members talking.
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Just tell em it will grow back and take the money and run ;D
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Talking about growing back I passed a large block of appartments today that the render was cleaned about 6 months ago by a chap using a wfp. I take it it was cleaned with a SH softwash mix as is starting to go green already.
Just goes to show they must have spent out a few grand to get that building render cleaned only to find 6 months down the road it looks just as bad as it did before. ::)roll
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Whats the best biocide to put on as final coat?
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There are a few brands to choose from as everyone seems to be getting on the bandwagon now but for longevity DIDECYLDIMETHYLAMMONIUM CHLORIDE
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I see your predictive text function is well and truly working.
You meant to say disinfectant didn’t you ;)
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Talking about growing back I passed a large block of appartments today that the render was cleaned about 6 months ago by a chap using a wfp. I take it it was cleaned with a SH softwash mix as is starting to go green already.
Just goes to show they must have spent out a few grand to get that building render cleaned only to find 6 months down the road it looks just as bad as it did before. ::)roll
Not sure if i'm reading this thread correct. You say he'd of been better off using a SH wash, then you're worried people will not use it correctly, you've been burnt by it, then its gone green quick and you think its with one of them SH softwash mixes ?
Just use hypo then, like he did ?!! ;D
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Talking about growing back I passed a large block of appartments today that the render was cleaned about 6 months ago by a chap using a wfp. I take it it was cleaned with a SH softwash mix as is starting to go green already.
Just goes to show they must have spent out a few grand to get that building render cleaned only to find 6 months down the road it looks just as bad as it did before. ::)roll
Not sure if i'm reading this thread correct. You say he'd of been better off using a SH wash, then you're worried people will not use it correctly, you've been burnt by it, then its gone green quick and you think its with one of them SH softwash mixes ?
Just use hypo then, like he did ?!! ;D
Perhaps more to the point the sellers are just trying to brain wash us all to buy both so they sell more as we are told should use a SH based softwash mix first. Then treat the clean surface with a quats biocide afterwards so it stays cleaner for longer ;D ;D
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Lal I'm not disputing the fact it looks better than it did before. What worries me the most is that anyone can buy SH but most don't seem to have a clue how to use it safely. Used neat or at higher diluted strengths it's also very corrosive so can damage the property you are working on ::)roll
As long as he was wearing a hard hat. ;D
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Fook the hard hat ;D
There is a pic on one of the bookfarce pages of a chap in a hospital bed after getting hypo in his eye.
I was hospitalised for 3 nights treated for minor burns to my right hand which got infected for not wearing gloves.
Also a guy posted a pic of nasty looking hypo burn to his wrist on another forum .
I'm sure there are many more instances of people getting hurt using hypo and even quats that we don't hear about too.
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Fook the hard hat ;D
There is a pic on one of the bookfarce pages of a chap in a hospital bed after getting hypo in his eye.
I was hospitalised for 3 nights treated for minor burns to my right hand which got infected for not wearing gloves.
Also a guy posted a pic of nasty looking hypo burn to his wrist on another forum .
I'm sure there are many more instances of people getting hurt using hypo and even quats that we don't hear about too.
Are you to Sotwashing what Solar Steve is to solar panels? Softy Smurfy?
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Why do you want a T-shirt ? ;D
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Why do you want a T-shirt ? ;D
Not for £99.
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Fook the hard hat ;D
There is a pic on one of the bookfarce pages of a chap in a hospital bed after getting hypo in his eye.
I was hospitalised for 3 nights treated for minor burns to my right hand which got infected for not wearing gloves.
Also a guy posted a pic of nasty looking hypo burn to his wrist on another forum .
I'm sure there are many more instances of people getting hurt using hypo and even quats that we don't hear about too.
Are you to Sotwashing what Solar Steve is to solar panels? Softy Smurfy?
Smurf uses Hypo for colonic irrigation purposes. 💩
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Just as a matter of interest has anyone been or going on a softwash course?
Reason why I ask is that training courses are now being advertised on bookfarce.
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Just as a matter of interest has anyone been or going on a softwash course?
Reason why I ask is that training courses are now being advertised on bookfarce.
I know Cliff Perkins from here went on one. I believe day 2 was very late starting. ;D
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For anyone interested this looks like a good course to go on http://softwashsolutions.ie/softwash-applicator-training.php
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I've used this a few times and had good results. It's a lot cheaper too.
http://www.restormate.co.uk/epages/15094.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/15094/Products/JC-ALGEX
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I've used this a few times and had good results. It's a lot cheaper too.
http://www.restormate.co.uk/epages/15094.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/15094/Products/JC-ALGEX
Thanks for the link Elfy. I might give Restore Algex a go to see what it's like compared to the more expensive and so say more effective DDAC 40% and 50% quats products that I already use. Can I ask what have you used it on so far?
For anyone that doesn't know Benz Biocidal Wash (DDAC50%) is actually this stuff been rebranded. That is why they don't sell DDAC50 anymore http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=197014.40
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I wish I had some pics to show you, Smurf, but the times I've used it it's been on house walls and paving that have been green. I don't know how effective it will be on the black and red staining that you sometimes see. The main attraction for this chemical is that it's a lot safer to use - no dead grass from runoff and no dead shrubs and plants. I've used it arround my own home for about 18 months and it does help to keep things clean. I would see it more as a maintenance cleaner than a deep cleaner.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks Elfy...
As for safer to use it's alot better than slapping 15% neat hypo down that's for sure which will defo get rid of the dreaded black spot in no time. ;D
I did a test using neat 15% hypo (SH) on pavers about 4 months ago (applied by a brush not sprayed may I add) that had never been cleaned for years. Came up a treat and got rid of all the hard to remove black spot etc. Now it still looks cleanish but has green algae on it again which to be honest surprised me it went green so quick. Mind those chepo raven concrete slabs I tried it on due to the surface do tend to trap water and dirt so I suppose it's a natural buffet for the airborne algae and lichen spours to get quickly established again.
As for longevity treating surfaces with SH, Quats or both I've started to monitor which works best.
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Smurf, I'll let you come and clean my patio for free as a test area, using different solutions if you like. ;D
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Is any of those products good for cleaning decking
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On wood I've found SH can cause more harm than good if applied to strong as it will damage the fibers of the wood and will bleach it too. If you have read up on the uses of SH it's one of the chems used in the paper maufacturing procces to break down wood into pulp. Therefore even though it will get rid of green algae in my opinion it is not an ideal chem to be used on wood.
Quats however is used as a wood perservative by manufactures which is either dipped or injected into the wood. Therefore treating decking etc with quats will not only kill algae spore etc but also as an added benifit help preserve the wood too.
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Smurf, I'll let you come and clean my patio for free as a test area, using different solutions if you like. ;D
I can pop over sometime and see if I can turn yer artifical grass white if you like... 15% hypo should do the trick methinks ;D
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I love that lawn, think I'll pass 😂😂😂
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I love that lawn, think I'll pass 😂😂😂
I thought you might ;D ;D
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Quite funny that jet washers charge to go clean a floor surface with a jet wash, when in fact (in some circumstances)they know full well a few buckets of hypo will clean it just as good. But they still proceed.
Years ago, shopkeeprs and housewives did this outside their own front doors. Bucket of hot bleach....... Now we're debating hot/soft wash.........etc LOL !!!!
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Quite funny that jet washers charge to go clean a floor surface with a jet wash, when in fact (in some circumstances)they know full well a few buckets of hypo will clean it just as good. But they still proceed.
Years ago, shopkeeprs and housewives did this outside their own front doors. Bucket of hot bleach....... Now we're debating hot/soft wash.........etc LOL !!!!
Regards pricing for floor surfaces would you charge less if you could get away with just using hypo and not use a washer?
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Quite funny that jet washers charge to go clean a floor surface with a jet wash, when in fact (in some circumstances)they know full well a few buckets of hypo will clean it just as good. But they still proceed.
Years ago, shopkeeprs and housewives did this outside their own front doors. Bucket of hot bleach....... Now we're debating hot/soft wash.........etc LOL !!!!
Regards pricing for floor surfaces would you charge less if you can get away with just using hypo and not use a washer?
Point i'm making Smurf is that a swill with hypo will clean a lot of surfaces that people are "jet washing" and they know it doesn't really need jet washing. But they price for a jet wash anyway. You price for what you like, and everyone in the general cleaning forum will tell you to get a Honda engine, and a minimum xxx LPM pump etc..... we all know in a lot of cases a hosepipe and a swill of hypo will produce the same results.
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Quite funny that jet washers charge to go clean a floor surface with a jet wash, when in fact (in some circumstances)they know full well a few buckets of hypo will clean it just as good. But they still proceed.
Years ago, shopkeeprs and housewives did this outside their own front doors. Bucket of hot bleach....... Now we're debating hot/soft wash.........etc LOL !!!!
Regards pricing for floor surfaces would you charge less if you can get away with just using hypo and not use a washer?
Point i'm making Smurf is that a swill with hypo will clean a lot of surfaces that people are "jet washing" and they know it doesn't really need jet washing. But they price for a jet wash anyway. You price for what you like, and everyone in the general cleaning forum will tell you to get a Honda engine, and a minimum xxx LPM pump etc..... we all know in a lot of cases a hosepipe and a swill of hypo will produce the same results.
Now that's another trade secret shared to the world...Nice one. ;D
But still you should know some ground hard surfaces still need pressure washing aswell to get better cleaning results. Hence why I'm thinking the op posted blackwash was poop as he thought it was going to be easy.
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It was easy, I’d tested another section of soiled render on the previous window clean visit.
Spray the solution on, scrub to make it look like they’re getting their money’s worth, walk away, clean the windows. Job done.
Any difficulties were because of the height.
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It was easy, I’d tested another section of soiled render on the previous window clean visit.
Spray the solution on, scrub to make it look like they’re getting their money’s worth, walk away, clean the windows. Job done.
Any difficulties were because of the height.
Opened a can of worms, couldn't get them back in.....not you but others........ ;D
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It was easy, I’d tested another section of soiled render on the previous window clean visit.
Spray the solution on, scrub to make it look like they’re getting their money’s worth, walk away, clean the windows. Job done.
Any difficulties were because of the height.
Sorry I did not mean you but the other chap that thought blackwash was poop in another post as I got confuesd which one I was on. lol http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=205216.0
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;)
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Do the environment agency have an opinion on splashing hypochlorite around?
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Is any of those products good for cleaning decking
Yes. Algex works well on decking. The only drawback is that it takes quite a bit of time to work and the decking is very slippery.
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Personally I would normally jet wash a slippery deck down first to get rid of the surface slim & dirt. Then afterwards if need be you have the choice to either treat it with a weak sh mix, let dwell for a short time and rinse off. Or better option for the wood is to treat the deck with quats instead of using hypo.
Obviously this is not a full deck restore but just a maintenace clean