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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: kevin sparrow on November 08, 2016, 01:55:52 pm
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Has anyone tried this yet, I've heard its now available in the U.K.?
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No, and yes it is!! Be interesting to hear some reviews. Think it would have to be bloody good for me to change from my few current presprays if im honest........... maybe a sample could sway me!!! ;D
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Seen a demo on YouTube looks amazing, spray it on no agitation required.
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guess what ... the ingredients are a secret ! ... why ? ... because if they told you whats in it you might find out thats it similar to a dozen other cleaning products .
They do give away that the main ingredient is washing soda ... like most other powders ... the others indredients ... could be any of a couple of dozen of the usual detergent ingredients .
He has a demo of a stairs on one of the sites ... but he boosted it with citrus boost and peroxide , if it was magic he wouldnt have to boost it .
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guess what ... the ingredients are a secret ! ... why ? ... because if they told you whats in it you might find out thats it similar to a dozen other cleaning products .
They do give away that the main ingredient is washing soda ... like most other powders ... the others indredients ... could be any of a couple of dozen of the usual detergent ingredients .
He has a demo of a stairs on one of the sites ... but he boosted it with citrus boost and peroxide , if it was magic he wouldnt have to boost it .
Totally agree..... Everything that we need is already out there anything new is just a rehash of what's available already. The reason its a secret is just like John says
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To be honest I'm more concerned about a product that works I'm no chemist .
As with any other product sometimes they need a boost.
Its the no agitation that really interests me as its a lot quicker process.
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Hi Guys
Detergents wet out the carpet and soil allowing it to be extracted.
A good dwell time is generally just as effective and sometimes more as agitation.
As for secret ingredients, magic etc the driving force for our industry is the washing powder and detergent manufacturers not a carpet cleaning supplier/distributor, so I would take all those types of claims with a large pinch of sat!.
Cheers
Doug
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To be honest I'm more concerned about a product that works I'm no chemist .
As with any other product sometimes they need a boost.
Its the no agitation that really interests me as its a lot quicker process.
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No agitation required by most cleaning chemicals provided you leave a good dwell time.
The water will agitate as the spray hits the carpet.
Cheers
Doug
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I'm going to try it out and see if it's any good
Its taking of in the States quite a few of the big distributors over there seem to stock it according to the internet
Just can't see who stocks it over here
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lol, Daniel Brown sells it! I see the post being modd'd soon for the unpaid advertisement! ;D
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I'm going to try it out and see if it's any good
Its taking of in the States quite a few of the big distributors over there seem to stock it according to the internet
Just can't see who stocks it over here
You got a memory lapse Kevin. You were discussing this on Facebook just the other day.
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Yes bit of Alzheimer's
How ever from the Carpet Cleaner who tried it today for the first time and I quote
"The best product I've used in 24years and I've tried just about everything "
Not bad for a bit of baking Soda and another product that we don't need
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You can always tell when people are talking crap about a new product, the first time they use it and.....' it's the best product in 24yrs' .........nothing like trying something for a few weeks on multiple jobs then giving a honest appraisal, they give their opinion on trying it for just one day ::)roll ::)roll
I've yet to find a product that become the best I've ever used after trying it on just one job, it's a ridiculous statement and utter BS
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Oh Dear
;D
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97% of carpeting in the US is allegedly Nylon or Polypropylene....
I have seen shampoos demonstrated here in the UK on markets using Polypropylene carpet...check out the TV shop channels too...it looks great...why do we bother
You all know the answer to that one....
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??? ::)roll ???
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don't knock it till you have tried it
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don't knock it till you have tried it
Exactly,
But certain people say its bullpoop without a trial!!
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If it was crap why are some many Americans raving about it , also in regard to carpet type it's designed for a job , would you use powerburst on a fine carpet ? I love the fear it seems to generate in thE industry must be poop oh no another fad I'm happy to go up against any products of your choosing in a head to head test
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I'd say more apathy than fear , its not that its poop or wont work , its just that these products are mostly using the same ingredients , and just vary according to the intending use .
There will be a UK version or a chemspec version of this product .
With shipping from the states etc u are ending up paying a fortune for a bit of washing soda and surfactant .
Ultimate master , f90 , other powders will do the same thing with similar ingredients for half the cost .
U want to try an orange sauce? Pick up some Evans rubican from local janatorial store , for the nasty stuff it be as good as anything for as little as £6 for 5liters.
I can give u a full list of the ingredients too ...nothing to hide there.
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I stated facts about a product and what it contains !!!!!
Your man above is promoting a product what's the difference none
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To be fair John mentions products like we all do - evryone discusses what they use and it helps everyone. Dan - you are blatantly trying to push a product as you have started selling it in the UK which is different - the rest of us don't sell the products we mention.
All the other advertisers on here have to pay so why wouldn't you?
I see you have done the same sneaky selling tactic on Cleantalk and got shut down there too!
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don't knock it till you have tried it
Exactly,
But certain people say its bullpoop without a trial!!
I've just read through this topic and no one has said anything bad about the actual product, all that's been mentioned is the secrecy of the ingredients and the doubious selling techniques, and to say you can't comment on a product until you've tried it is a bit daft and it basically says that we don't have a analytical brain that can take known information and past experiences and apply it to different scenarios or ideas
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I have never tried Saiger's Sauce so I cant comment yet if it works well or not, This topic did make me think of food though. Take baked beans as an example. There are many different brands of baked beans and they all contain the same basic ingredients, beans, tomatoes, water, salt, sugar etc... The thing is even though they contain the same ingredients and look the same they taste differently. What makes one brand of baked beans taste different from another then? Different quantities of the ingredients, different qualities of those ingredients, how the product has been prepared and how they are prepared when eaten. Perhaps carpet cleaning chemicals albeit very similar to each other are actually quite different.
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Northerners will probably put it on their chips......... ;D
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gravy actually.....
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Everyone who has used this is raving about .
Some well established and respected CC's have had an opportunity to try it and everyone so far loves it!!
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so Kevin, if you know all about it and spoke to so many users of it, why would you feel the need to ask on here? Just buy it! Unless you have a vested interest in it also?
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I'm going to try it. It can't hurt trying.
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so the Saiger guy is a smalltime carpet cleaner and regular on mikeys board , he decides he wants to get into the supply side of things and invests a few grand in getting his own brand powder . Of course his friends on MB are going to support him , and then u get a bit of board hysteria the likes u see on CT with smp or whatever ....
So if you consider the likes of chemspec can invests millions in product development where as small time saiger has a coupe of Gs to spend , which of the two are likely to have a complex chemical product .... and which one is likely to have some washing soda with blue dye in it . :D
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Every business started somewhere. I'm sure chemspec didnt start off the size it is now with the range of products it has now. Give it a go and if it's rubbish then it wont last............... But it might actually be good.
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so Kevin, if you know all about it and spoke to so many users of it, why would you feel the need to ask on here? Just buy it! Unless you have a vested interest in it also?
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so Kevin, if you know all about it and spoke to so many users of it, why would you feel the need to ask on here? Just buy it! Unless you have a vested interest in it also?
I have it, I've tried it and it's a spectacular product!
Try it yourself
I am confident you will be impressed, if you'd like me to send you a small sample no problem
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so the Saiger guy is a smalltime carpet cleaner and regular on mikeys board , he decides he wants to get into the supply side of things and invests a few grand in getting his own brand powder . Of course his friends on MB are going to support him , and then u get a bit of board hysteria the likes u see on CT with smp or whatever ....
So if you consider the likes of chemspec can invests millions in product development where as small time saiger has a coupe of Gs to spend , which of the two are likely to have a complex chemical product .... and which one is likely to have some washing soda with blue dye in it . :D
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so the Saiger guy is a smalltime carpet cleaner and regular on mikeys board , he decides he wants to get into the supply side of things and invests a few grand in getting his own brand powder . Of course his friends on MB are going to support him , and then u get a bit of board hysteria the likes u see on CT with smp or whatever ....
So if you consider the likes of chemspec can invests millions in product development where as small time saiger has a coupe of Gs to spend , which of the two are likely to have a complex chemical product .... and which one is likely to have some washing soda with blue dye in it . :D
I think you will find that this product is a little bit more than washing soda and blue dye, but I will pardon you for being Naive,and also it's not Persil Colour or Bold on steroids!
I would suspect however that the diehard manufacturer's are concerned over the performance of Saiger's Sauce compared to their product.
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so the Saiger guy is a smalltime carpet cleaner and regular on mikeys board , he decides he wants to get into the supply side of things and invests a few grand in getting his own brand powder . Of course his friends on MB are going to support him , and then u get a bit of board hysteria the likes u see on CT with smp or whatever ....
So if you consider the likes of chemspec can invests millions in product development where as small time saiger has a coupe of Gs to spend , which of the two are likely to have a complex chemical product .... and which one is likely to have some washing soda with blue dye in it . :D
I think you will find that this product is a little bit more than washing soda and blue dye, but I will pardon you for being Naive,and also it's not Persil Colour or Bold on steroids!
I would suspect however that the diehard manufacturer's are concerned over the performance of Saiger's Sauce compared to their product.
how would you know whats in it , its a secret :D of course theres likely to be one or two ingredients other than the sodium carbonate , most of the powders have typically three or four ingredients , so what else .... a surfactant ?a ph regulator ?
anyway what ever else is in it can for sure be found in Uk suppliers products so no need to pay what ? about £80 per 10kg by the time it comes from the states and you guys get you cut out of it ... alltec or others would be about half that for similar product .
All the russ chadd video shows is that it works ! big deal . all these similar products work , But If people want to pay over the odds for these basic products its up to them .
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I did say before new to the industry suspension agents also I would love to see it against any companies best product that's a fair test then using a 135 old machine to prove its not the machinery doing it can't say fairer than that
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I did say before new to the industry suspension agents also I would love to see it against any companies best product that's a fair test then using a 135 old machine to prove its not the machinery doing it can't say fairer than that
vague waffle , that could mean several things . ::)roll
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the guys that manufacture it , list their generic products here , bet its the same as ' fury ' , data sheet is same and hey its blue !
just stick a saigers label on insted . Thats about all there is to this .
http://www.hcronline.com/carpet.html
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amazing how many carpet cleaners post youtube videos with such bad wand techniques!!
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https://www.saigers.com/images/pdfs/Saigers-Sauce-1-SDS.pdf
lots of soda crystals?
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amazing how many carpet cleaners post youtube videos with such bad wand techniques!!
Stick your neck out and show us a video of you demonstrating the perfect wand technique.
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lol, why do you need to know how Robin? ;D
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Do you think I need to know?
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don't know, never seen one of your videos!
my point is not to offend, its to just point out if you upload videos, especially ones supposedly to show how professional you are and so can give advice to other cleaners on cleaning solutions/powders, then you should at least get the basics right.
i know when i first set up i was offered so much 'professional' advice to find out down the line that there actually so much BS sold to new starters both in products and advice and its a shame. So much stuff rebranded and sold to us at a premium sometimes its like daylight robbery. When you look into products like cleaning solutions etc, like John Martin indeed has, you then realise that a lot of what's spoon fed us is tripe.
best advice i ever had was from an old boy who lived in Solihull. I was buying some kit off him. He had retired but had been in the game donkeys years - from portables, to high end TM's and then back to portables. He had a beautiful home, was very knowledgeable but cut no BS. Everything he told me has turned out to be correct. He knew a lot of the old boys who have so much respect on some forums as well and had quite a few stories to tell!
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ere...... Cleaner carpets, come ere and Oill give ye some crackin advice to stay ahead in this game....
Price low...... market high..... splash and dash..... bait and switch.....
oill say no more...... :o
know what I mean... 8)
yee'll never here owt so good agin....
owt else is BS.... ;)
a nod is as good as a wink to a blind bat!!!! ;)
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You been on the sauce...... ;D
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I take it all back, Hector has now given the best advice i have ever heard, pure words of wisdom ;D
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where is it for sale in uk ??
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I take it all back, Hector has now given the best advice i have ever heard, pure words of wisdom ;D
ye know it makes sense.....
lubberly jubberly.... ;D
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I did say before new to the industry suspension agents also I would love to see it against any companies best product that's a fair test then using a 135 old machine to prove its not the machinery doing it can't say fairer than that
vague waffle , that could mean several things . ::)roll
Anyone has a contact number for Daniel brown ?
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Think Dan,s company has gone bust now. But his dad Kevin Sparrow may be able to get you some.
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This whole fiasco just shows you should try and buy with your credit card not bank transfer or debit card.
At least the you might get your money back from the credit card company
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its guy called dan sell it i was going buy some last week to try its dear than most pre sprays
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Has anyone actually tried this.....seen it on youtube and looks pretty good !