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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Paul Clapham on November 07, 2016, 03:28:27 pm

Title: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: Paul Clapham on November 07, 2016, 03:28:27 pm
Has anybody van mounted their Enforcer ? If so can I see some pics as to how you have done it ?

cheers

Paul.

Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: mr muzzy on November 07, 2016, 05:51:17 pm
i would like to see that to paul
having the machine in the van most of the time .would take a lot of the
strain out of the job
the enforcer has a built in heater to
I think filling might be a problem ,pending on the size of your van
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: JandS on November 08, 2016, 08:41:16 am
Why van mount it and lose vac power....time you've messed about with extension leads it could be off and set up.
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: Robin Ray on November 08, 2016, 09:04:45 am
I use an Airflex Pro custom as a van mount, It started off as a series machine and I have modified it to run in parallel with two 1650w Electro motors so it is really more like a Storm now. In its original series form I would say It would not work well as a van mount  however now it works amazingly well and even with faffing about with cords it saves a massive amount of time and runs out to 100ft regularly with no problems at all.

There is no reason an Enforcer set up in parallel should not do exactly the same thing with excellent results, My Airflex is easy to van mount as it will suck directly from a tank. The enforcer will likely need an extra pump to feed the enforcer tank from the van mounted tank.

Mounting the machine in the van has been one of  the biggest time saving exercises I have done so far. I have no doubt a real truckmount will provide even better time savings but for the tiny investment of mounting a suitable porty in a van, its hard to beat. I'm so impressed by the power an electric machine can provide my next purchase will be a Mytee escape.
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: davep on November 08, 2016, 05:36:38 pm
I've had my enforcer van mounted for over 2 years no problem.  It has a 400 litre tank next to it with one of these inside (  http://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-ttb583pmp-750w-dirty-water-pump-220-240v/55753 ) that feeds the auto fill on the Enforcer.

Also use the auto dump.

It just saves so much time and most of my jobs use 50ft.   

Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: Paul H Coulthard on November 08, 2016, 07:16:22 pm
Do you have a photo of the setup dave     
I've had my enforcer van mounted for over 2 years no problem.  It has a 400 litre tank next to it with one of these inside (  http://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-ttb583pmp-750w-dirty-water-pump-220-240v/55753 ) that feeds the auto fill on the Enforcer.

Also use the auto dump.

It just saves so much time and most of my jobs use 50ft.
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 08, 2016, 09:21:42 pm
How do you go on with the heat?
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: edward coller on November 08, 2016, 09:54:56 pm
So you guys that mount portables, i suppose you have ramps to cover hoses into house and you run the electrics in the same way, no worries about rain on leads....???? Do you run from tanks cold water, does it take a time to get to heat??Simon a truckmount user.
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: Robin Ray on November 08, 2016, 10:59:49 pm
Its not a contest of who has more heat... vacuum... pressure ... etc its just another way of doing it.

Yes TM's are better!

Truck mounted porties are actually quite good now though.

ps, Heat can be supplied via a electrically preheated van mounted tank boosted with an inline heater providing up to 110 C of heat depending on what is needed.
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: JandS on November 09, 2016, 09:26:51 am
On some of the jobs I do you would lose 25 foot just getting to the door.
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: JandS on November 09, 2016, 09:28:34 am
Much better way would be to take porty off but have it on auto fill from the tank and auto dump.
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: Robin Ray on November 09, 2016, 01:30:05 pm
On some of the jobs I do I lose 25ft getting  to the door. I still think its better "personally" Horses for courses I suppose.

95% of property only requires 50ft from the door so even if you use 25ft getting to the door that's only 75ft of hose so no real problem.
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 09, 2016, 04:52:54 pm
Nobody said it was a competition it was a valid question as the enforcer can have a v2.
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: Robin Ray on November 09, 2016, 06:05:44 pm
Nobody said it was a competition it was a valid question as the enforcer can have a v2.

Perhaps I took it the wrong way. I'm just used to the TM vs Porty debate.
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 09, 2016, 06:30:39 pm
People can be over sensitive (both sides) don't rise to it,  back to topic as an idea you could get a booster to run in line like the cub.
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: john martin on November 09, 2016, 10:00:01 pm
People can be over sensitive (both sides) don't rise to it,  back to topic as an idea you could get a booster to run in line like the cub.
Most of the enforcers are in series , so if you put a single vac booster inline ...    the lift would drop to that of the booster , so you would loose the benefit of the second series vac in the enforcer .
would work fine on a parallel machine .
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: Ian Harper on November 10, 2016, 09:21:45 am
just remember that it just like a car with power to weight. but is distance from machine in our case. Reason TMs have all that power and heat is to get hot water to the wand at really long distances and the recover it.
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: Robin Ray on November 10, 2016, 02:23:48 pm
If anyone is thinking of trying it out the easiest thing to do is test it out. Just add more hose to your porty and give it a go. That's what I did and I found I was happy working out to 100ft with no adverse effects. All it takes is some extra hose which if bought can always be used somewhere down the line. Or borrow some from another carpet cleaner.
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 11, 2016, 08:01:50 pm
Why not do a YouTube video?
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: Robin Ray on November 11, 2016, 11:05:54 pm
I did these some time back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDozVYnyl8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDozVYnyl8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quXmLHqwYlY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quXmLHqwYlY)

Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: carpet2clean.co.uk on November 12, 2016, 09:03:09 am
How much water do you normally carry in that tank? 400 lts? How long takes to preheat that amount of water, as from my fast calculating it takes around 6 hours to heat from 0 to 50 . Am I right? Do you preheat water at customer premises as well when preparing to job, vacuuming prespraying, agitating???
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: mr muzzy on November 12, 2016, 09:27:35 am
I did these some time back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDozVYnyl8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDozVYnyl8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quXmLHqwYlY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quXmLHqwYlY)
sounds like there is plenty suction at the  wand robin
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: Paul Clapham on November 12, 2016, 10:46:34 am
Thanks for all the tips  and advice chaps,

The main reason I asked the question is that if I do 2 jobs per day I am loading and unloading the Enforcer 6 times a day ( I store the machine away from the van in the evening ) so that's 30 time a week , and I am getting older and the machine seems to get heaver each month ! I was just looking at working a different way with the machine with out to much more investment .

Cheers

Paul.
Title: Re: Van mounted Enforcer
Post by: edward coller on November 12, 2016, 05:08:55 pm
Hey guts thanks for answers,. I have been porty, I am at present truckie, and am thinking I might need to invest in new kit in the not too distant future and have been thinking of cost /ease/customer benefit/ profitabil;ity/ and my  ease of work in the future, so all answers are useful. Thanks Simon