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Title: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 04, 2016, 09:29:21 pm
Best watch this vid bud so you can see how to fit a microlite standoff to a ladder properly.   ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JSxy43fnPA
 
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: the king on November 04, 2016, 10:49:04 pm
lol u mean me ??
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 04, 2016, 10:53:48 pm
Yes  ;)
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: the king on November 04, 2016, 10:56:41 pm
whats up with my microlite set up u must have sin it on uk fb ;D
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Space monkey on November 04, 2016, 10:57:46 pm
How much is he going to earn an hour ?
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: the king on November 04, 2016, 10:58:33 pm
lmfao
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 04, 2016, 11:00:10 pm
Spot the mistake  ;)

Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: the king on November 04, 2016, 11:04:54 pm
not shore the angle was rite the standoff dident slip
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 04, 2016, 11:17:16 pm
Here are the instructions that may help http://www.ladderstore.com/media/uploads/microlite.pdf
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: the king on November 05, 2016, 09:24:54 am
so the hooks go on the top then   ;D are u nathan moor? lmfao
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 05, 2016, 11:21:19 am
so the hooks go on the top then   ;D are u nathan moor? lmfao

Correct and No I'm not. I could not post a reply to your post with that pic on it as was banned from that forum. lol
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: the king on November 05, 2016, 05:24:16 pm
o i thault u got it off fb i for got i posted it on the other forum  ::)roll  yes i use it eather way normaly depending  on the angle as some times the other way it pulls on the springs and it has come off befor wich is not good!
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: tlwcs on November 05, 2016, 05:33:24 pm
What did you do to get a ban Smurf?
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: the king on November 05, 2016, 05:56:53 pm
i never saw what happend    ;D ?? just herd snipets
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Spruce on November 05, 2016, 06:28:22 pm
We have a ladder stand off with wheels purchased from a ladder supplier. It doesn't look like yours at all

Its this one
http://www.ladderstore.com/ladder-accessories/ladder-stays-stand-offs/ankalad-v-bracket-stand-off.html

If I rest the standoff on the roof tiles, which I do with one of my customers, then I fit it with the hooks facing up. If I don't then the standup tries to 'run' up the roof and comes off the ladder rungs. It doesn't do that when its 'upside down'.

If the ladder is against a vertical wall then the standoff works perfectly the correct way round.

I don't use it much as I found an ex windie selling a Ladder Master. This allows me to put the ladder up against the wall, clear a width of gutter of its innards, insert the Ladder Master into the gutter and then reposition the ladder against the gutter with fear of my weight damaging the gutter.

http://www.laddermaster.co.uk/product.htm


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Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 05, 2016, 06:51:04 pm
I've used a microlite standoff for years. Mainly used for resting on roof tiles for easy access to rooflines and never had one come off a ladder yet.  It was designed that way and is the only class 1 standoff that I know of which is also approved by H&S so in my book is the best standoff you can get in the UK. 
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 05, 2016, 07:02:27 pm
Spruce are you kinding me as that Ladder Master looks a total bonkers idea let alone wanting to use one  :o

Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Spruce on November 05, 2016, 07:12:48 pm
I've used a microlite standoff for years. Mainly used for resting on roof tiles for easy access to rooflines and never had one come off a ladder yet.  It was designed that way and is the only class 1 standoff that I know of which is also approved by H&S so in my book is the best standoff you can get in the UK.

For occasional use I couldn't justify spending £160 for a microlite ladder standoff tbh.

Spruce are you kinding me as that Ladder Master looks a total bonkers idea let alone wanting to use one  :o



Honestly Smurf, it works well. One of the local windies used one for years before he went wfp. I don't know about now though.

We had a local roofing company out replacing our dormer roofs with GRP last year. They used them. I asked where they got them and he got me a new one.

I didn't know what they were called until the roofing guy got me one. The name sticker was long gone on the local windies one and he thought it was called a Gutter Mate.

I patched our dormer roofs for years before getting the job done properly. I shaped a piece of 3" x 3" wooden fencing post and dropped that into the gutters which did a similar thing - keeping the gutter from 'collapsing' under my weight and that of the ladder.
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Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 05, 2016, 07:33:12 pm
Sorry Spruce but 24.99 says it all really.
Has this so say ladder safety device been independantly tested for safety and approved for use by HSE?  ::)roll



Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: the king on November 05, 2016, 07:45:39 pm
spruce that looks like a wall standoff and for corners of walls  probly not idel for on roof tiles ,if u look on e.bay microlite standoffs come up cheep i got mine for £20 ide never pay £160 tho as i dont use them that often  :)
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 05, 2016, 07:57:51 pm
I also have this too imported from the states but weigh’s a ton compared to the appropriately named microlite that don't work on corners vey well as I found out.  ;D  http://www.buyladder-max.com/ladder-max-multi-pro-24-bundle/
 
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: the king on November 05, 2016, 08:06:21 pm
looks like a handy tool  ;D
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 05, 2016, 08:10:36 pm
I rarely use ladders now but when I do I want the right kit for the job  ;)
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: the king on November 05, 2016, 08:14:59 pm
yes the rite kit helps  ive got loads of stuff in the van some only gets used now and again but its there if i need it  :)
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Yada Yada Yada - www.m-clean.uk on November 05, 2016, 08:15:13 pm
You've got enough pictures of them on your website, for someone who doesn't use them much ???
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 05, 2016, 08:20:16 pm
Rob if that was aimed at me I have no choice really now as my health is not that great so I just try to plod on the best I can to keep active.
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Yada Yada Yada - www.m-clean.uk on November 05, 2016, 08:23:11 pm
With a guttervac why do you need them
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 05, 2016, 08:30:38 pm
With a guttervac why do you need them

To do part/jobs that a guttervac can't manage and repair, replace joints etc 
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Yada Yada Yada - www.m-clean.uk on November 05, 2016, 08:34:01 pm
The website is much improved. Good effort.
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Spruce on November 07, 2016, 11:56:04 am
spruce that looks like a wall standoff and for corners of walls  probly not idel for on roof tiles ,if u look on e.bay microlite standoffs come up cheep i got mine for £20 ide never pay £160 tho as i dont use them that often  :)

I agree. I initially bought it as a standoff with wheels. I liked the V in the support rung for corners although its less stable using it this way in practice.
We never had an issue when using it against walls.

The microlite is a much better product. By the photos it has two stay bars in the form of a V.  So no matter how you use it its guaranteed to stay secure. I can't see exactly how to fits onto both ladder bars.

Ours has only 1 stay/support bracket so is inclined to tilt when on a sloping roof surface. If we turn it upside down its fine. I feel totally safe using it that way.

In hindsight it wasn't a very good purchase, but that's the way it is.  It gets used upside down once every 3 months, so
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 07, 2016, 02:41:51 pm
Spruce I do like the wheels on a microlite standoff as are specially designed (D wheels) that go flat when under weight for extra grip. I find having a standoff being able to rest on roof tiles is a much safer way to access a roofline.  Not only that the top of the ladder is above the guttering so you can gain a much better working position and also have the top of the ladder to hold onto. A microlite is also ideal when wanting to stabilise a ladder at the top to stop sideways slip when stepping on/off a flat roof too.

My triple ladders are fitted with an ankalad stabiliser (outriggers) that just folds out from the stiles and I would highly recommend those too when working on your own.

Like king said you can pick up good condition unused or nearly new ankalad and microlite stondoff  if you are lucky on fleebay for the fraction of the cost buying new. 


Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Spruce on November 07, 2016, 03:15:01 pm
Spruce I do like the wheels on a microlite standoff as are specially designed (D wheels) that go flat when under weight for extra grip. I find having a standoff being able to rest on roof tiles is a much safer way to access a roofline.  Not only that the top of the ladder is above the guttering so you can gain a much better working position and also have the top of the ladder to hold onto. A microlite is also ideal when wanting to stabilise a ladder at the top to stop sideways slip when stepping on/off a flat roof too.

My triple ladders are fitted with an ankalad stabiliser (outriggers) that just folds out from the stiles and I would highly recommend those too when working on your own.

Like king said you can pick up good condition unused or nearly new ankalad and microlite stondoff  if you are lucky on fleebay for the fraction of the cost buying new.

Thanks for that Smurf, I appreciate that.

I did look on Ebay today. There are a couple collection only which look in pretty good condition. There is also another that looks like its been involved in an atomic bomb test.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MICROLITE-WHEELED-LADDER-STAND-OFF-BY-LADDERFIX-LIGHTWEIGHT-/112196355076?hash=item1a1f6c8404:g:JawAAOSwxKtYBdlS

- not sure how someone has the audacity (is that the right word?) to put it up for resale in a condition like that.


And this one is going to have his more than 10 in stock, in stock, for a long time.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LADDERFIX-Microlite-Roof-Access-Stand-Off-/121125235675?hash=item1c33a06bdb:g:MkIAAMXQHU1RtuKY
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 07, 2016, 05:00:35 pm
That first link that thing is bent/knackered and only a fool would bid on it.
Second link it seems stardard practice for fleebay shops to put up goods to a silly high price on a shop listing when they don't have any to sell. 
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Smurf on November 07, 2016, 05:18:02 pm
The new ones come with yellow bits on the wheels and it has been renamed to "The Ultimate" https://www.midlandladders.com/accessories/the-ultimate-square-wheel-ladder-stay
Title: Re: @ king - mircolite standoff
Post by: Spruce on November 07, 2016, 08:21:02 pm
The new ones come with yellow bits on the wheels and it has been renamed to "The Ultimate" https://www.midlandladders.com/accessories/the-ultimate-square-wheel-ladder-stay

That's naughty. Thanks for the heads up on that one Smurf.