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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Og on October 13, 2016, 08:25:08 pm

Title: Website cost
Post by: Og on October 13, 2016, 08:25:08 pm
Just been quoted £1800 for a new website. I yelped.
Is that realistic though?
£700 design
£750 HTML css and other stuff I don't understand  php??
£400 for some other thing,  allowing us to play with it
Fee seo
Free odds and sods
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Clever Forum Name on October 13, 2016, 08:25:54 pm
£400-£500 tops for a pro one.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Cookie on October 13, 2016, 08:31:12 pm
I pay £30 a year for mine (Mr Site). I designed it myself. Very simple but it does the job.

I've also registered with Google My Business.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Marius Alexandru on October 13, 2016, 09:44:00 pm
I paid £250 for mine, I can send you over the details of the company or send me your details and I will pas them over.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Richard iSparkle on October 14, 2016, 10:46:33 am
Just been quoted £1800 for a new website. I yelped.
Is that realistic though?
£700 design
£750 HTML css and other stuff I don't understand  php??
£400 for some other thing,  allowing us to play with it
Fee seo
Free odds and sods

its not over the top at all. I was quoted £7000 for one of mine, which was all singing all dancing.. but didn't go with it.

it depends what you want the website to do.

if its just some pics, text, and whatever then you can get it for £500 or less.

if you're looking for best bang for your buck i would definitely say nathanael on here is very good.

i've used 4 different web designers in my time, one less expensive and the others more expensive, but my best experience all round has been nathanael, no question.

he's great with edits and very easy to work with. seems to have the patience of a saint

Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Smurf on October 14, 2016, 11:13:22 am
You don't need to pay out hundreds or even thousands as it's easy enough to do yourself thesedays using the likes of wordpress if you are that way inclined. Plenty of info/vids on the tinternet that can show you how.

If you can't be arsed to build your own then Nat is indeed worth speaking to. https://avondhu-internet.com/

Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Richard iSparkle on October 14, 2016, 11:28:58 am
You don't need to pay out hundreds or even thousands as it's easy enough to do yourself thesedays using the likes of wordpress if you are that way inclined. Plenty of info/vids on the tinternet that can show you how.

If you can't be arsed to build your own then Nat is indeed worth speaking to.

n fact, if you haven't already done your won website, i would suggest it is worthwhile designing one yourself as at lest a short term measure.

it gives a chance to get all the content sorted and the photos you'll need. that way you can have a good idea what you want when you get an experienced designer to do it for you.

content takes a lot of time to get right
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Soupy on October 14, 2016, 11:57:34 am
n fact, if you haven't already done your won website, i would suggest it is worthwhile designing one yourself as at lest a short term measure.

it gives a chance to get all the content sorted and the photos you'll need. that way you can have a good idea what you want when you get an experienced designer to do it for you.

content takes a lot of time to get right

Good idea that.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Pete Thompson on October 14, 2016, 12:13:28 pm
£1800 is not a bad price at all.  It never ceases to amaze me that people have an aversion to paying properly for the tools that generate income for them!

I once paid £5,000 for a website (not window cleaning) and it was absolutely top notch.  If you want superb quality and great design, you have to pay for it, its as simple as that.

Sure you can have it done cheaper or use a rubbishy do-it-yourself type thing, but it will look home-made.  For example, the Nathanael guy who is always popping up on here, everyone raves about him but in my opinion his sites are mediocre at best, and definitely have a home-made flavour to them.

I suppose it depends what you want it to do.  Do you just want it to be a device for people to find your contact details?  Or do you want to give the impression of high-quality?

If it's the latter, then £1800 is a steal.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Tosh on October 14, 2016, 12:20:36 pm
Ive got a few websites, these are all done by myself. If you’re halfway to being a little bit tech savvy go the whole hog and be fully tech savvy. My total website hosting cost for however many sites I have is £4.99 a month for all of them with tsohost.


http://www.panel-clean.co.uk


http://www.oakleywindowcleaning.co.uk/
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Stoots on October 14, 2016, 12:21:20 pm
Of course you can pay 1000's for a site or you can pay peanuts.

It all depends on the design and the functionality you require.

Nats sites I agree look good,  I wouldn't say mediocre and u would say great or poope but they are good, clean and simple and built to a budget.

If you only need a 5 page site targetting your local town and yiu don't have much competition then a cheap site either done yourself or for a few hundred is more than fine.

But maybe you need 50 pages with loads of functionality and content maye you are targetting multiple citys and have a fleet of vans offering lots of services. You want the slickest design and best possible seo then you pay a lot more.

For an average window cleaner u would say 500 is more than enough to pay.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Leeds on October 14, 2016, 03:08:46 pm
guy who owns the other big window cleaning forum will do you a good website and SEO for £10 a month, no upfront costs.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Pete Thompson on October 14, 2016, 05:48:02 pm
Ive got a few websites, these are all done by myself. If you’re halfway to being a little bit tech savvy go the whole hog and be fully tech savvy. My total website hosting cost for however many sites I have is £4.99 a month for all of them with tsohost.


http://www.panel-clean.co.uk


http://www.oakleywindowcleaning.co.uk/

No offense, but this is exactly what I mean by home-made looking.
Perfect example, with oakley window cleaning, why do the menu items open in a new tab? No offense but errors like that are amateurish, and would never be made by a professional web designer.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Tosh on October 14, 2016, 06:08:35 pm
Well, they're websites based on templates, that’re designed by professionals.

I’ve never heard of links opening in a different tab as being what defines a website as unprofessional or not, ever.


I’d view an unprofessional website as being one which has tweets about Liverpool football club embedded in it and links that don’t even open and looks like Mickey Mouse.


Terrible grammar.

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1476465426_Screen Shot 2016-10-14 at 18.16.37.png)

Useless layout of webpages.

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1476465480_Screen Shot 2016-10-14 at 18.17.24.png)



Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Sandy Cheeks on October 14, 2016, 06:29:23 pm
Ive got a few websites, these are all done by myself. If you’re halfway to being a little bit tech savvy go the whole hog and be fully tech savvy. My total website hosting cost for however many sites I have is £4.99 a month for all of them with tsohost.


http://www.panel-clean.co.uk


http://www.oakleywindowcleaning.co.uk/

No offense, but this is exactly what I mean by home-made looking.
Perfect example, with oakley window cleaning, why do the menu items open in a new tab? No offense but errors like that are amateurish, and would never be made by a professional web designer.

Neither is the Oakley one optimised for mobile, it displays terribly - school boy error! ;D
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Tosh on October 14, 2016, 06:32:21 pm
Thats odd Cumbucket you should say that as Google doesn’t think so. Maybe you should try refraining from the need to medicate your brain from your life.

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1476466862_Screen Shot 2016-10-14 at 18.40.42.png)
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Mick Kent on October 14, 2016, 06:35:38 pm
Poor rip it out of Matts website evening.
Well i like it.  ;D
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Tosh on October 14, 2016, 06:39:15 pm
 ;D

Its okay, says more about them than me.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: W.booler on October 14, 2016, 06:52:43 pm
Thats odd Cumbucket you should say that as Google doesn’t think so. Maybe you should try refraining from the need to medicate your brain from your life.

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1476466862_Screen Shot 2016-10-14 at 18.40.42.png)
How do you know he's chumbucket/Patrick star after only 4 posts?
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Sandy Cheeks on October 14, 2016, 07:04:45 pm
The proof is in the pudding, the site in the link does not display anything like optimal on my Xperia. I was just responding to the suggestion that the website demonstrated an "amateur" build quality. Your response seems to suggest you didn't like that pointing out? ::)roll
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Sandy Cheeks on October 14, 2016, 07:10:48 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1476468451_Screenshot_20161014-190609.png)

Maybe you accept that as mobile friendly? ;D clicking the full website does not work either.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Tosh on October 14, 2016, 07:37:04 pm
The site is optimised to present a shortened version of what is available on the regular site. It's usual practise.

Perhaps you'd like to show us your website, desktop and mobile version. Like you say, proof is in the pudding.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Tosh on October 14, 2016, 07:38:24 pm
Your response seems to suggest you didn't like that pointing out? ::)roll

I just don't like trolls. Repetitive trolls.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: 8weekly on October 14, 2016, 07:44:40 pm
Thats odd Cumbucket you should say that as Google doesn’t think so. Maybe you should try refraining from the need to medicate your brain from your life.

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1476466862_Screen Shot 2016-10-14 at 18.40.42.png)
How do you know he's chumbucket/Patrick star after only 4 posts?
I knew after one. In a couple of weeks he'll be banned again I'm sure. He can't help but be unpleasant.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Sandy Cheeks on October 14, 2016, 07:50:43 pm
The site is optimised to present a shortened version of what is available on the regular site. It's usual practise.

Perhaps you'd like to show us your website, desktop and mobile version. Like you say, proof is in the pudding.

It's not optimised at all, usual practice is to have a site displays at least something like the full version and have an acceptable menu system. I agree with the previous poster that your site is amateurish in the grand scheme of things. Does that make me a troll? ???
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Tosh on October 14, 2016, 07:56:29 pm
Does that make me a troll? ???

No, you’ve been a troll for a long time.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Sandy Cheeks on October 14, 2016, 08:18:48 pm
Does that make me a troll? ???

No, you’ve been a troll for a long time.

I only joined the other day!  :-\ the other poster pointed out a "clearly" valid criticism of your website to which I agreed.  ::)roll
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Frankybadboy on October 14, 2016, 08:20:33 pm
bit like your windows cleaning bateman

total  amateurish  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Tosh on October 14, 2016, 08:33:41 pm
bit like your windows cleaning bateman

total  amateurish  ;D ;D ;D ;D

;)
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Tosh on October 14, 2016, 08:34:32 pm
Does that make me a troll? ???

No, you’ve been a troll for a long time.

I only joined the other day!  :-\ the other poster pointed out a "clearly" valid criticism of your website to which I agreed.  ::)roll

I suppose you're a southerner too.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: W.booler on October 14, 2016, 08:38:36 pm
Does that make me a troll? ???

No, you’ve been a troll for a long time.

I only joined the other day!  :-\ the other poster pointed out a "clearly" valid criticism of your website to which I agreed.  ::)roll
.   I'm with you on this one sandy cheeks. How can you be a troll after 4 posts?  ???
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Shrek on October 14, 2016, 08:47:35 pm
Does that make me a troll? ???

No, you’ve been a troll for a long time.

I only joined the other day!  :-\ the other poster pointed out a "clearly" valid criticism of your website to which I agreed.  ::)roll
.   I'm with you on this one sandy cheeks. How can you be a troll after 4 posts?  ???

It's not just 4 posts , he keeps trolling and getting banned and then starts a new profile and the circle starts again
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Sandy Cheeks on October 14, 2016, 08:58:20 pm
Does that make me a troll? ???

No, you’ve been a troll for a long time.

I only joined the other day!  :-\ the other poster pointed out a "clearly" valid criticism of your website to which I agreed.  ::)roll
.   I'm with you on this one sandy cheeks. How can you be a troll after 4 posts?  ???

It's not just 4 posts , he keeps trolling and getting banned and then starts a new profile and the circle starts again

HE is a SHE and you obviously have me mistaken for someone else, Geeeez, talk about sensitive EGOS!  :o :o
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: clarkson on October 14, 2016, 11:36:41 pm
£1800 is not a bad price at all.  It never ceases to amaze me that people have an aversion to paying properly for the tools that generate income for them!

I once paid £5,000 for a website (not window cleaning) and it was absolutely top notch.  If you want superb quality and great design, you have to pay for it, its as simple as that.

Sure you can have it done cheaper or use a rubbishy do-it-yourself type thing, but it will look home-made.  For example, the Nathanael guy who is always popping up on here, everyone raves about him but in my opinion his sites are mediocre at best, and definitely have a home-made flavour to them.

I suppose it depends what you want it to do.  Do you just want it to be a device for people to find your contact details?  Or do you want to give the impression of high-quality?

If it's the latter, then £1800 is a steal.

I totally agree. If you just want your name and contacts for customers to find you  a one page template will do.

If you want to market yourself  on the internet you have to spend at  least this sort of figure or your wasting your time.

John
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Og on October 15, 2016, 07:54:36 am
Thanks for your replies.
We have an okay site already, just need to keep it fresh looking, more professional etc.

It's all about perception, baby.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 16, 2016, 07:53:30 am
This guy did my website, he boast he has 400 sites on the 1st page of Google which is really what we all want. And the price isn't too bad

http://www.kireth.com/

£99.00 + £10 per month

A few samples of the above type of site
http://www.patio-drive-cleaners-hull.co.uk/
http://www.patio-drive-cleaners-beverley.co.uk/
http://www.carpetcleaners-barnsley.co.uk/
http://www.carpetcleaners-horsham.co.uk/
http://www.carpetcleanersdarlington.co.uk/
http://gardenvillagecarpetcleaners.co.uk/
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Smurf on October 16, 2016, 12:08:23 pm
This guy did my website, he boast he has 400 sites on the 1st page of Google which is really what we all want. And the price isn't too bad

http://www.kireth.com/

£99.00 + £10 per month

A few samples of the above type of site
http://www.patio-drive-cleaners-hull.co.uk/
http://www.patio-drive-cleaners-beverley.co.uk/
http://www.carpetcleaners-barnsley.co.uk/
http://www.carpetcleaners-horsham.co.uk/
http://www.carpetcleanersdarlington.co.uk/
http://gardenvillagecarpetcleaners.co.uk/


I guess looking at those domain names it would help a wee bit for better google ranking without too much effort ;D

Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Smurf on October 16, 2016, 12:19:31 pm
Mike are your sites built with Joomla?
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: John Higgins on October 17, 2016, 04:24:51 pm
Just been quoted £1800 for a new website. I yelped.
Is that realistic though?
£700 design
£750 HTML css and other stuff I don't understand  php??
£400 for some other thing,  allowing us to play with it
Fee seo
Free odds and sods

We Do Cleaning websites
£99.00 + £10 per Month

See www.kireth.com

Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Og on October 17, 2016, 07:15:40 pm
Well, the average on this thread is about £2400. So we've gone for it.
Title: Re: Website cost
Post by: Smurf on October 17, 2016, 09:14:57 pm
Og post a link when it's live as I would be very intersted to see the finished site to see what you get for that kind of dosh.