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Title: Water heater recommend
Post by: DB Cleaning Services on October 13, 2016, 04:03:15 pm
Can any one recommend a decent water heater,
Without having to pay  about £2k plus
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: Smurf on October 13, 2016, 04:36:00 pm
Fastar 8L lpg water heater works well enough for me.
It's a wee bit cheaper too  ;D http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8L-16KW-Gas-LPG-Hot-Water-Heater-Instant-Propane-8L-min-Tankless-Boiler-Shower-/182306988998?hash=item2a7257e3c6:g:eOsAAOSwGtRXz7od

It's not bad for a chepo lpg heater as is 16 kw compared to an expensive 9 kw webasto type heater being sold by the likes of purefreedom etc http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/pure-freedom-isothermal-diesel-water-heater-9kw-2-operator-unit.html
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: swanson on October 13, 2016, 05:55:17 pm
Looks really good
How is that installed into your van
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: chris turner on October 13, 2016, 06:09:49 pm
Fastar 8L lpg water heater works well enough for me.
It's a wee bit cheaper too  ;D http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8L-16KW-Gas-LPG-Hot-Water-Heater-Instant-Propane-8L-min-Tankless-Boiler-Shower-/182306988998?hash=item2a7257e3c6:g:eOsAAOSwGtRXz7od

It's not bad for a chepo lpg heater as is 16 kw compared to an expensive 9 kw webasto type heater being sold by the likes of purefreedom etc http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/pure-freedom-isothermal-diesel-water-heater-9kw-2-operator-unit.html

Wow that's a beast for the price.
How difficult is it to install smurf?
May get something like that just for con roofs, fascias and first cleans. Don't really see the need for hot water for everyday work though.
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: Smurf on October 13, 2016, 06:23:18 pm
Fastar 8L lpg water heater works well enough for me.
It's a wee bit cheaper too  ;D http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8L-16KW-Gas-LPG-Hot-Water-Heater-Instant-Propane-8L-min-Tankless-Boiler-Shower-/182306988998?hash=item2a7257e3c6:g:eOsAAOSwGtRXz7od

It's not bad for a chepo lpg heater as is 16 kw compared to an expensive 9 kw webasto type heater being sold by the likes of purefreedom etc http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/pure-freedom-isothermal-diesel-water-heater-9kw-2-operator-unit.html

Wow that's a beast for the price.
How difficult is it to install smurf?
May get something like that just for con roofs, fascias and first cleans. Don't really see the need for hot water for everyday work though.

For me as far as the install went it could not have been easier as just stuck it on my old pf trolley and strapped the gas bottle where the container would go.  Job done  ;D

If I want I can run a garden hose to the heater from an outside tap so can use hot tap water as well for fsg's conny roofs etc instead of wasting pure when not needed. Its also still portable but I'm to lazy to take it out of the van.

Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: DB Cleaning Services on October 13, 2016, 06:32:17 pm
Would this run 2 poles at the same time ?
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: dazmond on October 13, 2016, 06:33:07 pm
eccotemp L10.I got mine from corwoods.comes with gas regulator.£300(including  VAT and delivery)

what i love about it is you can have the water scalding hot if you want for filthy add on jobs/first cleans etc.its also bigger and more robust than the L5 and handles the water on full flow no problem. :)
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: DB Cleaning Services on October 13, 2016, 06:42:29 pm
Would it run 2 poles ?
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: Smurf on October 13, 2016, 10:20:45 pm
Would this run 2 poles at the same time ?

The way mine is set up the heater goes after the pump to the reel so I guess you would need two of them if running a proper 2 man system using 2 pumps etc etc so to run them independently of each other.
 
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: DaveG on October 14, 2016, 06:12:16 am
Would it run 2 poles ?

Yes, when I used to run a 1 pump, 2 man system, it worked fine.

Mine was an L5.
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: Smurf on October 14, 2016, 09:59:00 am
Would it run 2 poles ?

Yes, when I used to run a 1 pump, 2 man system, it worked fine.

Mine was an L5.

I guess you just used a Y coupling on the outlet of the heater to both hose reels then?
Did you not find controlling the temp and flow to both poles doing it that way an issue when turning the water flow off/on from either pole?
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: DB Cleaning Services on October 14, 2016, 06:28:23 pm
Do you need hot water hoses ?
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: dazmond on October 14, 2016, 06:54:19 pm
Do you need hot water hoses ?

everything needs to be upgraded mate if you ve been using cheap equipment .hose reels,hose,connectors,pole hose and brushes.tighten fittings even tighter and double clip them if possible.

the standard microbore from gardiners is now suitable for hot water.highly recommended(but your hose might be ok).hose reels need to be heavy duty metal ones(with no plastic spindle like the pure freedom ones!)i use rectus 26 for connectors and mainly use stiff brushes when using hot water.pole hose i currently use is exceed innovations blue hose but any PU hose will do. :)
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: Dave Willis on October 14, 2016, 07:03:26 pm
And xtreme poles.
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: DaveG on October 14, 2016, 08:43:48 pm
Would it run 2 poles ?

Yes, when I used to run a 1 pump, 2 man system, it worked fine.

Mine was an L5.

I guess you just used a Y coupling on the outlet of the heater to both hose reels then?
Did you not find controlling the temp and flow to both poles doing it that way an issue when turning the water flow off/on from either pole?

Not really as we both work at roughly the same speed..  To be honest we don't really use the heater for hot water,  just to stop it freezing and to give us nice soft hoses.
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: Jack Judd on October 19, 2016, 06:41:27 pm
Thanks for taking the time to reply.  Very useful  :)
Title: Re: Water heater recommend Smurf God
Post by: Jack Judd on October 19, 2016, 07:04:54 pm
Thanks for all advice on water heaters.. have taken Smurf's advice and gone for Fastar 8L lpg.  Have a big job coming up in 10 days.  Currently using 6mm hose.  It was suggested by other guru to use rectus connections.  Any idea amongst the 100 's of connections I would need to connect from unit to hose.
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: DB Cleaning Services on October 19, 2016, 08:54:06 pm
I've took his advice too,just ordered a fastar 8l, £110 inc del  :)
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: mufcglen on October 19, 2016, 09:11:12 pm
I've got the fastar heater although under a different name, they're cheap and not built well at all but they certainly do the job of heating up the water and I like the fact they have a temp display too, I run mine about 45-50 degrees on the display and at the pole end I'm getting about 35 degrees which is luke warmish as I cracked a window a few years ago running it quite hot in the cold!!
Running at this temp too I find the Gardiner microbore and all season pole hose can just about take it without turning into silly string😂
I'd definately recommend one to anyone though just make sure you plumb it all in properly and have adequate ventilation like doors open or flue etc and be prepared for leaks when all up and running as everyone softens and loosens up!
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: Og on October 19, 2016, 09:21:22 pm
Does hot water weigh less than cold?
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: Smurf on October 19, 2016, 09:25:46 pm
Does hot water weigh less than cold?

No unless its that hot turns into steam then yes you could argue it would be
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: Dave Willis on October 19, 2016, 09:59:32 pm
It's wetter.
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: Og on October 22, 2016, 12:16:16 pm
Less dense innit
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: the king on October 22, 2016, 08:04:10 pm
eccotemp L10.I got mine from corwoods.comes with gas regulator.£300(including  VAT and delivery)

what i love about it is you can have the water scalding hot if you want for filthy add on jobs/first cleans etc.its also bigger and more robust than the L5 and handles the water on full flow no problem. :)
does it have the 20 minit cut off thing my l5 has a cut off wich is a pain in the ars lol
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: Smurf on October 22, 2016, 11:34:34 pm
eccotemp L10.I got mine from corwoods.comes with gas regulator.£300(including  VAT and delivery)

what i love about it is you can have the water scalding hot if you want for filthy add on jobs/first cleans etc.its also bigger and more robust than the L5 and handles the water on full flow no problem. :)
does it have the 20 minit cut off thing my l5 has a cut off wich is a pain in the ars lol

The 20 min cut out is one of the safety feature on these type of heaters so should not be messed about with.
Anyway if you had bought a decent heater it's not an issue at all as when I turn the water off at the pole it resets no problem on mine.  :-*

As I've mentioned before L5's are crap   ;D
Title: Re: Water heater recommend
Post by: Flight 447 on October 27, 2016, 10:16:27 pm
Xline systems have great heaters that run from fuel tank, well work a look,, you get what you pay for, i dont fancy tank of Gas in my van to be honest