Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: escorttdi on October 08, 2016, 10:25:25 pm
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Am going to put 2 350 litre tanks in van. Ma problem is How do you connect the 2. I.e. When the first one empties you don't have to disconnect pump etc How do I get it to suck out the second tank when say the first one is half empty
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Why are you doing it this way anyway? Because you happen to have tanks or are you keeping then seperate due to chemical use?
If first option, sell them and invest in one tank!
Alternatively, are you stacking them on each other (with support) or side by side (infront of the other)? Simply feed tank a into main tank b. So as water level drops, its automatically starts to fill. But maybe incorporate a tap so you have control (for whatever reasons your doing this)
Whats your plumbing skills like?
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I take it the two tanks are going to be used for just water and not chems?
First put taps/stop valves on each tank outlet so each tank can be turned off independently. Then connect the outlet pipe/hose from each tank with a joiner so you end up with one pipe/hose to the inlet of the pump. Best to put a stop valve on that pump inlet too so if need be can turn the water off say if you need to remove/service the pump. What type of fittings you need will depend if you are going to use just 1/2 in hose or plastic pipe.
Myself I use two tanks and just drop the inlet hose into the lid of whatever tank I want to use as I'm still using a pf trolley static in the van. That way I can still use the pf trolley if/when required so have the best of both.
Regards to using chems for now I'm testing a small 55 litre quid bike crop spray setup (8 lpm chem pump) static in the van. I will probably be modding the inlet hose from the side outlet of that tank to the chem pump with stop valves and a joiner with another drop suction hose simular to the pf trolley. That way l have the option to draw from either that 55 litre tank or 20 litre containers etc with the same chem pump when wanting to use different chems. Not only that by adding the stop valves and drop hose will be easy to flush the pump, hoses etc through with water when there is chems still left in the tank.
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we have two 650s joined to togather via a simple t joint ,( we don't bother with taps as they never get used ) from that single pipe get lead from the front of the van to a different t joint where it the turns it back in too to pipes for two pumps
we did it this way because we want both tanks to empty at the same time so the water didn't go off , and it works very well , if theres only one man going out we will just fill one 650 and with in an hour the pressure of the water as pushed the water in to the emity tank so they are both level (i.e. 325 in each )
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cheers for reply..... will try one of the above.... like the sound of smurfys
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we have two 650s joined to togather via a simple t joint ,( we don't bother with taps as they never get used ) from that single pipe get lead from the front of the van to a different t joint where it the turns it back in too to pipes for two pumps
we did it this way because we want both tanks to empty at the same time so the water didn't go off , and it works very well , if theres only one man going out we will just fill one 650 and with in an hour the pressure of the water as pushed the water in to the emity tank so they are both level (i.e. 325 in each )
Water go off??
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we have two 650s joined to togather via a simple t joint ,( we don't bother with taps as they never get used ) from that single pipe get lead from the front of the van to a different t joint where it the turns it back in too to pipes for two pumps
we did it this way because we want both tanks to empty at the same time so the water didn't go off , and it works very well , if theres only one man going out we will just fill one 650 and with in an hour the pressure of the water as pushed the water in to the emity tank so they are both level (i.e. 325 in each )
What do you dive a Cargo? Thats a lot of weight
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we have two 650s joined to togather via a simple t joint ,( we don't bother with taps as they never get used ) from that single pipe get lead from the front of the van to a different t joint where it the turns it back in too to pipes for two pumps
we did it this way because we want both tanks to empty at the same time so the water didn't go off , and it works very well , if theres only one man going out we will just fill one 650 and with in an hour the pressure of the water as pushed the water in to the emity tank so they are both level (i.e. 325 in each )
What do you dive a Cargo? Thats a lot of weight
330 swb transits were running at the minute biggest pay load you can get with going to a 350 lwb
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we have two 650s joined to togather via a simple t joint ,( we don't bother with taps as they never get used ) from that single pipe get lead from the front of the van to a different t joint where it the turns it back in too to pipes for two pumps
we did it this way because we want both tanks to empty at the same time so the water didn't go off , and it works very well , if theres only one man going out we will just fill one 650 and with in an hour the pressure of the water as pushed the water in to the emity tank so they are both level (i.e. 325 in each )
I always use taps on outlets of tanks now as had a 450 which was full at the time empty into the back of the van when the gardiner nylon outlet snap off. Was a finger in the d**e moment I can tell you ;D ;D
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1300kg of water :o
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we have two 650s joined to togather via a simple t joint ,( we don't bother with taps as they never get used ) from that single pipe get lead from the front of the van to a different t joint where it the turns it back in too to pipes for two pumps
we did it this way because we want both tanks to empty at the same time so the water didn't go off , and it works very well , if theres only one man going out we will just fill one 650 and with in an hour the pressure of the water as pushed the water in to the emity tank so they are both level (i.e. 325 in each )
What do you dive a Cargo? Thats a lot of weight
330 swb transits were running at the minute biggest pay load you can get with going to a 350 lwb
Biggest payload for any transit 330 is 1,588Kg. SWB 2.4TDi (115ps) 330 Low Roof RWD
With 1,300Kg of water, you have 288Kg for fuel, water tanks, tank mounting, driver, driver's mate, equipment. Good luck on the weighbridge.
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That's a mental amount of water to carry about when both tanks are full in that type van surely Susan ???
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we have two 650s joined to togather via a simple t joint ,( we don't bother with taps as they never get used ) from that single pipe get lead from the front of the van to a different t joint where it the turns it back in too to pipes for two pumps
we did it this way because we want both tanks to empty at the same time so the water didn't go off , and it works very well , if theres only one man going out we will just fill one 650 and with in an hour the pressure of the water as pushed the water in to the emity tank so they are both level (i.e. 325 in each )
What do you dive a Cargo? Thats a lot of weight
330 swb transits were running at the minute biggest pay load you can get with going to a 350 lwb
Biggest payload for any transit 330 is 1,588Kg. SWB 2.4TDi (115ps) 330 Low Roof RWD
With 1,300Kg of water, you have 288Kg for fuel, water tanks, tank mounting, driver, driver's mate, equipment. Good luck on the weighbridge.
we don't care simple as that , we have work to do and it get done , we ran for years and year over weight like most vans do that are running out of dhl , dpd ect ect its like when I am out on my r1 do I think oh should I not do 140mph along this road because "good luck with the speed gun ?? "
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That's a mental amount of water to carry about when both tanks are full in that type van surely Susan ???
you have no idea on what weight is like on a van , we ran 14 vans in at dhl and city link back in the day , mostly exlwb sprinters, and jumbos which would only carry around 1 ton or so most days they went out with over 2 tonne in weight added to them ,
I can remember being fully loaded and the last pallet they put on the rear end was 900kgs by itself ! the good old day of losting your mud flaps at the first bump in the road ,
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I'd be more worried about how dangerous it is especially with a load like water....to the driver and to other road users.
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I'd be more worried about how dangerous it is especially with a load like water....to the driver and to other road users.
unfortunately the world is full of ignorant arseholes
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I'd be more worried about how dangerous it is especially with a load like water....to the driver and to other road users.
Some folk are utterly selfish and self centred, mate.
They don't consider stuff like that.
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I'd be more worried about how dangerous it is especially with a load like water....to the driver and to other road users.
unfortunately the world is full of ignorant arseholes
yup and I am one of them , you should see the looks you get when dropping two gears at 70 and power wheeling away from crapy slow cars on the m25 ;D ;D
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yup and I am one of them ,
It's rare I agree with you, but you've nailed it here.
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we don't care simple as that , we have work to do and it get done ,
That's the spirit.
Don't let the rest of the world get in your way.
Literally.
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@Susan Dean
Please tell us your comments on this thread are an example of your sledgehammer wit and that you aren't really advocating going over payload limits ...
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I'm sure Susan was just kidding ;D ;D
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@Susan Dean
Please tell us your comments on this thread are an example of your sledgehammer wit and that you aren't really advocating going over payload limits ...
befoure I answer this you answer me one thing , when you see drivers on the phone at the lights, driving ect do you get out of your van and tell them off for it ? if not why ?? because your not sat behind your p.c. ?? or do you man up and go and give it large face to face ?
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She is having a laugh lads! Surely no one is that much of a selfish driver knowingly putting others at risk like that when running a so called "professional business".
She is on a windup.
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@Susan Dean
Please tell us your comments on this thread are an example of your sledgehammer wit and that you aren't really advocating going over payload limits ...
befoure I answer this you answer me one thing , when you see drivers on the phone at the lights, driving ect do you get out of your van and tell them off for it ? if not why ?? because your not sat behind your p.c. ?? or do you man up and go and give it large face to face ?
It's not about "manning" or "womanning" up Susan, or "giving it large" or being confrontational. On this forum I have a role as a moderator and one of the tenets of this forum is not to encourage criminal and/or illegal acts and so I support that role regardless of my personal feelings.
As for speaking to other drivers about their use of phone "at the lights" I have done so but only on my bicycle or motorbike as to communicate (typically) through two pieces of glass and several feet of airspace is not always practical. Usually they respond sheepishly but occasionally they will mouth off but it has never gone further than me saying if you really want to go to prison for a moment's red mist you're going the right way. One chap got out but other than gesticulating wildly and shouting at me nothing worse happened. I just shrugged my shoulders and drove away.
Being human of course it often depends upon my mood, time available or the situation and being imperfect I put my hands up and admit to illegal behaviour such as exceeding the speed limit. But when it is pointed out to me I try not to take it emotionally.
Now the other point is what I might risk for myself and for others. When I was an employer I would not allow my employees to take the same risk as I might. That would be not just against health and safety or morally wrong but bullying.
I mean can you imagine you as a responsible employer putting one of your employees in a position where he or she feels co-erced to drive an overweight van or climbing a ladder so as not to incur the boss's displeasure or jeopardise their job?
Of course not.