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Title: Van broken into
Post by: chez on September 29, 2016, 01:23:36 pm
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Right on my drive under my nose. Cut a hole pulled a lever and straight in. Never took a thing cos there are no power tools. So got to try and combat this so it doesn't happen again. Gonna get cctv, better security lights, and a magnetic sign to put on the panel showing its window cleaning kit not power tools.
Tried second hand door route but no joy so it's a new door £1450 insurance job😡😡
2/3 days lost while it's fixed all for nothing. Makes you blood boil doesn't it. 5 vans in same area done the same night.
Be careful guys yo your security before the gits get yours!!
I stopped and told several van owners and without exception they all had a story of theft to tell!!
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Soupy on September 29, 2016, 01:26:49 pm
Who's the burd with the shopping?
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: nathankaye on September 29, 2016, 02:16:20 pm
A couple of months back i had back window put through, took nothing as didnt know value of wfp equipment n setup i suppose. I did similar, wait till after an event and now i have cctv cameras front n back, signs on van n van windows saying no equipment/tools left in van. Hopefully nothing else will happen.
 If you work close to your van, could you not gaffer tape it down to cover hole as well and continue working?
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Soupy on September 29, 2016, 02:54:49 pm
If you work close to your van, could you not gaffer tape it down to cover hole as well and continue working?

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Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: SeanK on September 29, 2016, 03:51:44 pm
Fiberglass/ Isopon the hole sand it down and then give it a coat of white paint, put a advertising wrap over it and
you will never see the repair, job done for a lot less than £1450.
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: nathankaye on September 29, 2016, 04:26:46 pm
If you work close to your van, could you not gaffer tape it down to cover hole as well and continue working?

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Lol
However my comment was a get me by, whilst waitingbfor new door. Taking it that hes gone down insurance route, as he said it will be a couple of days of work. A quick fix until replacement door sorted and can still work.
If not going down that route then next best thing, seank comment
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: chez on September 29, 2016, 04:54:51 pm
Who's the burd with the shopping?

I don't know why I bother posting
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Clever Forum Name on September 29, 2016, 04:59:21 pm
That's horrible. Seen Ford transits and connects with the side door pulled down.

I have spent a lot of time and money on making my van as hard as possible to steal. Now thinking dead locks are the next thing to install :(
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: chez on September 29, 2016, 05:12:36 pm
A couple of months back i had back window put through, took nothing as didnt know value of wfp equipment n setup i suppose. I did similar, wait till after an event and now i have cctv cameras front n back, signs on van n van windows saying no equipment/tools left in van. Hopefully nothing else will happen.
 If you work close to your van, could you not gaffer tape it down to cover hole as well and continue working?
Thanks for your reply.
Seems the best route to go down to protect the kit. I have been able to carry on working, just looks a mess. Could've got the job repair cheaper but the vans in good nik and the body repair guy said that they can't guarantee a patch or weld cos it's been exposed to the elements and rust is certain to show up. So this time I'll get it done professionally and then prepare my house with the same as you - cctv etc
Pain tho to go to all that trouble just for stupid thieves grrrrr!!
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: chez on September 29, 2016, 05:15:35 pm
That's horrible. Seen Ford transits and connects with the side door pulled down.

I have spent a lot of time and money on making my van as hard as possible to steal. Now thinking dead locks are the next thing to install :(
Thinking seriously about deadlocks, but where I live, I can park the van close to a the back gates so the back doors can't be opened, and close to the side wall so the sliding door can't be opened. Doing this every night now.
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Mick Kent on September 29, 2016, 06:07:29 pm
Lighten up man, i thought it was funny about who is the woman with the shopping.
Sad to hear you got broken into, thieves are 1 notch above nonces in my books.  Scum
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: chez on September 29, 2016, 06:50:23 pm
Lighten up man, i thought it was funny about who is the woman with the shopping.
Sad to hear you got broken into, thieves are 1 notch above nonces in my books.  Scum
Yes I thought it was really funny 😂😂
Not in a particularly light hearted mood at the mo!
Hope that by posting this it makes us all more aware of the thieving  scum bags!!
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: windowswashed on September 29, 2016, 07:16:33 pm
That rip can be welded over with a plate  :)
Sympathise with you, to**ers  to do that.
Van alarmed and a camera, house alarmed, cctv with panning cameras operated by phone so can check even when away from home.  Too many thieving gits around.
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: lal on September 29, 2016, 07:28:31 pm
 Sorry to hear this about your van chez, i mean to cut a hole in your door and completely wreck it for absolutely nothing,
 i would be well peed off if it happened to me, so i can understand your anger, they are just scum of the lowest form.

Lal
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: lal on September 29, 2016, 07:37:46 pm
That rip can be welded over with a plate  :)
Sympathise with you, to**ers  to do that.
Van alarmed and a camera, house alarmed, cctv with panning cameras operated by phone so can check even when away from home.  Too many thieving gits around.

Hi windowswashed, I'm thinking about getting a cctv system for our house, yours with panning cameras operated by phone
sounds interesting, would you mind telling me what make it is.
Lal
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Soupy on September 29, 2016, 07:44:55 pm
Who's the burd with the shopping?

I don't know why I bother posting

I though it was maybe her wot done it. She looks shifty.

Seriously though, sorry to hear about your predicament.
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: windowswashed on September 29, 2016, 07:47:13 pm
That rip can be welded over with a plate  :)
Sympathise with you, to**ers  to do that.
Van alarmed and a camera, house alarmed, cctv with panning cameras operated by phone so can check even when away from home.  Too many thieving gits around.

Swann panning dome cameras so it's not obvious where the camera is viewing, Got one on the front/side and one on  the back/side so van covered at night. Got a few fixed cameras here and there.  Link cameras to phone apps with passwords to monitor cctv whilst away. Cameras detect movement and take a snapshot of best face image frame.
House alarm automatically alerts with text or phone  up to ten numbers including the police if set that way.
I'm very security conscious after someone tried to break into a previous van I had and when a neighbour in my last place got broken into in the very early jhours of darkness. Forgot to mention get a recording box with plenty of memory and back it up elsewhere, i.e. to the cloud for 24 hr storage so it records everything  and loops, mines rigged up to a solar panel so it doesn't matter if the electric goes off aa it's still recording.  Ex army so safety and security conscious like you wouldn't believe.
Hi windowswashed, I'm thinking about getting a cctv system for our house, yours with panning cameras operated by phone
sounds interesting, would you mind telling me what make it is.
Lal
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: lal on September 29, 2016, 08:27:11 pm
That rip can be welded over with a plate  :)
Sympathise with you, to**ers  to do that.
Van alarmed and a camera, house alarmed, cctv with panning cameras operated by phone so can check even when away from home.  Too many thieving gits around.

Swann panning dome cameras so it's not obvious where the camera is viewing, Got one on the front/side and one on  the back/side so van covered at night. Got a few fixed cameras here and there.  Link cameras to phone apps with passwords to monitor cctv whilst away. Cameras detect movement and take a snapshot of best face image frame.
House alarm automatically alerts with text or phone  up to ten numbers including the police if set that way.
I'm very security conscious after someone tried to break into a previous van I had and when a neighbour in my last place got broken into in the very early jhours of darkness. Forgot to mention get a recording box with plenty of memory and back it up elsewhere, i.e. to the cloud for 24 hr storage so it records everything  and loops, mines rigged up to a solar panel so it doesn't matter if the electric goes off aa it's still recording.  Ex army so safety and security conscious like you wouldn't believe.
Hi windowswashed, I'm thinking about getting a cctv system for our house, yours with panning cameras operated by phone
sounds interesting, would you mind telling me what make it is.
Lal

Thanks very much for your advice, sounds like you've got your Home & Van well covered, I've already got a similar Home
alarm system which texts you if theres been a breach, letting you know which door or window, plus you can arm or disarm
the alarm from your phone, but i will definitely look into cctv system you have.

Lal
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: duncan h on September 29, 2016, 09:07:10 pm
You wont stop them getting in but you can make it hard for them to take.
I have a mk7 Transit and they are so easy to take. You can but keys on ebay that fit any lock. You can but a device that plugs into port and off you go. As many transits as you like for less than £100.
The police said 50 transits went in the Bradford area in 1 month alone.
We should all take our poles inside, but were all too lazy to do it
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Clever Forum Name on September 29, 2016, 10:24:27 pm
You wont stop them getting in but you can make it hard for them to take.
I have a mk7 Transit and they are so easy to take. You can but keys on ebay that fit any lock. You can but a device that plugs into port and off you go. As many transits as you like for less than £100.
The police said 50 transits went in the Bradford area in 1 month alone.
We should all take our poles inside, but were all too lazy to do it

Had my OBD port moved and disabled. Anti pick lock fitted, pedal box as well.

Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on September 30, 2016, 05:37:43 pm
That rip can be welded over with a plate  :)
Sympathise with you, to**ers  to do that.
Van alarmed and a camera, house alarmed, cctv with panning cameras operated by phone so can check even when away from home.  Too many thieving gits around.

why do this this ? so when the hoodies come round you will get a nice image of what evers printed on there top ? because cameras don't stop vans getting done over one bit but I guess you will have a video of them doing it to reply over to upset yourself more
Hi windowswashed, I'm thinking about getting a cctv system for our house, yours with panning cameras operated by phone
sounds interesting, would you mind telling me what make it is.
Lal
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: andyM on September 30, 2016, 05:55:03 pm
why do this this ? so when the hoodies come round you will get a nice image of what evers printed on there top ? because cameras don't stop vans getting done over one bit but I guess you will have a video of them doing it to reply over to upset yourself more

I agree, a hood, scarf or mask will make them unidentifiable so  cctv will be as good as an ashtray on a motorbike.
A bright security light with motion sensor and/or an audible warning message or alarm triggered by a sensor would be more effective in my opinion. 
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on September 30, 2016, 06:46:21 pm
why do this this ? so when the hoodies come round you will get a nice image of what evers printed on there top ? because cameras don't stop vans getting done over one bit but I guess you will have a video of them doing it to reply over to upset yourself more

I agree, a hood, scarf or mask will make them unidentifiable so  cctv will be as good as an ashtray on a motorbike.
A bright security light with motion sensor and/or an audible warning message or alarm triggered by a sensor would be more effective in my opinion.
and a good old fashioned alarm with a sencer they can see , they will see it and move on to a easyer van in the street
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: nathankaye on September 30, 2016, 07:10:20 pm
Any of you guys see robocop? Forgot what the big beast police robots were called (not robocop but the other ones), it might be a little over the top but i would want them! Simple warning message "you have 5 seconds to comply!"
Or same message with motion sensor machine guns!!
Maybe a slight active imagination i know,  but dont you get tired of all the added extras or effort you have to go into because of trying to actually earn a living for yourself or family!
Even tho i have cctv, i eould agree that they are a waste of time combined with the great law n order service we have.
I reported a theft from the rear of my garden and that i had cctv and a image of the 2 lads. The "bill" filled me sith confidence when they came out 3 weeks later to ask if i could show them the image to circulate
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: SeanK on September 30, 2016, 07:53:42 pm
What about getting a Trunk Monkey, all you need is a flap on the bulk head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFqr3_frh3Q
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: andyM on September 30, 2016, 08:38:28 pm
What about getting a Trunk Monkey, all you need is a flap on the bulk head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFqr3_frh3Q

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Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: windowswashed on September 30, 2016, 09:52:40 pm
why do this this ? so when the hoodies come round you will get a nice image of what evers printed on there top ? because cameras don't stop vans getting done over one bit but I guess you will have a video of them doing it to reply over to upset yourself more

I agree, a hood, scarf or mask will make them unidentifiable so  cctv will be as good as an ashtray on a motorbike.
A bright security light with motion sensor and/or an audible warning message or alarm triggered by a sensor would be more effective in my opinion.
and a good old fashioned alarm with a sencer they can see , they will see it and move on to a easyer van in the street

If they break in  whilst I'm out they can say hello to my lovely dog who just loves growling and flashing her teeth,  loves growling at strangers :) personally if they break in, they can leave by ambulance, I couldn't give a toss for the welfare of any burglar  ;)
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: AuRavelling79 on October 01, 2016, 08:48:22 am
What about getting a Trunk Monkey, all you need is a flap on the bulk head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFqr3_frh3Q

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I want one. Do Halfords sell them?
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: G Griffin on October 01, 2016, 09:46:48 am
Language is a bit savoury so don't click if easily offended or don't have a sense of humour:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khLRjyJ_Ymo


Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: duncan h on October 01, 2016, 01:49:06 pm
why do this this ? so when the hoodies come round you will get a nice image of what evers printed on there top ? because cameras don't stop vans getting done over one bit but I guess you will have a video of them doing it to reply over to upset yourself more

I agree, a hood, scarf or mask will make them unidentifiable so  cctv will be as good as an ashtray on a motorbike.
A bright security light with motion sensor and/or an audible warning message or alarm triggered by a sensor would be more effective in my opinion.
and a good old fashioned alarm with a sencer they can see , they will see it and move on to a easyer van in the street

If they break in  whilst I'm out they can say hello to my lovely dog who just loves growling and flashing her teeth,  loves growling at strangers :) personally if they break in, they can leave by ambulance, I couldn't give a toss for the welfare of any burglar  ;)
They would take the dogs for bait round where I live.
I take my dogs with me. One of them barks when people go near my van. Always running round from the back of houses to see who it is
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on October 01, 2016, 02:59:40 pm
if your on the transit fourm and see how easy it is to get in to vans you would die !!!! not good when you can buy a one key fits all off amazon for 19.99
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Tosh on October 02, 2016, 12:38:52 am
if your on the transit fourm and see how easy it is to get in to vans you would die !!!! not good when you can buy a one key fits all off amazon for 19.99

Really, I find that very difficult to believe. Have you got a link.
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Don Kee on October 02, 2016, 08:50:09 am
http://fordtransit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=167845


I've already moved my OBD, looking at maybe fitting some deadlocks at some point
(A few things I'll be doing when I get a free weekend,it's just finding one!!!!)
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on October 02, 2016, 09:14:58 am
http://fordtransit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=167845


I've already moved my OBD, looking at maybe fitting some deadlocks at some point
(A few things I'll be doing when I get a free weekend,it's just finding one!!!!)

we have been following this a lot due to having a transit jumbo with a truck mount fitted , with this and a tracker jammer you can get off ebay for less then 2 pounds we have gone back to the good old fashioned paddle lock,   also looking in too fiting a wireless unit that's hocked up to the house alarm so if on a night they try and get in it the house alarm will go off as we can set it in diffent zones
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: duncan h on October 02, 2016, 10:11:32 am
I park mine so you cant get in back doors or driver door. Always dead lock at night. Not much more I can door. Had my mk 5 side window smashed so they could look in it. Nobody heard anything. So noisy where I live
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Tosh on October 02, 2016, 11:07:06 am
I had a Cat4 Thatcham alarm fitted when I bought my Cutom. I also have the following steering wheel lock

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I'm just about to order external CCTV. The van is always reversed up to the house. Nothing more can be done.
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: CleanClear on October 02, 2016, 02:53:08 pm
Yep my mate in less than a year had his new transit just completley lifted away with tools, he's a builder. Bought new van and tools and they emptied his van of the tools.
 I'd suggest fitting them rape alarms to the doors. Yes they're a pain in the arse when you forget theyre on and you open the doors, but they do do a great job. They're only cheap too, about a fiver a pop. There is no way anyone is hanging around if you trigger one of them.
 With CCTV all you'll be able to do is look back at the footage of who robbed you.
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Don Kee on October 02, 2016, 04:43:39 pm
I had a Cat4 Thatcham alarm fitted when I bought my Cutom. I also have the following steering wheel lock

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I'm just about to order external CCTV. The van is always reversed up to the house. Nothing more can be done.


Thatcham 4 basically only means you've got locking wheel nuts...its not an alarm system it's a category


Customs come with a thatcham 1 rated alarm system as standard


Edit - sorry, depends on the model you've got its only the limited and sport with the thatcham 1
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Tosh on October 02, 2016, 04:53:30 pm
The van already had an alarm system fitted, I had a Thatcham alarm fitted on top of the custom one.
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Don Kee on October 02, 2016, 05:04:49 pm
I believe you lol just saying that a thatcham 4 is locking nuts etc...assumed you went for tracker type thing?

Out of interest what model do you have and do you know what was fitted on top of thatcham 1 stuff?
Title: Re: Van broken into
Post by: Tosh on October 02, 2016, 07:13:02 pm
I have no idea off the top of my head, it was nearly 4 years ago, I cant reminder anything past 3.30 this morning.