Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Mick Kent on September 27, 2016, 04:37:09 pm
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Anybody have a full round where only houses £50 plus are on the books(detached standalone)?
You would only need 4 customers a day or 80 customers a month to clean a grand a week.
I reckon with lots of hunting and research i could build a round from sold boards over the course of 6 months maybe a year that could be like above!
Anyway that is the challenge for myself, be an easy 1 to rent out and maintain, anybody done or doing it that way domestic wise? Im pretty sure it will work just worried if will get a lot of 4 weekly is too recent types with higher costing cleans?
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Sounds like a great plan Mick! I would like to make my round nice and neat like that! My minimum price is now £28, but my average price is around the £50 mark. I do find that most people these days want every other month and the bigger houses ie £50 and above want three monthly. I would be interested to know how you get on with your plan.
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I tend to do one residental property a day external cleaning wise.
Regards to window cleaning unless you can get a few together you could end up working longer hours including travel time between them for the same time you could earn on a compact round cleaning smaller properties.
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Sounds like a great plan Mick! I would like to make my round nice and neat like that! My minimum price is now £28, but my average price is around the £50 mark. I do find that most people these days want every other month and the bigger houses ie £50 and above want three monthly. I would be interested to know how you get on with your plan.
Hey long time no hear stranger :-)
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Sounds like a great plan Mick! I would like to make my round nice and neat like that! My minimum price is now £28, but my average price is around the £50 mark. I do find that most people these days want every other month and the bigger houses ie £50 and above want three monthly. I would be interested to know how you get on with your plan.
Ill post in a few months when the ball is rolling, i need to get on the sold board hunt first before knocking and building it up as a simple canvass of mansions doesnt work as you well know.
So maybe ill need 160 8 weekers which will take longer but i did think that 4 weekly would be hard to convince them all although im still quite confident a lot will go with 4 weekly! Will see how it pans out.
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I tend to do one property a day external cleaning wise.
Id love that. How long did it take for a full business like that though? Imbet years and years.
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I never really wanted just to clean glass as to be honest does my head day in day out so went down the exterior property cleaning route in the end.
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I tend to do one residental property a day external cleaning wise.
Regards to window cleaning unless you can get a few together you could end up working longer hours including travel time between them for the same time you could earn on a compact round cleaning smaller properties.
I dont intend to work it so not bothered about how long will take within reason, im the king of compact work normally so fancied a change and a challange with something different. It may go Pete Tong but ill give it my best shot either way.
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I'm aware of a few that deal with very wealthy clientele so you have nothing to lose giving it a go.
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Anybody have a full round where only houses £50 plus are on the books(detached standalone)?
You would only need 4 customers a day or 80 customers a month to clean a grand a week.
I reckon with lots of hunting and research i could build a round from sold boards over the course of 6 months maybe a year that could be like above!
Anyway that is the challenge for myself, be an easy 1 to rent out and maintain, anybody done or doing it that way domestic wise? Im pretty sure it will work just worried if will get a lot of 4 weekly is too recent types with higher costing cleans?
This is my exact market and works fantastic
Just hurts when you loose a customer 😝
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How well does sold board canvassing work Mick in your experience, as in a percentage of those knocked and spoken to what would be an average return?
cheers
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I tend to do one residental property a day external cleaning wise.
Regards to window cleaning unless you can get a few together you could end up working longer hours including travel time between them for the same time you could earn on a compact round cleaning smaller properties.
You are wrong.
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1 house instead of 5 £10 houses as far as time goes a lot of these people are out so time on the job is down to the person cleaning them time wise,this kind of work is the pot at the end of the rainbow it's more reliable on the whole than commercial. A lot of the time a job lost is most of the time down to bad cleaning or the fact they've stuck with there old WC,a much more relaxed way of working and less running around like a headless chicken cleaning 20-30 houses for less money. You may have to do a few miles between jobs but he ho it's worth it.
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I tend to do one residental property a day external cleaning wise.
Regards to window cleaning unless you can get a few together you could end up working longer hours including travel time between them for the same time you could earn on a compact round cleaning smaller properties.
You are wrong.
I was just taking about 50 squid small jobbies far apart from each other as apposed to doing say eight 25-30 squid smaller jobbies in a row. ::)roll
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I like this idea
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Today's work
£160
£85
£65
£45
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Today's work
£160
£85
£65
£45
Start at 9 finish 4.30
Nobody cares.
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Today's work
£160
£85
£65
£45
Start at 9 finish 4.30
Nobody cares.
I do. I find it really useful to compare daily takings with other people in the industry
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A lot of peeps care, the few that don't care happen to be the ones that say.
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Today's work
£160
£85
£65
£45
Start at 9 finish 4.30
Nobody cares.
I do. I find it really useful to compare daily takings with other people in the industry
Why ? they are just numbers that mean nothing. you don't know what the person did for those figures how good was the
quality and so on. does he clean frames does he clean doors does he clean sills the list is endless.
The fact is this whole thread is pointless,
There will be guys doing 20 £25 properties easily a day which is no different to 10 £50 jobs or 5 £100 jobs and all will be
elite rounds.
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For arguments sake, if the value of the day's taking was the same, I much prefer doing lots of smaller jobs than one big job.
You get more rest between work, driving time. Whereas on larger jobs you're constantly grafting.
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For arguments sake, if the value of the day's taking was the same, I much prefer doing lots of smaller jobs than one big job.
You get more rest between work, driving time. Whereas on larger jobs you're constantly grafting.
Agree with this , I much prefer smaller jobs as on some large jobs they feel like they're never gonna end
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For arguments sake, if the value of the day's taking was the same, I much prefer doing lots of smaller jobs than one big job.
You get more rest between work, driving time. Whereas on larger jobs you're constantly grafting.
Up to a point I agree. I'm not keen on older properties as they tend to be fiddly
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plus having your "eggs in lots of smaller baskets" it doesnt hurt when you lose one or two for whatever reason. :)
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of course i have jobs that are £50+ a time and they make a nice change from run of the mill jobs but whether im working my way through very compact estate jobs(20+ a day) with virtually no driving about or cleaning 6 or 7 larger jobs spread out or say 10-11 medium size jobs down a posh cul de sac im earning good money(all within a few miles of each other).
to me the key is having a mixture of all sorts of domestic jobs and a few commercial and nearly all the work in the same area.
less driving about
less wear and tear on the van
low fuel bills(around £40 a month)
shorter working days so im home quicker/earlier.
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having lots of jobs also means more cups of coffee/biscuits etc,more add on jobs from existing customers and more tips at xmas. ;D
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of course i have jobs that are £50+ a time and they make a nice change from run of the mill jobs but whether im working my way through very compact estate jobs(20+ a day) with virtually no driving about or cleaning 6 or 7 larger jobs spread out or say 10-11 medium size jobs down a posh cul de sac im earning good money(all within a few miles of each other).
to me the key is having a mixture of all sorts of domestic jobs and a few commercial and nearly all the work in the same area.
less driving about
less wear and tear on the van
low fuel bills(around £40 a month)
shorter working days so im home quicker/earlier.
Agreed, I'm in a similar position not because I planned it that way its just the way the jobs came along, there's plus and minus points on both, I have a couple of what I would call grand design type properties that are well priced, but as with a lot of these
architect masterpieces there's been no thought given on how to maintain the property or clean the windows making them awkward and hard to clean. Self cleaning glass what a joke.
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I think a mix of work is good to be honest. Our best is £270 4 weekly with gutters and pressure washing every other time, but we also have a £10 8 weekly - both valuable to the business.
That's why GoCardless is good as we have quite a few days whereby the price is the lower end of the scale but when they're all paying by direct debit you get the whole lump sum anyway. I like the variety but it's true if you get in with the higher end of the market it's surprising where it can take you.
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Today's work
£160
£85
£65
£45
Start at 9 finish 4.30
Nobody cares.
I do. I find it really useful to compare daily takings with other people in the industry
Why ? they are just numbers that mean nothing. you don't know what the person did for those figures how good was the
quality and so on. does he clean frames does he clean doors does he clean sills the list is endless.
The fact is this whole thread is pointless,
There will be guys doing 20 £25 properties easily a day which is no different to 10 £50 jobs or 5 £100 jobs and all will be
elite rounds.
i find this thread very interesting. not trying to be rude, but if you aren't interested in the thread you could just look at another thread and not comment on it.
i really like Mick Kents posts because he seems to have a similar business mindset to me.
there are loads of threads on here that I have no interest in i just skip them
it's pretty common in industries for people to compare takings so they can see how they are doing and learn from other peoples successes.
if i;m earning say £500 a day, and someone else tells me in the same industry they are earning £600, I'm interested to see if there's something i can do differently.
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Today's work
£160
£85
£65
£45
Start at 9 finish 4.30
Nobody cares.
I do. I find it really useful to compare daily takings with other people in the industry
Why ? they are just numbers that mean nothing. you don't know what the person did for those figures how good was the
quality and so on. does he clean frames does he clean doors does he clean sills the list is endless.
The fact is this whole thread is pointless,
There will be guys doing 20 £25 properties easily a day which is no different to 10 £50 jobs or 5 £100 jobs and all will be
elite rounds.
i find this thread very interesting. not trying to be rude, but if you aren't interested in the thread you could just look at another thread and not comment on it.
i really like Mick Kents posts because he seems to have a similar business mindset to me.
there are loads of threads on here that I have no interest in i just skip them
it's pretty common in industries for people to compare takings so they can see how they are doing and learn from other peoples successes.
if i;m earning say £500 a day, and someone else tells me in the same industry they are earning £600, I'm interested to see if there's something i can do differently.
Richard I got shot down on here for saying I compare prices of what other shiners are charging in my area so understand perfectly where you coming from.
The thing is if its somebody local you can check out how he's getting those earnings and adjust your own if needed, on here I could tell you I get a £100 for a certain job and do 5 a day but that's not going to be of any use to yourself or others as you
wont know what I actually do to get that, put it this way if I was to double my speed I could double my turnover but you might
look at me cleaning and think cowboy he's not cleaning them half right.
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Today's work
£160
£85
£65
£45
Start at 9 finish 4.30
Nobody cares.
I do. I find it really useful to compare daily takings with other people in the industry
Why ? they are just numbers that mean nothing. you don't know what the person did for those figures how good was the
quality and so on. does he clean frames does he clean doors does he clean sills the list is endless.
The fact is this whole thread is pointless,
There will be guys doing 20 £25 properties easily a day which is no different to 10 £50 jobs or 5 £100 jobs and all will be
elite rounds.
i find this thread very interesting. not trying to be rude, but if you aren't interested in the thread you could just look at another thread and not comment on it.
i really like Mick Kents posts because he seems to have a similar business mindset to me.
there are loads of threads on here that I have no interest in i just skip them
it's pretty common in industries for people to compare takings so they can see how they are doing and learn from other peoples successes.
if i;m earning say £500 a day, and someone else tells me in the same industry they are earning £600, I'm interested to see if there's something i can do differently.
Richard I got shot down on here for saying I compare prices of what other shiners are charging in my area so understand perfectly where you coming from.
The thing is if its somebody local you can check out how he's getting those earnings and adjust your own if needed, on here I could tell you I get a £100 for a certain job and do 5 a day but that's not going to be of any use to yourself or others as you
wont know what I actually do to get that, put it this way if I was to double my speed I could double my turnover but you might
look at me cleaning and think cowboy he's not cleaning them half right.
i see what you're saying Sean.
i guess what i do, is there are people on here who i trust what they say, and some that i don't really pay a lot of attention to, not because i think they are lying, but just because i don't know.
if it still pricks my interest. if the figures are interesting I'll ask them more Qs and make a judgement
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Mine so far started at 9 it's 1pm now
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About 90 quid and need to finish shortly for docs. Pretty poor day even by my standard
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Flat oot, like a duck's foot.
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I've done 2 hours marketing (leafleting). Exhausted. I don't know how you lot manage it!
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Iv been out giving off to workmen who decided to dig a hole in the road in front of my drive while I was out
yesterday meaning I have to park my van down the road with no access to water.
Some private firm working on gas pipes or something, these guys are a law onto themselves.
Sorry guys if I'm not my usual pleasant self. lol.
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Everyone I've ever known has started with smaller jobs and built it up over the years with bigger jobs gained along the way,the way to do it is to constantly sort wheat from chaff. I always kept on the smaller jobs to the point I didn't have the time to get to them anymore on time,in a lot of cases I was turning up to 6 weekly jobs every 3/4 months late because I was putting them off due to better bigger jobs. In the end I found it less profitable to be running round trying to do 3/4 jobs when I could plod round 1 for more money,I know there are a lot of WCs that have and prefer the smaller jobs but TBH you can never say it's easier or more profitable to do them. I used to hate it when I'd look in my book and think I've got to go to X today and knock out 5-10 jobs when I had a lovely quick job down the road for more money,you almost feel that although your getting paid for them your still losing out.
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A lot of peeps care, the few that don't care happen to be the ones that say.
Or those who just enjoy cutting through BS.
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If I don't care about something I simply have no desire to comment, on here or elsewhere.
It's not necessarily bullpoop because you disagree with it. We all have opinions, they're all equally valid.
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I think most would agree to be able to work less for more reward as there are only so many hour in a day you can physicaly work. How you go about doing that is the tricky bit.
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I think most would agree to be able to work less for more reward as there are only so many hour in a day you can physicaly work. How you go about doing that is the tricky bit.
Not only that but as the old joints start to fail it starts to become a necessity, I might disagree with some of the claims on here
but I don't disagree with the idea of doing as little possible for as much as possible.