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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Dave Willis on September 22, 2016, 09:33:17 pm

Title: Odd website visit
Post by: Dave Willis on September 22, 2016, 09:33:17 pm
These people spent some time on my site  ???    Uk Government Department For Work And Pensions

For fifteen and a half hours  ???
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Shrek on September 22, 2016, 09:49:05 pm
Might have been someone browsing instead of working and left your page open . How do you know who went on your page anyway?
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Dave Willis on September 22, 2016, 09:52:43 pm
Statcounter
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: JSMC on September 22, 2016, 10:39:05 pm
Statcounter

What is that? Some kind of software program?
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Ian Lancaster on September 22, 2016, 10:55:19 pm
http://statcounter.com

It's free, keeps a log of all your visitors and other relevant data.
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Tosh on September 22, 2016, 10:58:17 pm
You might get an enquiry from the taxman  ;D

Then again someone who works for them might have been browsing for a window cleaner during work hours to clean their 1 windowed bungalow.
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: paulben on September 23, 2016, 05:50:05 am
Read somewhere they are starting to get hot with cash jobs or jobs that could be done for cash and ebay . Maybe trying to work out what your business is worth then compare it to what's been declared . If they are checking window cleaners bet they watch sites like this waiting for someone to brag I earn more than you or £500 for conservatory clean .
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: nathankaye on September 23, 2016, 08:56:49 am
Read somewhere they are starting to get hot with cash jobs or jobs that could be done for cash and ebay . Maybe trying to work out what your business is worth then compare it to what's been declared . If they are checking window cleaners bet they watch sites like this waiting for someone to brag I earn more than you or £500 for conservatory clean .

Shud be able to spot the tax man on here.
Everybody seems to take what people say on here with a pinch of salt. That is apart from the tax man who believes it all and starts the process to tax you on the declared income on here instead  ;D
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Soupy on September 23, 2016, 10:42:48 am
These people spent some time on my site  ???    Uk Government Department For Work And Pensions

For fifteen and a half hours  ???

How do you know, does it say that a computer in the DWP was viewing your site? I have a tracker thingymabob on mine, all it gives me is i.p and approx location.
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Dave Willis on September 23, 2016, 12:37:13 pm
Thats what it gave me, I copied and pasted it on here. Spoke to my accountant today, she seems to think they are going for small businesses who employ but could be looking for anything.
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Soupy on September 23, 2016, 12:42:56 pm
What did she mean 'going after'? How / why would the DWP go after anyone other than for benefit fraud?
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Dave Willis on September 23, 2016, 08:00:38 pm
Investigating I suppose. I clean her windows so mentioned my 'visit'. She had a lot more important things on her mind so didn't give much away. Could be she doesn't know either. She does have different clients on her books in different trades who have been investigated regarding tax fraud.

Most Stat Counter data gives the country and area of the visit. Now and again it will throw up an organisation like a University or school. Usually it gives the town so quite often I know what's coming. You'd be amazed at how much foreign traffic your website gets hit with.
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Dave Willis on September 23, 2016, 08:04:03 pm
Visitor Analysis & System Spec
Referring URL:   
(No referring link)
Host Name:   ns3035706.ip-51-255-81.eu   Browser:   Unknown
IP Address:   51.255.81.4 — Label IP Address   Operating System:   Unknown
Location:   United Kingdom   Resolution:   Unknown
Returning Visits:   0   Javascript:   Disabled
Visit Length:   15 hours 37 mins 35 secs   ISP:   Uk Government Department For Work And Pensions
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: SeanK on September 23, 2016, 08:09:55 pm
Cant think how spying on your website would catch you being up to no good, that said fill a suitcase full of lolly
and get to the Cayman Islands asap as the rubber gloves could be getting lubricated as we speak. lol.
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Dave Willis on September 23, 2016, 08:18:28 pm
Yeah, but if you earn £600 a day on your own like I do then I guess they will be looking for the employees.
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: capn sparkle on September 23, 2016, 10:20:41 pm
Hardly gonna fall for this tho!!

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=204483.0;all





Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Soupy on September 25, 2016, 09:53:14 am
Investigating I suppose. I clean her windows so mentioned my 'visit'. She had a lot more important things on her mind so didn't give much away. Could be she doesn't know either. She does have different clients on her books in different trades who have been investigated regarding tax fraud.

Wouldn't tax fraud be HMRC?
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: *Hector* on September 25, 2016, 10:30:55 am
Ordinarily yes it would Soupers.... But when you are claiming disability, carers allowance and unemployment benefit whilst earning £600 a day... the DWP want their pound of flesh too....

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Dave Willis on October 15, 2016, 03:12:43 pm
Had another meeting with my accountant (sign off last years accounts). She did wonder if they used different people as benchmarks. She has always said I'm either the most honest windowcleaner on her books or the hardest working she's ever had  ;D

She thinks they compare people, MrX has been in business as a sole trader for ten years and regularity hits say 50kwhilst Mr Y doesn't earn enough to pay any tax and has been trading just as long and does the same job. She said it does happen but it's difficult for them to prove what you earn.
I have heard of one guy who got caught years ago and another who got investigated although I think he was legit - just bought a lot of vehicles in one year which triggered off a few bells.
They don't appear to have been back to my site since
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Soupy on October 16, 2016, 06:00:56 am
I still don't see why it would be the dwp. Unless you're claiming benefits on the side? If you're going to be investigated it'd be by HMRC.
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: andyM on October 16, 2016, 08:41:53 am
Visitor Analysis & System Spec
Referring URL:   
(No referring link)
Host Name:   ns3035706.ip-51-255-81.eu   Browser:   Unknown
IP Address:   51.255.81.4 — Label IP Address   Operating System:   Unknown
Location:   United Kingdom   Resolution:   Unknown
Returning Visits:   0   Javascript:   Disabled
Visit Length:   15 hours 37 mins 35 secs   ISP:   Uk Government Department For Work And Pensions

My guess is that it was probably someone who works at DWP using a works computer and was either looking for a window cleaner for themselves or a friend/ relative.
Most civil service positions have an 8 hour working day, and as the visit length was 15 hours 37 mins my theory is that they were online looking after finishing work, and mistakenly stayed logged on until they came into work the following day.
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Dave Willis on October 16, 2016, 09:18:59 am
Maybe, it could be that they have cleaners on benefits who take the pee. I know a couple who have extravagant lifestyles and barely 
work. Their holiday bills are probably similar to annual my tax bill.
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Smurf on October 16, 2016, 11:59:10 am
Think you are being rather paranoid myself as some office workers looking for stuff on tinternet keep their browsers open whilst working so that don't mean jack really.
 

Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: 8weekly on October 16, 2016, 04:39:46 pm
What Smurf said. It's a bit daft to think otherwise and your accountant is probably just humouring you.
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Dave Willis on October 16, 2016, 06:32:11 pm
Of course she is what does she know?  ;D
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: slap bash on October 17, 2016, 03:54:11 pm
This is  a fine example of B/s we read on here this thread starts  off with someone from  Works Pentions looking at a site too long and ends up with W& P morphing into the tax man. Just a fine lot of bull. Anyone want to add their own bit of mature to the mix.
Title: Re: Odd website visit
Post by: Dave Willis on October 17, 2016, 04:35:24 pm
You are a plonker Slappy. It was what my accountant said not me. I haven't a clue what they werè doing i don't think anyone does.