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Title: colloidal cleaning
Post by: edward coller on September 12, 2016, 10:51:52 pm
Saw presentation at carpet cleaners carnival on above and wondered if any of you guys are using these products and there efficacy, ie do they work! simon
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: Elfyn on September 13, 2016, 07:52:28 am
I've been using it for, probably, ten years. And it works very well.
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: macky on September 13, 2016, 09:11:02 am
Aren't  these being banned shortly ?
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: premier floorcare on September 13, 2016, 09:49:16 am
Think that's more to do with silver you can find a brief  but concise explanation about colloidal cleaning  here
https://eco2000.com.au/colloidal-cleaners/
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: edward coller on September 13, 2016, 12:09:36 pm
Thanks for reply, what do you mean by the term silver, please. Simon
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: premier floorcare on September 13, 2016, 01:37:10 pm
It's the medical use of colloidal silver as a health benefit there are calls for it to be banned in the EU
https://nccih.nih.gov/health/silver
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: edward coller on September 13, 2016, 06:30:08 pm
thank you for that.Simon
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: SteveAllan on September 13, 2016, 07:04:05 pm
They do work on light soiling anything heavy they struggle. But still too much hanging about for me.
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: john martin on September 13, 2016, 09:51:55 pm
Think that's more to do with silver you can find a brief  but concise explanation about colloidal cleaning  here
https://eco2000.com.au/colloidal-cleaners/

What he fails to point out in his explaination blurb is that the terms colloid and micelles are formed by all detergents  .... not just the plant juice hes pushing .
Google it yourself , these are basics in all sorts of chemistry , not just detergency
eg   http://swiftcraftymonkey.blogspot.ie/2010/04/surfactant-chemistry-micelles.html

The silver would have nothing to do with the plant detergent ...more confusion

Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: premier floorcare on September 14, 2016, 09:00:41 am
I'm not "pushing"anything just offering an explanation of colloidal cleaning. The silver reference was in answer to his question about the banning.
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: john martin on September 14, 2016, 01:52:04 pm
I'm not "pushing"anything just offering an explanation of colloidal cleaning. The silver reference was in answer to his question about the banning.
Not you  :) don't take offence , I mean whoever wrote the text in the link ...is describing a process common to most cleaning products ....as distinct from describing what (if anything) is unique to the plant derived surfactant ....
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: premier floorcare on September 14, 2016, 02:53:00 pm
No offence taken 😊😊
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: Gary Webber on September 15, 2016, 08:23:27 am
They do work on light soiling anything heavy they struggle. But still too much hanging about for me.
Can I ask what product you used and if you heated it up to cut down the dwell time wait?

The picture below are from an Incinerator Plant where the upstairs carpets get trashed by  workers coming into the offices. This is thick protein at it's best. Removed with Colloidal Cleaner 5-10 minute dwell
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: SteveAllan on September 16, 2016, 12:48:18 pm
Yes i apply it hot, which one have you used there.
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: neil 47 on September 16, 2016, 02:07:46 pm
No before and after picture is as it seems .

Was the before pic taken after pre sprayed
Did you open the curtains for the after shot
Did you use photo editor
What construction is the carpet
What is the soiling
What do you use to agitate
What Heat are you using
What psi is it rinsed at
Was it bonneted
Was there sun damage etc etc

They do look good though
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: mr muzzy on September 16, 2016, 06:27:39 pm
No before and after picture is as it seems .

Was the before pic taken after pre sprayed
Did you open the curtains for the after shot
Did you use photo editor
What construction is the carpet
What is the soiling
What do you use to agitate
What Heat are you using
What psi is it rinsed at
Was it bonneted
Was there sun damage etc etc

They do look good though
  where has the plug socket gone from the left side wall ,on the second picture
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: CleanerCarpets on September 16, 2016, 06:44:28 pm
lol, the door on the left has disappeared too and that wall has got longer  ;D ::)roll
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: Mike Halliday on September 16, 2016, 06:46:00 pm
Or the carpet seam  in the doorway in the after photo..... not there in the before ;)
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: Gary Webber on September 19, 2016, 07:19:25 pm
Ahh i've been sussed out!  I was up all night editing photos and photo shopping pictures to make them look good! Or could it be the area BEYOND THE DOOR is the starting point for the photo. Best way to show the end result is to show a partial cleaned bit (but there again that has been photo shopped and edited about 50 times because I don't have anything better to do for 5 hours  :) :) :)
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: Gary Webber on September 19, 2016, 07:25:09 pm
No before and after picture is as it seems .

Was the before pic taken after pre sprayed  No
Did you open the curtains for the after shot  No curtains in a commercial premises corridor
Did you use photo editor No
What construction is the carpet Commercial carpet tile
What is the soiling Heavy protein from waste disposal plant walked across carpets (almost like bar black)
What do you use to agitate  Nothing
What Heat are you using  50 degree water mixed with Colloidal Cleaner
What psi is it rinsed at No Rinsing
Was it bonneted  Microfibre padded
Was there sun damage etc etc  Internal Corridor with lamps on 24-/7
They do look good though They sure do!
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: Jennifer w on September 19, 2016, 08:17:13 pm
Hi Gary,

Results look great,

Is there a strong odour upon finishing?

Regards

Jen
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: edward coller on September 19, 2016, 08:19:36 pm
Thank you Gary I appreciate those photos and  and your time and effort. Simon
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: Gary Webber on September 19, 2016, 08:25:29 pm
Hi Jen,

Great part of it is, product has no odour. No phosphates,  Petroleum based solvents,  Peroxides or VOC's
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: neil 47 on September 19, 2016, 08:36:46 pm
Gary

It wasn't a slight on your integrity ,

It was a statement in general terms about all before and after photos .
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: Gary Webber on September 19, 2016, 09:12:02 pm
Hi Neil,

Not a problem, although there are some people who love to snipe and have a dig. 

Trouble is taking pictures in venues that bad, you don't want to walk on the floor to start with, never mind at the end! so we left connecting door closed.
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: SteveAllan on September 20, 2016, 04:01:14 pm
Which one you using Gary, is it M Power
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: John Kelly on September 20, 2016, 04:29:53 pm
It will be the one Gary sells.
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: SteveAllan on September 20, 2016, 06:13:19 pm
Lol, don't know him. All becomes clear, just like the carpet :)
Title: Re: colloidal cleaning
Post by: Gary Webber on September 21, 2016, 09:17:53 am
Lol, don't know him. All becomes clear, just like the carpet :)
don't really understand what becomes clear?  The question to you was what products were you using, as you stated they only work on light soiling. I was interested in  what you were using to suggest colloids only work on light soils.  I am not promoting or suggesting any products. Unfortunately just like the pictures, someone has to read something else into it and twist it....