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Title: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: slap bash on July 20, 2016, 04:12:47 pm
Hi Fellas.
  To the Viro- sol users, I have noticed the different coloured ( Red and a lighter orange  on e bay ) are they the same product or a diluted version being the orange one.   Help please. There seems to be a big difference in prices. What is a fair price.
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: robert mitchell on July 20, 2016, 07:39:04 pm
Thanks, chaps, always knew  I could depend on you for the information I need to make the right buy.


Dude , you gave it a couple of hours , people are working , having dinner , enjoying the sun etc !

Its possible nobody knows the answer , it could be variations in the camera used to take the pic and not actually be any different in colour in reality.

I would suggest buying from a clover distributor if you are unsure .
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on July 20, 2016, 07:43:09 pm
we use loads of the stuff (5l) a week and its always light orange never red , but we buy it from a supplyer  not ebay
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: Knocker on July 20, 2016, 08:10:29 pm
Viro-sol is always orange and never red...
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: Smurf on July 20, 2016, 09:29:09 pm
I don't know what the big fuss is about with viro-sol as I thought it was pants myself for what I wanted it for.
Where does it say it's safe if it gets on glass. Which is the same as ubik 2000 that I use to use and they confirmed both are not meant to be used on glass   ;D ;D

Look red to me  ::)roll http://www.cloverchem.co.uk/2013/uk/product_detail.asp?prod_code=%27326%27&range_sub=%2720%27
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: Matt. on July 20, 2016, 10:11:09 pm
Been down that rd smurf, asked clover chemicals if I could turn up to there site with my own ibc in the van and have it filled, there answer was there signed up to suppliers, ics being a local one to me.

As for the difference in colour ur right

Ics sell virosol as power sol as it's the lighter version, I have taken a bottle of virosol I got off mark South Wales guy who sells virosol in the darker version on eBay into ics and showed them the difference in colour
I even sent email to guy called James from clover chemicals but they say it's the same.

I no it's not the same coz I have used both and the darker version is defo better than the lighter version
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: C-Thru. on July 20, 2016, 10:22:51 pm
I'm now buying it from a local motor factors £6. for 5 litres. Cheap as chips.
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on July 20, 2016, 10:27:53 pm
I don't know what the big fuss is about with viro-sol as I thought it was pants myself for what I wanted it for.
Where does it say it's safe if it gets on glass. Which is the same as ubik 2000 that I use to use and they confirmed both are not meant to be used on glass   ;D ;D

Look red to me  ::)roll http://www.cloverchem.co.uk/2013/uk/product_detail.asp?prod_code=%27326%27&range_sub=%2720%27

proxide  used on womans hair isn't safe but removes red wine from carpets in seconds if you know what your doing
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: robert mitchell on July 20, 2016, 10:40:20 pm
I'm now buying it from a local motor factors £6. for 5 litres. Cheap as chips.


Excellent website mate , love the video
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: C-Thru. on July 20, 2016, 10:50:35 pm
I'm now buying it from a local motor factors £6. for 5 litres. Cheap as chips.


Excellent website mate , love the video

Thanks Rob, not long finished the website, built it all myself so your comments are much appreciated.
Video also a DIY project.
Many thanks again.
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: slap bash on July 21, 2016, 09:36:28 am
I don't know what the big fuss is about with viro-sol as I thought it was pants myself for what I wanted it for.
Where does it say it's safe if it gets on glass. Which is the same as ubik 2000 that I use to use and they confirmed both are not meant to be used on glass   ;D ;D

Look red to me  ::)roll http://www.cloverchem.co.uk/2013/uk/product_detail.asp?prod_code=%27326%27&range_sub=%2720%27

Most people use it on PVC not glass.
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: Smurf on July 21, 2016, 12:13:33 pm
Oh silly me...anyway I found ubik works better if you want to turn white plastics yellow  ;D

Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: lal on July 21, 2016, 05:12:11 pm
I'm now buying it from a local motor factors £6. for 5 litres. Cheap as chips.


Excellent website mate , love the video

Thanks Rob, not long finished the website, built it all myself so your comments are much appreciated.
Video also a DIY project.
Many thanks again.

Great Website, i thought the video with the music track was brilliant & catchy.  :)

Lal
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: C-Thru. on July 22, 2016, 12:43:15 pm



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Great Website, i thought the video with the music track was brilliant & catchy.  :)

Lal
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Many thanks Lal, much appreciated, was a lot of work and many hours but I think the results are pretty good and bringing in the work too.
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: G Griffin on July 22, 2016, 07:32:24 pm
I don't know what the big fuss is about with viro-sol as I thought it was pants myself for what I wanted it for.
Where does it say it's safe if it gets on glass. Which is the same as ubik 2000 that I use to use and they confirmed both are not meant to be used on glass   ;D ;D

Look red to me  ::)roll http://www.cloverchem.co.uk/2013/uk/product_detail.asp?prod_code=%27326%27&range_sub=%2720%27

proxide  used on womans hair isn't safe but removes red wine from carpets in seconds if you know what your doing
But my missus went mad when I started scrubbing the carpet with her head when I knocked over a glass of shiraz.
I didn't know what I was doing though as I was on my third bottle.
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: slap bash on July 23, 2016, 08:22:39 am
The reason I ask this question is because the lighter colour Virosol would be exposed to light which would lighten the product if it contained a bleach and the more dark red  is kept in a  darker store. I have bought both dark red and a lighter orange colour.
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: Dave Willis on July 23, 2016, 06:24:18 pm
http://www.cloverchem.co.uk/2013/uk/sds_uk.asp?select1=..%2Fsds%2Fen%2F326_virosol_sds.pdf&I2.x=115&I2.y=29&I2=opensds

Lovely stuff
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: slap bash on July 24, 2016, 04:18:13 pm
Been down that rd smurf, asked clover chemicals if I could turn up to there site with my own ibc in the van and have it filled, there answer was there signed up to suppliers, ics being a local one to me.

As for the difference in colour ur right

Ics sell virosol as power sol as it's the lighter version, I have taken a bottle of virosol I got off mark South Wales guy who sells virosol in the darker version on eBay into ics and showed them the difference in colour
I even sent email to guy called James from clover chemicals but they say it's the same.

I no it's not the same coz I have used both and the darker version is defo better than the lighter version

  I agree  with what you have found and Clover is correct its the same when it`s manufactured by after standing in a shops warehouse and shelf it will deteriorate. Colour change is the giveaway. The light red never become darker does it. ITs the dark one becoming light from the bleach ingredients in the stuff. This would decrease the workability of the product.
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: Dave Willis on July 24, 2016, 08:38:48 pm
Where does it say it contains bleach?
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: slap bash on July 25, 2016, 10:46:22 pm
HYDROCHLORIC ACID its just a weak solution,

CHLORIC  is the give away.

n.
A clear, colorless, fuming, poisonous, highly acidic aqueous solution of hydrogen chloride, HCl, used as a chemical intermediate and in petroleum production, ore reduction, food processing, pickling, and metal cleaning. It is found in the stomach. Also called muriatic acid.
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: G Griffin on July 25, 2016, 10:57:33 pm
It is found in the stomach.
So, what does it taste like? 
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: slap bash on July 25, 2016, 11:06:37 pm
Its causes bad breath, but in a mild form.
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: G Griffin on July 25, 2016, 11:09:23 pm
Its causes bad breath, but in a mild form.
You've still not answered my question.
Unless you mean it tastes like mild.
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: Dave Willis on July 25, 2016, 11:22:37 pm
On the Virosol data sheet where does it say it contains bleach? The link is for acid wash you need to scroll down for virosol.

http://www.cloverchem.co.uk/2013/uk/sds_uk.asp?select1=..%2Fsds%2Fen%2F326_virosol_sds.pdf&I2.x=115&I2.y=29&I2=opensds
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: slap bash on July 26, 2016, 01:15:56 pm
Those are already compounded ingrediency .  Mate, I don`t need all this, take some virosol and put it on a white  PVC window sill in droplet and see it beach blotches. Explain how this happens . Even Bleach in the shop does not say contains bleach or hypo  so please mate stop been a PiTA. If you fell you know something better then tell us about it.  And  let`s hear a little of your wise advice. All you ever do split hair but really add very little to the going on`s  in this forum. Its obvious you don`t like been taught anything.  |So go your own way and find out all this yourself.  I am tired of trying to help others on this forum.
Title: Re: Viro -Sol buying
Post by: Dave Willis on July 26, 2016, 09:28:49 pm
What?

I use Virosol, if it contains bleach I'd like to know. You had too much sun again?