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Title: whats your best paid job
Post by: dougster on May 22, 2006, 09:38:33 pm
 I have recently started cleaning windows for a couple .and the house is massive, i do all tops using wfp and bottoms trad and it takes me 3hours max .and its my biggest earner in domestic work at £100.00' ;D',

So dont be shy , lets see who has the biggest domestic house priced clean
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: bobby on May 22, 2006, 09:43:51 pm
my dad used to clean castle howard you know[ brideshead revisited ] years ago don't know what he got for it or if he ever finished it  :o
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: JM123 on May 22, 2006, 09:46:41 pm
I've got a £65, £40 and a £48 all next to each other, they were all part of a country estate and it takes me 3hrs start to finish plus I usually get £60 for the £48 house.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: macleod on May 22, 2006, 09:50:47 pm
one days work
9am - 4pm
40 houses all 2-bed
ground & level 1 only
£10 each
£400

by far and away the best days pay
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Roy Harding on May 22, 2006, 10:09:33 pm
I do one large one every 2wks £245 per clean, she did say if I thought they needed doing weekly do them.

And one £300 every 12wks

Pluss quite a few around £120 - £150.


Roy
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: JM123 on May 23, 2006, 01:11:45 am
WHAT :o :o :o :o :o Are you cleaning a shopping centre that someone has converted into a home??
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Ian_Giles on May 23, 2006, 06:07:29 am
Just in case anyone thinks roy is telling porkies....he isn't!
I have seen his work lists, he has mostly residential and has some fantastic accounts, and all really well priced too.
Thats one guy who has really got it sorted just right.



Ian
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Trevor Knight on May 23, 2006, 06:37:19 am
Most expensive house - £270.00
Quickest Earner - £95 (20 mins WFP)
Biggest half day - £425 (Saxon Fields)
Biggest Day - £1100 (Burghclere Down)

Biggest dissapointment - I clean a now Premiership Football team's Chief Executive's house or should I say mansion and he battered me on the price. £45 should be at least £70. Hoping to get the Club and an intro to the players houses so ya never no????

Best job - College in Winchester - Dirty college girls, would clean it for free  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Grafters Cleaning Services on May 23, 2006, 08:12:26 am
1 rest home @ £100 (1 & half hours)
1 commercial office fronts @ £70 every mon morning (10 mins)
Jay
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Archy136 on May 23, 2006, 09:27:23 am
Biggest day - £600

10 houses(roughly averaged at £35 each)
Mental hospital - £47(15mins)
Office - £70(15mins)
Nursing home - £125(45mins)
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Moderator David@stives on May 23, 2006, 02:48:21 pm
My nexty door neighbors £500 ffor 5 mins.

I am not saying anyones lying but i can smell the bacon from here
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Sir Squeaky on May 23, 2006, 03:36:34 pm
My nexty door neighbors £500 ffor 5 mins.

I am not saying anyones lying but i can smell the bacon from here
Seconded.
I Just didn't want to be the one to say it.

I'm blamed for enough arguments as it is.... ;D
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: jakeandmia on May 23, 2006, 03:50:23 pm
Hi All

Biggest house...A 16th century house for £400 that takes 4hrs.Best office is £80 for 20 mins work.

wayne
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: S.C.S on May 23, 2006, 04:18:50 pm
 I clean Buckingham palace get paid £1500 then get to sit down with charles and the rest of the family for a cuppa then down to my mate tony just down the road at number 10 i do his for free cause ive earnt enough from elizabeth  ;D
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: joemilo on May 23, 2006, 04:22:26 pm
WE CLEAN A HOUSE FOR £200.00 WHICH TAKES 2 MEN LESS THAN AN HOUR.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: ducky on May 23, 2006, 04:28:45 pm
i am going to come down and start a business in england uz have some good jobs ther.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: daniel b on May 23, 2006, 04:50:10 pm
prem players mansion £15???
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Trevor Knight on May 23, 2006, 05:38:44 pm
I have been told he will intorduce me to the Maintainance Manager for the club, will be nice but won't hold my breath.

As for the players, well again, i will just have to wait and see, but ya never no!

Fingers crossed, Trev
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: windows_chepstow on May 23, 2006, 05:43:04 pm
Two £50 houses and my/our biggest day is anything over £200; but usually not much more than that.

Wor Lass only works part time now; from 9.30 am till 2.00 pm and normally has a Monday off to recover from her weekend running training; and there's not much I can do about that.  She threatens me with extra housework.

My biggest account is £120; a small leaded hotel; but takes under two-hours for one person with a WFP to do.  Doing the inside is a different matter though.

We've started from scratch three years ago, so I reckon that's pretty good going.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: JM123 on May 23, 2006, 06:34:46 pm
anyone want some fries and ketchup with their hotdog??
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: gsw on May 23, 2006, 06:52:00 pm
Most expensive house - £270.00
Quickest Earner - £95 (20 mins WFP)
Biggest half day - £425 (Saxon Fields)
Biggest Day - £1100 (Burghclere Down)


if i ever have work like this I'd be bu$%ered if i would be telling anyone about it, just remember what happened to the plumbing trade, the national press had a field day with plumbers earning £70,000 a year. now there are hundreds of plumbing schools and a huge amount of newly qualified/qualifying plumbers. its supply and demand at its most basic.

there are some great accounts out there undoubtedly but if we all keep shouting about them then there will definately be an influx of window cleaners and hence falling income for everyone! not something that any of us would like to see I'm sure!

so just for the record my biggest job is £15.00 and it takes me 1 hour and a half!
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: D woods on May 23, 2006, 06:59:36 pm
I am so poor I live in a hole by the side of the road
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Moderator David@stives on May 23, 2006, 07:05:47 pm
Now this guy can earn money but its true he does live in a hole

www.allcleanservices.co.uk

I fully concour with your statement
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Easyclean Windows on May 23, 2006, 07:18:06 pm
Biggest House 3 hours £200.00 biggest commercial 10 hours £100.00 per hour ..biggest contract.........just picked up 2000 houses per month @ £15.oo each
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Archy136 on May 23, 2006, 07:20:51 pm
I aint telling porkies. £600 is my best day... I've also got a couple of £400 days and about 3 £300 days. The rest are between £200 and £250. All WFP.

Unfortunately I've still some trad bungalows about 3 days worth which I struggle to £150 a day.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Johnboyfree on May 23, 2006, 07:24:06 pm
The money I earn must mean I work in a 3rd World Country!oh I do ,p.s.Tony lives at number 11,G.B. lives at number 10~they had to swap not enough bedrooms in number 10 for Tony.would any of the the above like to take me on for the day,I would do the work you can stay at home and we will go 50/50......I cant afford sauce let alone anything to put it on.... :( :( :(
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Moderator David@stives on May 23, 2006, 07:28:20 pm
Johnny its the same for 99.9% of us on here , the true big earners dont brag about it.

Dave
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Johnboyfree on May 23, 2006, 07:32:21 pm
Thank you Dave,thats cheered me up ;D ;D ;D.so any ideas on how I may become one of the 0.1 % ;D
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Moderator David@stives on May 23, 2006, 07:38:30 pm
dunno if one of my customers watched me clean there windows which took 1 hour then i asked for £100 i think they would thing i was winding them up.

I know the big boys in London are charging 20% less than that for 2 operatives for 1 hour. 

I think we all have snippets of big money but nothing like the prices quoted here.

I liase with successfull window cleaners all over the country and i can tell you these figures are just not normal.

So you high earners keep it to yourself before someone poaches it off you at a 1/4 of the price.

Dave
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: garry on May 23, 2006, 07:41:13 pm
1 rest home @ £100 (1 & half hours)
1 commercial office fronts @ £70 every mon morning (10 mins)
Jay
crikey im far to cheap then looking at these prices.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Sir Squeaky on May 23, 2006, 07:45:25 pm
Unfortunately I've still some trad bungalows about 3 days worth which I struggle to £150 a day.
What do you mean "unfortunatley"?
You won't do bungalows quicker with wfp, unless your really slow by hand. :-\

So you high earners keep it to yourself before someone poaches it off you at a 1/4 of the price.
Too right Dave.
Wish those "big earners" lived by me. ;D
1/4 price would still make me better off....
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: ducky on May 23, 2006, 07:45:58 pm
d.woods that looks a very nice company.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Archy136 on May 23, 2006, 09:59:44 pm
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would any of the the above like to take me on for the day,I would do the work you can stay at home and we will go 50/50......I cant afford sauce let alone anything to put it on....

I've already got someone doing a morning clean for me that I earn £150 a week from. I ll let you know if he ever gives up
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: ronaldo on May 23, 2006, 10:03:22 pm
I think theres alot of people on here that have gone CUCKOO CUCKOO!!!!   :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: ronaldo on May 23, 2006, 10:05:39 pm
dunno if one of my customers watched me clean there windows which took 1 hour then i asked for £100 i think they would thing i was winding them up.

I know the big boys in London are charging 20% less than that for 2 operatives for 1 hour. 

I think we all have snippets of big money but nothing like the prices quoted here.

I liase with successfull window cleaners all over the country and i can tell you these figures are just not normal.

So you high earners keep it to yourself before someone poaches it off you at a 1/4 of the price.

Dave

Too Right Dave!  People giving too much info out - their asking for a visit off the Taxman.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: poles apart on May 23, 2006, 10:08:44 pm
Own house -15 mins - paid in kind 8)
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Morph on May 23, 2006, 10:14:33 pm
YOU CAN'T EAT MONEY
YOU CAN ONLY WEAR ONE OUTFIT AND ONE PAIR OF SHOES

SOME OF YOU ARE GONNA DISCOVER THE REAL WORLD ONE DAY
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Archy136 on May 23, 2006, 10:18:19 pm
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I think theres alot of people on here that have gone CUCKOO CUCKOO!!!!

I must admit if it wasn't my own job I wouldn't believe it... but yes I do earn £150 aweek of it without lifting a finger... apart from posting the invoice!!
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Johnboyfree on May 23, 2006, 10:24:53 pm
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would any of the the above like to take me on for the day,I would do the work you can stay at home and we will go 50/50......I cant afford sauce let alone anything to put it on....

I've already got someone doing a morning clean for me that I earn £150 a week from. I ll let you know if he ever gives up
Thanks I look forward to youre phone call...
Pj...I think thats what Emelda Marcos was told but it never stopped her......and I have Discoverd the Real World...Coca~Cola beat me to it, ;D ;D I didnt like it anyway,too fast ....so now I just stay in my own world....and at my prices compared to these I think Im going to be Evicted ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: dougster on May 23, 2006, 10:59:48 pm
theres definetly some b---shi----s out there. or i am doing something wrong in this business. been cleaning windows for six years and all i ever seem to do is pay out, what i earn if. its not the tax man its fuel, or materials, or vehicle and  then when i have just a couple of few pennys left my missis asks for the rest , so i need to change the way this business is run ' :o',
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: jeff1 on May 23, 2006, 11:00:06 pm
Most expensive house - £270.00
Quickest Earner - £95 (20 mins WFP)
Biggest half day - £425 (Saxon Fields)
Biggest Day - £1100 (Burghclere Down)


if i ever have work like this I'd be bu$%ered if i would be telling anyone about it, just remember what happened to the plumbing trade, the national press had a field day with plumbers earning £70,000 a year. now there are hundreds of plumbing schools and a huge amount of newly qualified/qualifying plumbers. its supply and demand at its most basic.

there are some great accounts out there undoubtedly but if we all keep shouting about them then there will definately be an influx of window cleaners and hence falling income for everyone! not something that any of us would like to see I'm sure!

so just for the record my biggest job is £15.00 and it takes me 1 hour and a half!

Just for the record my biggest job is £10.00 and takes me a day, just to get there. :-X :-X
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: dougster on May 23, 2006, 11:05:00 pm
i bet you feel rewarded at the end of the day then
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: jeff1 on May 23, 2006, 11:16:16 pm
Yes, because at the end of the day, I spend my £10 on diesel
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: rosskesava on May 23, 2006, 11:19:01 pm
Our most profitable job is £2.

It is one shop window and takes under 30 seconds and is in between two other commercial jobs.

Over 4 years this bloke has paid us £400 for about 90 minutes work.

There is how much the job pays and profit and often they get confused. There is also dreams and reality.

£1100 for a day for one person? We're obviously doing something wrong.

Our highest paying job is £1000 and take 5 minutes.........

Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: jeff1 on May 23, 2006, 11:21:20 pm
 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X ;D
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Sir Squeaky on May 23, 2006, 11:32:56 pm
Our highest paying job is £1000 and take 5 minutes.........
You're underpricing Ross.

For 5 minutes I'd want more like £1200.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: mick40 on May 23, 2006, 11:53:43 pm
dunno about best priced job,but today i went to clean the windows of a hotel ive had for some time now,they are due this week.it takes about 4 hours and its 200 quid.when i went in to speak to the manager (i always let him know what day im gonna do it beforehand) he said"just leave it for now" i didnt mind that but the arrogance and tone of him really got my back up.So i told him to shove it and find someone else.spoke to the head chef of the hotel tonight and he says the staff hate his arrogance and the way he speaks to them.ive got bills to pay and cant let people like that decide when theyre gonna get paid.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: rosskesava on May 24, 2006, 12:25:57 am
For me - £200 for 4 hours work?

I'd put that job as one I'd call by each week (or phone up) just to ask and treat it as just money if the sh*t says to do it and ignore his attitude. Some jobs are just 'cash' and nothing more.

Having said that a few months back I got fed up with some lady in a company and told her what I thought of her in front of all her staff and that was a similar type of situation but for nothing like the money that job paid.

Quote
You're underpricing Ross.

Yeah I know but I'm cheap.....
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Ian_Giles on May 24, 2006, 06:12:12 am

You won't do bungalows quicker with wfp, unless your really slow by hand. :-\



Actually Rog you are quite wrong in that respect, tiny bungalows with only half a dozen windows or less I'll grant you its either quicker or about the same time, and there will always be accounts where access is awkward making it a waste of time to use WFP.
But I have a biggish bungalow, with conservatory, all simple, straight forward UPVC windows, all that you can just about reach without a ladder.

I charge the lady £14 for it, and I challenge you to come along and do it faster than I can do it WFP.

She is usually out and it is pretty private, no chance of being overlooked!

If you clean it faster than me, then I'll give you the money for it, if I'm quicker than you then I get the money.

Pic of bungalow conservatory attached!!

you keep saying you are as quick or quicker than WFP, care to put it to the test?

you are a quick trad window cleaner, but I would say I am only an ordinary speed WFP window cleaner.
Oh, I also have to pull out almost my entire 50m of hose to get around this one too and I'm prepared to time it from the moment I open the back door of the van ;)

Specifically to the topic though, my biggst day happens once every 8 weeks; 3 £60 offices, 1 £50 office and 1 £55 house, an £8 bungalow and a £25 pub.
8am start, 30 minutes for lunch and all done by 3-3:30pm

Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: JohnL on May 24, 2006, 07:19:08 am
You're underpricing Ross.

For 5 minutes I'd want more like £1200.


absolutely!  I would'nt start dreaming for that,  let alone get out of bed!   ;D   ;D   ;D

JohnL
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Trevor Knight on May 24, 2006, 07:19:50 am
There is how much the job pays and profit and often they get confused. There is also dreams and reality.

£1100 for a day for one person? We're obviously doing something wrong.

Our highest paying job is £1000 and take 5 minutes.........



Just to clarify with all the postings, the figures I have quoted are not PER Person obviously!!! I run a team of 6 w/c's and this these figures are based on 3/4 people. As for the tax man, well he is more than welcome to visit, just had his mate the VAT man last month. We have nothing to hide  ;)
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: dougster on May 24, 2006, 08:21:19 am
me to ask the wife she does the books ;D',
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Morph on May 24, 2006, 08:25:41 am
I am so poor I live in a hole by the side of the road

You can afford a hole?
They make roads where you are? :(
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Archy136 on May 24, 2006, 08:59:31 am
My £600 day is me on my own. Also I think its nearly time for a price rise.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: sunshine windows on May 24, 2006, 08:59:54 am
By Jesus!!!!!!!!!!

I can't wait to get my wfp set up and running. That's providing this bloody house move goes through pretty sharpish or i'll be skint and bankrupt, homeless and destitute within a couple of months worth of paying 3 mortgages.

Currently my biggest jobs are £25 every 2 months, or £20 monthly.

Quickest earner is a shop front. £4 for about 2 minutes work.

Best earning day since staring up last October is £185 all window work. Around £200 including some gutter cleans.

I am no doubt a slow trad cleaner so once up and running with wfp i reckon i should be making £200-£300 a day providing i can find the customers


Sunshine
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Morph on May 24, 2006, 09:35:33 am
All I can say is I must be living in a very low economy area.
Strange how you can be content with what you are earning till you find out others are getting much more for doing less!!

...........must try and remember what I was content with?
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Archy136 on May 24, 2006, 10:27:11 am
Its a freak day with freak prices. I must admit I do get embarassed with picking up the money. I normally do a couple of houses and then collect. The thing is its in one of the richest parts of the country. (Unfortunately I only have one day in that area) and they are awash with money. Most of them dont bat an eyelid as they are not living in the real world.

Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Newby on May 24, 2006, 10:45:35 am
Is window cleaning a JOB or a BUSINESS
 
To many window cleaners spend time running a business and get paid the same amount as joe round the corner in a normal job.

If thats you you need to sit down and look at what you are paying out and what you get at the end of it, if its just a wage like joe round the corner then well whats the point  ???
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Archy136 on May 24, 2006, 11:35:22 am
Newby. Couldn't agree more.

One lady I clean for always says that was £15 for 20 mins work. I 'm a nurse and only get £10 an hour.

All I ever reply is... you get holiday pay, sick pay, pension, Life insurance etc etc and thats not inc the time we spend running the business.

We should earn a good amount otherwise it s not worth it.

A friend of mine runs a flooring company with 2 men working for him. He says he has to aim for £1000  a week for each employee just to run the business.

And thats what we are doing, running a business. If you're happy with 20 000 a year then I dont see the point in this job.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Morph on May 24, 2006, 11:43:04 am
I ain't Joe
and I don't live round the corner!
If I did, I would be boasting like some of you, thinking how clever I am just because I live in a location of "the beautiful people, with nace howses" and Chelsea tractors!
Where I live Mr Average does actually drive a real tractor!
So maybe some of us are in fact more successful because we have remained solvent in 'depressed economy' areas!
Perhaps others wouldn't know how to survive!  You've had it too easy being able to charge £50+ ph!  thinking it's all because of your smart business acumen.

Maybe it's us that are the 'successful businesses' 8)

My best paid job?..................

I'm not telling you bunch of bigheads!

My best paid job is the one I'm doing!!
What's done is gone!  And the rest hasn't happened yet!
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Archy136 on May 24, 2006, 11:55:20 am
Are you one of those window cleaners that do it for the love of window cleaning. Get real. Dont get sucked in by those sweet old dears. They re loaded! Put your prices up!!
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: D woods on May 24, 2006, 12:02:40 pm
Hi Guys
Whenever the topic is about money it always ends in an argument, on this
forum (and in real life).

But I will add that I personally know of six window cleaners who earn over £1500 every single week.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Archy136 on May 24, 2006, 12:06:28 pm
I believe you.It definately possible. But you 'll probably get some 'smell the bacon' jokes on that one.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Morph on May 24, 2006, 12:09:26 pm
Are you one of those window cleaners that do it for the love of window cleaning. Get real. Dont get sucked in by those sweet old dears. They re loaded! Put your prices up!!

Nice!  Thanks for the advice.  I think I know how to manage my business, I've been at it since 1982!

You have no idea what my prices are, so no need to suggest I raise them.  In fact I may need to lower them!

It's only a matter of time before 'WATCHDOG', or some similar programme picks up on this forum..
Nick Campbell and his team will have a field day!
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: S.C.S on May 24, 2006, 01:16:29 pm
I love this forum  ;D
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: geoffreyspecht on May 24, 2006, 02:05:50 pm
what can earn depends on where u live and the type of work u r doing its as simple as that.for if u live in london u can earn over a £1000  a week even on domestic properties
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: geoffreyspecht on May 24, 2006, 02:08:44 pm
what u can earn depends on where u live and the type of work u r doing its as simple as that.for if u live in london u can earn over a £1000  a week even on domestic properties
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Moderator David@stives on May 24, 2006, 02:17:25 pm
Well £1500 a week is believable with the right work and a dedidated 40 hour week

That equates under £40 an hour which is more believable

Dave
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: sunshine windows on May 24, 2006, 02:41:23 pm
even though my biggest job is only £25 so far. I think i could realistically hit between £1000 to £1500 per week once i go wfp. Judging by what others have said on this forum regarding speed with wfp.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: sunshine windows on May 24, 2006, 02:45:57 pm
posted a bit too quick there.

The way i see it its this.

Average priced job £13. Three of these an hour = £39 per hour. A days solid work done 5 days a week =£1560

Sunshine
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Paul Coleman on May 24, 2006, 02:49:11 pm

Quote

And thats what we are doing, running a business. If you're happy with 20 000 a year then I dont see the point in this job.

I have been happy with that - and less in the past.  I went WFP at the start of the Winter and have been going through my learning curve.  In many respects, I have been marking time for the past few months making mistakes, learning, then making more mistakes and learning some more.  I now have the tools and a fair chunk of the knowhow to earn some serious money out there

The rest of my life starts today
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Sir Squeaky on May 24, 2006, 05:11:24 pm
even though my biggest job is only £25 so far. I think i could realistically hit between £1000 to £1500 per week once i go wfp. Judging by what others have said on this forum regarding speed with wfp.
I think you're going to get a shock.
It may speed you up a bit, maybe 20 or 30% on some jobs, not at all on others.
It's NOT going to multiply your turnover by 4 or 5 times! ;D

Even the most die-hard wfp flag wavers on here will tell you they've done up to 40% or so more work, which is good.
But NOT 500%. ::)

Like to see anyone do £1500 a week on my round.....

PJ:
You've had to put up with this guff about their prices half the day?
Glad I was at work mate! ;D
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Paul Coleman on May 24, 2006, 05:20:08 pm
even though my biggest job is only £25 so far. I think i could realistically hit between £1000 to £1500 per week once i go wfp. Judging by what others have said on this forum regarding speed with wfp.
I think you're going to get a shock.
It may speed you up a bit, maybe 20 or 30% on some jobs, not at all on others.
It's NOT going to multiply your turnover by 4 or 5 times! ;D

Even the most die-hard wfp flag wavers on here will tell you they've done up to 40% or so more work, which is good.
But NOT 500%. ::)

Like to see anyone do £1500 a week on my round.....

PJ:
You've had to put up with this guff about their prices half the day?
Glad I was at work mate! ;D

I think you hit the point there Squeaky when you added the bit "........on my round".  That has been a part of my problem so far.  My round was built up without WFP in mind.  Therefore, the work I do is not all best suited to WFP.  To earn the serious money, I feel that I need to adjust much of my my business so that the work I do is the most suitable for the equipment I have (van mount, trolley, max 36 foot pole - so far).  Once I have done that, I don't think that £1,000 in a week will be beyond me. I don't anticipate being at that point this year though.  I'm not saying that I could do that every week either because I'm nudging 50 and feel I would struggle to sustain the pace.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Morph on May 24, 2006, 05:21:29 pm
Thank goodness you're back grumpy Squeaky!

With all these boasters, where do the new guys think they're gonna get the work from!  It doesn't fall from the sky..Like the rain!

I've just got back.  While I was out a Portugese guy asked me if I had any extra work,  he said he heard we make loads with these poles!  I'm not kidding.
Hmmm.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Archy136 on May 24, 2006, 05:38:15 pm
Only joking about the 'Old Dears'. Always treat the '£5.50' Old Dear' the same as I would my best paying customer...with respect. That s a big part in getting good loyal customers.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Johnboyfree on May 24, 2006, 05:48:43 pm
Pj..I like a along the watch tower......I live in an expensive part of the world doing trad....but I am changing so that I may earn more,only thing is......will I enjoy it as much ;D or will the need for speed and money take over? :(I like talking to my customers,only did 2 today because of rain but took nearly 3 hrs with cups of tea etc.I think I must be simple ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Sir Squeaky on May 24, 2006, 05:51:07 pm
I like talking to my customers,only did 2 today because of rain but took nearly 3 hrs with cups of tea etc.I think I must be simple ;D ;D ;D
Ah, why not mate.
I do the same sometimes. :)

Armadillo.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Moderator David@stives on May 24, 2006, 05:53:56 pm
I think the extra you earn with wfp only goes to cancel out the extra expenses
Van
Extra fuel
WFP system
On going maintainance IE resin ,new brushes etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc  it never ends.

The only benefit i get is safety and that is all that interests me apart from the monotomy of ladders all day long ,it is such a pleasure just for me to wave by big pole about and squirt everything.

Ah wheres the skill gone.

Well i aint complaining

Dave
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Morph on May 24, 2006, 05:54:41 pm
Pj..I like a along the watch tower......I live in an expensive part of the world doing trad....but I am changing so that I may earn more,only thing is......will I enjoy it as much ;D or will the need for speed and money take over? :(I like talking to my customers,only did 2 today because of rain but took nearly 3 hrs with cups of tea etc.I think I must be simple ;D ;D ;D

You do it your way johnboy
You will earn more, but you don't have to be driven only by 'big bucks'.
Enjoy

And yes, same as Dave.safety first.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Sir Squeaky on May 24, 2006, 06:17:23 pm
I think the extra you earn with wfp only goes to cancel out the extra expenses
Van
Extra fuel
WFP system
On going maintainance IE resin ,new brushes etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc  it never ends.

The only benefit i get is safety and that is all that interests me apart from the monotomy of ladders all day long ,it is such a pleasure just for me to wave by big pole about and squirt everything.

Ah wheres the skill gone.

Well i aint complaining

Dave
Very honest post Dave.
Pretty much sums up my thoughts on it, but I'm not allowed to suggest that.... ::)
It is mainly a safety thing.

Refreshing around here with all the wfp boasting. :)
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Paul Coleman on May 24, 2006, 06:24:43 pm
I think the extra you earn with wfp only goes to cancel out the extra expenses
Van
Extra fuel
WFP system
On going maintainance IE resin ,new brushes etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc  it never ends.

The only benefit i get is safety and that is all that interests me apart from the monotomy of ladders all day long ,it is such a pleasure just for me to wave by big pole about and squirt everything.

Ah wheres the skill gone.

Well i aint complaining

Dave
Very honest post Dave.
Pretty much sums up my thoughts on it, but I'm not allowed to suggest that.... ::)
It is mainly a safety thing.

Refreshing around here with all the wfp boasting. :)


Squeaky.  I don't think anyone has ever denied the higher expenses associated with WFP.  So far, my experience has been very much as David suggests inasmuch that the any increase in turnover is offset (more so in my case) by higher outgoings.  It's only now that those big outlays have been made and I've had a few months practice that I can see some daylight to a higher profit margin. It's getting to that point that is the difficult bit.  I thought about throwing WFP in several times but I'm so glad I've persevered with it.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: dougster on May 24, 2006, 11:17:47 pm
This thread was aimed at finding out how much you charge for a single domestic job , not a days rate or a weeks rate
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Ian_Giles on May 24, 2006, 11:35:38 pm
If you are a relatively slow trad window cleaner then you should expect to boost your speed up considerably.
For instance; If you are taking over 30 minutes for a standard, all UPVC semi you can reasonably expect to double your speed easily.
If you are knocking out a semi in about 15 minutes trad then you should be able to do the same with WFP in about 10 minutes.
If you are one of the rare few that can do a semi with about 12 windows in 10 minutes then you will in all probability be very quick with WFP and will soon do the same property in 8 minutes or so.

today I did a health centre in a local village called Caldicot, I think it was called 'Grays Hill medical centre' (just in case any local guys read this and know the place)

70 windows, all sadolin painted, mostly 3 panes ber window, approx 25 upstairs windows.
First time clean (though they are cleaned regularly by a guy called George (he's on holiday and I'm caretaking a few of his accounts)
Bushes all over the place, it was peeing down with rain and I still completed it in 60 minutes. (plus 3 minutes sat in van during an absolute deluge :-\ )
Not that I'll be doing it next month as George is back at the end of the week, but if I did then I would be about 10 minutes faster again.
Were I doing it regularly for about 6 months I would be faster still.

On work of this size you are going to be way quicker than trad, but it is vital you keep your prices up, if you allow them to fall because you are so much quicker then you will be no better off.
Thew problem is as David has said, the running costs are significantly higher than trad.
You may not notice it straight away, from day to day the only thing that will stand out in your mind is that you are faster than before.
Then as time passes you find you are having to replace your poles, your battery, your battery charger, your filters, your membranes, your pump, your hoses  your brushes.
Or you will find you are upgrading regularly, adding this to your system, adding that.
If yo uwant your income to increase then you have to price work correctly.
You will be quicker, but that alone isn't enough, you should be able to squeeze another 40% of work into your round, but you MUST keep in mind that your overheads have also risen steeply by comparison to your trad days.

Dougster,

All topics morph and change slightly as they grow! It's just the nature of things :-\


Ian
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Morph on May 24, 2006, 11:44:03 pm
I'm sorry Ian, can you say all that again?
I didn't understand a word ;D
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: macc on May 24, 2006, 11:49:31 pm


Squeaky.  I don't think anyone has ever denied the higher expenses associated with WFP.  So far, my experience has been very much as David suggests inasmuch that the any increase in turnover is offset (more so in my case) by higher outgoings.  It's only now that those big outlays have been made and I've had a few months practice that I can see some daylight to a higher profit margin. It's getting to that point that is the difficult bit.  I thought about throwing WFP in several times but I'm so glad I've persevered with it.

Also, what about all them days lost cause of the weather. I would have been lucky to to have done one day this week if i was still trad, im up to date all the time with wfp. What it costs more than pays for itself.

macc
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: geoffreyspecht on May 25, 2006, 09:49:22 pm
cleaned windows for 25 years trad never lost a days work through the weather so u r talking a load of rubbish macc,moving over to wfed now though
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Archy136 on May 25, 2006, 11:44:14 pm
Where have you been living for the last 25 years... Saudi Arabia?
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: macc on May 26, 2006, 10:51:05 am
cleaned windows for 25 years trad never lost a days work through the weather so u r talking a load of rubbish macc,moving over to wfed now though

Where do you live Jeff, im moving, i live in Sussex & on Wednesday after only 6 houses i called it a day cause of the wind, so if ur trad you must lose days.  ???. Theres the odd day with wfp i think no way.  ::)

macc
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Morph on May 26, 2006, 11:10:21 am
Where have you been living for the last 25 years... Saudi Arabia?

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Johnboyfree on May 26, 2006, 04:25:57 pm
cleaned windows for 25 years trad never lost a days work through the weather so u r talking a load of rubbish macc,moving over to wfed now though

Where do you live Jeff, im moving, i live in Sussex & on Wednesday after only 6 houses i called it a day cause of the wind, so if ur trad you must lose days. ???. Theres the odd day with wfp i think no way. ::)

macc
I take it this was with a pole,I did 1 house and a bungalow trad in 3 hrs and gave up,after watching 3 men take over 45 mins.to put in 1 6ft fence panel,they gave up as well,as they said they dont mind the rain but couldnt compete with the wind,and as me there self employed on price work,according to them I earnt more than all three put together,at last I thought...there is someone who earns less than me ;D ;D ;D even the guy who asked me if I wanted fries with my coffee earnt more in 3 hrs than all 4 of us put together :( :(,but hopefully these days are few and far between ;)
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: LSB on May 27, 2006, 04:45:39 pm
i have some larger houses @ £40 to £50  and some offices in the hundreds but by and large i find i can earn more by doing more normal size houses next door to each other etc  all cleaned by traditional means ( except 2 offices which actually do pay quite well ! )
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Clear Vision on June 23, 2006, 11:35:01 pm
I'm a undercover tax investigator!

I will be knocking at some of your doors!!!!!!!

My wife works for trading standards.  Expect a visit from her too!!!!!!!!

No one should pay £100 for an hours work cleaning windows.

Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: carlm on June 24, 2006, 02:12:03 am
Own house -15 mins - paid in kind 8)
[/i could do with a couple of them  ;D ;D ;Dquote]
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Paul Coleman on June 24, 2006, 08:49:32 am
I'm a undercover tax investigator!

I will be knocking at some of your doors!!!!!!!

My wife works for trading standards.  Expect a visit from her too!!!!!!!!

No one should pay £100 for an hours work cleaning windows.



Yes I know.  It is pretty lousy money isn't it?  How about £200 then?
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: jeff1 on June 24, 2006, 08:55:26 am
Like my old mum used to say to me whenever I asked her a price, I always had the same answer. 2d  3 farthings and a big apple.  ;D ;D(only the older guy's will understand this one)
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Clear Vision on June 24, 2006, 10:22:20 am
Look everyone!!!!

I'm not saying you are lying but some of these prices are very hard to believe???????

There must be some very stupid & gulable people out there or you are all out & right con men  >:(

You should be ashamed of charging that kind of prices.

Most if not everyone would be happy with a 1/4 of that prices.

Come ashore boy & girls!!!
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: trevor perry on June 24, 2006, 01:14:02 pm
spot on if someone charged me these rates they would get there wfp pole shoved where the sun doesnt shine and therfore i wouldnt charge these rates to others
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: JohnL on June 24, 2006, 02:48:14 pm
  .  .  .  If you are knocking out a semi in about 15 minutes trad   .  .  .

how can you knock out a semi in 15 mins ???????

anyone doing that cannot be doing a good job, it may be adequate but not good!

JohnL
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Paul Coleman on June 24, 2006, 04:18:08 pm
Look everyone!!!!

I'm not saying you are lying but some of these prices are very hard to believe???????

There must be some very stupid & gulable people out there or you are all out & right con men  >:(

You should be ashamed of charging that kind of prices.

Most if not everyone would be happy with a 1/4 of that prices.

Come ashore boy & girls!!!

Well I was jesting about the £200 an hour  :) .
I can't speak for the others though.
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: twt on June 24, 2006, 04:27:42 pm
a semi in 15 minutes is posible to do to a high standard with frames and cill done, this is posible trad or wfp
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Sir Squeaky on June 24, 2006, 05:37:15 pm
  .  .  .  If you are knocking out a semi in about 15 minutes trad   .  .  .

how can you knock out a semi in 15 mins ???????

anyone doing that cannot be doing a good job, it may be adequate but not good!

JohnL
Seems that some people are rather slower than me.
If I'm in the right mood 15mins is no problem, maybe quicker.
Like to see you find a fault too. ;)

I'll only charge 6 or 7 quid for it though, unlike some of the rip offs around here who want £8-10 for a semi..... ::)


Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: S Ball on June 24, 2006, 07:50:07 pm
Trevor wot size tank u got its only a small van?do u fill y you clean or are thay all priced well?
Title: Re: whats your best paid job
Post by: Trevor Knight on June 26, 2006, 06:40:09 am
650litre tank although we don't fill to the top due to the weight.

Its a Peugot Expert and its good for about 500/550 litres