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Title: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: Lee Burbidge on June 20, 2016, 11:06:35 pm
We want to find out what the most popular trolley system is and why? We can start it of here and I have also attached a link to some survey questions too on the topic. :)

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/LXYM82X
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: Smurf on June 21, 2016, 12:09:51 am
"What trolley system do you use?"
One with wheels on as I find it's much easier to use that way than dragging it around  ;D ;D
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: JandS on June 21, 2016, 08:44:46 am
Just picked up the Pure Freedom 50 litre one yesterday plus the rest of my set up.
Might even post up a few pictures of it later...the trolley is a solid bit of engineering.
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: M & C Window Cleaning on June 21, 2016, 02:13:46 pm
Stripped down Freedom trolley.
5lpm backpack style pump.
7ah Battery (no battery box).
Pneumatic wheels.
Simple PWM controller.

This setup is approximately half the weight of the original.  Makes it a breeze to get in and out of my vehicle.
Everything on it can be swapped out in minutes including the pump.
It does need to be charged every night.
If I run it on full flow all day, I do need to change the battery during the afternoon. This takes about a minute. However, most of the time I'm running it at a much less flow rate than that so the battery last all day
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: CF Facilities on June 21, 2016, 05:29:53 pm
Water Genie from Cleaning warehouse Birmingham.
It is 4 years old now with original battery and controller. Been using it as a van mount for last 18 months as it gave me a hernia lifting in and out of van.
But my fault really as used to be lazy and lift out with full 25litre barrel on it ::)roll

Really good bit of kit though. 
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: dazmond on June 21, 2016, 06:23:50 pm
Just picked up the Pure Freedom 50 litre one yesterday plus the rest of my set up.
Might even post up a few pictures of it later...the trolley is a solid bit of engineering.

its heavy too.

my advice is leave it in the van hooked up to a tank and 100m of hose and use as a van mount.
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: robbo333 on June 21, 2016, 06:48:49 pm
Used to use a Pure Freedom 25 litre. Very good bit of kit. Got fed up with the weight so I stripped it down and used the parts to build a van mount (not the battery, it was knackered). Still going strong after 6 years. I think i've still got the bare trolley if anyone wants it?
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: Smurf on June 21, 2016, 07:27:18 pm
Used to use a Pure Freedom 25 litre. Very good bit of kit. Got fed up with the weight so I stripped it down and used the parts to build a van mount (not the battery, it was knackered). Still going strong after 6 years. I think i've still got the bare trolley if anyone wants it?

If you still have the bare pf trolley why not build a softwash trolley with it instead?
I'm also very suprised that suppliers the like pf or other brands with the types you put containers on have not twigged yet to put on a chemical pump instead so can be used for both softwashing and wfp window cleaning.
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: billy1 on June 21, 2016, 07:41:22 pm
I have made my own trolley(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1466534452_IMAG0125.jpg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1466534412_IMAG0126.jpg)
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: Smurf on June 21, 2016, 08:11:10 pm
Nice one billy  ;)
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: billy1 on June 21, 2016, 08:19:06 pm
Got everything off eBay it stands me at £110 and works a treat
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: Smurf on June 21, 2016, 08:36:30 pm
That's the first diy di on demand wfp trolley I've seen... Well done!
Just goes to show you don't need to spend a fortune either in building one . ;)   
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: sunshine windows on June 21, 2016, 09:08:13 pm
None, trolleys are for pikeys 😱😂
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: Mick Kent on June 21, 2016, 09:16:14 pm
pure freedom 50.
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: Smurf on June 21, 2016, 09:36:19 pm
None, trolleys are for pikeys

So Lance you have never used a backpack stuck on a lightweight compact sack truck as is the same thing surley?  ;D
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: tonycarr on June 21, 2016, 09:43:17 pm
25ltr pure freedom slightly modified to take a 35ltr container, use it 2 or 3 times a day for some niggly bits

was going to build one but this one came up on ebay complete for £120

tony
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: Smurf on June 21, 2016, 09:54:18 pm
My old pf 25 ltr trolley is still going strong used static in the van.
The only time I take it out now is for appying quats biocide to render etc as I prefer to premix 25ltr containers onsite as needed than having it fed from a large seprate chem tank and another hose from the van.
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: sunshine windows on June 21, 2016, 11:23:40 pm
Quote
So Lance you have never used a backpack stuck on a lightweight compact sack truck as is the same thing surley?  ;D

Nope, never.

The only time/job I've ever used a back pack on, was for rear access which wasn't possible unless through the house. I no longer do that one 😂😂😂

Really can't be arsed with jobs  that can't be done from the van.  Ad hoc + premium 💷💷💷
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: Smurf on June 21, 2016, 11:58:11 pm
I agree there is no real need to use a trolley/backpack for domestic window cleaning if you are in the position to pick the jobs you want to take on when using a van mount.
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: nathankaye on June 22, 2016, 09:53:31 am
When i was researching wfp before making the jump from trad to wfp, i thought the pf trolley was the best on market. I was going to start on trolley 25l system for upstairs only with it n trad downstairs. I was adviced that most upgrade to a van mount later so skip middle ground.  Im thankful i listened.
All the faff sorting watet drop off points n filling up or carrying trad around for downstairs, gives me a headache thinking about it.
After a yr now on wfp, never had need for a trolley. But ive just taken delivery of gardiners back pack for purpose of soft washing and thats a great piece of kit. As its cor soft washing im just carrying it (still young enough to do so).
Personally i think all the trolley systems are very expensive for what they are as these threads show. Many have adapted their trolley or built one up. The onky advantage is to buying one is that it looks more professional depending on your diy skills.
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: Soupy on June 22, 2016, 11:14:18 am
We do lots of houses, I've never used a trolley. I could see how it could potentially help at one or two windows across our entire round. Maybe 0.1 - 0.2%, not really worth it IMO.
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: JandS on June 22, 2016, 01:11:36 pm
The DIY one probably works well enough but it looks just like what it is.
Also looks like electrical parts are exposed to the weather.
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: Craig - CW Window Cleaning on June 28, 2016, 03:31:30 pm
I use my own diy 25ltr trolley on all my jobs, I used to be van mounted but working in the seaside town of St Ives there are so many jobs i cant get to with a van mount.
And its much safer to use as i take the trolley onto the property im working on, so less chance of a member of the public finding an excuse to fall over the hose. In the height of summer its madness to get around the town.
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: JSMC on June 28, 2016, 04:28:34 pm
I use my own diy 25ltr trolley on all my jobs, I used to be van mounted but working in the seaside town of St Ives there are so many jobs i cant get to with a van mount.
And its much safer to use as i take the trolley onto the property im working on, so less chance of a member of the public finding an excuse to fall over the hose. In the height of summer its madness to get around the town.

Makes sense for you to do that. I know a few guys who use backpacks all day n have no interest in van mounts.
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: M & C Window Cleaning on June 28, 2016, 06:10:51 pm
I use my own diy 25ltr trolley on all my jobs, I used to be van mounted but working in the seaside town of St Ives there are so many jobs i cant get to with a van mount.
And its much safer to use as i take the trolley onto the property im working on, so less chance of a member of the public finding an excuse to fall over the hose. In the height of summer its madness to get around the town.

These are among the reasons why I have never gone to a van mounted setup.  There are too many places on my round where a van and hose would be out of my line of sight for too long for my liking.
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: dai on June 30, 2016, 01:17:22 am
I love it, on my round I couldn't manage with a van mount, Hell putting a tank on the trailer would be no problem. but the trolley has served me well for 12 years.
Parking issues are becoming a real problem, no problem with my 50 litr trolley, it has 50 meters of hose on it's reel and twin pole carriers. A complete garden shed job, still working as well as ever and earned me well over 250k. Same surflow pump I started with, never a problem with it. I did change to the digital Varistream. a superb bit of kit.
Title: Re: What trolley system do you use?
Post by: combat1 on June 30, 2016, 04:28:46 pm
Much the same with me! I will probably get knocked down for this post but at the end of the day its whatever system suits you best.
I use a Gardiners backpack on an Einhell trolley, have used it for years.
Pull up, backpack out, fill backpack from tank in back of vehicle, about 40 seconds to fill with a bilge pump, round the back of the house, backpack halfway, my pole hose reaches the whole of the back. Clean back move to front, backpack halfway, clean front. back in car, away.
No tangled hoses, no reeling in and cheap. No complaints.
A full fill will do a regular clean with flow control set just over halfway.
Suits me anyway and I wouldn't change.