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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Slippy on May 30, 2016, 11:56:42 pm
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A friend has been doing gardening for a crazy old German lady and she allowed him to store his gardening stuff there. He then asked if he could store his window cleaning barrels and she said yes if she even understood what he meant. He has been storing his poles and resin, pump and 3 DI canistors. He was going to hers on a Saturday morning early when her friends would never go and run 100- 175 litres of her water through the DIs to barrels in his boot in his car. Recently, her friend saw him in the garage at an unusual time at night just pottering around and the told her she is now angry that he's treating the garage as his own. Is what he did wrong? Is using her water wrong or storing his stuff there wrong/theft? Pretty sure no one has seen him using water but there are DI canistors around he could say he filled up at customers places if asked.
He did lots of crap jobs for her that no one else would do and got paid rubbish money for it as he had her storage effectively as payment so he did it. She never uses garage, apart from water usage it's all fair isn't it?
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Hard to say without knowing more but it doesn't sound good.
I don't know what sort of trouble he could be in but I'd apologise and remove my stuff, asap.
Oh, and don't mention the war!
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ide just get the gear out and move on if he has a key then he shouldent be in any trouble as she had to of gave it to him so get gear out post key throu leter box job done no more crapy jobs win win lol
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Your mate could argue it was just reparations.
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This for real ?
Yes it's theft, using an excuse that you got paid rubbish money is not an excuse to do as you feel fit in someone else's property, you needed to have agreed a better price for the works carried out. Then got a written agreement about what you are doing in the garage, sneaking around at different times so you don't get seen shows that you know what you are doing is wrong
Are you paying for this water your taking ???
Sounds like you've taken advantage of an elderly, vulnerable person who kindly let. You store some equipment in the garage - not a nice way to pay them back is it
Darran
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This for real ?
Yes it's theft, using an excuse that you got paid rubbish money is not an excuse to do as you feel fit in someone else's property, you needed to have agreed a better price for the works carried out. Then got a written agreement about what you are doing in the garage, sneaking around at different times so you don't get seen shows that you know what you are doing is wrong
Are you paying for this water your taking ???
Sounds like you've taken advantage of an elderly, vulnerable person who kindly let. You store some equipment in the garage - not a nice way to pay them back is it
Darran
It's a "friend". ;D
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This for real ?
Yes it's theft, using an excuse that you got paid rubbish money is not an excuse to do as you feel fit in someone else's property, you needed to have agreed a better price for the works carried out. Then got a written agreement about what you are doing in the garage, sneaking around at different times so you don't get seen shows that you know what you are doing is wrong
Are you paying for this water your taking ???
Sounds like you've taken advantage of an elderly, vulnerable person who kindly let. You store some equipment in the garage - not a nice way to pay them back is it
Darran
It's a "friend". ;D
Lmao > ;D
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Make a swift brexit out of there. You've been a silly sausage.
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Make a swift brexit out of there. You've been a silly sausage.
+1 lol
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Most Germans are crazy. Especially the old female variety.
Giving your mate the benefit of the doubt I'd say it's just a misunderstanding. The best thing to do given all concerned is to have him pop back round to speak to her. Explain that it seems to have been a misunderstanding; to apologise (at which point she's likely to go off on one explaining about how hard its been since 'Alf' died and that she came over to this country at some unspecified time after the war, when the two of them got married), wish her well - its likely that at this point she'll realise she could be on to a goodun' and she'll start insinuating about the cost of water; even though she'll not be on a meter, your mate will have to stand there and take it, and maybe offer her something as reparation, "is twenty pounds okay Mrs Wurst?". She'll reply with an exaggerated huff under her breath. Its at this point for his own benefits that he leaves, pronto, because she'll now be realising that she's on to one here who has a conscience and she needs her drains looking at, and her tap washer in the bathroom and the grass needs cutting.
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A friend has been doing gardening for a crazy old German lady and she allowed him to store his gardening stuff there. He then asked if he could store his window cleaning barrels and she said yes if she even understood what he meant. He has been storing his poles and resin, pump and 3 DI canistors. He was going to hers on a Saturday morning early when her friends would never go and run 100- 175 litres of her water through the DIs to barrels in his boot in his car. Recently, her friend saw him in the garage at an unusual time at night just pottering around and the told her she is now angry that he's treating the garage as his own. Is what he did wrong? Is using her water wrong or storing his stuff there wrong/theft? Pretty sure no one has seen him using water but there are DI canistors around he could say he filled up at customers places if asked.
He did lots of crap jobs for her that no one else would do and got paid rubbish money for it as he had her storage effectively as payment so he did it. She never uses garage, apart from water usage it's all fair isn't it?
Tell 'your friend ' it's someone else's house , whether the lady uses a particular room in her house is none of 'his' business.
Your 'friend ' asked to store gardening equipment there first - why???
Then window cleaning equipment- why????
Then started the production of pure water in her garage....
Has your 'friend ' not got a place of his own??? does he sleep outside her house in his car???
Then 'potters around ' early in the morning when no one is there or late at night....
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Woop woop , it's the sound of the police . Woop woop....
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Slippy you crack me up ;D ;D
Makes me wonder who the real crazy person is as I'm thinking it's not the lady.
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I reckon you have burnt your bridges there and should just move on.
Yes , you are in the wrong and you should have been up front about your intentions in first place.
You could perhaps have asked to rent the garage and to include use of water, not surprised she's now cross about it.
What sort of trouble could you be in ?
Well I doubt it will come to anything other than the good faith and trust you have now lost with this lady but I'm sure she would be within her rights to contact the police about your behavior. Technically you could be accused of trespass and theft of her water supply without her consent.
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Maybe you and your friend should go into business together?
Want to get a van at some point. Although girlfriend has car and will mostly use that would be good to have possibility of taking her and baby in van. What is good van for two adults and a baby? Also as I do some gardening is it possible to get a mower and hedgecutter etc in same van with tank?
Is it worth getting a 250 litre tank and then throwing it on bank seat of car then pumping water out of a tank into it and off you go? Would you just need a pump hose reel and battery? Also, for storage, is it worth renting a garage? I currently buy water and use barrels and a trolley; bit of a part time job. But if I get more serious storage might be needed.
Would it be better to get a flat with a garage or a flat or hire one for storage? How much would a place to hire cost or and how would you find one?
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Maybe you and your friend should go into business together?
Want to get a van at some point. Although girlfriend has car and will mostly use that would be good to have possibility of taking her and baby in van. What is good van for two adults and a baby? Also as I do some gardening is it possible to get a mower and hedgecutter etc in same van with tank?
Is it worth getting a 250 litre tank and then throwing it on bank seat of car then pumping water out of a tank into it and off you go? Would you just need a pump hose reel and battery? Also, for storage, is it worth renting a garage? I currently buy water and use barrels and a trolley; bit of a part time job. But if I get more serious storage might be needed.
Would it be better to get a flat with a garage or a flat or hire one for storage? How much would a place to hire cost or and how would you find one?
This made me lol ;D
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Maybe you and your friend should go into business together?
Want to get a van at some point. Although girlfriend has car and will mostly use that would be good to have possibility of taking her and baby in van. What is good van for two adults and a baby? Also as I do some gardening is it possible to get a mower and hedgecutter etc in same van with tank?
Is it worth getting a 250 litre tank and then throwing it on bank seat of car then pumping water out of a tank into it and off you go? Would you just need a pump hose reel and battery? Also, for storage, is it worth renting a garage? I currently buy water and use barrels and a trolley; bit of a part time job. But if I get more serious storage might be needed.
Would it be better to get a flat with a garage or a flat or hire one for storage? How much would a place to hire cost or and how would you find one?
Haha thought as much
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I reckon you have burnt your bridges there and should just move on.
Yes , you are in the wrong and you should have been up front about your intentions in first place.
You could perhaps have asked to rent the garage and to include use of water, not surprised she's now cross about it.
What sort of trouble could you be in ?
Well I doubt it will come to anything other than the good faith and trust you have now lost with this lady but I'm sure she would be within her rights to contact the police about your behavior. Technically you could be accused of trespass and theft of her water supply without her consent.
No one has seen any pure water being made. Although, it's obvious from the equipment (DIs) it has. But no evidence. If intervied could say used DIs in car with customers water or at own place. Just confess to storage. she gave a key and allowed it so how could you get in trouble! The lady said he could use the garage and put barrels there. (She is mental and probably forgot she said it mind). Best to move all cleaning gear out of flat late tonight? When none of her old dear friends are there. Leave gardening stuff. Might still have a job doing that. Will go round and see her tomorrow.
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I reckon you have burnt your bridges there and should just move on.
Yes , you are in the wrong and you should have been up front about your intentions in first place.
You could perhaps have asked to rent the garage and to include use of water, not surprised she's now cross about it.
What sort of trouble could you be in ?
Well I doubt it will come to anything other than the good faith and trust you have now lost with this lady but I'm sure she would be within her rights to contact the police about your behavior. Technically you could be accused of trespass and theft of her water supply without her consent.
No one has seen any pure water being made. Although, it's obvious from the equipment (DIs) it has. But no evidence. If intervied could say used DIs in car with customers water or at own place. Just confess to storage. she gave a key and allowed it so how could you get in trouble! The lady said he could use the garage and put barrels there. (She is mental and probably forgot she said it mind). Best to move all cleaning gear out of flat late tonight? When none of her old dear friends are there. Leave gardening stuff. Might still have a job doing that. Will go round and see her tomorrow.
So it is you and not your mate??? ;D lol
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Slippy ( by name slippy by nature :D ) you are not doing yourself any favors.
Things come back on you as you are finding out to your cost.
You say she's a bit mad, her dear old friends are looking out for her by the sounds of things. Then what does that make you ? an opportunist taking advantage ( possibly ).
Whether anybody has seen you producing pure water there or not isn't the issue here. Do you really want to be working under the radar that way, knowing what you are doing is without her consent or worried about prying eyes ?
I don't mean to sound harsh and any digs are meant with humor, but do things right.
I've been in a similar situation re getting a supply of water in order to work. Its difficult yes but not impossible. I had to run an ro out the window of my first floor flat to my street parked van for 7 + years. The only reason I don't anymore is because parking has become increasingly difficult and began dictating my working day and free time. I sourced a supply of ro water from another windy that I pay for.
Can you not do the same ?
Trying to save a few quid or obtaining water fraudulently is only going to end badly and leave you high and dry ( at the least ) without the means of being able to work.
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Slippy is your surname Tricky lol
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Good grief - PAY for water, my god what next, give up the dole money ??
Shame on you 😂
Darran
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Go late at night and empty the garage out...then see if you can empty the living room and her jewellery box...make sure you check any loose floorboards as well!!
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Slippy ( by name slippy by nature :D ) you are not doing yourself any favors.
Things come back on you as you are finding out to your cost.
You say she's a bit mad, her dear old friends are looking out for her by the sounds of things. Then what does that make you ? an opportunist taking advantage ( possibly ).
Whether anybody has seen you producing pure water there or not isn't the issue here. Do you really want to be working under the radar that way, knowing what you are doing is without her consent or worried about prying eyes ?
I don't mean to sound harsh and any digs are meant with humor, but do things right.
I've been in a similar situation re getting a supply of water in order to work. Its difficult yes but not impossible. I had to run an ro out the window of my first floor flat to my street parked van for 7 + years. The only reason I don't anymore is because parking has become increasingly difficult and began dictating my working day and free time. I sourced a supply of ro water from another windy that I pay for.
Can you not do the same ?
Trying to save a few quid or obtaining water fraudulently is only going to end badly and leave you high and dry ( at the least ) without the means of being able to work.
How did you run an RO from kitchen? Was it in the kitchen. I guess a double DI would be quicker. Did you have any problems with neighbours. Something I am thinking of.
Anyway, apparently the German lady has decided that the deal is to water her plants every two days for free in payment for free storage of so many gardening and window cleaning equipment. The subject of using her water or re-charging pumps with her electric socket weren't mentioned. Reluctant to ask it. But to be honest if you struck up a deal of using her water for free gardening or a payment it could be very beneficial. How would you approach the subject with her? Or maybe see if it can be worked out from own flat first then if that fails ask.
As she's completely bonkers it might have to be negotiated with her various old biddy 'friends' 2 who are just trying to get her £600,000 house when she dies off her.
Oh yeah and she met Hitler in person when she was a kid. No lie.
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Cant understand why he was there at a stupid time but the police have better things to do than chase someone up over the issue you have posted, once they have found out she gave permission to use the she'd they will say she's wasting there time. Like everyone says move the stuff out
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Slippy ( by name slippy by nature :D ) you are not doing yourself any favors.
Things come back on you as you are finding out to your cost.
You say she's a bit mad, her dear old friends are looking out for her by the sounds of things. Then what does that make you ? an opportunist taking advantage ( possibly ).
Whether anybody has seen you producing pure water there or not isn't the issue here. Do you really want to be working under the radar that way, knowing what you are doing is without her consent or worried about prying eyes ?
I don't mean to sound harsh and any digs are meant with humor, but do things right.
I've been in a similar situation re getting a supply of water in order to work. Its difficult yes but not impossible. I had to run an ro out the window of my first floor flat to my street parked van for 7 + years. The only reason I don't anymore is because parking has become increasingly difficult and began dictating my working day and free time. I sourced a supply of ro water from another windy that I pay for.
Can you not do the same ?
Trying to save a few quid or obtaining water fraudulently is only going to end badly and leave you high and dry ( at the least ) without the means of being able to work.
How did you run an RO from kitchen? Was it in the kitchen. I guess a double DI would be quicker. Did you have any problems with neighbours. Something I am thinking of.
Anyway, apparently the German lady has decided that the deal is to water her plants every two days for free in payment for free storage of so many gardening and window cleaning equipment. The subject of using her wateror re-charging pumps with her electric socket weren't mentioned. Reluctant to ask it. But to be honest if you struck up a deal of using her water for free gardening or a payment it could be very beneficial. How would you approach the subject with her? Or maybe see if it can be worked out from own flat first then if that fails ask.
As she's completely bonkers it might have to be negotiated with her various old biddy 'friends' 2 who are just trying to get her £600,000 house when she dies off her.
Oh yeah and she met Hitler in person when she was a kid. No lie.
So not only water but using the electric as well .... It just gets better.... 😡
Darran
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Shame on you slippy for taking advantage of an old lady like that. If that was my elderly mother I would be mad as hell. It would not be the fuzz you would need to be worried about. Best you collect your stuff before it disappears as the old lady sounds to me to be suffering from dementia. Now that would be funny to see your face if the old dear cleared her garage out and gave all your stuff away. ;D ;D
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Slippy, don't mention TDS meters to ze German. If she knows the water in them barrels are pure, you're done for pal!
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Slippy ( by name slippy by nature :D ) you are not doing yourself any favors.
Things come back on you as you are finding out to your cost.
You say she's a bit mad, her dear old friends are looking out for her by the sounds of things. Then what does that make you ? an opportunist taking advantage ( possibly ).
Whether anybody has seen you producing pure water there or not isn't the issue here. Do you really want to be working under the radar that way, knowing what you are doing is without her consent or worried about prying eyes ?
I don't mean to sound harsh and any digs are meant with humor, but do things right.
I've been in a similar situation re getting a supply of water in order to work. Its difficult yes but not impossible. I had to run an ro out the window of my first floor flat to my street parked van for 7 + years. The only reason I don't anymore is because parking has become increasingly difficult and began dictating my working day and free time. I sourced a supply of ro water from another windy that I pay for.
Can you not do the same ?
Trying to save a few quid or obtaining water fraudulently is only going to end badly and leave you high and dry ( at the least ) without the means of being able to work.
How did you run an RO from kitchen? Was it in the kitchen. I guess a double DI would be quicker. Did you have any problems with neighbours. Something I am thinking of.
Anyway, apparently the German lady has decided that the deal is to water her plants every two days for free in payment for free storage of so many gardening and window cleaning equipment. The subject of using her water or re-charging pumps with her electric socket weren't mentioned. Reluctant to ask it. But to be honest if you struck up a deal of using her water for free gardening or a payment it could be very beneficial. How would you approach the subject with her? Or maybe see if it can be worked out from own flat first then if that fails ask.
As she's completely bonkers it might have to be negotiated with her various old biddy 'friends' 2 who are just trying to get her £600,000 house when she dies off her.
Oh yeah and she met Hitler in person when she was a kid. No lie.
I put a self tapping washing machine tap on to the mains supply in my hallway where it enters my flat ( after the stop cock ! ).
Mounted the ro high on the wall so it was not in the way.
The waste hose went out the back and in to the drain down pipe, the pure went under floor boards and out the bay window at the front. When I needed to produce pure I'd connect a reel of hose to it and lower it down to street level and connect up to a hose outlet at back of my van. My neighbours were ok with it. I always cleaned their windows when I did my own to keep them sweet. ;)
You could have offered to rent the space off her, to include water and power, money talks. She owes you nothing, you on the other hand ........ :-\ ::)roll
She's elderly, could drop down dead tomorrow. Hardly a beneficial situation to be in. Sort something permanent out for yourself that you have full control over.
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Slippy you give eastern Europeans a GOOD name. My poor old mum and dad are dead now if that was my mum I'd introduce you to the business end of a coal hammer.
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Slippy ( by name slippy by nature :D ) you are not doing yourself any favors.
Things come back on you as you are finding out to your cost.
You say she's a bit mad, her dear old friends are looking out for her by the sounds of things. Then what does that make you ? an opportunist taking advantage ( possibly ).
Whether anybody has seen you producing pure water there or not isn't the issue here. Do you really want to be working under the radar that way, knowing what you are doing is without her consent or worried about prying eyes ?
I don't mean to sound harsh and any digs are meant with humor, but do things right.
I've been in a similar situation re getting a supply of water in order to work. Its difficult yes but not impossible. I had to run an ro out the window of my first floor flat to my street parked van for 7 + years. The only reason I don't anymore is because parking has become increasingly difficult and began dictating my working day and free time. I sourced a supply of ro water from another windy that I pay for.
Can you not do the same ?
Trying to save a few quid or obtaining water fraudulently is only going to end badly and leave you high and dry ( at the least ) without the means of being able to work.
How did you run an RO from kitchen? Was it in the kitchen. I guess a double DI would be quicker. Did you have any problems with neighbours. Something I am thinking of.
Anyway, apparently the German lady has decided that the deal is to water her plants every two days for free in payment for free storage of so many gardening and window cleaning equipment. The subject of using her water or re-charging pumps with her electric socket weren't mentioned. Reluctant to ask it. But to be honest if you struck up a deal of using her water for free gardening or a payment it could be very beneficial. How would you approach the subject with her? Or maybe see if it can be worked out from own flat first then if that fails ask.
As she's completely bonkers it might have to be negotiated with her various old biddy 'friends' 2 who are just trying to get her £600,000 house when she dies off her.
Oh yeah and she met Hitler in person when she was a kid. No lie.
I put a self tapping washing machine tap on to the mains supply in my hallway where it enters my flat ( after the stop cock ! ).
Mounted the ro high on the wall so it was not in the way.
The waste hose went out the back and in to the drain down pipe, the pure went under floor boards and out the bay window at the front. When I needed to produce pure I'd connect a reel of hose to it and lower it down to street level and connect up to a hose outlet at back of my van. My neighbours were ok with it. I always cleaned their windows when I did my own to keep them sweet. ;)
You could have offered to rent the space off her, to include water and power, money talks. She owes you nothing, you on the other hand ........ :-\ ::)roll
She's elderly, could drop down dead tomorrow. Hardly a beneficial situation to be in. Sort something permanent out for yourself that you have full control over.
How would you ask this and how would you negotiate how much water would be used? Is it possible to get a meter put on the area you use in garage?
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I think it's totally unreasonable to keep trying to pursue this myself taking advantage as you have already mentioned the old lady got angry as you are using the garage as your own already.
It doesn’t matter what sort of arrangement you try to make as it’s obvious to me that she and the neighbours looking out for her don’t really want you there. Can’t you see this?
Now you are banging on about the possibility of putting in a separate water metre. Get a grip man as you sound like the bonkers one to me.
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I think it's totally unreasonable to keep trying to pursue this myself taking advantage as you have already mentioned the old lady got angry as you are using the garage as your own already.
It doesn’t matter what sort of arrangement you try to make as it’s obvious to me that she and the neighbours looking out for her don’t really want you there. Can’t you see this?
Now you are banging on about the possibility of putting in a separate water metre. Get a grip man as you sound like the bonkers one to me.
Well said, I find this story just ridiculous
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I can't belive this site welcomes someone that openly admits to what is paramount to stealing from an old age pensioner and who seems intent on pressurising her into continuing to use her garage. If I had you real name and address I'd be banging on my local old bill shop to pay you a visit. Don't care who this offends your a low life. And any one that finds it OK or funny should be ashamed of themselves.
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Are you the same slippy who posted his WFP car setup on another forum, with the hose hanging out the back window? In fact it has to be you. I'm sorry to say, but I think you have special needs. Get some help fella.
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I can't belive this site welcomes someone that openly admits to what is paramount to stealing from an old age pensioner and who seems intent on pressurising her into continuing to use her garage. If I had you real name and address I'd be banging on my local old bill shop to pay you a visit. Don't care who this offends your a low life. And any one that finds it OK or funny should be ashamed of themselves.
Have to agree. Everyone needs to puss ee footing around this.
Mate your bang out of line. You sound worse than del boy! How old are you and how desperate are you?
In past when my van died when i did trad cleaning. I kept my equipment at a customers house. Never once did i ask for a key. I would txt or call to comfirm im calling in morning and clean their windows for free as in long run she saved me alot of money. You talk of poor pay. Grow up man!!! She allowed u to store things thats all. How much money did this save you, you tight arsed muppet!!
Grow up, get organised and leave this old dear alone. Cause if she was my relation, we'd be having more than words
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Enough is enough guys, the forum is for the benefit of all regarding your cleaning businesses.
Let's keep it to that before it get's out of hand.