Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: H MAN on May 14, 2016, 07:18:34 am
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Same idea as wagtail. My first wagtail haf the microfibrr attached with the velcro and it came loose in no time. I ended up having a spare set on me at all times whuch i glued on myself. The newer ones are held on by a plastic clip. Much better but still a little fragile.
I find the wagtail pivot action wears very quickly n you are adjusting it quickly.
I guess they wont want to make them harf wearing as saled would go down.
Still a handy tool when working though.
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A new swivel handle is about to be launched very soon too which may well blow wagtails handles out of the water.
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A new swivle handle is about to be launched very soon too which may well blow wagtails handles out of the water.
Believe Moerman already have.
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As far as I'm aware not yet H-Man...I believe it will be available in stockist around July time.
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As far as I'm aware not yet H-Man...I believe it will be available in stockist around July time.
It was shown at the interclean show this week. ::)roll
You are right it come out when you said. ;D
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Looks good don't it ;D
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A new swivel handle is about to be launched very soon too which may well blow wagtails handles out of the water.
Will customers have to modify them so they work properly? ::)roll
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A new swivel handle is about to be launched very soon too which may well blow wagtails handles out of the water.
Will customers have to modify them so they work properly? ::)roll
Yes you have to get it to suit your style BUT IS IT AS GOOD AS A WAGTAIL ::)roll :D
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Pretty sure they don't drink coffee.
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Patent infringement if you ask me it's a wagtail in liquidator form.
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The pivot is different from Wagtail, no patent issues since I believe even the Wagtail tech patents have expired ( so I'm told) The new Moerman product works in three components, first the Liquidator 2.0 channel, the F*LIQ pad and the handle that is called the Excellerator. This has been designed primary with pole use in mind with the Excellerator allowing pivotal movement and fixed with multiple fixed settings. It was also demonstrated to me at the ISSA as a good hand tool too. I will be putting a Booth Talk film together on it next week.
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I've got a F*arked liquidator in the garage - bloody rubbish!
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I've got a F*arked liquidator in the garage - bloody rubbish!
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The pivot is different from Wagtail, no patent issues since I believe even the Wagtail tech patents have expired ( so I'm told) The new Moerman product works in three components, first the Liquidator 2.0 channel, the F*LIQ pad and the handle that is called the Excellerator. This has been designed primary with pole use in mind with the Excellerator allowing pivotal movement and fixed with multiple fixed settings. It was also demonstrated to me at the ISSA as a good hand tool too. I will be putting a Booth Talk film together on it next week.
In fact there are other ways of having a swivel or in this case pivoting connections without infringing a patent.
Just surprized no one has not done this commercially until now.
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A little preview of the squeegee by Moerman I should get it all finished in the next couple of days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-7trfEt-Hk
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We use a pad holder it clips on any channel can make it to go over or under the channel.
The plus is you do not have to unclip to change pads.
THIS IS NOT MIND SET UP note the connection on the squeegee.
THE CHANNELS A SORBO.
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Here's Eric Gilliand did the same with the connection.
Just saying it's out there are probably more people that have done this also.
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Also got remember it has all been seen in the public domain and can not be patented.
Unless you have a unique swivel connection that works differently to what’s out there at the moment.
Then this may be patentable.
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"Prior Art" H Man? ;D
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We use a pad holder it clips on any channel can make it to go over or under the channel.
The plus is you do not have to unclip to change pads.
THIS IS NOT MIND SET UP note the connection on the squeegee.
THE CHANNELS A SORBO.
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/12593509_1089352727753088_7378294754528204928_o.jpg)
Here's Eric Gilliand did the same with the connection.
Just saying it's out there are probably more people that have done this also.
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Also got remember it has all been seen in the public domain and can not be patented.
Unless you have a unique swivel connection that works differently to what’s out there at the moment.
Then this may be patentable.
Love this info :)
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And those scrubbing pad holder.
We had made them in June 2013.
Here's video of the first ones we did.
As you will see we have attach the pad holder onto the clip that can go on just about any squeegee channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO5pPPlvAhg
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So, what are you trying to say?
Are you saying Moermon copied you?
Are you promoting Moermon
Are you saying Moermon copied Wagtail
Are you saying you copied Wagtail
or are you driving hits to your youtube account?
I'm confused as always.
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So, what are you trying to say?
Are you saying Moermon copied you?
Are you promoting Moermon
Are you saying Moermon copied Wagtail
Are you saying you copied Wagtail
or are you driving hits to your youtube account?
I'm confused as always.
Only showing the way we did it for the people that might want to try it.
And as you always say it all been done before.
But you never say how.
Why??
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Why? because I can't work out your thinking. I can't tell if you are pointing out Moermons new product for anyone who wants one or whether you don't think they should market it because it's a wagtail copy or whether you think neither of them should be on the market because you invented your own before them. I've never seen a single post of yours that doesn't include a link to your youtube account so maybe that's why you post on here.
I just don't understand what your getting at.
I don't understand why you pick on a product, march down to the hardware store buy some bits and pieces then copy it? Why not just buy one ready made in the first place?
See what I mean? Same post I put up before, just a bit longer.
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Why? because I can't work out your thinking. I can't tell if you are pointing out Moermons new product for anyone who wants one or whether you don't think they should market it because it's a wagtail copy or whether you think neither of them should be on the market because you invented your own before them. I've never seen a single post of yours that doesn't include a link to your youtube account so maybe that's why you post on here.
I just don't understand what your getting at.
I don't understand why you pick on a product, march down to the hardware store buy some bits and pieces then copy it? Why not just buy one ready made in the first place?
See what I mean? Same post I put up before, just a bit longer.
OK Please follow what I’m saying.
First regarding Wagtail there concept is good with the pivoting swivel action.
Got my first Wagtail 2002 and do not know any different to use pivot swivel squeegees and scrubbers.
And since then been doing modifications on it so to make it easier for me personally to use.
In May 2011 decided to start putting up the ideas had to relating not only to improving the squeegee.
But help other people with similar problems with this particular squeegee.
Also videos to show people that may want to know how they can use them as well.
To say that I obsessed would be an under statement.
As practically every video relates to this type of swivel squeegee.
And yes I’m directing people to the channel so they can see different ways other then what the big manufactures are doing.
So not picking on any particular manufacture other then to improve there product.
Know there are many other people out there that do the same and hopefully if they see some of the ideas we have.
It will inspirer them to have a better ideas.
Know there are people they can use them with no problems this is all good and well.
But don’t you think to be fair that the people that do have issues with using these swivel/pivotal squeegee.
That they have an alterative way of use these squeegees??
Give them a better understanding of how it works??
Hope this might explain why we do this. ;D
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I just don't understand what your getting at.
Do you now understand what it is all about? :)