Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: STEVE-UK on May 05, 2016, 09:23:16 pm
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My mum who lives down the road from me got one of your posters through her letter box, We haven't got one as yet, will be interested to see if one turns up!
I must say, Its a little on the big side, Bought back memories of when we used to use maps instead of Sat Nav ;D
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My mum who lives down the road from me got one of your posters through her letter box, We haven't got one as yet, will be interested to see if one turns up!
I must say, Its a little on the big side, Bought back memories of when we used to use maps instead of Sat Nav ;D
A3 maybe a wee bit over the top methinks ;D
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was an interesting read ;D
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seriously...hope it works out for you Lee, I know you have invested a lot into this venture
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I was just jesting but looking at the size of it in the pic it's really A3, :o
At least the old folk can read the big print ;D ;D
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I was just jesting but looking at the size of it in the pic it's really A3, :o
At least the old folk can read the big print ;D ;D
is it really A3 size? that's huge!!
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I'm glad you like it! Haha!
Yes it really is A3!
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Lee, when are we getting a picture of the fleet?
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I'm glad you like it! Haha!
Yes it really is A3!
Are these the same mailers you showed me some 3 years ago when I popped into your offices with Perry Tait? They seemed pretty big back then Lee :)
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Looks like a newspaper!
Pretty clever marketing though, folks are more likely to have a read as they'd think it probably contains important info.
The 'bigger' companies are in full flow with their advertising at the moment. Round my way almost every garden gate has a bin/window cleaning company banner tied to it.
Not sure if that's really clever advertising or plain stupid. Imagine the elderly peering out of their window and seeing someone playing with their gate ::)roll
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I'm glad you like it! Haha!
Yes it really is A3!
interesting... thanks Lee
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yes they are the same we have used for years, a few tweeks here and there but mostly the same.
Pics of the fleet eh? I better not as most on here will just bang on in a negative way about being fulfilled, how I'm making it all up, I'm a looser for what I'm doing ect,ect,ect.
Its a shame really because whats happening at my end is very exciting and would be great to talk about but I'm a bit put off this forum now.
I can say we are very impressed with the univalve and will be ordering some more soon.
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Your a window cleaner!!!!!get over yourself.
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Your a window cleaner!!!!!get over yourself.
This is exactly the sort of small minded thing I'm talking about that has ruined this forum. Years ago when I joined here it was never like this.
Actually Mick I'm not a window cleaner and never have been. I view myself as a person who owns a window cleaning business. You will find there is a very big difference between the 2 and you would do better to change your mind set.
Its such a shame that people like you and a few others here have to ruin it for everyone else. I don't plan on sharing anymore of the details of what I'm doing on here.
Lets all just get back to the latest pole or brush.
Note to moderators - you guys really have let this once great forum slip right down by allowing posts that border on abusive, any time someone wants to share a success storey or talk about something bigger. The few idiots on here should be banned so everyone else doesn't get shot down every time its not about a pole or brush!
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Your a window cleaner!!!!!get over yourself.
This is exactly the sort of small minded thing I'm talking about that has ruined this forum. Years ago when I joined here it was never like this.
Actually Mick I'm not a window cleaner and never have been. I view myself as a person who owns a window cleaning business. You will find there is a very big difference between the 2 and you would do better to change your mind set.
Its such a shame that people like you and a few others here have to ruin it for everyone else. I don't plan on sharing anymore of the details of what I'm doing on here.
Lets all just get back to the latest pole or brush.
Note to moderators - you guys really have let this once great forum slip right down by allowing posts that border on abusive, any time someone wants to share a success storey or talk about something bigger. The few idiots on here should be banned so everyone else doesn't get shot down every time its not about a pole or brush!
i agree with you Lee.
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Your a window cleaner!!!!!get over yourself.
This is exactly the sort of small minded thing I'm talking about that has ruined this forum. Years ago when I joined here it was never like this.
Actually Mick I'm not a window cleaner and never have been. I view myself as a person who owns a window cleaning business. You will find there is a very big difference between the 2 and you would do better to change your mind set.
Its such a shame that people like you and a few others here have to ruin it for everyone else. I don't plan on sharing anymore of the details of what I'm doing on here.
Lets all just get back to the latest pole or brush.
Note to moderators - you guys really have let this once great forum slip right down by allowing posts that border on abusive, any time someone wants to share a success storey or talk about something bigger. The few idiots on here should be banned so everyone else doesn't get shot down every time its not about a pole or brush!
i agree with you Lee.
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What success story is there here?.
I simply typed you need to get over yourself.
Go on then where is your fleet of 8 Brand New vans all Ioniced up with the latest systems to add to your 5 that are already on the road.
I do like hearing success stories and am a positive person especially when there is proof in the pudding but without proof it is simply hot air. I'm a realist that likes to read between the lines, i wouldnt say im small minded or a negative! But if i have come across that way then its due to it being typed words sounding more harsh than actualy meant.
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Mick I was generalising I havnt said there is a success storey here.
As I have stated, I will not be talking about anything I'm doing on here again.
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Mick I was generalising I havnt said there is a success storey here.
As I have stated, I will not be talking about anything I'm doing on here again.
What brushes are you using?
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Mick I was generalising I havnt said there is a success storey here.
As I have stated, I will not be talking about anything I'm doing on here again.
What brushes are you using?
An excellent question. We use gardiner sill brush "stiff" on all our poles. I feel this is the best all round brush on the market and it handles our hot water well.
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There's a little clique of people on here who on a knee-jerk basis attack any post by anyone who has ever had the temerity to write about success. One of them likes success stories so much that he finds (but can't read) company accounts and presents figures incorrectly gleaned from them as though he knows what he's talking about.
I read what the clique posts but don't respond any more. I just feel sorry for them; it must be tragic for them to have such an empty life.
I'm sure one of them will be along soon enough.
Vin
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People with empty lives lie and big themselfs up, attention seek and always try to be right ;)
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I'm sure one of them will be along soon enough.
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People with empty lives lie and big themselfs up and attention seek ;)
Nail squarely hit on head there Michael ;D
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Mick I was generalising I havnt said there is a success storey here.
As I have stated, I will not be talking about anything I'm doing on here again.
Great! ;) You'll be posting that septic peg has predicted how many vans you'll have on the road by 2044 like that other plonker who frequents this place only to have his over enlarged ego stroked! You'll be creating your own "celebration days" like him also at this rate!! ;D ;D ;D
I agree with Mick, hot air is..... well, just that.
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Mick I was generalising I havnt said there is a success storey here.
As I have stated, I will not be talking about anything I'm doing on here again.
Great! ;) You'll be posting that septic peg has predicted how many vans you'll have on the road by 2044 like that other plonker who frequents this place only to have his over enlarged ego stroked! You'll be creating your own "celebration days" like him also at this rate!! ;D ;D ;D
I agree with Mick, hot air is..... well, just that.
You're just acting like a bully.
if you aren't interested in Lee's posts about business, just get involved in the other posts you are interested in.
myself, i have no interested in technical posts about immersion tanks, or new brushes, or cheaper poles or whatever. so i don't read them and look for business and entrepreneurial posts on here.
for me lee's posts are generally very interesting and spark my motivation and enthusiasm for my business.
this forum is weaker for him and others like him being bullied and barracked off it.
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What success story is there here?.
I simply typed you need to get over yourself.
Go on then where is your fleet of 8 Brand New vans all Ioniced up with the latest systems to add to your 5 that are already on the road.
I do like hearing success stories and am a positive person especially when there is proof in the pudding but without proof it is simply hot air. I'm a realist that likes to read between the lines, i wouldnt say im small minded or a negative! But if i have come across that way then its due to it being typed words sounding more harsh than actualy meant.
this is just bullying again.
is this forum really just for people who want to talk about technical things about window cleaning?
is there no room for people who are running larger businesses and have business and entrepreneurial perspectives and problems? or people who aspire to that?
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Erm, the clue is in the title of the forum - I believe it's called something like Window Cleaning Issues which might be why windowcleaners rather than business men tend to discuss immersion tanks, poles and brushes.
I could be wrong.
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Erm, the clue is in the title of the forum - I believe it's called something like Window Cleaning Issues which might be why windowcleaners rather than business men tend to discuss immersion tanks, poles and brushes.
I could be wrong.
you are wrong. window cleaning is a business.
you're not going to tell me you do it for a hobby are you?! ;)
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I have no allegiance to anyone on this forum and agree with others who have said Micks comments were out of order. Simply no need for it I'm afraid Mick.
That is one serious beast of a flyer there Lee. Do you monitor your ROI from these. What's the take up rate like?
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Richard, may I suggest you get a life and "man up" just a little?
The old accusation of "bullying" tactic is reserved for attention seeking saddos who waste away their lives on Facebook!
Why don't you, Lee and the other Two create your own forum - or would there not be enough of an audience for you?
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Richard, may I suggest you get a life and "man up" just a little?
The old accusation of "bullying" tactic is reserved for attention seeking saddos who waste away their lives on Facebook!
Why don't you, Lee and the other Two create your own forum - or would there not be enough of an audience for you?
Piere, you're behaviour in the posts on this subject aren't the behaviour of a 'man', it's like a school boy. it's unpleasant and bullying.
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Erm, the clue is in the title of the forum - I believe it's called something like Window Cleaning Issues which might be why windowcleaners rather than business men tend to discuss immersion tanks, poles and brushes.
I could be wrong.
you are wrong. window cleaning is a business.
you're not going to tell me you do it for a hobby are you?! ;)
I do it for a living.
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Richard, may I suggest you get a life and "man up" just a little?
The old accusation of "bullying" tactic is reserved for attention seeking saddos who waste away their lives on Facebook!
Why don't you, Lee and the other Two create your own forum - or would there not be enough of an audience for you?
Piere, you're behaviour in the posts on this subject aren't the behaviour of a 'man', it's like a school boy. it's unpleasant and bullying.
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Grow a pair you tart! ::)roll
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Erm, the clue is in the title of the forum - I believe it's called something like Window Cleaning Issues which might be why windowcleaners rather than business men tend to discuss immersion tanks, poles and brushes.
I could be wrong.
you are wrong. window cleaning is a business.
you're not going to tell me you do it for a hobby are you?! ;)
I do it for a living.
exactly. so it's a business.
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Richard, may I suggest you get a life and "man up" just a little?
The old accusation of "bullying" tactic is reserved for attention seeking saddos who waste away their lives on Facebook!
Why don't you, Lee and the other Two create your own forum - or would there not be enough of an audience for you?
Piere, you're behaviour in the posts on this subject aren't the behaviour of a 'man', it's like a school boy. it's unpleasant and bullying.
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Grow a pair you tart! ::)roll
are you actually trying to be ironic here?
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That is one serious beast of a flyer there Lee. Do you monitor your ROI from these. What's the take up rate like?
I'd say its to early at this stage for Lee to have any meaningfull KPI's . Like you though probably, i'm keeping a keen eye on the feedback and i'm ready to adapt my business model to any new marketting trends identified. This forum and its advice has helped me go from strength to strength, and this year i started off uniforms and a logo. Next year i even intend to pay tax and knock the working tax credit in the head.
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I have no allegiance to anyone on this forum and agree with others who have said Micks comments were out of order. Simply no need for it I'm afraid Mick.
That is one serious beast of a flyer there Lee. Do you monitor your ROI from these. What's the take up rate like?
Intelligent questions will be answered.
Yes. we consistently get 0.5% return in terms of customer numbers. 193 this week when I left the office at 5.30pm with around £3000 of add on services/one offs. 150K went out this week to the south coast areas. total cost of campaign £18,000 total expected from that within 4 months 750 customers, £15,000 add ons/one offs
let the morons begin........
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Yes. we consistently get 0.5% return in terms of customer numbers. 193 this week when I left the office at 5.30pm with around £3000 of add on services/one offs. 150K went out this week to the south coast areas. total cost of campaign £18,000 total expected from that within 4 months 750 customers, £15,000 add ons/one offs
let the morons begin........
You should be ashamed of yourself reffering to your workers like that. They're just trying to earn a wage like anyone else. So what, so they've just started on your new work.......disgusting if you ask me to refer to them like that.
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brilliant................
Just in case your not joking, im refering to the morons on here!
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You should be ashamed of yourself reffering to your workers like that. They're just trying to earn a wage like anyone else. So what, so they've just started on your new work.......disgusting if you ask me to refer to them like that.
Now this made me chuckle as its tongue in cheek, not just an outright slagging off.
Fair play Lee, that's a great return. Nearly clearing your outlay in one offs alone, then a bulk of regulars to keep paying for extra marketing.
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You should be ashamed of yourself reffering to your workers like that. They're just trying to earn a wage like anyone else. So what, so they've just started on your new work.......disgusting if you ask me to refer to them like that.
Now this made me chuckle as its tongue in cheek, not just an outright slagging off.
Fair play Lee, that's a great return. Nearly clearing your outlay in one offs alone, then a bulk of regulars to keep paying for extra marketing.
Now were learning! ;)
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There was nothing bullying about my post at all.
If a man is gonna post on a window cleaning forum how he is this and he is that then a bit of proof wouldnt go a miss is all im saying. I have proof of everything i do and say not that i have much or do that much in all fairness.
Im the opposite of Lee as instead of selling a house to move in with parents to better myself i bought another house so my parents could move in as they didnt own a house and landlords are all rip off merchants charging the earth in our area, they cover the buy to let mortgage and pay the bills and i make top money back on it as luckily the house is by a crossrail station :-) so everyone is a winner. I also built my folks up a window cleaning business so they have regular work and money coming in as step dad was made redundant 4 years back and couldnt find another job to cover living costs which i did to better them.
To me i feel i have achieved something by just doing that making sure my folks are ok.
Im a realist and a family man. Take me or leave me but im defo not a bully! A doubter yes but no bully.
As said if someone gonna make these big posts how they have 13 vans with top of the range systems fitted then whats stopping them proving it? It would make us doubters eat our words .
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and landlords are all rip off merchants charging the earth in our area,
Well for a start Mick, you're getting £10 for fronts in London, we get a fiver up here so i know where you're coming from. London innit ? ;D
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Well done Lee. I have noticed on here for quite some time that too many people want to knock other people's ideas. I cant understand the mentality whether it's vision or aquadapter etc etc.
I don't plan on copying you but I do like hearing about your ideas, and plans. If you succeed I will be delighted for you if not then I would hope you would keep going.
It's the people that try different things that make this forum interesting.
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Not being funny Lee but I thought you were not going to discuss your business on here anymore.
Sadly all you are doing is adding fuel to the fire so to speak and will probably just end in tears again as this is ciu after all.
I wish you well and all that want to build a successful business one way or another but some things on an open forum are better not discussed I think. Maybe admin could create a private business section that is restricted to certain members like minded individuals as yourself, vin etc etc
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Mick i cant prove it yet because its not finished yet, I thought that would be obvious since I have only just started. I may have sold my house but I still own 2 flats which are rented out.
Smurf, your probably right, I just cant resist answering an intelligent genuine question.
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Only a fool would purchase a further 8 vehicles + systems without the workload to sustain them. It's bound to be a gradual process.
I really hope you achieve your ambition Lee.
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Only a fool would purchase a further 8 vehicles + systems without the workload to sustain them. It's bound to be a gradual process.
I really hope you achieve your ambition Lee.
I see your in Swindon. I had an enquiry a few months back to clean the advertising boards at the Swindon Robins speedway track but quite a trek so i didnt botherWell worth popping in and speaking with them about it.
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I guess im a fool then. to be clear its 6 with the option to take 2 more later in the year.
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I just cant resist answering an intelligent genuine question.
Just keep charting your progress and don't get bogged down trying to answer anyone in particular. Just answer a few general ones when you feel you can contribute a positive answer. And ignore anyone like me who says....so how come you still live in ya Ma's? !!! ;D
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Well done Lee. I have noticed on here for quite some time that too many people want to knock other people's ideas. I cant understand the mentality whether it's vision or aquadapter etc etc.
I don't plan on copying you but I do like hearing about your ideas, and plans. If you succeed I will be delighted for you if not then I would hope you would keep going.
It's the people that try different things that make this forum interesting.
So what are looking for in a forum then ? a bunch of Churchill dogs all going O Yes to every bit of crap that's posted, If I where
you I would be thankful that this forum has guys who are prepared to challenge nonsense when needed and at the same time
give help to all while remembering that they where once in the same boat, unlike some of these bigshots who think a question
about poles or brushes is beneath them.
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I live there because it was the cheepest option to live somewhere. simple really. That means I can leave more in the business for growth. Ive decided to write off 1-2 years of mt life in order to push on for hopefully the bigger picturer later.
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To be clear sean k, i like posts about poles and brushes, they are still very usefull and always will be. My point which has clearly been lost on you and others, is that its a shame that there cant be more that that without the abuse.
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Ok normal question.
How many customers do you currently have that makes you not happy with what you already have and have achieved?
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I live there because it was the cheepest option to live somewhere. simple really. That means I can leave more in the business for growth. Ive decided to write off 1-2 years of mt life in order to push on for hopefully the bigger picturer later.
I know that because you answered it before. All you gotta do now is like i said, ignore them type questions !! ;D
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I see your in Swindon. I had an enquiry a few months back to clean the advertising boards at the Swindon Robins speedway track but quite a trek so i didnt botherWell worth popping in and speaking with them about it.
Thanks for the heads up Mick. I expect they'll have had it done by now though. Off to the Dog racing there in a week or 2 so will inspect them ;D
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No prob. You never know :-) guys name was Wayne if i remember right.
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Years ago when I joined here it was never like this.
Maybe for the first six months, but then someone said "This forum is going downhill...", and it's been repeated ever since for well over the past decade! ;D
It was all going swimmingly on this post till your own negativity kicked in at Post No 11.
I personally think your biggest challenge will be administration, leadership and man-management skills. With your budget getting work in is easy. I suspect getting the work done, efficiently, will be the real challenge.
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till your own negativity kicked in at Post No 11.
I'll bet i'm not the only one who went back to page one and started counting ;D
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till your own negativity kicked in at Post No 11.
I'll bet i'm not the only one who went back to page one and started counting ;D
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You probably were!
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I personally think your biggest challenge will be administration, leadership and man-management skills. With your budget getting work in is easy. I suspect getting the work done, efficiently, will be the real challenge.
Completely agree with this. Getting the work is the easy part. Retaining it and your reputation is the hard part
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To be clear sean k, i like posts about poles and brushes, they are still very usefull and always will be. My point which has clearly been lost on you and others, is that its a shame that there cant be more that that without the abuse.
How to you work that out ? if I want to employ I can ask here if I want to put a second van on the road I can ask here
if need to raise finance to build my business I can ask here if I want to go over the VAT threshold and so on I can ask here and will get all those business questions answered without abuse.
Now if I come on here with a five vans already on the road and ask these questions then rightly or wrongly some are going to get suspicious about my motives.
That said if I had five vans on the road the abuse wouldn't annoy or stop me bragging about my success. lol.
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Ok normal question.
How many customers do you currently have that makes you not happy with what you already have and have achieved?
counter question. why do you think that im doing what im doing because im not happy? does someone who wants to go for it have to be un happy in order to do so?. ....
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Ok normal question.
How many customers do you currently have that makes you not happy with what you already have and have achieved?
counter question. why do you think that im doing what im doing because im not happy? does someone who wants to go for it have to be un happy in order to do so?. ....
Pain is a great motivator. You might be dissatisfied with your life - ergo unhappy - so have decided to take a risk to improve it.
We do things because we either want to avoid pain and suffering, or because we want to be happy. This is the human condition.
In an earlier post you said you're putting your life on hold for a few years; from that I'm inferring that you're delaying your happiness on the basis that once you're at the stage where you want to be, then your life will be off hold and you'll be happy.
Can I ask what administration, training, leadership and man-management experience you have? All that you have appeared to achieved so far could be achieved by anyone with 250k to spend. At some point you're going to have to be ultra organised and be able to make employees get the job done efficiently, day-in-day-out. I'm going to guess that there'll be a lot of learning on the job and improvising as you go.
I think that's when things will become interesting.
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To be clear sean k, i like posts about poles and brushes, they are still very usefull and always will be. My point which has clearly been lost on you and others, is that its a shame that there cant be more that that without the abuse.
How to you work that out ? if I want to employ I can ask here if I want to put a second van on the road I can ask here
if need to raise finance to build my business I can ask here if I want to go over the VAT threshold and so on I can ask here and will get all those business questions answered without abuse.
Now if I come on here with a five vans already on the road and ask these questions then rightly or wrongly some are going to get suspicious about my motives.
That said if I had five vans on the road the abuse wouldn't annoy or stop me bragging about my success. lol.
Er, that's not true. I got called or it was inferred a liar and that I'd lose all my customers. Notably by you and Blind Pierre or Chumbucket as was.
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Two things I don't really understand here.
1) Why any of you care whether or not Lee is telling the truth? I know a guy, let's call him Jim Buckthree, (you know the type) if you tell him you're going to teneriffe he'll tell you he's been to eleveneriffe. I just let him bash on with it, like everyone else does. No one sees the need to constantly call him up on every exaggeration. I'm not saying that 's what Lee's doing but I just don't get the constant need to call him on his claims. What difference does it make to any of you?
2) Why anyone would respond to the negative comments Lees' been getting? What are you hoping to gain from arguing with these people? Do you think you'll persuade them to change their minds? I'll tell you now that ain't going to happen. Ignore it and get on with your day. I believe this forum now has a function where you can turn them off. Your life (or certainly your day) will be better for it.
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To be clear sean k, i like posts about poles and brushes, they are still very usefull and always will be. My point which has clearly been lost on you and others, is that its a shame that there cant be more that that without the abuse.
How to you work that out ? if I want to employ I can ask here if I want to put a second van on the road I can ask here
if need to raise finance to build my business I can ask here if I want to go over the VAT threshold and so on I can ask here and will get all those business questions answered without abuse.
Now if I come on here with a five vans already on the road and ask these questions then rightly or wrongly some are going to get suspicious about my motives.
That said if I had five vans on the road the abuse wouldn't annoy or stop me bragging about my success. lol.
Er, that's not true. I got called or it was inferred a liar and that I'd lose all my customers. Notably by you and Blind Pierre or Chumbucket as was.
Now that is a lie mate and I challenge you to put up a link where I said any of the above, if your referring to your going over
the VAT limit post then the only thing I disagreed with was who was footing the bill you or the customers. I also pointed
out that you don't go VAT reg. if your only looking to do £100k a year worth of work and would need to be aiming for at least
double that as a long term plan.
But at the end of the day even if somebody did say you would lose all your customers then as long as they are being honest and
a give a decent reason why they said it then its good advice, at the end of the day its only an opinion and you don't have to take it.
Put it this way if it wasn't for guys in forums like this pointing out flaws in things like the mk1 smart clamp then we wouldn't have the mk2 an improved version, that's just one example.
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Has anybody accused Lee of not telling the truth ? from what I have read some just think his business plan is a
bit pie in the sky or doesn't add up.
I think most if not all admire his courage.
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Has anybody accused Lee of not telling the truth ? from what I have read some just think his business plan is a
bit pie in the sky or doesn't add up.
I think most if not all admire his courage.
Maybe no one has called him a liar flat out (although I think they probably have) but asking for proof and calling it "hot air" boils down to the same thing.
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go for it Lee, I think its brilliant what you are doing, any chance you could send me one of your posters I would love to see one,
stick your middle finger up to all the haters on here,
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Ignore the haters, this is definitely one of the most motivating posts on this forum.
Looking forward to more updates.
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Well, that went downhill pretty fast.
Everyone take a deep breath and check out the portable toilets and toilet paper after these helicopters have been through ;)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36232084
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To be clear sean k, i like posts about poles and brushes, they are still very usefull and always will be. My point which has clearly been lost on you and others, is that its a shame that there cant be more that that without the abuse.
How to you work that out ? if I want to employ I can ask here if I want to put a second van on the road I can ask here
if need to raise finance to build my business I can ask here if I want to go over the VAT threshold and so on I can ask here and will get all those business questions answered without abuse.
Now if I come on here with a five vans already on the road and ask these questions then rightly or wrongly some are going to get suspicious about my motives.
That said if I had five vans on the road the abuse wouldn't annoy or stop me bragging about my success. lol.
Er, that's not true. I got called or it was inferred a liar and that I'd lose all my customers. Notably by you and Blind Pierre or Chumbucket as was.
Now that is a lie mate and I challenge you to put up a link where I said any of the above, if your referring to your going over
the VAT limit post then the only thing I disagreed with was who was footing the bill you or the customers. I also pointed
out that you don't go VAT reg. if your only looking to do £100k a year worth of work and would need to be aiming for at least
double that as a long term plan.
But at the end of the day even if somebody did say you would lose all your customers then as long as they are being honest and
a give a decent reason why they said it then its good advice, at the end of the day its only an opinion and you don't have to take it.
Put it this way if it wasn't for guys in forums like this pointing out flaws in things like the mk1 smart clamp then we wouldn't have the mk2 an improved version, that's just one example.
Here you go.
question to the guys who have made the jump
what have been the benefits of going vat reg
have you made more profit since going vat reg than before being vat reg
have you picked up more work since being vat reg
Its not about making a jump it about having a turnover of more than £79000 you don't have a choice.
It's £81k this year.
I heard (though can't confirm) it'll be £85k next year.
Personally I don't believe that but if there are then they would be in a very small minority, strange how they all
find their way onto this forum.
Believe what?
The first bit is fact. The second bit I've said was only what I've heard ???
Was replying to the bit you deleted, not what you said about the vat.
I wasn't saying that you hadn't heard people boast about these type of earnings, I'm saying I don't believe these type
of people.
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till your own negativity kicked in at Post No 11.
I'll bet i'm not the only one who went back to page one and started counting ;D
Most of us would just go to page 1 and scroll down to #11, no need to count :P
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To be clear sean k, i like posts about poles and brushes, they are still very usefull and always will be. My point which has clearly been lost on you and others, is that its a shame that there cant be more that that without the abuse.
How to you work that out ? if I want to employ I can ask here if I want to put a second van on the road I can ask here
if need to raise finance to build my business I can ask here if I want to go over the VAT threshold and so on I can ask here and will get all those business questions answered without abuse.
Now if I come on here with a five vans already on the road and ask these questions then rightly or wrongly some are going to get suspicious about my motives.
That said if I had five vans on the road the abuse wouldn't annoy or stop me bragging about my success. lol.
Er, that's not true. I got called or it was inferred a liar and that I'd lose all my customers. Notably by you and Blind Pierre or Chumbucket as was.
Now that is a lie mate and I challenge you to put up a link where I said any of the above, if your referring to your going over
the VAT limit post then the only thing I disagreed with was who was footing the bill you or the customers. I also pointed
out that you don't go VAT reg. if your only looking to do £100k a year worth of work and would need to be aiming for at least
double that as a long term plan.
But at the end of the day even if somebody did say you would lose all your customers then as long as they are being honest and
a give a decent reason why they said it then its good advice, at the end of the day its only an opinion and you don't have to take it.
Put it this way if it wasn't for guys in forums like this pointing out flaws in things like the mk1 smart clamp then we wouldn't have the mk2 an improved version, that's just one example.
Here you go.
question to the guys who have made the jump
what have been the benefits of going vat reg
have you made more profit since going vat reg than before being vat reg
have you picked up more work since being vat reg
Its not about making a jump it about having a turnover of more than £79000 you don't have a choice.
It's £81k this year.
I heard (though can't confirm) it'll be £85k next year.
Personally I don't believe that but if there are then they would be in a very small minority, strange how they all
find their way onto this forum.
Believe what?
The first bit is fact. The second bit I've said was only what I've heard ???
Was replying to the bit you deleted, not what you said about the vat.
I wasn't saying that you hadn't heard people boast about these type of earnings, I'm saying I don't believe these type
of people.
Seriously 8 weekly if you ever get tired of window cleaning there's a job waiting for you in the South Yorkshire Police, that
was a reply to some willy waver making over £85k a year working on his own, as you have employees then it couldn't have been
aimed at you unless you failed to mention them at the time.
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To be clear sean k, i like posts about poles and brushes, they are still very usefull and always will be. My point which has clearly been lost on you and others, is that its a shame that there cant be more that that without the abuse.
How to you work that out ? if I want to employ I can ask here if I want to put a second van on the road I can ask here
if need to raise finance to build my business I can ask here if I want to go over the VAT threshold and so on I can ask here and will get all those business questions answered without abuse.
Now if I come on here with a five vans already on the road and ask these questions then rightly or wrongly some are going to get suspicious about my motives.
That said if I had five vans on the road the abuse wouldn't annoy or stop me bragging about my success. lol.
Er, that's not true. I got called or it was inferred a liar and that I'd lose all my customers. Notably by you and Blind Pierre or Chumbucket as was.
Now that is a lie mate and I challenge you to put up a link where I said any of the above, if your referring to your going over
the VAT limit post then the only thing I disagreed with was who was footing the bill you or the customers. I also pointed
out that you don't go VAT reg. if your only looking to do £100k a year worth of work and would need to be aiming for at least
double that as a long term plan.
But at the end of the day even if somebody did say you would lose all your customers then as long as they are being honest and
a give a decent reason why they said it then its good advice, at the end of the day its only an opinion and you don't have to take it.
Put it this way if it wasn't for guys in forums like this pointing out flaws in things like the mk1 smart clamp then we wouldn't have the mk2 an improved version, that's just one example.
Here you go.
question to the guys who have made the jump
what have been the benefits of going vat reg
have you made more profit since going vat reg than before being vat reg
have you picked up more work since being vat reg
Its not about making a jump it about having a turnover of more than £79000 you don't have a choice.
It's £81k this year.
I heard (though can't confirm) it'll be £85k next year.
Personally I don't believe that but if there are then they would be in a very small minority, strange how they all
find their way onto this forum.
Believe what?
The first bit is fact. The second bit I've said was only what I've heard ???
Was replying to the bit you deleted, not what you said about the vat.
I wasn't saying that you hadn't heard people boast about these type of earnings, I'm saying I don't believe these type
of people.
Seriously 8 weekly if you ever get tired of window cleaning there's a job waiting for you in the South Yorkshire Police, that
was a reply to some willy waver making over £85k a year working on his own, as you have employees then it couldn't have been
aimed at you unless you failed to mention them at the time.
It was aimed at me as I was the "willy waver". I had no employees at the time. I was quite taken aback at the hostility on here when I asked how other coped with going VAT registered. People were having digs in other threads as well. You and Chumbucket were the worst, but there were others.
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Two things I don't really understand here.
1) Why any of you care whether or not Lee is telling the truth? I know a guy, let's call him Jim Buckthree, (you know the type) if you tell him you're going to teneriffe he'll tell you he's been to eleveneriffe. I just let him bash on with it, like everyone else does. No one sees the need to constantly call him up on every exaggeration. I'm not saying that 's what Lee's doing but I just don't get the constant need to call him on his claims. What difference does it make to any of you?
2) Why anyone would respond to the negative comments Lees' been getting? What are you hoping to gain from arguing with these people? Do you think you'll persuade them to change their minds? I'll tell you now that ain't going to happen. Ignore it and get on with your day. I believe this forum now has a function where you can turn them off. Your life (or certainly your day) will be better for it.
This is just about the best post of all time.
there is a network off this forum (loosely speaking) where several cleaning companies chew the fat on problems and challenges that may not be popular on here.
To some the old saying applies - people are happy to see you doing well, untill you start doing better than them
Darran
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For the attention of 8 weekly.
Example 1. Iv been window cleaning for about 2 years now taking in around £500 to £800 a day, I'm now on the verge
of hitting the VAT threshold with about 30% of my workload still to fill, my question is should I stop now or fill my round and
be no better off ?
Example 2. My window cleaning business has been going from strength to strength and I'm getting closer to the VAT threshold,
I'm looking to know what are the pros and cons in going over the limit ?
Which post is going to get help and which will be seen as nothing more than a look at me aren't I brilliant post ?
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Neither - both seem reasonable to me
Darran
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Please follow smudger's advice and use the mentioned "other place" to talk your big businesses. Or, as mentioned before, is audience not there? This is after all "window cleaning issues" and you are trespassing on us mere minions! :-*
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For the attention of 8 weekly.
Example 1. Iv been window cleaning for about 2 years now taking in around £500 to £800 a day, I'm now on the verge
of hitting the VAT threshold with about 30% of my workload still to fill, my question is should I stop now or fill my round and
be no better off ?
Example 2. My window cleaning business has been going from strength to strength and I'm getting closer to the VAT threshold,
I'm looking to know what are the pros and cons in going over the limit ?
Which post is going to get help and which will be seen as nothing more than a look at me aren't I brilliant post ?
Why do others issues on here concern you so much Sean.
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Please follow smudger's advice and use the mentioned "other place" to talk your big businesses. Or, as mentioned before, is audience not there? This is after all "window cleaning issues" and you are trespassing on us mere minions! :-*
Ahh, you poor thing, the "other place" as you have decided to call it, is merely chats via messenger and emails just conversations nothing about being superior or others being minions or plebs that, is just in your mind.
It's a bit worrying that window cleaning isn't regarded as a buisness, and those that wish to, or trying expand are no longer regarded as window cleaners or shouldn't attempt to be more than a self employed single operator - it's really bizarre
Darran
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The clue is in the forum title smudger it reads "window cleaning issues". Not really the place to seek attention and willy wave about big business. I fully agree that there should be another section where you Five can all talk with each other freely. ;)
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For the attention of 8 weekly.
Example 1. Iv been window cleaning for about 2 years now taking in around £500 to £800 a day, I'm now on the verge
of hitting the VAT threshold with about 30% of my workload still to fill, my question is should I stop now or fill my round and
be no better off ?
Example 2. My window cleaning business has been going from strength to strength and I'm getting closer to the VAT threshold,
I'm looking to know what are the pros and cons in going over the limit ?
Which post is going to get help and which will be seen as nothing more than a look at me aren't I brilliant post ?
Why do others issues on here concern you so much Sean.
They don't Slack, made a statement saying that people on here have no problem helping others on here no matter what
they earn, to which I have ended up in a argument with 8 weekly over a comment I made on his willy waving thread a few years
ago.
I bite too easily.
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For the attention of 8 weekly.
Example 1. Iv been window cleaning for about 2 years now taking in around £500 to £800 a day, I'm now on the verge
of hitting the VAT threshold with about 30% of my workload still to fill, my question is should I stop now or fill my round and
be no better off ?
Example 2. My window cleaning business has been going from strength to strength and I'm getting closer to the VAT threshold,
I'm looking to know what are the pros and cons in going over the limit ?
Which post is going to get help and which will be seen as nothing more than a look at me aren't I brilliant post ?
The VAT threshold is unavoidable if you want to grow. My questions were do you pass the VAT on. Responses like why should your customers pay your tax aren't very helpful.
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The clue is in the forum title smudger it reads "window cleaning issues". Not really the place to seek attention and willy wave about big business. I fully agree that there should be another section where you Five can all talk with each other freely. ;)
I reckon one for you and Sean as well. ;D
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I wouldnt put Smudger in the "look at me catogory" he does actualy make sence and gives great advice on here and in the few years he has been going he has done really well.
You can always tell who are the dreamers and wannabes as they have to post it online bigging themselves up for all too see and worship on forums like this where the guys who are doing well simply dont have to and feel the need too.
Do we get the big boys the likes of Dave Morris, Charlie Price, Antac, ARL, LCC, Approved etc etc on here saying how they are hitting x amount or what they plan to do??? No we dont as they simply aren't full of it and dont seek the attention.
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Hi Lee. Interested in your new campaign, office and growth. Look forward to the updates on here and your explanation on how you get the best results.
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Please follow smudger's advice and use the mentioned "other place" to talk your big businesses. Or, as mentioned before, is audience not there? This is after all "window cleaning issues" and you are trespassing on us mere minions! :-*
Why are you speaking for everyone?
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Please follow smudger's advice and use the mentioned "other place" to talk your big businesses. Or, as mentioned before, is audience not there? This is after all "window cleaning issues" and you are trespassing on us mere minions! :-*
Why are you speaking for everyone?
Are you intoxicated?
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Hi Lee .... have you expanded into new areas or did u drop the leaflets in the areas you already work ??
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Hi Lee .... have you expanded into new areas or did u drop the leaflets in the areas you already work ??
Hi Ian
Both is the answer.
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Hi Lee,
I wish i could have the same motivation as you,well done mate,you can be proud of yourself.
Ben