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Title: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Shane sharples on April 10, 2016, 11:51:46 am
Hi all , just picked up a nice job with modern grey coloured frames etc . On the patio doors they have chrome  hinges and handles . The owner said I don't know what the other guy was using but it started to ruin the chrome . When I inspected , it looked as though the fittings had either started to rust ( wasn't orange) or the pure was eating at the chrome  ???
Has anyone else experience with this?
Cheers
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Clever Forum Name on April 10, 2016, 12:21:04 pm
Is it a new build house? as in on this new build estates that pop up.........
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Shane sharples on April 10, 2016, 12:40:43 pm
No mate it's an old house that's been modernised
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Smurf on April 10, 2016, 12:51:16 pm
Hi all , just picked up a nice job with modern grey coloured frames etc . On the patio doors they have chrome  hinges and handles . The owner said I don't know what the other guy was using but it started to ruin the chrome . When I inspected , it looked as though the fittings had either started to rust ( wasn't orange) or the pure was eating at the chrome  ???
Has anyone else experience with this?
Cheers

It's nothing to do with using pure water as it's not a solvent as is no different when the door fittings gets wet when it rains.
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Shane sharples on April 10, 2016, 12:55:52 pm
Ok cheers maybe he was using an additive or something then  ???
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: ascjim on April 10, 2016, 01:00:08 pm
It was probably nothing to do with him. You know how stupid some people are
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Clever Forum Name on April 10, 2016, 01:11:33 pm
There is an optional "upgrade" on some new builds of chrome hinges. I clean some, as you do. I could actually see the damage being done. She got them under warranty, but same is happening. Poor quality.
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Og on April 10, 2016, 01:58:19 pm
Does chrome oxidise?
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Shane sharples on April 10, 2016, 02:19:45 pm
There is an optional "upgrade" on some new builds of chrome hinges. I clean some, as you do. I could actually see the damage being done. She got them under warranty, but same is happening. Poor quality.

Aha I see , nice 1 . At least I know I'm not the only one !
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Perfect Windows on April 10, 2016, 02:22:43 pm
Vision.
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: SeanK on April 10, 2016, 02:34:59 pm
Does chrome oxidise?

No but if the quality of the metal under it is poor/cheap then the chrome starts to lift and eventually peel away, that
combined with the chrome being too thinly applied.
For outside fittings it needs to be top quality, but you can be certain its nothing to do with pure or anything added to it.
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: slap bash on April 10, 2016, 03:25:41 pm
AS Sean says 100 %.
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Shane sharples on April 10, 2016, 05:16:06 pm
Thanks everyone, just trying to be prepared for when I get the blame next for ruining his chrome  ;D
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: M & C Window Cleaning on April 10, 2016, 07:10:29 pm
Been using pure to clean my car for eight years and it hasn't harmed the Chrome fittings any more than the rain has. They look almost as good as when I first got it, which is pretty good.
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Spruce on April 10, 2016, 07:59:57 pm
You clean them once a month. The rain wets them 3 or 4 times a week. It must be the window cleaner!

Poor quality fittings I'm afraid as has been said. The water gets between the chrome and the base. The base oxidises, swells and lifts the chrome.  (Is it actually chrome or some chrome look alike coating, the same stuff they put on plastic).  I think the hinge is an alloy - its not steel.

We have one house where this is happening.  The other couple where the same thing is happening have a white coating.  One house even has the hinge pins going rusty - it was already doing it before I did the first clean after they were fitted. I reported it but nothing was done.
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Shane sharples on April 10, 2016, 08:52:51 pm
They look quite expensive to be honest , not the kind of people that look like they'd try to save a bit of money on cheap fittings , 65 plate bmw , everything looks posh , nice clothes etc etc , they don't look like the chrome you'd get on your shower fittings
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: nathankaye on April 10, 2016, 09:19:31 pm
I was under the impression that pure water is a solvent and if used on metal for instance it would rust far more quicker than rain water fall and that pure water was also corrosive.
But then i was reading a whole lot on pure water, ultra pure water and its many usages and if safe to drink etc, regardless of used resins or not.

Another i have noticed, probably due to lack of chlorine, but ive had same customers for many years, but since using wfp and bare in mind my rotation is every 4wks.....the development of algae in groves of plastic frames leading down onto frames. Also note that yes i obviusly clean frames n sills, as anyone else noted this or is it a given
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: windowswashed on April 10, 2016, 09:30:27 pm
I've noticed it as well
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Spruce on April 10, 2016, 09:54:08 pm
I was under the impression that pure water is a solvent and if used on metal for instance it would rust far more quicker than rain water fall and that pure water was also corrosive.
But then i was reading a whole lot on pure water, ultra pure water and its many usages and if safe to drink etc, regardless of used resins or not.

Another i have noticed, probably due to lack of chlorine, but ive had same customers for many years, but since using wfp and bare in mind my rotation is every 4wks.....the development of algae in groves of plastic frames leading down onto frames. Also note that yes i obviusly clean frames n sills, as anyone else noted this or is it a given

This year appears worse than previous years. We've been wfp for going on 11 years so if this was a pure water issue then I would think we would have noticed it before now.

This year has been very wet and windy for us and I notice that the green algea is mainly on north facing windows.
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: nathankaye on April 10, 2016, 10:41:55 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1460324501_Screenshot_2016-04-10-22-29-04.png)
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: dazmond on April 11, 2016, 10:48:54 pm
i have a few customers who have degraded chrome letterboxes/handles etc.fairly newish doors too.it cant be caused by wfp though as some i just use a damp scrim/microfibre and give them a quick wipe.some i wfp and all are flaking/rusting the same. ::)roll
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Smurf on April 11, 2016, 10:51:00 pm
I blame the acid rain or more like the made in china sticker on them  ;D
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Dave Willis on April 12, 2016, 07:59:23 am
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1460324501_Screenshot_2016-04-10-22-29-04.png)


Where did that come from?
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: SeanK on April 12, 2016, 08:26:48 am
Not hard to find nonsense like that Dave, I hadn't long started when I was approached by a guy selling a new type
of water purifying machine for drinking water, latest tech from Japan and a game changer.
It filtered the water, electrified it, magnetised it and changed the molecules in such a way that by drinking it you could nearly
live forever as reversed ageing and cured everything from a cold to cancer.
The thing is deionising water still mystified me then so I nearly fell for it.(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1460445995_grin[1].gif)

Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: jk999 on April 12, 2016, 10:54:15 am
I once bought two magnets for my pipe that lead to to cold water feed and it did drop my ppm by 50 believe it or not, they got lost when I had my new kitchen fitted
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Shane sharples on April 15, 2016, 11:13:56 pm
Went back today , I told the owner that iv dried the handles with a waffle cloth  after I did the windows , he said I can't understand why the letter box and front door handle isn't affected but the extension at the back is....... ( I think something clicked ) .... He said - unless the builder who did the extension used a different quality handle compared to the front which came from a double glazing firm ....
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Smurf on April 15, 2016, 11:25:31 pm
Went back today , I told the owner that iv dried the handles with a waffle cloth  after I did the windows , he said I can't understand why the letter box and front door handle isn't affected but the extension at the back is....... ( I think something clicked ) .... He said - unless the builder who did the extension used a different quality handle compared to the front which came from a double glazing firm ....

I hope your reply was "No poope sherlock"  ;D
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: Tadgh O Shea on April 15, 2016, 11:49:37 pm
Went back today , I told the owner that iv dried the handles with a waffle cloth  after I did the windows , he said I can't understand why the letter box and front door handle isn't affected but the extension at the back is....... ( I think something clicked ) .... He said - unless the builder who did the extension used a different quality handle compared to the front which came from a double glazing firm ....
Hi Shrek, those waffle cloths are so good they may even restore the handles to their former glory.  ;)
Title: Re: Wfp eating at chrome hinges / handles
Post by: jk999 on April 16, 2016, 08:46:09 am
Went back today , I told the owner that iv dried the handles with a waffle cloth  after I did the windows , he said I can't understand why the letter box and front door handle isn't affected but the extension at the back is....... ( I think something clicked ) .... He said - unless the builder who did the extension used a different quality handle compared to the front which came from a double glazing firm ....
Hi Shrek, those waffle cloths are so good they may even restore the handles to their former glory.  ;)
I doubt that unless harrying potter made the cloths lol