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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: sunshine windows on March 20, 2016, 08:04:43 am

Title: Firestations
Post by: sunshine windows on March 20, 2016, 08:04:43 am
What with lots of firemen moonlighting as window cleaners. Do any full time cleaners have the contact to clean their local firestation?
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: Smurf on March 20, 2016, 09:26:09 am
I know firemen do many things but not bumped into one yet that cleans windows on their rest days.
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: Smudger on March 20, 2016, 01:17:02 pm
5 of them around here, but they are retained firefighters not full timers.

Darran
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: DaveG on March 20, 2016, 01:45:49 pm
I know firemen do many things but not bumped into one yet that cleans windows on their rest days.

Almost every fireman I have known has done "cash jobs" on their days off, including window cleaning.
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 20, 2016, 02:17:35 pm
I know firemen are brave and all that but there seems to be a lot of moaning about pay and conditions compared with say a front line paramedic girlie who has to save lives in a different way.
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: Michael B on March 20, 2016, 02:23:52 pm
Firefighters have a bad rep for moonlighting. Although there are probably plenty out there who work for "cash", the ones I know run very professional outfits in things such as tree surgery, electrical, plumbing etc.

To answer your question, the contract for the firestations in my locale are put out to tender by the local authority.
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 20, 2016, 02:44:53 pm
Firefighters have a bad rep for moonlighting. Although there are probably plenty out there who work for "cash", the ones I know run very professional outfits in things such as tree surgery, electrical, plumbing etc.

To answer your question, the contract for the firestations in my locale are put out to tender by the local authority.

Hi Michael and what is it that "your very professional outfit" works at?  ;D
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: Michael B on March 20, 2016, 03:01:05 pm
Ha!

I wish I was a firefighter but I prefer working for a living!
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on March 20, 2016, 03:20:43 pm
its about time they clamped down on them working extra hours as there off to comply with hse so that they can fire fight  and be safe not be tired putting themselves and the people there saveing at harms way
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 20, 2016, 04:12:09 pm
Ha!

I wish I was a firefighter but I prefer working for a living!

Your email address seems to indicate you have links?
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: Dave Willis on March 20, 2016, 05:30:56 pm
I know one who's a part time arsonist.
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: Michael B on March 20, 2016, 05:33:17 pm
Ha!

I wish I was a firefighter but I prefer working for a living!

Your email address seems to indicate you have links?

I am employed by a Brigade in a support role (equipment maintenance).
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: robert mitchell on March 20, 2016, 05:57:22 pm
its about time they clamped down on them working extra hours as there off to comply with hse so that they can fire fight  and be safe not be tired putting themselves and the people there saveing at harms way

What are you on about ?

What part of HSE do firefighters comply with ?

Anybody has the right to have more than one job (armed forces excluded) , i know several people that have 3 jobs .
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: robert mitchell on March 20, 2016, 06:55:12 pm
Especially from someone who has admitted on here that they overload there vans and have a quick emptying valve fitted in case they are stopped by vosa! :o
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: Og on March 20, 2016, 07:14:02 pm
I'm retained and cleaned our windows occasionally. It's true, a lot of firefighters are window cleaners. Ladders and hoses.
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: robert mitchell on March 21, 2016, 09:05:29 am
I know one who's a part time arsonist.

That has actually happened !  :o
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: robert mitchell on March 21, 2016, 09:11:08 am
I know firemen are brave and all that but there seems to be a lot of moaning about pay and conditions compared with say a front line paramedic girlie who has to save lives in a different way.

The ambulance service is in an awful state , we we work closely with them and are going to be taking some of there calls soon .

They have been on strike quite a few times actually and , quite rightly , they do moan .

Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: James chapman on March 22, 2016, 08:00:11 am
Ours get put out to tender as they have to be. They get done one or twice a year which I pointless and whichever company comes and does it is useless. They do a awful job but as usual in the fire service they have to get the cheapest job and dont care if it's a good job. Same with and building or decorating that gets done which is rare.

Oh and for whoever thinks we moan more than the paramedics well a lot of brigades are now doing co responding. So as well as having had our numbers slashed so even a small house fire becomes a lot more dangerous for us as well as car crashes flooding fishing dead bodies out of rivers rescuing people from height using line equipment people trapped pretty much anywhere. People locked out of their houses. People locked in their houses. Shut in lifts. A lot of firefighters now have to go to supposedly just the red calls for the ambulance because they can't keep up with the numbers. But in reality we are going to pretty much anything the paramedics haven't  got an ambulance to go to. Have you noticed the number of firefighters being killed and the increase in fire deaths over the last few years.
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: slap bash on March 22, 2016, 09:51:03 am
Maybe they need some rest on rest days. Overworked cleaning windows. Then on fire days they are tired and cannot focus on the things they need to do. The fella I know uses his window money to pay for a fancy Merc .
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: robert mitchell on March 22, 2016, 04:17:20 pm
Maybe they need some rest on rest days. Overworked cleaning windows. Then on fire days they are tired and cannot focus on the things they need to do. The fella I know uses his window money to pay for a fancy Merc .

Don't mean to be rude but that's utter bull and quite offensive .

Window cleaning doesn't affect my firefighting one bit .

What does it matter to you what the fella you know spends his money on ?

I have a friend who earns 25 grand a year as a bus driver and had just bought a brand new A class Mercedes .




Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: Shane sharples on March 22, 2016, 05:00:19 pm
Maybe they need some rest on rest days. Overworked cleaning windows. Then on fire days they are tired and cannot focus on the things they need to do. The fella I know uses his window money to pay for a fancy Merc .

Don't mean to be rude but that's utter bull and quite offensive .

Window cleaning doesn't affect my firefighting one bit .

What does it matter to you what the fella you know spends his money on ?

I have a friend who earns 25 grand a year as a bus driver and had just bought a brand new A class Mercedes .

Totally agree, you could be earning £15000 a year , no mortgage, no kids , no Mrs and be wealthier than the £30k dad of 4 kids and big mortgage and big wife :-)
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 22, 2016, 05:11:16 pm
Ours get put out to tender as they have to be. They get done one or twice a year which I pointless and whichever company comes and does it is useless. They do a awful job but as usual in the fire service they have to get the cheapest job and dont care if it's a good job. Same with and building or decorating that gets done which is rare.

Oh and for whoever thinks we moan more than the paramedics well a lot of brigades are now doing co responding. So as well as having had our numbers slashed so even a small house fire becomes a lot more dangerous for us as well as car crashes flooding fishing dead bodies out of rivers rescuing people from height using line equipment people trapped pretty much anywhere. People locked out of their houses. People locked in their houses. Shut in lifts. A lot of firefighters now have to go to supposedly just the red calls for the ambulance because they can't keep up with the numbers. But in reality we are going to pretty much anything the paramedics haven't  got an ambulance to go to. Have you noticed the number of firefighters being killed and the increase in fire deaths over the last few years.

That bit in red - Gov. website says 41 between 1987 and 2000 and 25 between 2001 and 2013.
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: robert mitchell on March 22, 2016, 06:14:29 pm
Ours get put out to tender as they have to be. They get done one or twice a year which I pointless and whichever company comes and does it is useless. They do a awful job but as usual in the fire service they have to get the cheapest job and dont care if it's a good job. Same with and building or decorating that gets done which is rare.

Oh and for whoever thinks we moan more than the paramedics well a lot of brigades are now doing co responding. So as well as having had our numbers slashed so even a small house fire becomes a lot more dangerous for us as well as car crashes flooding fishing dead bodies out of rivers rescuing people from height using line equipment people trapped pretty much anywhere. People locked out of their houses. People locked in their houses. Shut in lifts. A lot of firefighters now have to go to supposedly just the red calls for the ambulance because they can't keep up with the numbers. But in reality we are going to pretty much anything the paramedics haven't  got an ambulance to go to. Have you noticed the number of firefighters being killed and the increase in fire deaths over the last few years.

That bit in red - Gov. website says 41 between 1987 and 2000 and 25 between 2001 and 2013.

In particular we asked Professor Watterson to examine the deaths of firefighters at fires,
including fatalities at Marlie Farm (2006), Atherstone (2007), Dalry Road (2009) and Shirley
Towers (2010). In the UK over the last ten years, 14 firefighters have died in the line of
duty. Through exhaustive research on official reports, investigations, legal documents and
interviews with key stakeholders, the report identifies significant lessons from past fatalities
that need to be learned.

There were six firefighter deaths at fires in England between 1993/4 to 2003/4, but in the next ten years this doubled to 12 firefighter deaths and one fire technician death. A further death occurred in Scotland and another in Wales.

In Britain since 2010, it has been reported that there have been over 5000 firefighter jobs lost, 39 fire stations closed and response times increase substantially.

The two firefighters that died in the   shirley towers incident in 2010  were colleagues of mine , there were also two others badly burnt, one of them rescuing his partner .

The trend in firefighter deaths is that they are going up , thats a fact , in some parts of the country fire deaths (non firefighter) are also rising and this is largely due to the cuts .

there is no doubt in my mind that more and more people will die due to the austerity cuts , the fire service costs each household around £60 a year ....... i think that is very cheap , you will soon be getting around a 25-30 % worse service but be paying the same .



Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 22, 2016, 06:58:52 pm
So are the figures I drew my figures from on the Gov website wrong? It appears they were produced under a disclosure request.
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: Og on March 22, 2016, 07:33:27 pm
Found out last night that our fire station will shortly be a police station too.  (After hot ba wear!)

I find window cleaning quite relaxing, at my pace anyway.
Title: Re: Firestations
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on March 22, 2016, 07:46:27 pm
Especially from someone who has admitted on here that they overload there vans and have a quick emptying valve fitted in case they are stopped by vosa! :o
  yup and were still doing it because we ddnt give a hoot