Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Derek Corbrick on March 17, 2016, 04:13:43 pm
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Have done a few jobs recently with Dynamall, and have had breathing problems is it just because I have asthma or has anyone else had similar issues?
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Its a strange one, a few cc ers have commented about the smell, a few cc ers saying it made them cough etc i use a fair bit of it and ive never had any issue with it, only ever had clients commenting on how nice it smells.........
one of lifes little mysteries???
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Perhaps it is just with having asthma
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I don't have Asthma, and neither do any of my colleagues, and it makes us all cough. Even when we are doing commercial carpets and staff are in, they start coughing. I use the recommended dilution rate, depending on the traffic on the carpets, and no matter what the recommended dilution rate we do, we still cough.
Once that's calmed down, we always get told how nice the smell is, even the day after!
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A number of pre sprays can irritate the throat and mucus membranes. When it is atomised in the air we breath it in, fed through from an on board tank it shouldn't be a problem.
Dave.
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Makes me cough a bit as well though not as much as the earlier batches with the bigger mix ratio.
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Thanks guys, guess I'll just have go back to using surround.
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What causes the coughing?
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Peroxide I think.
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I don't think it's the peroxide, as I use Releasit which has it in. To me it might be the strongness of the smell (odour ) in the dynamall. Could do with being toned down some. Once again, fantastic product, apart from the smell. It's a shame it doesn't smell just like surround, as I think the smell of surround is top notch.
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How does Releasit compare to Dynamall Darran?
Got a 2 day commercial over Easter w/e might compare the two.
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I would say Releasit is better! ... Dynamall is still very good, just the coughing. Have you tired ds2?
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Only other I have tried is Fusion Clean but wasn't impressed on carpets...what's DS2?
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do u guys cough using hard floor speed stripper etc ? dynamall seems to have a glycol ester content like most of those ... could be that
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Only other I have tried is Fusion Clean but wasn't impressed on carpets...what's DS2?
http://www.cleaningsystems.co.uk/product/581/releasit_encap_clean_ds2 Strong stuff.
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do u guys cough using hard floor speed stripper etc ? dynamall seems to have a glycol ester content like most of those ... could be that
I'm fine with it... Takes a lot to get me coughing, (one reason when my wife wants to spend my money). I'm still convinced its the deodoriser in Dynamall. John Kelly might be able to shed some light.
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Got some in van...Jamie sent me some samples but I didn't know which one did what....got ds2....hydrox...punch and one other....
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Dynamall is used by a large Franchise company with approx. 26 franchisees. All of these have been asked and not one of them has had any issues. Dynamall is probably one of our biggest sellers. We've had an encap machine out on trial for the past week with one of the franchisees using Dynamall. For the first time he reported that it made him cough. He's used the same product for years without any problem before this. He thinks that the jet on the machine was too fine and was causing aerosolization of the product. Maybe the solution is to use a coarser jet in your sprayer and making sure you spray close to the carpet.
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I tried DS2, Punch and HydrOx. They are very good! Especially DS2. It is very economic. Unfortunally i can not get anymore. i will try Dynamall and Omega Profresh as my alternatives.
On heavy solied carpets i used Punch as a prespray, agitated with my CRB and then used DS2 for shampooing with a white floor pad. Works great! Although the Encap Spot from Releasit is great!
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Maybe it's the places it's used in that causes it......little or no ventilation and as John says use it closer to carpet....I took the wife with me on one at Xmas and she was coughing as well although it didn't seem to bother the security guy.
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Maybe it's the places it's used in that causes it......little or no ventilation and as John says use it closer to carpet....I took the wife with me on one at Xmas and she was coughing as well although it didn't seem to bother the security guy.
We always spray close to the carpets, so not to get the spray over the plug sockets etc (as some are so close to the floor). Might be a ventilation thing. Remember when we did help link offices JS and all the staff were coughing... :-)
I have a large commercial floor space booked in for 10 today... I'll see spraying even lower to the floor will make any difference.
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did some trials last night with zip dry encap t and release with oxybrake, working on large open plan call centre
and both products look very very promising.................
after extracting a large office which was really minging and taking out bucket after bucket off black water i went over
with these two, spraying down then bonnetting and they bought the carpet right back to life, very good!!!!
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Wasn't that the old stuff Darran with the higher mix ratio....the 1:10........the new stuff isn't half as bad.
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In SDS simply states re: Inhalation - May cause irritation.
http://www.dynamall.co.uk/img/page/MSDS%20Dynamall.pdf_page_image.pdf (http://www.dynamall.co.uk/img/page/MSDS%20Dynamall.pdf_page_image.pdf)
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In SDS simply states re: Inhalation - May cause irritation.
http://www.dynamall.co.uk/img/page/MSDS%20Dynamall.pdf_page_image.pdf (http://www.dynamall.co.uk/img/page/MSDS%20Dynamall.pdf_page_image.pdf)
nearly all products carry a similar warning these days as far a i can see .
look up the data sheet for johnsons baby powder and it says ' may cause irritation to upper repository tract ' but they wouldn't let it near babies if it was a risk .
I still think any likely coughing cause is the DPM mentioned in the data sheet , glycol ester ... fairly harmless but does make my eyes water a bit in other products if im in a confined space and there is a strongish smell of it .
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Maybe it's the places it's used in that causes it......little or no ventilation and as John says use it closer to carpet....I took the wife with me on one at Xmas and she was coughing as well although it didn't seem to bother the security guy.
We always spray close to the carpets, so not to get the spray over the plug sockets etc (as some are so close to the floor). Might be a ventilation thing. Remember when we did help link offices JS and all the staff were coughing... :-)
I have a large commercial floor space booked in for 10 today... I'll see spraying even lower to the floor will make any difference.
Darran, did you notice any difference when spraying lower to the floor on your last job? Did it make any difference?
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I couldn't really go much lower, otherwise the spray jet would be on the floor... We opened all the doors and windows, still made Shaun and myself cough, not as much mind you due to ventilation.
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Your nemesis Darran.
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/bubbleandsqueakcleaningservices?source=feed_text&story_id=1125090847512908
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Your nemesis Darran.
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/bubbleandsqueakcleaningservices?source=feed_text&story_id=1125090847512908
With his prices he is desperate for work. I'm established, doesnt bother me. Looks like he is using some DIY carpet machine looking at that wand.
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Don't you become immune to it? Sod met used to make me cough but not anymore.
Dynamall never made be cough at all, In fact I love the smell and customers always comment on how nice it is. That's sicking to the dilution rate, never went any higher.
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Don't you become immune to it? Sod met used to make me cough but not anymore.
Dynamall never made be cough at all, In fact I love the smell and customers always comment on how nice it is. That's sicking to the dilution rate, never went any higher.
That's good if it never made you cough... That doesn't mean it might not make others cough. Also I'm not knocking the smell, yes it's nice and I too get customers commenting how nice it is. What I am saying is it makes me cough even at the "Correct dilution rate", and makes others cough too. Always spray down near the carpet, as with any pre spray... it's just one of these things, some it will make cough, others it won't. The product is still very good, and will continue to use it.
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Don't you become immune to it? Sod met used to make me cough but not anymore.
Dynamall never made be cough at all, In fact I love the smell and customers always comment on how nice it is. That's sicking to the dilution rate, never went any higher.
That's good if it never made you cough... That doesn't mean it might not make others cough. Also I'm not knocking the smell, yes it's nice and I too get customers commenting how nice it is. What I am saying is it makes me cough even at the "Correct dilution rate", and makes others cough too. Always spray down near the carpet, as with any pre spray... it's just one of these things, some it will make cough, others it won't. The product is still very good, and will continue to use it.
Yeah I'm glad i'm one of the lucky one's ;D wear a mask! ;D
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Some thing makes me cough and I stop using it .Listen to your body.
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Releassit DS is a fantastic all round Encapsulation product , but is no longer available, or certainly not at the present, Dynamal is probably the best and certainly the most economical peroxide based product out there , when I use it through my Chemstractor or Cimex there isnt a problem , but when its sprayd down , I cough like mad, and its nothing to do with dilution rates because ive mixed it at 25/1 and 10/1 but its still the same , ive used course and fine jets but I still get problems
I would love to know what Zero Dry time do differently so there isnt a problem with coughing
Stuart
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Whats Procaps like ?
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I noticed when spraying down wih 4-6 bar or 60 to 90 psi with my gloria profiline sprayer i i tend to cough,,,when using less pressure i have no problem...
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Whats the typical drying time of Dynamall or any other encap for that matter , when used with a CRB and on domestics
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Depends on how much you put down, heat in the property etc! I know with commercial 30 min max.
Depending on traffic on domestic, carpets have dried within an hour.
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Doing college corridors over Easter w/e........approx 10m sections spray down and 2 minute dwell.....it was that hot had to re apply as I was agitating to stop brush sticking. so very quick drying.