Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: alireza on March 03, 2016, 05:05:17 pm
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Hi everyone
is it safe to have a LPG truckmount in a van threes a manufacture in america making custom build truckmount and I can have either Kohler diesel or LPG
I appreciate your help
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Iots of truckmounters have LPG Truckmounts so no problem there.
I would have thought the bigger question is LPG Or diesel..... which is best?
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My Titan 875 runs on lpg. Apart from the cost advantage it is a lot cleaner than diesel.
Simon
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As Simon says far cleaner.
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LPG is cleaner, quieter and cheaper than diesel, and safe enough.
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is LPG safe some people say it's very dangerous if leaks or you involve in an accident
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I was to,d that lpg is safer in an accident, can't remember who told me.
Lpg, just like petrol is in liquid form until it is turned into gas in the vaporiser.
Simo
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I've run mine on lpg fir years with no probs
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Liquified petroleum gas Simon............... ;D
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Yeah, but people focus on the word gas, which it isn't until just before it goes into the engine.
Simon
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Lpg sounds better but Diesel engines seem to last forever if love to have a tractor engine on tick over in my van
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Thanks everyone
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Given the choice of buying 2 new truckmounts a LPG or a diesel I would go for the diesel.
I would think a Diesel engine running on red diesel would be cheaper to run than a LPG engine even though LPG is cheaper to buy. And Diesel engine are much more industrial, if you look at machines that are designed to run 24-7 they always have Diesel engines never LPG.
Diesel engines are not populer with truckmount builders as the initial cost of a Diesel engine is much higher than petrol and they are conciderably heavier than an equal Hp petrol engine .....so makes the whole truckmount a lot heavier, more expensive and it has a bigger footprint in the van.
They also burn cooler so if you are running a heat exchanger to heat your water a diesel won't give as hot water as a petrol engine of comparative horse power
Also a Diesel engine is much much simplier in design, get a big petrol and you get into engine management systems which are a minefield of problems, a Diesel engine is incredibly simple in comparison which is why they are much more reliable
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Lpg sounds better but Diesel engines seem to last forever if love to have a tractor engine on tick over in my van
I have a tractor engine in my van,
and I only ever run it at half revs
Geoff
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Most of the time I run 75ft of pipes out and I have my tm on tick over I still get the waves of steam.
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Shaun,
You should never clean with your Titan on idle, you'll end up with problems.
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Thanks Glynn what's the lowest revs you use?
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Well mines the electronic speed control type so the mid setting usually which is 2600rpm.
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Shaun running any truckmount on too low revs all the time or for long periods of cleaning will knacker it up. Running it on 75-100 ft of pipe on low revs will put too much strain on the blower and the engine.
It will end up in the grave yard with the rest of your trucks ;D
Imagine driving your car in first gear all the way from your house to London and back. Then do that every day , after a while you will find the car will start having problems.
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Its more like setting off in 4th gear.
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More of a problem the smaller the engine.
Dave.
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Thank you all so if I order the LPG do you know someone to instal it or I can just call the local gas engineer
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Do you guys know anyone who can instal the machine or shall I just call the local gas engineer and what kind of heater do you use as the truckmount I ordered doesn't come with the heat exchanger
Thanks
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What TM didyou bought?
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Judson TNT
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If you are importing a Judson then tell them to stick a little giant gas heater in the container you will need a heat source
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If you don't mind, how much will it cost including shipping, tax etc?
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If you are importing a Judson then tell them to stick a little giant gas heater in the container you will need a heat source
I have a small van so there was no room for the little Giant unfortunately so I'm looking to see if someone can put a heat exchanger into my machine if you guys know someone please let me know
Thanks
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Those pictures are of 2 different machines.
Fitting a heat exchanger is simple for a competent metal fabricator, it's sourcing the actual exchanger which will be the problem, you could import one from the USA. What van do you have as it must be small if you cannot fit a little giant,.
If I'm being blunt it's a Bit daft buying a truckmount with no heat source, of all the machines you could have imported you went with one that has no way of heating the water
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Mike's right - sorry to be a killjoy but you have a cold solution feed and a vacuum..................you need heat to go with a truckmount to achieve the cleaning that you want. I would speak to your distributor. he will understand what we are saying and may have an answer for you from Judson.
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Have you actually ordered it ?, i.e paid out any money ?.
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No but planing to do it tomorrow i have a nissan nv 200 i can fit the LG but then i have to leave my porty at home London you always have to have a porty in the van
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I don't think you can get that tm, water tanks and all the other bits and bobs in that van.
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Has anyone got a Little Giant over here. Or something similar.
Perfect heat source for portables in vans
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Well I finally added Little Giant to my order last question please where do you guys keep the gas tank inside of your van ?
also is it safer to get a small tank or doesn't matter
Thanks
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I have a 100 ltr lpg tank boxed in next to the wheel arch with hose reel sitting on top, being as your going to be tight for room i would see if you can get it under the van. Have you checked to see if the van is capable of carrying the weight of a truck mount and everything else as i'd say you really need a 3.5tonne van. who have you ordered the machine from over here?
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Has anyone got a Little Giant over here. Or something similar.
Perfect heat source for portables in vans
yes I have a PowerClean machine 22hp watercooled fitted with a Lavor diesel water heater (from Qservices see ebay: PRESSURE WASHER HOT WATER BOILER 15LTRS/MIN STEAM CLEANER LAVOR 8.690.0039) super hot and reliable - not lpg but just as quick to full temp - better at high pressure but works fine at 300-400psi for carpets - u get lots of soot if doing uph but just have to turn burner off and do it quickly at the end.
There cant be many Judson's in the UK be interested in how it performs - he seems to know what he's doing as they are pretty straight forward - the OP just does not seem to have had much experience of tm's in general - still for that price (£12k?) the only other machine you could get is a Chemtex!
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I have a edge technologies kit on the kholerv twin engine in the pic https://www.edgetechnology.co.uk, and yes a little giant lpg boiler would do the job off the same tank
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...... Have you checked to see if the van is capable of carrying the weight of a truck mount and everything else as i'd say you really need a 3.5tonne van.....
With the weight of the Judson alone at 300kg plus the weight of the waste tank - burner - and presumably fresh water tank plus all your other bits and pieces your going to be running very close to the max of your van's payload - which is 728kg