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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Hard Floor Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: derek west on February 21, 2016, 06:53:12 pm
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Anyone know a good importing company i can use to import a large machine from turkey or any advice,
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I've used Keune & Nagel to import from the States but sometimes there are guys with transit vans that specialise in trips in and out of a country and they may be a cheaper option.
http://www.sumerman.com/home.html
http://www.istanbulekspres.com.tr/
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Cheers Tony, will send that superman a message to see if they can help.
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I've used Keune & Nagel to import from the States but sometimes there are guys with transit vans that specialise in trips in and out of a country and they may be a cheaper option.
http://www.sumerman.com/home.html
http://www.istanbulekspres.com.tr/
Tony
Wow! Kuehne & Nagel! Good call! Strange as I always found them to be very very expensive every time I have asked for quotes from the USA. But in Germany I used them regularly to ship and their service was exceptional. Derek won't go wrong with them shipping his BIG machine from Turkey :o
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I've used Keune & Nagel to import from the States but sometimes there are guys with transit vans that specialise in trips in and out of a country and they may be a cheaper option.
http://www.sumerman.com/home.html
http://www.istanbulekspres.com.tr/
#tacca2016
Tony
Wow! Kuehne & Nagel! Good call! Strange as I always found them to be very very expensive every time I have asked for quotes from the USA. But in Germany I used them regularly to ship and their service was exceptional. Derek won't go wrong with them shipping his BIG machine from Turkey :o
4 meters by 1 meter by 1 meter, and 500 kilos, thats big in my eyes Kev.
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Nobody said anything about the size! I was re-iterating what you had said in your original post that is was a LARGE machine and you needed help and import advice on it!
Consequently you having now posted the full info, weights and dimensions Tony's helpful post demonstrates that it isn't going to fit on a Ford Transit is it??? So you probably need a specialist to both transport and load it at their end and the necessary equipment to unload it at your end because I would imagine, but don't know, that this item may need to be crated so a tail lift isn't going to handle it. You will also need a full description because there could be parts of it that are Hazardous along with the commodity code to get a price off any Professional Shipping Company especially Kuehne & Nagel as they will need to sort bonding, dock fees, import duty and VAT out for HMRC when it lands prior to it being transported onwards to you! Finally assuming this lump of kit costs more than fourpence you will also need to sort door to door transit insurance for the full value with your shipping agent as well.
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:o :(
Thats why i just want someone to do the lot for me. sent a few messages but not getting any replies. Probably because i sound like an idiot as ive no idea what to ask. ;D
no hazzards i'm aware of, just a big lump of cylindrical metal and a motor.
as rolf harris would say, "are you under age?" oops not that quote i meant the other one "can ya giss what it is yet?" ;D
ps $3200 USD or there about plus everything else on top.
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A rug wringer or washer.... I knew as soon as you said the size :)
At first I thought it was an old soviet Intercontinental missile which is about the same dimensions but I thought why do you need one of them, then it came to me......a big rug wringer
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Have you asked Dave at Big clean or Nick at Solutions. I think he has recently brought one in.
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Thats why i just want someone to do the lot for me. sent a few messages but not getting any replies. Probably because i sound like an idiot as ive no idea what to ask. ;D
no hazzards i'm aware of, just a big lump of cylindrical metal and a motor.
as rolf harris would say, "are you under age?" oops not that quote i meant the other one "can ya giss what it is yet?" ;D
ps $3200 USD or there about plus everything else on top.
Dunno why its priced in USD coming from Turkey but I am sure they have their reasons! USD is on its ar5e at the moment but assuming you get around 1.40$ to the £ and customs use around the same rate for VAT you can normally work on around 6% Commodity Code Tax so that equates to
$3200 / 1.40 x 6% + = Around £2425 + VAT = £2910 + Insurance for £2500 replacement value usually about £150 + Shipping?? Best educated guess around £250-£400 so worst case scenario would be £3400-£3600 Landed ;D All guess work cos I have never imported from Turkey! There could also be a bit more hidden taxes on it because they are not in the EU either??? It may also be part Hazardous depending on what they send with the Motor or if it has any fluids already in it???
Good Luck!!!
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Have you asked Dave at Big clean or Nick at Solutions. I think he has recently brought one in.
i think dave at the big clean has packed in, website has been down for years, and just not a fan of nick so wouldnt even consider approaching him.
Mike, maybe a soviet rocket would be cheaper and its the right shape , dya think we could fashion a rug ringer out of it with a few modifications, ? ;D
Kevin.
all ready done the maths matey, its the logistics i asked for help about,
still not had anything back off the ones i emailed. might need to call and ask.
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Have you tried these
http://www.atanak.com/
They do all take a while to come back in fairness
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Cheers Kev.
That cant be right, just used the above calculator, istanbul to crewe, 900 kilos 4CBM and it came back as 300 . I'm guessing thats pounds. ??? :o
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Cheers Kev.
That cant be right, just used the above calculator, istanbul to crewe, 900 kilos 4CBM and it came back as 300 . I'm guessing thats pounds. ??? :o
Why not? I guessed at £250-400 ! £300 is very reasonable IMO
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Cheers Kev.
That cant be right, just used the above calculator, istanbul to crewe, 900 kilos 4CBM and it came back as 300 . I'm guessing thats pounds. ??? :o
Why not? I guessed at £250-400 ! £300 is very reasonable IMO
I'm guessing around the £1000 mark, i will let you know when the time comes.
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What just for shipping??? I only paid just over that to ship 6 full size pallets of Klindex equipment over from Italy last week that was nearly 8 cubic metres and over 2 tonnes in weight
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What just for shipping??? I only paid just over that to ship 6 full size pallets of Klindex equipment over from Italy last week that was nearly 8 cubic metres and over 2 tonnes in weight
Never thought i'd hear myself say this but i do hope your right Kev ;D
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Takes 10 weeks to get a transit van back from turkey. L2 transit has a load length of 3.5m but it would fit into a L3. If you don't get any luck I have a friend that works for a freight import clearance firm
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Have you tried these
http://www.atanak.com/
They do all take a while to come back in fairness
As per our telecom, price for collecting Istanbul to delivery Cheshire
for a machine @ 400x120x120, approx. 600 kgs would be
Freight £675.00
Customs clearance £45.00,
VAT ( @20%)
Use of deferment ( facility of using our deferment account with HMRC) is min £30, or 2% of the VAT amount
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So have you gone ahead and bought it? ???
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No Kev, still unsure as to what to expect with importing so am getting as much info as possible, i will be doing though. Need to speak to a guy that has imported pretty much the same thing from the same company, he had problems with the haulage company, they bent the legs on the machine and everyone denied responibility which is typical. anyway he straightened out the leg himself and all seems to be fine.
I still need to find out about import vat and how to pay because i'm not VAT registered i think i need an ERN or ERO number or something like that.
Research research research then i'll get it ordered. no real rush but would like one in the next month or so.
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What is it?
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No Kev, still unsure as to what to expect with importing so am getting as much info as possible, i will be doing though. Need to speak to a guy that has imported pretty much the same thing from the same company, he had problems with the haulage company, they bent the legs on the machine and everyone denied responibility which is typical. anyway he straightened out the leg himself and all seems to be fine.
I still need to find out about import vat and how to pay because i'm not VAT registered i think i need an ERN or ERO number or something like that.
Research research research then i'll get it ordered. no real rush but would like one in the next month or so.
Derek
Don't let little things put you off. You just insure it with the shipping company like for like replacement then they pay the VAT and charge you £30 or 2% for the privelege it's that easy really. Then you will have it in time for the TACCA Day ;D
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I'm sure it is that simple Kev, but i just like to know the ins and outs before i jump in.
No phase 3 at crewe alexandra football stadium so it would be no use there. Plus we have a full agenda with a waiting list so no room for my centrifuge.
Got some serious players coming this year, and well over 100 tickets all ready sold so its gonna be massive. Cant wait, love the tacca days.
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I'm sure it is that simple Kev, but i just like to know the ins and outs before i jump in.
No phase 3 at crewe alexandra football stadium so it would be no use there. Plus we have a full agenda with a waiting list so no room for my centrifuge.
Got some serious players coming this year, and well over 100 tickets all ready sold so its gonna be massive. Cant wait, love the tacca days.
Luckily I am away on a well deserved break that weekend which I will thoroughly be looking forward to after working at the ISSA in Amsterdam for 5 days and dealing with 1000's of customers. Perhaps you should look at taking a TACCA stand at Amsterdam that may boost membership? They are expecting around 30,000 visitors a day this year I think! I could have a word for you if you're interested? After all that is exactly how ISSA Interclean started and developed into the massive event it is today. It was a couple of like minded guys in a cafe, window cleaners I think in 1967 ;D ;D ;D
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Would love to go ISSA. Maybe next time but not to promote TACCA, . and who knows, in 48 years time TACCA training days might be attracting 30,000 attendees ;D
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Hey Derek - if that happens I will go fgor a career change and move into Hog Roasts!!!
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Hey Derek - if that happens I will go fgor a career change and move into Hog Roasts!!!
;D
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Looks like i'm driving to ISSA Interclean, see ya there Kev ;D
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Why don't you just fly????
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Why don't you just fly????
I'm picking up a centrifuge and i'm prety sure it won't get passed as hand luggage ;D
depending on the cost of a van it should be a lot cheaper and i get to have a look round and buy some other stuff while i'm there.
"SHOPPING TRIP " only instead of a bag for life i can fill a long transit ;D
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Why don't you just fly????
I'm picking up a centrifuge and i'm prety sure it won't get passed as hand luggage ;D
depending on the cost of a van it should be a lot cheaper and i get to have a look round and buy some other stuff while i'm there.
"SHOPPING TRIP " only instead of a bag for life i can fill a long transit ;D
Wow! That's going to cost a few quid on the ferry isn't it? Which way you going?
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van is working out as the expensive bit, ferry from hull is £200 return, diesel is about £50 but so far the van rental is coming in at £380 :o
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van is working out as the expensive bit, ferry from hull is £200 return, diesel is about £50 but so far the van rental is coming in at £380 :o
There is something wrong with those ferry prices? Where did you get them from? My freight costs are usually a lot higher than what you have posted???
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your right kev, just realised that price is for Harwich :-[
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Don't forget you have to travel as freight. You can't use car /van rates as it is a commercial import.
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Don't forget you have to travel as freight. You can't use car /van rates as it is a commercial import.
will check it out cheers kev.
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P&O North Sea Route especially are red hot on it. If you travel with a van you have to prove you are not carrying commercial goods either way. I got caught about 8 years ago genuinely not realising because we had 6 seater crew cabs Renault Traffic & Vivaros at the time and i travelled out with 4 staff to a German Stone Show then on the way back from the Trip I picked up from one of our suppliers and brought back 8 wet vacs thinking I was saving myself €160 shipping and they hit me for £360 Freight costs One Way. Lesson learned ??? ???
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surely i just declare whatever i'm bringng in? and then pay the VAT using my EORI number?
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I am not talking about EORI numbers I am only talking about the ferry operators here. If you travel with commercial goods you have to travel as freight. The EORI, commodity codes and VAT import and duties have nothing to do with the ferry companies that is all HMRC. The person who deals with the import documents deals with all that jazz
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Hey Derek. I was subbing today for a guy at BNI and they had a specialist freight company there. I had a word with them and they said that dealing with Turkey was a nightmare.
Customs is a lottery as they sometimes do not release the items on time from the freight compound so you end up being turned away
- They felt it was better to sub contract it via a shipping agent and get it delivered in a container for that sort of size and get it added to more freight as a larger "parcel" of goods.
Asked then who would be the best sub contractor they said that they would go through DHL
They also said that it would not be cheap and that if you were importing it then they hoped that you were really saving on the deal price to offset the costs of importation.I know that you may have changed your thinking but I am only posting the information on here to help others who are thinking of going down your route (or not!)