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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: chris turner on February 19, 2016, 09:08:17 am

Title: FAO kempy
Post by: chris turner on February 19, 2016, 09:08:17 am
What's the difference between vision e and vision v2?
I will need to order some more soon, not sure which to go for.
Also when will you have the uni-valve back in stock.
Cheers
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: SeanK on February 19, 2016, 09:19:21 am
Vision one is aimed at the extremely gullible and V2 is trying to lure those that would be slightly less so, it causes the water to
bubble and is milky in colour.
The univalve can be bought from a number of places but I think they are all out of stock so cant help you with that one.

Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: jk999 on February 19, 2016, 09:28:45 am
Seank.why  are you always such a MODDED why are people gullible  because they buy vision
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: SeanK on February 19, 2016, 10:03:40 am
Seank.why  are you always such a dck why are people gullible  because they buy vision


Because it doesn't do anything other than cause the water to bubble mate, and I have tried it so I include myself on that
gullible list.
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: robert mitchell on February 19, 2016, 10:30:54 am
Sean k , did kempy spurn your advances or something ?

I like vision , lots of people like it , you don't like and we all know that .

Stop acting like a bitchy 12 year old girl, grow a pair and accept that not everyone agrees with you  ::)roll
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: chris turner on February 19, 2016, 11:11:50 am
Vision one is aimed at the extremely gullible and V2 is trying to lure those that would be slightly less so, it causes the water to
bubble and is milky in colour.
The univalve can be bought from a number of places but I think they are all out of stock so cant help you with that one.

I knew you'd be along to answer  :-*
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: kempy on February 19, 2016, 11:24:17 am
Hi Chris my mobile is 07979966041 if you want to text me and chat .
Best this way as SeanK has demonstrated that his just a annoying person answering a FAO KEMPY Post .

Maybe CIU may have a word with this one dimensional person .... Lol

Everyone is entitled to a view or opinion , but I think his got mental issues now

Laughable .
But it's entertainment , lol
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: kempy on February 19, 2016, 11:25:03 am
If I post on here the visionV2 characteristics of VisionE .
It will only get over scrutinised etc
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: kempy on February 19, 2016, 11:41:23 am
VisionV2   ;Chris has had great reviews by 99% of the users I'd say , maybe 100% ..

Just  1 negative review from a bloke called SpecialK , who hasn't used it ...

 ;D ;D

Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: SeanK on February 19, 2016, 12:27:44 pm
VisionV2   ;Chris has had great reviews by 99% of the users I'd say , maybe 100% ..

Just  1 negative review from a bloke called SpecialK , who hasn't used it ...

 ;D ;D

And wont be either, fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: SeanK on February 19, 2016, 12:34:55 pm
Hi Chris my mobile is 07979966041 if you want to text me and chat .
Best this way as SeanK has demonstrated that his just a annoying person answering a FAO KEMPY Post .

Maybe CIU may have a word with this one dimensional person .... Lol

Everyone is entitled to a view or opinion , but I think his got mental issues now

Laughable .
But it's entertainment , lol


Mate the CIU like most on here find your product to be nothing more than a joke why else do they take no notice of the
constant plugging/free advertising.
By the way did you not answer a FAO Seank post just recently. ;D
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Mick Kent on February 19, 2016, 12:39:33 pm
Vision for me does nothing that pure cant do by itself. I had no differences apart from bubbles. Wet windows always shine so no difference their either. I didnt notice a scent. I had more results adding viakal to water to remove limescale deposits on a large commercial clean which actualy did work.
I joined the mugs paying for something thats not needed which all it does is line the owner's pockets! Defo wont be getting anymore!

Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: SeanK on February 19, 2016, 01:13:36 pm
Sean k , did kempy spurn your advances or something ?

I like vision , lots of people like it , you don't like and we all know that .

Stop acting like a bitchy 12 year old girl, grow a pair and accept that not everyone agrees with you  ::)roll

I honestly don't care if you like it or not mate just don't come on here and tell me it does something it doesn't, I would be doing
the exact same if there where hundreds of threads started every year on here about parts per billion machines working miracles so Kempy or somebody agreeing with me has nothing to do with it.
So dry your eyes and use what ever you want.
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: robert mitchell on February 19, 2016, 01:37:47 pm
Sean k , did kempy spurn your advances or something ?

I like vision , lots of people like it , you don't like and we all know that .

Stop acting like a bitchy 12 year old girl, grow a pair and accept that not everyone agrees with you  ::)roll

I honestly don't care if you like it or not mate just don't come on here and tell me it does something it doesn't, I would be doing
the exact same if there where hundreds of threads started every year on here about parts per billion machines working miracles so Kempy or somebody agreeing with me has nothing to do with it.
So dry your eyes and use what ever you want.


Have you ever seen the film frozen ?

let it go ......let it gooooo !
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: chris turner on February 19, 2016, 01:38:26 pm
VisionV2   ;Chris has had great reviews by 99% of the users I'd say , maybe 100% ..

Just  1 negative review from a bloke called SpecialK , who hasn't used it ...

 ;D ;D

Cheers kempy, il be getting some more soon, it's great stuff ;)

Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: SeanK on February 19, 2016, 02:38:14 pm
Sean k , did kempy spurn your advances or something ?

I like vision , lots of people like it , you don't like and we all know that .

Stop acting like a bitchy 12 year old girl, grow a pair and accept that not everyone agrees with you  ::)roll

I honestly don't care if you like it or not mate just don't come on here and tell me it does something it doesn't, I would be doing
the exact same if there where hundreds of threads started every year on here about parts per billion machines working miracles so Kempy or somebody agreeing with me has nothing to do with it.
So dry your eyes and use what ever you want.


Have you ever seen the film frozen ?

let it go ......let it gooooo !

Funny how you mention that film, did you know they put Vision in the water before freezing it to make the ice shinier.
Just a fact you might find interesting. ;D
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 19, 2016, 03:52:00 pm
Sean k , did kempy spurn your advances or something ?

I like vision , lots of people like it , you don't like and we all know that .

Stop acting like a bitchy 12 year old girl, grow a pair and accept that not everyone agrees with you  ::)roll

I honestly don't care if you like it or not mate just don't come on here and tell me it does something it doesn't, I would be doing
the exact same if there where hundreds of threads started every year on here about parts per billion machines working miracles so Kempy or somebody agreeing with me has nothing to do with it.
So dry your eyes and use what ever you want.


Have you ever seen the film frozen ?

let it go ......let it gooooo !

Too funny.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: SeanK on February 19, 2016, 04:04:38 pm
I wonder when Vision will make this list ? WARNING VISION USERS DO NOT WATCH.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7kJdvlK85Q
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 19, 2016, 04:28:09 pm
I wonder when Vision will make this list ? WARNING VISION USERS DO NOT WATCH.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7kJdvlK85Q

So are you saying Vision is a scam?
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Rich Wilts on February 19, 2016, 04:47:26 pm
Apparently jigsaw innovations will be bringing their latest innovation to the market within a few short weeks.

A version of Vision called Loseweightfastinthreeshortweeksintimeforyourholiday/wedding2Vision. It's a diet/slimming version of Vision.

After that he's moving to Nigeria.

And I think we all know why.

He's looking for someone whose bank account he can use to offload $10,000,000 in to. Unfortunately he'll need a Money Transfer first from your bank account into his for £419.00 to facilitate the deal. Apparently after the war, which war'm not sure but it was a war where some obscure Nigerian politician left $10,000,000 unclaimed in a bank account before he died.  Sadly.

Then, he's coming back to the UK to flog double glazing. Then timeshare, then houses ;)
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 19, 2016, 04:50:19 pm
Send me some. Just enough to treat, say 2000 litres.

I'll sneak it in Dan the Man's tank without him knowing and at the end of the week I'll ask him if he or his customers have commented on the quality of the clean. If he says "Yeah my brush seems more slippy and their windows gleam more." then we have one answer.

If he says "No but my water seems bubbly for some reason." Then we have another answer.

And if he says "No. Why should they?" We have another answer.

I've offered to do this before. It is a genuine offer and I cannot see why it would not be a good idea for anyone unbiased to hear the results of.

If I was confident in my product I'd do it.
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 19, 2016, 05:05:33 pm
Send me some. Just enough to treat, say 2000 litres.

I'll sneak it in Dan the Man's tank without him knowing and at the end of the week I'll ask him if he or his customers have commented on the quality of the clean. If he says "Yeah my brush seems more slippy and their windows gleam more." then we have one answer.

If he says "No but my water seems bubbly for some reason." Then we have another answer.

And if he says "No. Why should they?" We have another answer.

I've offered to do this before. It is a genuine offer and I cannot see why it would not be a good idea for anyone unbiased to hear the results of.

If I was confident in my product I'd do it.

More than happy to send you some Gold :)
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Shane sharples on February 19, 2016, 06:12:39 pm
Iv got a couple bottles on me garage floor , think I used a couple of medicine spoons full out of 1 and other is full if you want them mr gold
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: SeanK on February 19, 2016, 06:22:45 pm
Granville put in some GG4 or HG window cleaner, the results will be the exact same.
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 19, 2016, 06:30:06 pm
I wonder when Vision will make this list ? WARNING VISION USERS DO NOT WATCH.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7kJdvlK85Q

So are you saying Vision is a scam?
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: SeanK on February 19, 2016, 07:15:05 pm
I wonder when Vision will make this list ? WARNING VISION USERS DO NOT WATCH.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7kJdvlK85Q

So are you saying Vision is a scam?

Don't try and be smart, I'm a window cleaner not a solicitor it would be up to Trading Standards to decide if it a scam or not.  ::)roll
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 19, 2016, 07:17:12 pm
I wonder when Vision will make this list ? WARNING VISION USERS DO NOT WATCH.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7kJdvlK85Q

So are you saying Vision is a scam?

Don't try and be smart, I'm a window cleaner not a solicitor it would be up to Trading Standards to decide if it a scam or not.  ::)roll

Are you a window cleaner?  ::)roll
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: jk999 on February 19, 2016, 07:32:34 pm
No he is just a serial moaner I bet he stands outside bnq with quarter light and tries to stop people buying karcher window Vacs
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Jonny 87 on February 19, 2016, 08:05:25 pm
I wonder when Vision will make this list ? WARNING VISION USERS DO NOT WATCH.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7kJdvlK85Q

So are you saying Vision is a scam?

Don't try and be smart, I'm a window cleaner not a solicitor it would be up to Trading Standards to decide if it a scam or not.  ::)roll

Are you a window cleaner?  ::)roll

 ;D ;D ;D

Probably cleans his own windows every 8 weeks just to feel like he can have freeness of speech.
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: kempy on February 19, 2016, 08:39:59 pm
Amazing .
Get a hobby ?
Entertain family ?
Work more ?

Constantly going on and on .

Yes you don't like it , a few don't .
Plenty do like .

But why go on and on .
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: jk999 on February 19, 2016, 08:43:02 pm
Probably got nowt better to do
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: SeanK on February 19, 2016, 08:50:42 pm
Amazing .
Get a hobby ?
Entertain family ?
Work more ?

Constantly going on and on .

Yes you don't like it , a few don't .
Plenty do like .

But why go on and on .

Exactly, constantly plugging and harping on about results that only the same guys seem to see and get, I can clean with
pure on its own you cant, so what.
Lets all move on.
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on February 19, 2016, 09:04:25 pm
Amazing .
Get a hobby ?
Entertain family ?
Work more ?

Constantly going on and on .

Yes you don't like it , a few don't .
Plenty do like .

But why go on and on .

Jealousy?
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: SeanK on February 19, 2016, 09:14:15 pm
Amazing .
Get a hobby ?
Entertain family ?
Work more ?

Constantly going on and on .

Yes you don't like it , a few don't .
Plenty do like .

But why go on and on .

Jealousy?

There are plenty on here I could be jealous off if I was that way inclined, Kempy would be well down on the list
but feel free to think its jealousy if you so wish.
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: kempy on February 19, 2016, 09:59:45 pm
No need to be jealous . It's not a massive money earner . I only sell a few products that's all .
Yes it's a business to make money , just like my window cleaning business . To provide for family like we all do .
It's growing nicely . But I'll still be cleaning windows 5 days a week .

Can't CIU  just ban all vision posts ???
Positive ones and negative ones ?

And let's just get back to a good informative forum that definitely helped me massively several years a go .

I can't help persons posting positivity or negativity about my product .
I've always said it won't be for everyone .

Please move on , myself Included .

Let's get back to giving informative and giving useful advice.

??
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: NWH on February 19, 2016, 10:32:09 pm
Dave you know that new Range Rover Autobiography you've got with the number plate V15ION I'm thinking of getting one m8 if I can have a drive of yours first I'd appreciate it. Thanks lol 😂😂
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Rich Wilts on February 19, 2016, 10:39:26 pm
Please move on , myself Included .

Go on then. No need to ask permission if you think you should.
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: chris turner on February 19, 2016, 11:06:14 pm
Sorry kempy I should of just messaged you directly ;D
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: NBwcs on February 20, 2016, 12:16:16 am
Not interested in using vision as an additive  for poleing, dont feel i need to but i am curious as to whether its any good for trad when used in the same ratio as its mixed for wfp. Does it have enough slide and bubbles so you can see where youve been? If used in the same ratio then presumably it does away with the need for detailing which would be very useful. Anyone tried?
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: kempy on February 20, 2016, 12:37:24 am
It's had good reviews when used trad .
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Dave Willis on February 20, 2016, 06:42:18 am
Not interested in using vision as an additive  for poleing, dont feel i need to but i am curious as to whether its any good for trad when used in the same ratio as its mixed for wfp. Does it have enough slide and bubbles so you can see where youve been? If used in the same ratio then presumably it does away with the need for detailing which would be very useful. Anyone tried?

I don't think anything will do away with detailing completely other than better technique. It is after all dirty water that's left at the edges after squeegying off.
Not sure why the attacks on Kempy are so  nasty to be honest. His product does more or less what's claimed. Other products do similar. The majority who've bought the stuff seem happy and return for more. I think if you found something detrimental with it then fair enough but there's nothing bad to say about it really. The guy's just trying to make a business he believes in I honestly don't think he's in it to scam people. If you believe he is then don't buy any.
You could ask for your money back I suppose if you felt that strongly about it.
Best thing Kempy can do is simply not get involved with the baiting and not to actively push it on here as I think that's what gets some peoples backs up.
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 20, 2016, 07:27:49 am
David hasn't created threads or used click bait or any other underhand tactic which I know of.

Some people just have nothing better todo. Like me posting on here at 7 in the morning FFS.
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Shane sharples on February 20, 2016, 07:54:28 am
I don't hear Alex shooting down people who don't like his products , in fact he never tells people to MOVE ON because they don't like his brushes for whatever reason. Kempy keeps saying he's not gonna get involved in threads like these and then comments on every thread that comes up. Everyone has the right to their opinion, kempy YOU have no right to tell people to what to do
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 20, 2016, 07:57:47 am
He can't help himself lol.

It's sooooo easy to get him to bite. Thing is. Truth be known.  Vision is really starting to snowball on Facebook now and getting lots of interest.

Vision costs me nothing per year to run (no I don't get it free) so long may it contuine.

Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: kempy on February 20, 2016, 08:20:12 am
KEMPY has regularly said some persons won't like it .
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 20, 2016, 09:57:14 am
@Kempy

Some on here have offered me some vision for me to put in DtM's tank as a "blind test."

Obviously I would prefer you to give me exact instructions. When I get it how much vision should I put in DtM's tank of water? It's 400Litres.

Also I provide him water at between 000 and 005 after it has been through resin - he does not polish his water on board, it is done by me prior to going into the static tanks.

Any other observations so that I do the test in accord with the maker's guidelines?


Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: SeanK on February 20, 2016, 10:04:36 am
Not interested in using vision as an additive  for poleing, dont feel i need to but i am curious as to whether its any good for trad when used in the same ratio as its mixed for wfp. Does it have enough slide and bubbles so you can see where youve been? If used in the same ratio then presumably it does away with the need for detailing which would be very useful. Anyone tried?

I don't think anything will do away with detailing completely other than better technique. It is after all dirty water that's left at the edges after squeegying off.
Not sure why the attacks on Kempy are so  nasty to be honest. His product does more or less what's claimed. Other products do similar. The majority who've bought the stuff seem happy and return for more. I think if you found something detrimental with it then fair enough but there's nothing bad to say about it really. The guy's just trying to make a business he believes in I honestly don't think he's in it to scam people. If you believe he is then don't buy any.
You could ask for your money back I suppose if you felt that strongly about it.
Best thing Kempy can do is simply not get involved with the baiting and not to actively push it on here as I think that's what gets some peoples backs up.

Show me the attacks on Kempy and then show me which ones are nasty ? the truth is that the majority of nasty replies
on this subject come from Kempy's so called independent users.
Answer this question, if this product works then why cant everybody see the results ?
Do you need a certain type of eye ?
Is being mixed wrong ?
Does it only work on certain types of window such as the ones you clean ?
Do you need to believe in it before you can see it working ?
Does it only work in a certain climate ?
The fact is when you where using GG4 you honestly couldn't see if it made any difference never mind some of the claims
Vision make and now it does everything that's claimed of it.
Its not about liking it its about does it do what it says, so again I ask you why isn't  everybody seeing the results that you see ?



Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: kempy on February 20, 2016, 01:07:33 pm
Granville , my
Mobile is 07979966041 and I can text or phone call and chat .

It's the best way as I've stopped posting directly about Vision .
If I post , it doesn't go down well and everything gets twisted and over analysed .
If I state  or post anything then it just leads to a certain individual getting upset .

Happy to respond by text or talk
Regards
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: SeanK on February 20, 2016, 01:14:10 pm
Granville , my
Mobile is 07979966041 and I can text or phone call and chat .

It's the best way as I've stopped posting directly about Vision .
If I post , it doesn't go down well and everything gets twisted and over analysed .
If I state  or post anything then it just leads to a certain individual getting upset .

Happy to respond by text or talk
Regards
::)roll
Granville you add 1ml to 100litres if its the old stuff and I think its 2ml for the new milky stuff, its on the website.
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: Dave Willis on February 20, 2016, 02:44:31 pm
Not interested in using vision as an additive  for poleing, dont feel i need to but i am curious as to whether its any good for trad when used in the same ratio as its mixed for wfp. Does it have enough slide and bubbles so you can see where youve been? If used in the same ratio then presumably it does away with the need for detailing which would be very useful. Anyone tried?

I don't think anything will do away with detailing completely other than better technique. It is after all dirty water that's left at the edges after squeegying off.
Not sure why the attacks on Kempy are so  nasty to be honest. His product does more or less what's claimed. Other products do similar. The majority who've bought the stuff seem happy and return for more. I think if you found something detrimental with it then fair enough but there's nothing bad to say about it really. The guy's just trying to make a business he believes in I honestly don't think he's in it to scam people. If you believe he is then don't buy any.
You could ask for your money back I suppose if you felt that strongly about it.
Best thing Kempy can do is simply not get involved with the baiting and not to actively push it on here as I think that's what gets some peoples backs up.

Show me the attacks on Kempy and then show me which ones are nasty ? the truth is that the majority of nasty replies
on this subject come from Kempy's so called independent users.
Answer this question, if this product works then why cant everybody see the results ?
Do you need a certain type of eye ?
Is being mixed wrong ?
Does it only work on certain types of window such as the ones you clean ?
Do you need to believe in it before you can see it working ?
Does it only work in a certain climate ?
The fact is when you where using GG4 you honestly couldn't see if it made any difference never mind some of the claims
Vision make and now it does everything that's claimed of it.
Its not about liking it its about does it do what it says, so again I ask you why isn't  everybody seeing the results that you see ?

Already done an honest review of it - buggered if I'm going to argue with you Sean.
Title: Re: FAO kempy
Post by: the king on February 20, 2016, 06:39:44 pm
i cant beleve this is still on going lol if u like it buy it if u dont dont lol if u like a topic post and injoy if u dont just dont bother reading it and posting lol its that simple  ;D