Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: kempy on February 15, 2016, 07:37:22 am
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Hi
Never used a back pack , but I do have a few properties that would benefit from no trailing hoses etc .
Who uses them and advice please
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Hi
Never used a back pack , but I do have a few properties that would benefit from no trailing hoses etc .
Who uses them and advice please
Acouple of suggestions:
I've used different ones. The best I've come across is the version 3 sold by gardiners at
http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pure-water-systems/portable-systems/the-gardiner-backpack.html
I've no idea if there are better, but I've had four different types down the years and this one has easily been the best of them. It gives more control options over the flow rate and the handle is not an integral part of the lid as on an earlier model (that was not a good idea IMO). If using it a lot, some kind of trolley may be advisable.
Also, when using a backpack, it can be a big help if you have an extra long piece of pole hose ready for a quick swap because it's possible to clean a whole house without moving the backpack - obviously assuming that the property isn't massive.
I'm sure others will add to this.
EDIT: If I need to stop the water part way through a job, I tend to use the switch on the backpack in order to avoid pump judder.
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Always used backpacks,my son still uses one all day gardeners v3 Deff the one you want.
Use about 60ft extra pole hose but that's for all day use
I have a gardeners flow tap on it as well
Holds a charge for weeks and if used all day will re charge in couple hrs
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How long can you use that V3 one before you need to charge it
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Backpacks/trolleys do have their limited uses and have their unique set of pro’/con’s too. I suppose it depends on the work you want to take on as if it’s still worth the hassle to do in the first place really.
After using a pf trolley when I first started and found it to be a real ball ache to use I never really wanted to go back to using one for domestic wfp work after getting tanks fitted to the vans.
I believe smudger made a couple of large trolley systems for large inner courtyard jobs that he won to overcome the issue of trailing houses through the buildings but I’m sure it paid him handsomely for the hassle
After saying that I would not mess about with a backpack/trolley taking it through someones house now. It seems quite common to see backpack newbies clambering over garages, pitched/ flat roofs, locked gates, fences etc with a full backpack strapped to their back...Bless em :P
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How long can you use that V3 one before you need to charge it
I think you will find they are best charged up after use daily to maintain the battery properly
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Thanks for the advice , just got a few houses where it might be beneficial to use one .
50/50 , may get one .
Or just plod on , lol
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Thanks for the advice , just got a few houses where it might be beneficial to use one .
50/50 , may get one .
Or just plod on , lol
If I ever do well paid one off's now with no back access apart from through the house I just ask them to put towles down and run me hose through...no messing. ;D
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V3 backpack mine finally died Gardiners very helpful now lays in shed awaiting a rainy day but at £85 plus vat went and brought another v3
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How long can you use that V3 one before you need to charge it
well it says up to 9 hrs but i charge mine every night,
but ive charged it then not used it for 2 weeks & its lasted all day from that charge
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Wouldn't be without my backpack. Run through rather than go all the way round alley gates. Or go though rather than trail the hose through, even when they're fine with a trailing hose, i still prefer not to do that where possible. Parking over other side of road and need to clean a shop sign, when i can trad the actual window. Loads of reasons to have one.
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Do you get a flow rate similar to that from a van system?
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Do you get a flow rate similar to that from a van system?
Exactly the same.
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Defo worth having one or a trolley. Or best of both worlds a backpack and an alloy sack truck to stick it on when needed.
Ideal for nipping through houses or backs of terraced.
They can actually be quicker than van mount when working in a street where you do a few houses but out of range of van mount to save reeling in and moving van (trolley obv)
But the best reason for one is for conservatory jobs that have no back access.
They come in handy and for under 100 quid is daft not to get one imo.
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I haven't a van mount, only a car,
So could I buy bag pack n use water bales to carry in my car and fill it up? Obviously using pure water??
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you can indeed, although you will soon be screaming for a van mount after constant filling and humping and swearing ;D
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How long can you use that V3 one before you need to charge it
I've worked a full day with it before now without it showing signs of running down. Probably better to charge it each night, just in case.
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I haven't a van mount, only a car,
So could I buy bag pack n use water bales to carry in my car and fill it up? Obviously using pure water??
thats how i started out, did it for years , hard hard work
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I only use a back pack and barrels and have done so for the last 5 years...I have no problems working
this way, if you are not used to manual handling or have any physical problems it may not be advisable
For me window cleaning is the easiest work I have ever done.
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Thanks for replies.
I will give it a go.
So all I need to buy is bag pack, hose, resin , wfp and water bales??
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i have the gardiners v2 backpack(previous version)and its a good piece of kit to have along with a little fold away trolley and a bungee strap.
handy for a few awkward window cleaning jobs.
applying virosol to large upper f/s/g jobs.
comes in handy as an emergency back up system with 4 barrels if my vans off the road(i use my car if van is in the garage or whatever)
i also switch to using around 30m of pole hose on my pole if using it all day then you can leave it in one place for longer. ;)
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Gardiner back pack is the kiddie runs all day on a charge i use mine on a sack truck i got for £14.99from Aldi
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I only use a back pack and barrels and have done so for the last 5 years...I have no problems working
this way, if you are not used to manual handling or have any physical problems it may not be advisable
For me window cleaning is the easiest work I have ever done.
Does it carry 6 litres of water ;D
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I only use a back pack and barrels and have done so for the last 5 years...I have no problems working
this way, if you are not used to manual handling or have any physical problems it may not be advisable
For me window cleaning is the easiest work I have ever done.
i thought walking round wearing a backpack all day & humping 25ltr cannisters was dead easy when i started, and i used a brodex alloy 31ft
i say its hard work now cos i'm comparing it to using a van mount,
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I only use a back pack and barrels and have done so for the last 5 years...I have no problems working
this way, if you are not used to manual handling or have any physical problems it may not be advisable
For me window cleaning is the easiest work I have ever done.
i thought walking round wearing a backpack all day & humping 25ltr cannisters was dead easy when i started, and i used a brodex alloy 31ft
i say its hard work now cos i'm comparing it to using a van mount,
Wearing a back is just silly, pick up put down or stick on trolley, I used a vqnmount for a while
all that hose and snagging drove me mad...went back to a pack
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Wearing a back is just silly, pick up put down or stick on trolley, I used a vqnmount for a while
all that hose and snagging drove me mad...went back to a pack
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with hindsight it is, but at the time it felt easy, after i got a van i shifted it onto a sacktruck which was ok but not good on my bad wrists, the van mount is bliss & i use those slip n slide hose guides so i hardly ever get snags & in 7/8 months ive only gone though 1 bit of dog muck, which was my main fear about a van mount
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Van mount is best and my only way atm , and I'll probably stick with just that .
But once I've bought other stuff then I'll get a back pack