Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: sean oregan on February 07, 2016, 09:52:31 am
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lol
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What did you say?
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Nothing, seriously nothing at all.
All I can think of is someone on here was asking about a new machine and I said Alltec.
I have asked why I have been banned and no response from them I have emailed every day since Monday.
So I take it as I don't mention them they have banned me.
So basically using someone's membership on ct to control what you say on here.
Show's the level of the bloke.
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never read owt youve posted that was bad about solutions mate, problem is you cannot post anything positive about other suppliers either.......... thats the way he works, wont change, i dont miss it at all if im honest.........
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It's a shame mods on here don't ban his IP address to stop him.
But mind you lower ranked wolfs would be telling him what's said on here hoping to rise up the pack order.
#pathetic
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and Nick will be saying he never bans anybody , like he did before to me after banning me previously, then banning me again, i believe its know as an admin error, or website maintenance......... now they will be slagging you off over there as well as me!!!!!
feck em.......
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Ive not been able to log on for about 2 weeks and have tried resetting my password several tines with no success. Ive also emailed with no response so have given up now. All ive mentioned that they prob dont agree with is that i was impressed after cleaning with heat .. gid knows.
I will survive.....
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I see it as less time spent on a forum, which i did use to enjoy and found very helpfull , ( there are some great guys on there),
and more time to spend on marketing, watching porn and looking at clips of cats doing funny things!!!!!!! ;D
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Steve
You mentioned using HEAT how could you!!!!
It's something he don't sell.
Tim
Leave that porn it will turn you blind
Lol
At least now I can say what I think without worrying about offending the precious one lol
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sorry struggling to read this post, can you re post in upper case please...?
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Lol, you will wear that Betamax out
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never read owt youve posted that was bad about solutions mate, problem is you cannot post anything positive about other suppliers either.......... thats the way he works, wont change, i dont miss it at all if im honest.........
I wonder sometimes does solutions loose business because of the tight controls he puts on cleantalk.
I have been banned so don't buy his products anymore but still have some to use up.
There are lots of carpets cleaners who wont and never will buy his product even though they are excellent.
I have replaced the products I received from world of clean with others from chemspec alltec restoromate and others with just has good results if not better at times don't need world of clean.
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Of course he does himself loads of damage if you ask me! Not just the people that stop using Solutions but also the newbies that read the negative comments (and quite rightly so) and also established cleaners who again read the negatives and think "screw buying from him!".
A carpet cleaner is going to experiment with various chems and products sooner or later in his career. They don't need your forum to sabotage their thinking! There are other forums (here), facebook groups, courses and other cleaners that they talk to that are going to mention other products.
Very strange and backward way of doing business IMO.
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yes... for sure, there are chemicals on there which i would like to order, but im not going to............. ill just find something else, its an odd way to run a business but its his train set he knows best....... at the end of the day its never done him any harm, apart from when he went bankrupt....
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Yes Raymondo
I believe lots won't buy from him because of the way he is, some because of more serious reasons that I can't speak about because I don't know full details. I would hate to say something untrue.
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never read owt youve posted that was bad about solutions mate, problem is you cannot post anything positive about other suppliers either.......... thats the way he works, wont change, i dont miss it at all if im honest.........
I wonder sometimes does solutions loose business because of the tight controls he puts on cleantalk.
I have been banned so don't buy his products anymore but still have some to use up.
There are lots of carpets cleaners who wont and never will buy his product even though they are excellent.
I have replaced the products I received from world of clean with others from chemspec alltec restoromate and others with just has good results if not better at times don't need world of clean.
Ditto
I won't buy from them purely because of the way they conduct there business. shame as they have some good products but like has been said, it opens your eyes more to other products and eventually you dont need them.
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I think I have worked it out
I said a while ago that he brought in and he didn't own a chemical plant. He let me on to see his response but then forgot to ban me again after.
I apologised for offending him, low ranked wolfs were name calling but his response proved I was right.
Work with
Access to
Etc
Is not owning
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Sean,
I would doubt that they would ban you for that. Not kidding.
I do believe that I heard they had some sort of problem with the web page. I think it affected a few participants. Last week must have been a dark one because I just read where a couple others web pages were compromised and another was banned from his own page!!!!!
I would try to contact their administrator before a rush to judgement.
Just imho.
Best,
Ed Valentine
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Ed
So why has he ignored my emails and other peoples??
If it's a glitch with site why hasn't he said?
he always using website problems as an excuse but as he has ignored emails about that tells me another story.
He is also a keen "clean it up" reader and everyone on here knows that so why hasn't he said "glitch with CT"?
Plenty of well respected guys on here refuse to buy from him because of his attitude. How many jag sales have they lost because of where they have to buy from.
Anyway that's me done on it
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Sean
why dont you write a review on the two machines and post it on your site? That way if others have the same question as you they can find a answer somewhere else if they search -) you need to be fair in your review as thats what you expect yourself. if people only have one place to go and ask those type of questions the conversation can be controlled you live in a great country that allows you to express your views.
A great way to do this is with a wordpress blog that other like your self can comment on. They are easy to set up. lets not forget google like reviews. so if someone is searching for a product a blog/page like that stands a good chance of being in the results. if you dont want to write it yourself this link below you can find people that for a very low price write it for you. this will work just as good as if you have the comment open on the blog people can write what they think about the product
https://www.freelancer.co.uk (https://www.freelancer.co.uk)
whats really interesting about this kind of thing is that its prospects with the biggest objections that can become loyal customers if you can debate the objections. so if you dont answer these and win them over its can be a lost customer. I am sure that many on here have had the Portable TM talk with prospects and I bet it can go both ways depending on how its handled.
One big thing that I have always thought about this forum is it has a wall around it so google cant index this conversations. unlike other forums in this business that dont. now if this forum is run for the benefit of its owner then thats a massive mistake. and like this case people cant get a balanced view if they dont know this forum is around and that can be many new people coming into the business. that why other forums control things like they do because they know new people will latch onto the first expert they find and if that expert has a vested interest then that benefits them both.
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Sean
why dont you write a review on the two machines and post it on your site? That way if others have the same question as you they can find a answer somewhere else if they search -) you need to be fair in your review as thats what you expect yourself. if people only have one place to go and ask those type of questions the conversation can be controlled you live in a great country that allows you to express your views.
A great way to do this is with a wordpress blog that other like your self can comment on. They are easy to set up. lets not forget google like reviews. so if someone is searching for a product a blog/page like that stands a good chance of being in the results.
whats really interesting about this kind of thing is that its prospects with the biggest objections that can become loyal customers if you can debate the objections. so if you dont answer these and win them over its can be a lost customer. I am sure that many on here have had the Portable TM talk with prospects and I bet it can go both ways depending on how its handled.
One big thing that I have always thought about this forum is it has a wall around it so google cant index this conversations. unlike other forums in this business that dont. now if this forum is run for the benefit of its owner then thats a massive mistake. and like this case people cant get a balanced view if they dont know this forum is around and that can be many new people coming into the business. that why other forums control things like they do because they know new people will latch onto the first expert they find and if that expert has a vested interest then that benefits them both.
So..... WTF has all that crud got to do with Sean being banned from CT??
You don't half spout some narcissistic drivel at times Ian.... ::)roll ::)roll
You do sometimes have interesting things to say and dare I say it... even useful to carpet cleaners sometimes... :o :o
Why would Sean want to do a review on 2 different machines on his website that is for customers?? What possible interest would they have on 2 different machines???
Anyhow I think that all those banned from the other channel are just trouble makers... :P :P
;D ;D
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This has nothing to do with machines!!!!
I only mentioned jag because I know some won't buy from him, so if they wanted a jag where would they get it?
Anyway I ain't interested any more, don't want to go on that site to read the dribble.
Some decent guys on there tho. but that's life.
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Sean;
I can see your frustration, however, only trying to help by a few suggestions/possibilities in an effort to allow the benefit of the doubt before drawing any conclusions.
However, the very best to you and your success. :)
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Ed
Thanks but I think things have gone too far now, if he had emailed me to say I have banned you I wouldn't be so annoyed about it (it's his site he can do anything he wants), like I said earlier show's the level of the bloke.
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Lol Nick never changes
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That was my post to do with using heat lol
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Was it never mind, if the bloke spent more time running his business and less time watching this forum I and many others may still be a customers!!!!!!
#pathetic
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His forum his rules, move on.
Yes I've had log in problems before as well but I don't dwell on it as it becomes personal. With the emergence of social media and other forums there's enough to go on and you'll still see the same people.
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yes... for sure, there are chemicals on there which i would like to order, but im not going to............. ill just find something else, its an odd way to run a business but its his train set he knows best....... at the end of the day its never done him any harm, apart from when he went bankrupt....
To be fair Alltec have been in Liquidation too
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yes... for sure, there are chemicals on there which i would like to order, but im not going to............. ill just find something else, its an odd way to run a business but its his train set he knows best....... at the end of the day its never done him any harm, apart from when he went bankrupt....
To be fair Alltec have been in Liquidation too
Under old regime maybe (I don't know) but
Since Chris and Kerry have taken it over it has gone from strength to strength.
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Nick works on the tribe method of selling as talked about by Seth godin.
He wants followers that are passionate about his products and have the same philosophy as him .
If you as a non follower / conformist don't follow his or his followers mantra then you are not part of the tribe and are likely to be castigated from it when attacking the tribe and its leader .
I think that's how it works , and it's a great working method Apple does it to great affect .
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yes... for sure, there are chemicals on there which i would like to order, but im not going to............. ill just find something else, its an odd way to run a business but its his train set he knows best....... at the end of the day its never done him any harm, apart from when he went bankrupt....
To be fair Alltec have been in Liquidation too
I don't think so, are you not referring to Ashcombe Distributors?
Dave.
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Companies go bust for many reason sometimes a situation out of there control like they are owed a lot of money and that company goes bust so it brings them down.
But some companies go bust as a way of not paying there debts a fresh start go bust on Friday start in the same building on Monday after buying the assets of the previous company.
Also some companies know they are going bust but continue trading and hide the assets away so that the creditors cant get to them.
I know of one business who moved all the equipment and hid it and then the new company started using that equipment.
Whether this happened with suppliers that have been discussed I don't know
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In fairness, ive been told Nick has never been bancrupted, so i should retract my somewhat throw away comment...............
really nowt to do with me how he runs his business as im no longer involved in the forum or
buying any of his products........