Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Steven Biggs on January 30, 2016, 07:39:53 am
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Not something I normally do . But I've got a large detatched bungalow whose windows I've cleaned years . Anyway the old dear asked me to clean all the fascia and guttering . It's not been done in years . So I thought just get the pointer off and some cloths and cleaning product and elbow grease . So which is the best cleaning chemical and cloths to use on mingling plastic. Cheers barry
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tfr or virosol make sure you dilute use a sprayer .if you are wfp spray on have a cuppa then clean it will come off a treat that's what I do
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Steven if she has an outside tap connect it to your reel and pole it, I used to hand clean bungalows just because I didn't
find much difference time wise when using pumped pure from the van, there just wasn't enough pressure.
There's no way I would hand clean one again plus no chemicals needed the tap pressure just blasts them clean with a light scrub.
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Steven if she has an outside tap connect it to your reel and pole it, I used to hand clean bungalows just because I didn't
find much difference time wise when using pumped pure from the van, there just wasn't enough pressure.
There's no way I would hand clean one again plus no chemicals needed the tap pressure just blasts them clean with a light scrub.
I agree with Sean on this one!
Although I would use a chemical. I like Virosol ( neat, sprayed on brush, rub in, clean off).
I've been using Tadghs Nuclean recently which is a metabolic cleaner and the results are excellent. Brings the plastics up really well.
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As SeanK has mentioned using a wfp connected to an outside tap with a high flow rate and brushing is a relatively quick way to remove surface grime, green algae etc. However it will not remove ingrained staining on white plastic gutters, fascias and soffits. Some also use pressure washing method as is quicker but has its drawbacks. Sometimes you can get away just using these methods but if badly discoloured stained plastic still remains visible then the use of chems/upvc cleaners and good old fashioned elbow grease is what is called for to get good results.
Be mindful If using a strong alkaline cleaners like virosol as depending on how strong the mix it can actual stain white plastic and is near impossible to remove.
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Steven if she has an outside tap connect it to your reel and pole it, I used to hand clean bungalows just because I didn't
find much difference time wise when using pumped pure from the van, there just wasn't enough pressure.
There's no way I would hand clean one again plus no chemicals needed the tap pressure just blasts them clean with a light scrub.
I agree with Sean on this one!
Although I would use a chemical. I like Virosol ( neat, sprayed on brush, rub in, clean off).
I've been using Tadghs Nuclean recently which is a metabolic cleaner and the results are excellent. Brings the plastics up really well.
Does Nuclean remove staining (tiger stripes etc) without having to use elbow grease Rigsby?
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This looks like fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmRiTcZt0hg
This one is even better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct4pQswjY98
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Thanks for the feedback . But I'm not gunna use my pole or brush or sprayer . Just wanna keep it simple , like I said get the pointer off , cloths and cleaning stuff . Preferably something I can buy local . Cheers barry . .
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or you can use cif whith a green pan scrub if you want to realy shine it up use t cut works a treat
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If want to do it by hand via ladder and want to get stuff local then try Flash concentrated all purpose cleaner I find works quite well. Also you could try any kind of dish soap or maybe none caustic TFR (trafic film remover)
For staining (tiger stripes) then a UPVC cream cleaner would do
None scratch pot scrubber (the type they sell in packs with white pads and sponge backs)
Magic erasers used wet but don't last very long.
Microfiber cloths
Bucket of hot water
A chepo telescopic brush would also come in handy too
This is another example of simple way to do it if ladder access is an issue using TFR applied with flat long bristle broom and rinsed off with a garden hose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9tRCCtCubI
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virosol and wfp is the easiest quickest way but if you want to make the job longer and harder carry on with a ladder and cloths. ::)roll
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Are you sure Dazmond . You've got a chance to change to change your mind .byyhe way Have you gone back to trad yet . ;D
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Thanks for the feedback . But I'm not gunna use my pole or brush or sprayer . Just wanna keep it simple , like I said get the pointer off , cloths and cleaning stuff . Preferably something I can buy local . Cheers barry . .
How is using wfp NOT simple on gutters and fascias? you can run around the house with your brush on the gutters scrubbing away- how many times are you gonna have to go up and down the ladder? is there a good reason why you want to drag the job out?
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Thanks for the feedback . But I'm not gunna use my pole or brush or sprayer . Just wanna keep it simple , like I said get the pointer off , cloths and cleaning stuff . Preferably something I can buy local . Cheers barry . .
How is using wfp NOT simple on gutters and fascias? you can run around the house with your brush on the gutters scrubbing away- how many times are you gonna have to go up and down the ladder? is there a good reason why you want to drag the job out?
Maybe because the chap wants to try to do it properly the old school way instead of a half arsed job waving a stick about shrek ;D
Anyhow as I say to the ladies you can't beat a good hand job missus when me pole is too big to fit in the gap 8)
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Like dazmond said Virosol & WFP is the best and quickest way to clean Fascia, before i went WFP nearly 4
years ago, i cleaned the SFG on a detached bungalow by hand off a ladder, they were rotten dirty, plus the
windows it took me the best part of an afternoon to finish, i was totally knackered.
since going WFP i have cleaned loads of SFG jobs using virosol & WFP in a fraction of the time it would
against doing it by hand.
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Thanks for the feedback . But I'm not gunna use my pole or brush or sprayer . Just wanna keep it simple , like I said get the pointer off , cloths and cleaning stuff . Preferably something I can buy local . Cheers barry . .
How is using wfp NOT simple on gutters and fascias? you can run around the house with your brush on the gutters scrubbing away- how many times are you gonna have to go up and down the ladder? is there a good reason why you want to drag the job out?
Maybe because the chap wants to try to do it properly the old school way instead of a half arsed job waving a stick about shrek ;D
Anyhow as I say to the ladies you can't beat a good hand job missus when me pole is too big to fit in the gap 8)
🎶"Maybe she's propa fit and he's just wants to hang around all afternoon like flies round $ h i t " 🎶
(That is actually from a rap song)
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If want to do it by hand via ladder and want to get stuff local then try Flash concentrated all purpose cleaner I find works quite well. Also you could try any kind of dish soap or maybe none caustic TFR (trafic film remover)
For staining (tiger stripes) then a UPVC cream cleaner would do
None scratch pot scrubber (the type they sell in packs with white pads and sponge backs)
Magic erasers used wet but don't last very long.
Microfiber cloths
Bucket of hot water
A chepo telescopic brush would also come in handy too
This is another example of simple way to do it if ladder access is an issue using TFR applied with flat long bristle broom and rinsed off with a garden hose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9tRCCtCubI
thats what I want . Nice n simple . Cheers smurf .
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Like dazmond said Virosol & WFP is the best and quickest way to clean Fascia, before i went WFP nearly 4
years ago, i cleaned the SFG on a detached bungalow by hand off a ladder, they were rotten dirty, plus the
windows it took me the best part of an afternoon to finish, i was totally knackered.
since going WFP i have cleaned loads of SFG jobs using virosol & WFP in a fraction of the time it would
against doing it by hand.
yep ive done the same before as well mate.
i dont even plug into customers outside taps either half the time these days.its quicker to just use my pure,its even better if you have hot water.they are a doddle with wfp.
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Are you sure Dazmond . You've got a chance to change to change your mind .byyhe way Have you gone back to trad yet . ;D
;D ;D ;D
ive been wfp nearly 6 years now mate.ive come a long way from my trad days! ;D
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If doing by hand Nuclean and Tadgh's sponge pads .
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i dont think u can beat cleaning upvc buy hand for qualty of finish wfp does a ok job but hand cleaning gives it the xfactor ;D i get its a case wether u wana rush it wfp and do a ok job or hand clean and get it gleaming 8)
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Thanks for the feedback . But I'm not gunna use my pole or brush or sprayer . Just wanna keep it simple , like I said get the pointer off , cloths and cleaning stuff . Preferably something I can buy local . Cheers barry . .
I'm a trad cleaner but have a wfp for fascia jobs that i connect the their mains tap.
why you would want to hand clean this job if you have the kit and advice on how to do it is beyond me, your not keeping it simple, your making it difficult unless there is something about the job you haven't said.
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Agree with king end up with a better job by hand just use pole for awkward bits what does it matter how long it takes if you charge a price what your happy with .
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Thanks for the feedback . But I'm not gunna use my pole or brush or sprayer . Just wanna keep it simple , like I said get the pointer off , cloths and cleaning stuff . Preferably something I can buy local . Cheers barry . .
I'm a trad cleaner but have a wfp for fascia jobs that i connect the their mains tap.
why you would want to hand clean this job if you have the kit and advice on how to do it is beyond me, your not keeping it simple, your making it difficult unless there is something about the job you haven't said.
yes your right . There's something I haven't said . It's because I'm well erm er ya know its a erm oh I daren't say it now . Look just forget it .
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come on problem shared etc
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Ok , problem shared n all that . What it is I haven't said is I just can't wait till February 15 th . Season 6 part b . :P
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If doing by hand Nuclean and Tadgh's sponge pads .
does that stuff work . Cos I used virasol on it and that dosent . Well it couldn't shift the black stripes under the clips .
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hi steve.... to do by hand use mild soapy water (fairy liquid is fine) and non scratch scourers (the white ones), any ingrained marks or staining i use this stuff (i`ve used lots of different cleaners and have found this to be excellent)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SOLVENT-CLEANER-PVC-UPVC-PVCu-WINDOWS-DOORS-CONSERVATORY-FASCIAS-CLEANING-1ltr-/360619622198?hash=item53f69abf36:m:mU27e-Kw_KtvMftyaLTbsKw
i have used WFP to clean Upvc f/s/g in the past, pre-spraying with virosol and from the ground looking up 20ft the results look ok! but on closer inspection it`s suprising how much dirt especially around the brackets and joints is still there, and as already mentioned using WFP won`t remove ingrained staining. i do all my fsg by hand where possible, just the areas that i cant get to with a ladder i will use WFP
tony
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I agree tony . To do a top job you need to get up close . Wfp is ok and can be hard work on fsg . I don't do many , I turn em down . But the ones I do I get the ladders off as long as it's safe .
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I would agree with others if deep cleaning pvc/white painted aluminum etc for most effective results doing it by hand is best by far to really remove old ingrained soils. most effective pads for def on these type surfaces are magic eraser pads used damp in combination with your preferred cleaning chemical/cream/or paste.
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Hi tadgh ,am I right in thinking the nuclean you sell is good to use on conny roofs , glass or polycarbonate as well as fsg . Got quite a few conny roofs lined up March , April time . Might give it a go . How do I buy it .
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Hi tadgh ,am I right in thinking the nuclean you sell is good to use on conny roofs , glass or polycarbonate as well as fsg . Got quite a few conny roofs lined up March , April time . Might give it a go . How do I buy it .
Hi Steven, yes NuClean is a game changer and probably the safest and most effective cleaning solution thats available for cleaning those type surfaces, this metabolic chemistry is new to europe and flying off the shelf so much so that the company who have the distributorship have been completely depleted of their NuClean stock, as we speak its on the ocean and should be available again within two weeks. if you like send me an email to info@jskcleaning.ie and i will keep you posted when its back in stock. cheers Tadgh
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Will send an email and keep me posted when it's available etc . Cheers steven .
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I still clean fascias/soffits/gutters by hand. I use soapy water (Fairy and vinegar) and wipe with an old applicator mop, then use damp and dry microfibre cloths to finish off. If it looks good up close, it's even better from the ground.
John
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i use ubik2000 mixed with fairy and tap water if i get a realy bad one ill use a magic spung to get them gleaming but most of the time the flanallet sheeting is my favurt also i use a ankalad stabliser on high work to take the bounce out the ladder and also stop it sliping on wet decking ect
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also the microlite is very handy when cleaning out gutters buy hand but i now use the vac most of the time
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i use ubik2000 mixed with fairy and tap water if i get a realy bad one ill use a magic spung to get them gleaming but most of the time the flanallet sheeting is my favurt also i use a ankalad stabliser on high work to take the bounce out the ladder and also stop it sliping on wet decking ect
Just to share your above mentioned product is very corrosive if you check out the sds, especially on surfaces like pvc where it can dull frames,soffits,fascias,gutters etc, and will strip the natural sheen from these type surfaces if not used with extreme caution. there are many janitorial suppliers in the UK who can guide you towards cleaning solutions which would not be harsh/aggressive and allow you to clean pvc without causing any detrimental damage. Hope you may find this information to be of benefit. Tadgh
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yes i no it can b harsh but if u dose lite ur ok i never use it neet i dose like 12 leter of water ill add like 300 mill of ubik with a good squart of fairy . just out of intrest what product would u sujust to use on upvc?
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yes i no it can b harsh but if u dose lite ur ok i never use it neet i dose like 12 leter of water ill add like 300 mill of ubik with a good squart of fairy . just out of intrest what product would u sujust to use on upvc?
Any cleaning product that has a pH value of between 7 to 9
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Steven Nuclean is safe on conny roofs its the only stuff I use now will even clean off litchin ( stiffer the brush the better ) you will prob still get odd stains that wont come off guttering but the shine is unbelievable . If you drip it onto windows it wont do any harm I even use it to clean windows trad and as an additive to wfp water .
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Tadgh when you get some more Nuclean in will you email me thanks
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has any one got a link to this nuclean stuff :)
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Talk to tadgh he supplies it ,I am just a happy user .
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i dont think u can beat cleaning upvc buy hand for qualty of finish wfp does a ok job but hand cleaning gives it the xfactor ;D i get its a case wether u wana rush it wfp and do a ok job or hand clean and get it gleaming 8)
wfp and virosol does a good job on add ons and i try and charge as much as i can and clean them in a quick time.i always aim for £50-£60 an hour whether its an old dears bungalow or a millionaires house.
however certain black marks dont come off.this is where magic erasers and cream cleaner come in but unless its ground floor plastic within easy reach i dont bother as i cant be bothered climbing the ladders as it adds a lot of time to a job and it could take you an extra hour to get all the black marks off.(ok if you ve factored this into the price and are charging a really high price)otherwise no.
theres nothing worse than say charging £60 for a UPVC clean and taking 3 hours to clean it cos your messing about cleaning by hand.if you know your gonna get the ladders out then you gotta charge a lot more because its UPVC restoration then.
99% of the time wfp does a perfectly acceptable job.
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Steven Nuclean is safe on conny roofs its the only stuff I use now will even clean off litchin ( stiffer the brush the better ) you will prob still get odd stains that wont come off guttering but the shine is unbelievable . If you drip it onto windows it wont do any harm I even use it to clean windows trad and as an additive to wfp water .
So paulben, are you really saying Nuclean does not remove common tiger stripes found on a lot of old fascias etc and badly stained/discoloured plastics then?
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Steven Nuclean is safe on conny roofs its the only stuff I use now will even clean off litchin ( stiffer the brush the better ) you will prob still get odd stains that wont come off guttering but the shine is unbelievable . If you drip it onto windows it wont do any harm I even use it to clean windows trad and as an additive to wfp water .
So paulben, are you really saying Nuclean does not remove common tiger stripes found on a lot of old fascias etc and badly stained/discolured plastics then?
What does Smurf ? Iv tried a number of different products over the years but haven't found anything yet that will remove all
ingrained marks on upvc without polishing, Like Dazmond I charge to clean the fascia's but if I factored in extra time for
polishing out all the ingrained marks then I wouldn't get the job or get at a price worthwhile.
You can polish them from the ground ( pole fixi clamp and pad ) but its time consuming.
Then you have aluminium gutters and fascia's once they get corroded there's nothing you can do to remove the marks other than repaint.
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Reason why I ask I've not found an off the shelf product yet as a pre treatment good enough on really bad plastic restoration jobs. Meaning that does a thorough job removing tiger stripes/discoloured and stained plastic quickly without having to use different products by hand/pole that takes a lot more time and effort to do so.
Seank, I'm still searching for the holly grail of chems so to speak. I'm also very doubtful if neclean is the anwser to my quest for plastic restoration work as it sounds like a load of metabolics to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiTe0Eq55uE
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Did a gutter job today came up lovely and clean . Will not get all marks that have been on gutter for years . Does Virsol or ubik , and how safe are they if you get dilution rates wrong . Nuclean washes off have even accidently knocked some undiluted into fish pond no harm done ( not much ) how would fish have been with other chemicals
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Reason why I ask I've not found an off the shelf product yet as a pre treatment good enough on really bad plastic restoration jobs. Meaning that does a thorough job removing tiger stripes/discoloured and stained plastic quickly without having to use different products by hand/pole that takes a lot more time and effort to do so.
Seank, I'm still searching for the holly grail of chems so to speak. I'm also very doubtful if neclean is the anwser to my quest for plastic restoration work as it sounds like a load of metabolics to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiTe0Eq55uE
Hi Smurf, just to share NuClean is not recommended for restoration of pvc/upvc surfaces, its a replacement if you want to clean surfaces using a safer option than traditional type harsh/aggressive cleaners. for restoration of these type surfaces its best to use specific cleaning and polishing pastes. Tadgh
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Tadgh when you get some more Nuclean in will you email me thanks
Hi Paul, sorry meant to reply to you earlier and yes no prob will let you know as soon as. Tadgh
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Im not personally into refurbishing fascia etc....I offer a general clean, charge normally £25 a side
on a standard 3 bed terrace...I explain the cleaning process and what it will and wont remove
never get turned away infact I get repeat work from a lot of it
I plug wfp into outside tap, bit of fairy on the brush and get on with it, 60-70mins im done
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Steven if she has an outside tap connect it to your reel and pole it, I used to hand clean bungalows just because I didn't
find much difference time wise when using pumped pure from the van, there just wasn't enough pressure.
There's no way I would hand clean one again plus no chemicals needed the tap pressure just blasts them clean with a light scrub.
I agree with Sean on this one!
Although I would use a chemical. I like Virosol ( neat, sprayed on brush, rub in, clean off).
I've been using Tadghs Nuclean recently which is a metabolic cleaner and the results are excellent. Brings the plastics up really well.
Does Nuclean remove staining (tiger stripes etc) without having to use elbow grease Rigsby?
Hi Smurf, i have never come across a product that would remove heavily ingrained staining without having to use some elbow grease, we do have a deep cleaning and polishing paste which is ideal for this purpose of course some elbow grease also needed, if you would like a sample to put it to the test send me an email to info@jskcleaning.ie Tadgh
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Steven if she has an outside tap connect it to your reel and pole it, I used to hand clean bungalows just because I didn't
find much difference time wise when using pumped pure from the van, there just wasn't enough pressure.
There's no way I would hand clean one again plus no chemicals needed the tap pressure just blasts them clean with a light scrub.
I agree with Sean on this one!
Although I would use a chemical. I like Virosol ( neat, sprayed on brush, rub in, clean off).
I've been using Tadghs Nuclean recently which is a metabolic cleaner and the results are excellent. Brings the plastics up really well.
Does Nuclean remove staining (tiger stripes etc) without having to use elbow grease Rigsby?
Hi Smurf, i have never come across a product that would remove heavily ingrained staining without having to use some elbow grease, we do have a deep cleaning and polishing paste which is ideal for this purpose of course some elbow grease also needed, if you would like a sample to put it to the test send me an email to info@jskcleaning.ie Tadgh
Thanks Tadgh
Have you got your online shop sorted out yet?
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Steven if she has an outside tap connect it to your reel and pole it, I used to hand clean bungalows just because I didn't
find much difference time wise when using pumped pure from the van, there just wasn't enough pressure.
There's no way I would hand clean one again plus no chemicals needed the tap pressure just blasts them clean with a light scrub.
I agree with Sean on this one!
Although I would use a chemical. I like Virosol ( neat, sprayed on brush, rub in, clean off).
I've been using Tadghs Nuclean recently which is a metabolic cleaner and the results are excellent. Brings the plastics up really well.
Does Nuclean remove staining (tiger stripes etc) without having to use elbow grease Rigsby?
Hi Smurf, i have never come across a product that would remove heavily ingrained staining without having to use some elbow grease, we do have a deep cleaning and polishing paste which is ideal for this purpose of course some elbow grease also needed, if you would like a sample to put it to the test send me an email to info@jskcleaning.ie Tadgh
Thanks Tadgh
Have you got your online shop sorted out yet?
Hi Smurf, no not yet if you send me your address i will have one sent on to you.