Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: NWH on January 20, 2016, 02:47:29 pm
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Is there any company that sells gas heaters that are installed by them,I thought I read somewhere once that Calor now do one. My diesel heater is good and has been since I got it but it plays havoc with the battery's even when there properly split charged they drain a hell of a lot of power. I mains charged 1 the other day it was reading 14 volts before I turned the van off and then within 10 minutes using the heater dropped it to 11.4 and then it powered off due to lack of battery power,thing is with gas it only requires ignition after that your only powering a 12volt pump just working cold my battery never dropped below 12.5 Volts.
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If you happen to live in ireland the yes sureclean do a calor gas approved heater install.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSsRn6PwZ-w
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You will also find ConceptHO use the same lpg heater as sureclean use under the hood of their systems
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Oh yes please coffee with legionaires disease.. lovely!
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I've seen that Sureclean clip before it looks like it's an L5 heater I've had one years ago but it does get very hot the water that is,I'm more interested in the fact that they don't drain your main battery. My water gets hot enough with the diesel heater but like I say it kills the battery's.
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I've seen that Sureclean clip before it looks like it's an L5 heater I've had one years ago but it does get very hot the water that is,I'm more interested in the fact that they don't drain your main battery. My water gets hot enough with the diesel heater but like I say it kills the battery's.
No it's not an L5 ;D
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Run two or three batteries parallel so 3x 110 amp = 330 amps but still only 12 volt. Last three times longer before battery cutting out on low voltage. Recharge batteries with pos on batt 1 and neg on batt 3
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I have a 115amp and a 110 amp in the van but as the 115 is new I just connected that up but I have run 2 before,how are you saying wire them up again
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Are you saying piggy back them when charging them so in effect they are working as 1 battery.
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Or charging as 1
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If you connect say 3 12v 100 amp battery's together in line it makes one big battery 300 amp but stays at 12volts
If you wired them alternate positive to negative your big battery would be 100 amps but 36v
So using 3 inline would last six hours rather than your current 2 hours
Hope this helps
Darran
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I'll be lucky 2 fully charged batteries with a split charge after 20 or so miles as well after about 45 mins use the controller starts saying the flow and batt and it drops to about 11-7 volts. If I turn the heater off and run cold it will never drop below 12-5 volts. The heater is killing the batteries,it's doing my head in that's why I'm looking to go down the gas route if it's a proper install I know concept do them but someone I know has had trouble with his since he got it.
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Which heater you got, sounds like somethings wrong somewhere, or can you only run these heaters while the van is running ??
So just checking you have two leisure batteries wired together in the back of the van to power the pump and heater - is that correct?
Darran
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I used to use 2 battery's piggy backed together but I was told a 115 amp one split charged should be enough,I have a varitech heatwave and like I say when van is running its 14 v happy days then drops to 12.6 or 12.5 then continuously drops down to 11.4 today funny enough with just that 1 battery it was ok but that's the first time it has been for ages.
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Sounds more like a bad connection somewhere or something similar.
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That's what I lve been thinking about a bad connection I think I'm going to have to check all the wiring.
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Diesel heaters do run the battery down quick.
I use to run a diesel heater all day on a separate 110 amp battery which was connected to a split charge from van main battery and it never let me down during the working day so maybe it's your battery connection.
Use to run two pumps on a separate battery for two users and could notice that getting slower as the day wore on as flow would gradually reduce as voltage dropped.
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Have you checked your fuses as they may be corroding or wearing thin. I've had problems with fuse blades in the past and replaced them then everything works efficiently again.
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Oh yes please coffee with legionaires disease.. lovely!
The Legionaires implications come from the storage of tepid water. So maybe an immersion set up ? And on demand hot water system couldn't possibly be an incubator for Legionaires, in this country at least !!! :)
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I'll be lucky 2 fully charged batteries with a split charge after 20 or so miles as well after about 45 mins use the controller starts saying the flow and batt and it drops to about 11-7 volts. If I turn the heater off and run cold it will never drop below 12-5 volts. The heater is killing the batteries,it's doing my head in that's why I'm looking to go down the gas route if it's a proper install I know concept do them but someone I know has had trouble with his since he got it.
you dont need someone to fit a gas heater for you.they are dead easy to rig up.cheap too compared to diesel heaters.you can have the water scalding hot for add on jobs too if you want.
it costs me £3-50-£4-00 a day to use hot all day.i have an L10 though so even on min settings its warm(30-35 degrees).im using it every day in winter but ill switch it off in spring/summer and just use it for filthy first cleans/add ons.
two D cell batteries is all you need for auto ignition
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Reach to clean do install a full refillable gas setup inc an anemy heater all in for about £900 ish ....
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Reach to clean do install a full refillable gas setup inc an anemy heater all in for about £900 ish ....
The price they charge is a joke as you can buy the same heater they install for less than £100
The other parts like the refillable gas setup are also easily available and are reasonably cheap too so you are paying out loads of dosh for the install.
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Oh yes please coffee with legionaires disease.. lovely!
The Legionaires implications come from the storage of tepid water. So maybe an immersion set up ? And on demand hot water system couldn't possibly be an incubator for Legionaires, in this country at least !!! :)
But what about the heated water that might then be left to sit about in the hose?
I could be wrong.. but drinking deionized water is just as stupid.
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Oh yes please coffee with legionaires disease.. lovely!
The Legionaires implications come from the storage of tepid water. So maybe an immersion set up ? And on demand hot water system couldn't possibly be an incubator for Legionaires, in this country at least !!! :)
But what about the heated water that might then be left to sit about in the hose?
I could be wrong.. but drinking deionized water is just as stupid.
Ro/di filtration process used for window cleaning my understanding is it strips out not only dissolvable solids but also the chems put in it that makes it safe to drink normal tap water. However it does not filter out bacteria/micro organisms that can flourish in purified water holding tanks etc. Running it through a hot water heater would make no difference to make it safer to drink either once the chlorine/fluoride is taken out of water. What it does mean though using purified water the water heater should lasts longer as don't get furred up. Still I would pass on making hot drinks from it though as the water is not boiled to make it safer to drink.
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Have you checked your fuses as they may be corroding or wearing thin. I've had problems with fuse blades in the past and replaced them then everything works efficiently again.
Thanks I'll change them today and see how I go.
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Oh yes please coffee with legionnaires disease.. lovely!
Rumour mongering I had a chat with an inspector for l/d this week he told me in four years he has never found a problem yet. He said the reason we Windies will not get L/D is due to our water not been stagnant and it does get cold each night. So let us bury the old wives tail. He said the biggest problem is redundant water piping and boiler with header tanks in the roof. O yes you will need lots of limescale to be present.
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Well said
Darran
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Oh yes please coffee with legionaires disease.. lovely!
The Legionaires implications come from the storage of tepid water. So maybe an immersion set up ? And on demand hot water system couldn't possibly be an incubator for Legionaires, in this country at least !!! :)
But what about the heated water that might then be left to sit about in the hose?
I could be wrong.. but drinking deionized water is just as stupid.
I think the issue with dionised water is if you have polished it off with resin before you drink it. Resin is a chemical wash.
At one time we bought resin from a supplier who assured us that it was FDA approved so suitable for human consumption. I only ever drank the water from the tank once and it tasted terrible. After we finished the first bag of FDA approved resin we bought the ordinary stuff.
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get 2 6v trojan batteries in series mate if budget will stretch. amazing batteries! 900 cycles also. Good luck which ever heater you go for