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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ashbash on January 19, 2016, 08:32:56 pm

Title: Which brush
Post by: ashbash on January 19, 2016, 08:32:56 pm
Up and rolling wfp and chuffed to bits wasting 10 years risking my Arse up a ladder😏😏
Next step is making the job easier. What's the best brush on the market for everyday window cleaning. I'm using a Phoenix hybrid pole at the moment.  Is this much good or am I missing a trick.
Cheers
Ash
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: chris turner on January 19, 2016, 10:16:13 pm
Xline mono, beast of a brush.
http://www.xline-systems.co.uk/water-fed-poles/evo-lite-brushes/evo-lite-26cm-brush-detail

Gardiners slx or extremes, best poles.
http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/water-fed-poles/telescopic-poles/slx-ii-carbon-fibre-pole.html
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: chris turner on January 19, 2016, 10:20:45 pm
Other things to make the job easier..

Vision
http://jigsaw-innovations.co.uk/

Flow controller with built in battery charger
http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/pumps-controllers/flowmaster-digital-pump-controller-with-battery-charger-facility.html

Aquatap
http://www.window-tools.com/aquatap.htm

Cleaner planner
https://www.cleanerplanner.com/
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: the king on January 20, 2016, 06:21:41 am
tecbuk hibrid takes some beating  8) shame the stock can bend on some of his brushes + servive bk up is pxxxsss poor
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: Dave Willis on January 20, 2016, 07:54:32 am
http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/pumps-controllers/flowmaster-digital-pump-controller-with-battery-charger-facility.html


How does this work - is it a split charge relay too or does that come separate?
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: SB Cleaning on January 20, 2016, 07:56:09 am
Xline mono, beast of a brush.
http://www.xline-systems.co.uk/water-fed-poles/evo-lite-brushes/evo-lite-26cm-brush-detail

Gardiners slx or extremes, best poles.
http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/water-fed-poles/telescopic-poles/slx-ii-carbon-fibre-pole.html
Yep...X line mono and a Slx pole is a winning combination  ;)
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: Dave Willis on January 20, 2016, 07:56:56 am
Allround everyday brush - Xline mono.
Anything more specialised then go for one of Gardiners.
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: chris turner on January 20, 2016, 08:20:29 am
http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/pumps-controllers/flowmaster-digital-pump-controller-with-battery-charger-facility.html


How does this work - is it a split charge relay too or does that come separate?

Yes Dave it has a split charge relay built into the flow controller.
Dead easy to wire up, took me 15 mins, and you can see the condition of the battery and see it charging on the screen.
Iv only taken my battery out twice in the last year to charge it. Once after doing a big commercial job, the other time was over Xmas after having 2 weeks off.

Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: SeanK on January 20, 2016, 09:27:24 am
The X line mono is what I would call a starter brush similar to the Gardiner super lite, they're ok if your short on confidence or
experience but if you really want to speed up while having as easy a working day as possible then you have to get onto the Gardiner Xtreme brushes, just try not to over scrub as there's no need and it will needlessly shorten their lifespan.
Xtreme medium mixed for windows and the stiff for fsg cleans.
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: chris turner on January 20, 2016, 01:07:16 pm
The X line mono is what I would call a starter brush similar to the Gardiner super lite, they're ok if your short on confidence or
experience but if you really want to speed up while having as easy a working day as possible then you have to get onto the Gardiner Xtreme brushes, just try not to over scrub as there's no need and it will needlessly shorten their lifespan.
Xtreme medium mixed for windows and the stiff for fsg cleans.

Funny guy that seank...
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: SeanK on January 20, 2016, 01:29:02 pm
The X line mono is what I would call a starter brush similar to the Gardiner super lite, they're ok if your short on confidence or
experience but if you really want to speed up while having as easy a working day as possible then you have to get onto the Gardiner Xtreme brushes, just try not to over scrub as there's no need and it will needlessly shorten their lifespan.
Xtreme medium mixed for windows and the stiff for fsg cleans.

Funny guy that seank...

And yet I am the guy working away using the lightest brush on the market and your still plodding along with a brick on the
end of your pole, worse still even using it you cant even achieve a decent clean without adding chemicals that others don't seem to need, maybe you should try funny.
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: dazmond on January 20, 2016, 01:34:17 pm
do you ever do any work sean?posting on here at this time?(frequently).

im ill so got a good excuse although id rather be working.nice and sunny here and about 5c :(
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: SeanK on January 20, 2016, 01:46:25 pm
do you ever do any work sean?posting on here at this time?(frequently).

im ill so got a good excuse although id rather be working.nice and sunny here and about 5c :(

I do enough to keep me going, Iv had five operations on my back in the last 2 years the final one was last Thursday so Iv also got a good excuse for cutting back on the hours.
Hopefully back to normality in the next week or so if not the window cleaning is going to have to hit on the head and something
easier found.
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: chris turner on January 20, 2016, 02:04:23 pm
The X line mono is what I would call a starter brush similar to the Gardiner super lite, they're ok if your short on confidence or
experience but if you really want to speed up while having as easy a working day as possible then you have to get onto the Gardiner Xtreme brushes, just try not to over scrub as there's no need and it will needlessly shorten their lifespan.
Xtreme medium mixed for windows and the stiff for fsg cleans.

Funny guy that seank...

And yet I am the guy working away using the lightest brush on the market and your still plodding along with a brick on the
end of your pole, worse still even using it you cant even achieve a decent clean without adding chemicals that others don't seem to need, maybe you should try funny.

The extreme brushes are made for splash and dash weedy little girls with twiglet arms.
Xline mono are proper brushes for men that want to do a proper job.
Go and brush your dolls hair with your extreme little girl, the men are trying to discuss work here ;)
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: Smurf on January 20, 2016, 02:20:48 pm
Gardiner stiff sill (radial) brushes works well enough for what I clean thesedays.
I've not tried any xline brushes yet so might give them a go one day.
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: Shane sharples on January 20, 2016, 02:39:24 pm
The X line mono is what I would call a starter brush similar to the Gardiner super lite, they're ok if your short on confidence or
experience but if you really want to speed up while having as easy a working day as possible then you have to get onto the Gardiner Xtreme brushes, just try not to over scrub as there's no need and it will needlessly shorten their lifespan.
Xtreme medium mixed for windows and the stiff for fsg cleans.

Funny guy that seank...

And yet I am the guy working away using the lightest brush on the market and your still plodding along with a brick on the
end of your pole, worse still even using it you cant even achieve a decent clean without adding chemicals that others don't seem to need, maybe you should try funny.

The extreme brushes are made for splash and dash weedy little girls with twiglet arms.
Xline mono are proper brushes for men that want to do a proper job.
Go and brush your dolls hair with your extreme little girl, the men are trying to discuss work here ;)

Calm down calm down!! ( scouse accent) 😃
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: NWH on January 20, 2016, 02:50:46 pm
I have one of the very first version extreme brushes which is far better than any that have come out since,totally different bristle type it cleans as well as a brush similar to an Xline without the weight. I find he Xline to be the best of its shape and weight though.
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: SeanK on January 20, 2016, 04:05:43 pm
The X line mono is what I would call a starter brush similar to the Gardiner super lite, they're ok if your short on confidence or
experience but if you really want to speed up while having as easy a working day as possible then you have to get onto the Gardiner Xtreme brushes, just try not to over scrub as there's no need and it will needlessly shorten their lifespan.
Xtreme medium mixed for windows and the stiff for fsg cleans.

Funny guy that seank...

And yet I am the guy working away using the lightest brush on the market and your still plodding along with a brick on the
end of your pole, worse still even using it you cant even achieve a decent clean without adding chemicals that others don't seem to need, maybe you should try funny.

The extreme brushes are made for splash and dash weedy little girls with twiglet arms.
Xline mono are proper brushes for men that want to do a proper job.
Go and brush your dolls hair with your extreme little girl, the men are trying to discuss work here ;)

I think a reply like this says it all, and for some reason I now cant get Mungo from Blazing Saddles out of my head. ;D
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: dazmond on January 20, 2016, 07:36:02 pm
do you ever do any work sean?posting on here at this time?(frequently).

im ill so got a good excuse although id rather be working.nice and sunny here and about 5c :(

I do enough to keep me going, Iv had five operations on my back in the last 2 years the final one was last Thursday so Iv also got a good excuse for cutting back on the hours.
Hopefully back to normality in the next week or so if not the window cleaning is going to have to hit on the head and something
easier found.

RUDDY HELL SEAN!i didnt realise you had serious back problems.puts my crappy flu into perspective. ::)roll

5 operations?thats bad mate.

i hope your finally on the mend mate.
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: jk999 on January 20, 2016, 08:07:29 pm
Its only the glass in his back they keep putting back together  ;D
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: the king on January 20, 2016, 09:18:29 pm
i found the extreme brushes barely scrub the froff off a cappuchino  let alone scrub a window clean ;D
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: Jonny 87 on January 20, 2016, 09:46:01 pm
I'm very OCD about my work.

I went back to extreme brushes for about 4 months. At first I loved them, it feels like there is no weight on the end of the pole, and herein lies the problem.  On some of my work I was checking on the 4th month I could see parts of the glass getting a slight hazey look in low winter sun light. The extreme brushes weren't cleaning as thoroughly as say the supreme brush.

Extreme brushes can work well, but in my opinion you have to scrub the glass an extra few times to take all the dirt off, compared to say just one or two passes with a denser packed bristle brush.

To me I'd rather have a bit more weight on the pole, but only have to scrub the glass once or twice to achieve a near perfect clean, than have a very light brush, but have to scrub three or four times.

No matter how good you want extreme brushes to be, they just don't cut it on all glass.
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: dazmond on January 21, 2016, 07:32:44 am
I'm very OCD about my work.

I went back to extreme brushes for about 4 months. At first I loved them, it feels like there is no weight on the end of the pole, and herein lies the problem.  On some of my work I was checking on the 4th month I could see parts of the glass getting a slight hazey look in low winter sun light. The extreme brushes weren't cleaning as thoroughly as say the supreme brush.

Extreme brushes can work well, but in my opinion you have to scrub the glass an extra few times to take all the dirt off, compared to say just one or two passes with a denser packed bristle brush.

To me I'd rather have a bit more weight on the pole, but only have to scrub the glass once or twice to achieve a near perfect clean, than have a very light brush, but have to scrub three or four times.

No matter how good you want extreme brushes to be, they just don't cut it on all glass.

yep i agree jonny.i remember cleaning a customers inside windows after poling the outsides and at the top of the glass there was still a bit of dirt on quite a few windows even though id scrubbed them twice with extreme brushes.

i tend to only use the extremes on work over 30ft these days.

SL standard/supreme brushes from gardiners and the xline evo lites get used for most work.
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: Dave Willis on January 21, 2016, 04:26:47 pm
Same here - loved them for a year or so but never use them now.
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: M & C Window Cleaning on January 21, 2016, 06:43:13 pm
My favorite brushes at the mo are the XLine Evo-lite and Gardiner's  Supremes. For me the Evo-lite has the edge on the Supreme. Slightly heavier but more durable.

I know this post isn't about poles but I Currently use an SL-X 18 and 27 and love em.
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: SB Cleaning on January 21, 2016, 07:22:32 pm
The X line mono is what I would call a starter brush similar to the Gardiner super lite, they're ok if your short on confidence or
experience but if you really want to speed up while having as easy a working day as possible then you have to get onto the Gardiner Xtreme brushes, just try not to over scrub as there's no need and it will needlessly shorten their lifespan.
Xtreme medium mixed for windows and the stiff for fsg cleans.

Funny guy that seank...

And yet I am the guy working away using the lightest brush on the market and your still plodding along with a brick on the
end of your pole, worse still even using it you cant even achieve a decent clean without adding chemicals that others don't seem to need, maybe you should try funny.

The extreme brushes are made for splash and dash weedy little girls with twiglet arms.
Xline mono are proper brushes for men that want to do a proper job.
Go and brush your dolls hair with your extreme little girl, the men are trying to discuss work here ;)
I.have to agree Chris...

Extreme brushes are naff they fall to bits in a matter of a few weeks...

Had my x line mono for 6 months now and still in brilliant condition ;D
Title: Re: Which brush
Post by: james stanley on January 22, 2016, 10:04:42 am
Xline mono , extreme 25 ft , hot water and vision e best combo ever ....