Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: chris turner on January 11, 2016, 08:24:55 pm
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As title really..
Will be my first gutter vac so doesn't need to be the best one out there, just want something that's capable of residential and small commercial jobs.
Don't have room for a generator in the van so need a vac that is safe to plug into customers mains!
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Grippa vac...great bit of kit ;)
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Grippa vac...great bit of kit ;)
Forgot to mention iv got a budget of upto 1k.
Grippa look good but the 30ft 40litre is pushing £1500..
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I have recently bought the genie vac.
Great machine and realy powerful even at 50ft.
All machines are basically the same thing a wet and dry vac. As long as its over 3000w then will be a good machine, carbon or modular poles are what id spend more money on.
Its a great add on business especialy commercialy.
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u can get a grippa vac 1400w for £640 from a@d cleaning suplies same vac as grippa but cheeper but it needs to b moded easy to do blade right do some cracking poles airo space alli 700g per section £250+vat 36ft i recken u could get a set up for £900
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A few tips
1. The less you pay, the quicker you will be in profit, the more you pay the quicker your supplier will be in profit.
2. Any thing over £300/400 is all bells and whistles.
3. Needing over, or any thing like 3000 watts, is total nonsense!!
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I have recently bought the genie vac.
Great machine and realy powerful even at 50ft.
All machines are basically the same thing a wet and dry vac. As long as its over 3000w then will be a good machine, carbon or modular poles are what id spend more money on.
Its a great add on business especialy commercialy.
Iv been offered a regular commercial job already, twice a year for 1k, but gutter vac is a must if I take it.
Is the genie OK plugged into mains, no problems blowing fuses?
Just had a look at the genie, very good price for 30 ft. Anyone else use it?
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A few tips
1. The less you pay, the quicker you will be in profit, the more you pay the quicker your supplier will be in profit.
2. Any thing over £300/400 is all bells and whistles.
3. Needing over, or any thing like 3000 watts, is total nonsense!!
This is coming from the guy that use to sell 4200 watt crappy star vacs mind you and still sells 3000 watt guttervac kits ???
Talking about shooting yourself in the foot Nick ;D
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A few tips
1. The less you pay, the quicker you will be in profit, the more you pay the quicker your supplier will be in profit.
2. Any thing over £300/400 is all bells and whistles.
3. Needing over, or any thing like 3000 watts, is total nonsense!!
Im Guessing you dont do any work then??
I have 3 settings on my Vac! 1000w/2000w and 3000w. 1000w is naff unless just leaves and basic domestic grime. 2000w is good upto 3 story but does struggle and you cant feel it sucking as great as on full.. where as full power 3000w takes no prisoners and gets the job done in the shortest amount of time.
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I have recently bought the genie vac.
Great machine and realy powerful even at 50ft.
All machines are basically the same thing a wet and dry vac. As long as its over 3000w then will be a good machine, carbon or modular poles are what id spend more money on.
Its a great add on business especialy commercialy.
Iv been offered a regular commercial job already, twice a year for 1k, but gutter vac is a must if I take it.
Is the genie OK plugged into mains, no problems blowing fuses?
Just had a look at the genie, very good price for 30 ft. Anyone else use it?
Yes fine on the mains. I was using it with 2x 30meter extension reels. I can vouch for Genie being upto the job its built for.
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There you go a 40 foot 3000 watt kit for 795 squid mucker http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/3000carbonfibrekits.html
Ask Nick nicely and he might throw in the inspection camera kit (wifi baby monitor) in for nothing... Bless him ;D
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There you go a 40 foot 3000 watt kit for 795 squid mucker http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/3000carbonfibrekits.html
As Nick nicely and he might throw in the inspection camera kit (wifi baby monitor) in for nothing... Bless him ;D
So is that kit any good then smurf?
Serious answer please :)
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For the money it looks ok to me but can't really comment as not tried that set up.
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A few tips
1. The less you pay, the quicker you will be in profit, the more you pay the quicker your supplier will be in profit.
2. Any thing over £300/400 is all bells and whistles.
3. Needing over, or any thing like 3000 watts, is total nonsense!!
Nick can you email me a bit more info on your 3000w 30ft setup please.
enquiries.primeshine@gmail.com
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There you go a 40 foot 3000 watt kit for 795 squid mucker http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/3000carbonfibrekits.html
As Nick nicely and he might throw in the inspection camera kit (wifi baby monitor) in for nothing... Bless him ;D
So is that kit any good then smurf?
Serious answer please :) there not as good as the grippa vac/streem vac's as they dont have the side entery its the side entery that gives the good suction the vac's that havent got this arnt so good also the grippa ones/streem vac's r bomb prouf my m8 had water pooring out the swich to weeks ago as it was lashing down and the vac filled up with water strate away its still going strong lol ;D
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there is a guy on a nother forum that has that vac^^ and he was saying it was not that power full 3000w one suction was poor and the alli poles flex way to mch
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I have recently bought the genie vac.
Great machine and realy powerful even at 50ft.
All machines are basically the same thing a wet and dry vac. As long as its over 3000w then will be a good machine, carbon or modular poles are what id spend more money on.
Its a great add on business especialy commercialy.
Iv been offered a regular commercial job already, twice a year for 1k, but gutter vac is a must if I take it.
Is the genie OK plugged into mains, no problems blowing fuses?
Just had a look at the genie, very good price for 30 ft. Anyone else use it?
what u need is a power braker that plugs in to the custmers socket so if u go blow a fuse it wont blow the custmers it will just trip out on ur power braker there only cheep
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A few tips
1. The less you pay, the quicker you will be in profit, the more you pay the quicker your supplier will be in profit.
2. Any thing over £300/400 is all bells and whistles.
3. Needing over, or any thing like 3000 watts, is total nonsense!!
1. The less you pay the sooner it will fall apart...
2. Anything at £300/£400 from a gutter vac company is probably worth £100 - get a wet/dry vac off eBay
3. True if you want to take all day doing a 10 minute job and lose your profit !!!
If your going to gutter vac then at least start out the decent equipment otherwise I think it's doomed to fail
Darran
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there is a guy on a nother forum that has that vac^^ and he was saying it was not that power full 3000w one suction was poor and the alli poles flex way to mch
There carbon poles with that kit.
What about this kit..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gutter-Cleaning-Vacuum-Machine-Sucker/dp
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Links not working...
The numatic vac that streamline does looks pretty good, but not looked into its specs, think you'd be hard pressed to beat the skyvac offering for all round performance and quality, yes there's a price premium but you won't be cursing it every time you need it.
We've used the 4200 watt omnivac for 6 years - it's never failed to tackle any job and still going strong! But omnivac are extremely expensive.
Darran
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Grippa vac...great bit of kit ;)
Forgot to mention iv got a budget of upto 1k.
Grippa look good but the 30ft 40litre is pushing £1500..
Hi Chris,
Whilst our kit is not the cheapest on the market, with the 2 year warranty that comes with motors on the vacuum, as well as the fact that the poles is a fully carbon Gardiner manufactured product, you can be assured of a quality product.
We can also offer finance on our packages, so you could finance the difference between your budget and the extra cost of the system?
Feel free to drop us a line on enquiries@grippatank.co.uk if you wish to discuss it further.
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Grippa vac...great bit of kit ;)
Forgot to mention iv got a budget of upto 1k.
Grippa look good but the 30ft 40litre is pushing £1500..
Hi Chris,
Whilst our kit is not the cheapest on the market, with the 2 year warranty that comes with motors on the vacuum, as well as the fact that the poles is a fully carbon Gardiner manufactured product, you can be assured of a quality product.
We can also offer finance on our packages, so you could finance the difference between your budget and the extra cost of the system?
Feel free to drop us a line on enquiries@grippatank.co.uk if you wish to discuss it further.
Thanks but I don't do finance, I always pay in full.
If it was later in the year I would of gone for a more expensive vac. Having just spent over 10k just before Xmas on a van then had a few weeks off, my savings have dwindled!
I have a gutter contract already lined up who require it done asap so will have to get a mid range vac for now..
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Grippa vac...great bit of kit ;)
Forgot to mention iv got a budget of upto 1k.
Grippa look good but the 30ft 40litre is pushing £1500..
Hi Chris,
Whilst our kit is not the cheapest on the market, with the 2 year warranty that comes with motors on the vacuum, as well as the fact that the poles is a fully carbon Gardiner manufactured product, you can be assured of a quality product.
We can also offer finance on our packages, so you could finance the difference between your budget and the extra cost of the system?
Feel free to drop us a line on enquiries@grippatank.co.uk if you wish to discuss it further.
Thanks but I don't do finance, I always pay in full.
If it was later in the year I would of gone for a more expensive vac. Having just spent over 10k just before Xmas on a van then had a few weeks off, my savings have dwindled!
I have a gutter contract already lined up who require it done asap so will have to get a mid range vac for now..
Do you know what height you need to work to? You can always buy the extra sections as finances allow..
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Grippa vac...great bit of kit ;)
Forgot to mention iv got a budget of upto 1k.
Grippa look good but the 30ft 40litre is pushing £1500..
Hi Chris,
Whilst our kit is not the cheapest on the market, with the 2 year warranty that comes with motors on the vacuum, as well as the fact that the poles is a fully carbon Gardiner manufactured product, you can be assured of a quality product.
We can also offer finance on our packages, so you could finance the difference between your budget and the extra cost of the system?
Feel free to drop us a line on enquiries@grippatank.co.uk if you wish to discuss it further.
Thanks but I don't do finance, I always pay in full.
If it was later in the year I would of gone for a more expensive vac. Having just spent over 10k just before Xmas on a van then had a few weeks off, my savings have dwindled!
I have a gutter contract already lined up who require it done asap so will have to get a mid range vac for now..
Do you know what height you need to work to? You can always buy the extra sections as finances allow..
Need 30ft minimum..
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Anyone tried the xline vac?
http://www.xline-systems.co.uk/xline-shop/gutter-vacuum-machines/xline-3500w-gutter-vac-carbon-poles-complete-package-detail
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Nope but does look good at a glance.
However the poles seem carbon hybrid not full carbon maybe and only 44mm not 50mm and only 5ft per section with no mention of the weight of each pole section either. Hose is only 38mm not 50mm so will be more suseptable to blockages. The camera can be bought on fleebay cheap too so no big deal. My main concern if wanting to use customers power the vac is rated higher than a standard 13am socket so could cause overheating/fire when using 3 motors and trip the breaker too.
Apart from that it looks great ;D
Xline 3500w Gutter Vac + 30ft Carbon Poles + HD Camera - Complete Package
Gutter Vac Specification:
•230 Volt
•3 motors, 3500 Watt •765m3/h air flow
•62L capacity
•38mm hose diameter
•Polypropylene tank
•Polypropylene trolley
•Heavy duty wheels & castors
•10m power cable
•Complete with wet & dry tools
•675d x 565w x 920h, mm. 25.4 Kg
Carbon Gutter Pole Set:
•6 x 5ft (30 foot) 44mm Carbon Composite Gutter Poles
•10m Length of Flexi Suction Hose
•Heavy Duty Carry Bag
•Gutter Tool Set
HD Wifi Gutter Pole Camera:
•Wi-Fi Function, the user can operation or review via Android or for iOS Device - App can be downloaded
•Mini appearance, diversified colors available
•A water-resistant casing that allows you to film fascinating water sports
•Multiple photo shooting modes: Single shot, Snapper
•Multiple video recording formats: 1080P 720P WVGA
•Water-resistant up to 30 meters under water
•High definition screen that displays and replays fascinating videos recorded
•Support HDMI HD output function
•Support web camera function
•Detachable battery that is easy to replace and prolongs your cameras service life
•Support Micro SD Card Class 6 or Above up to 32GB (Card Not Included)
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Nope but does look good at a glance.
However the poles seem carbon hybrid not full carbon maybe and only 44mm not 50mm and only 5ft per section with no mention of the weight of each pole section either. Hose is only 38mm not 50mm so will be more suseptable to blockages. The camera can be bought on fleebay cheap too so no big deal. My main concern if wanting to use customers power the vac is rated higher than a standard 13am socket so could cause overheating/fire when using 3 motors and trip the breaker too.
Apart from that it looks great ;D
Xline 3500w Gutter Vac + 30ft Carbon Poles + HD Camera - Complete Package
Gutter Vac Specification:
•230 Volt
•3 motors, 3500 Watt •765m3/h air flow
•62L capacity
•38mm hose diameter
•Polypropylene tank
•Polypropylene trolley
•Heavy duty wheels & castors
•10m power cable
•Complete with wet & dry tools
•675d x 565w x 920h, mm. 25.4 Kg
Carbon Gutter Pole Set:
•6 x 5ft (30 foot) 44mm Carbon Composite Gutter Poles
•10m Length of Flexi Suction Hose
•Heavy Duty Carry Bag
•Gutter Tool Set
HD Wifi Gutter Pole Camera:
•Wi-Fi Function, the user can operation or review via Android or for iOS Device - App can be downloaded
•Mini appearance, diversified colors available
•A water-resistant casing that allows you to film fascinating water sports
•Multiple photo shooting modes: Single shot, Snapper
•Multiple video recording formats: 1080P 720P WVGA
•Water-resistant up to 30 meters under water
•High definition screen that displays and replays fascinating videos recorded
•Support HDMI HD output function
•Support web camera function
•Detachable battery that is easy to replace and prolongs your cameras service life
•Support Micro SD Card Class 6 or Above up to 32GB (Card Not Included)
Thanks for putting me off smurf ;D
Although I'm glad you responded as you seem to know your stuff on vacs.
So I'm down to 3 options, genie vac, gutter sucker or the one you posted earlier from Nick's site.
If you had the choice of the 3, which would you go for smurf?
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Maybe contact them all and play one off agaist the other to get the best deal as you are really after 40ft pole set not 30ft
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Maybe contact them all and play one off agaist the other to get the best deal as you are really after 40ft pole set not 30ft
There all similar prices, just want to know which is the best value. 30ft would do me for now, can add sections later.
From my limited knowledge, Nick's option looks the best.. 3000w triple motor 155plm suction , full carbon poles, 75 litre capacity, 50mm hose.
Your the gutter man, what do you think lol?
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Genie vac, great machine and well built.
Gardiner Modular poles so can use for high window cleaning work as well as high gutter work.
A guy is selling a 40ft modular in the for sale section of this site. So under your £1000 budget total.
I found i didnt need a camera as i could feel the guttervac sucking all the debris and muck through the poles via vibration although i still am going to get 1 for the just in case episode where it will be needed as an inspection.
Honestly you wont go far wrong with the genie vac. I think its great.
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Genie vac, great machine and well built.
Gardiner Modular poles so can use for high window cleaning work as well as high gutter work.
A guy is selling a 40ft modular in the for sale section of this site. So under your £1000 budget total.
I found i didnt need a camera as i could feel the guttervac sucking all the debris and muck through the poles via vibration although i still am going to get 1 for the just in case episode where it will be needed as an inspection.
Honestly you wont go far wrong with the genie vac. I think its great.
Cheers Mick, it is a tough choice between the genie and these 2
http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/3000carbonfibrekits.html
http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/skyvac-guttersucker.html
There all very similar, though the genie only has hybrid poles. Each one has its own pros and cons though which is why I can't decide.
That's why smurf is going to decide for me ;D
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I payed just under £400 without the poles for my genie as always wanted to use modular over standared gutter poles. Even the carbon poles that do come with the vacs arn't that great against modular poles which are king as are the right diameter and light and rigid as hell for heavy all day use on big jobs.
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Genie vac, great machine and well built.
Gardiner Modular poles so can use for high window cleaning work as well as high gutter work.
A guy is selling a 40ft modular in the for sale section of this site. So under your £1000 budget total.
I found i didnt need a camera as i could feel the guttervac sucking all the debris and muck through the poles via vibration although i still am going to get 1 for the just in case episode where it will be needed as an inspection.
Honestly you wont go far wrong with the genie vac. I think its great.
Cheers Mick, it is a tough choice between the genie and these 2
http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/3000carbonfibrekits.html
http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/skyvac-guttersucker.html
There all very similar, though the genie only has hybrid poles. Each one has its own pros and cons though which is why I can't decide.
That's why smurf is going to decide for me ;D
I'm on meds and not allowed to make financial decisions for myself let alone for others ;D
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Interesting post
The Genie sections have a weight of 330g each, so at 30ft would be under the 2KG mark . 50% carbon
the one from WCW each section has a weight of 390 taking adding almost an extra half KG. 30% carbon
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Interesting post
The Genie sections have a weight of 330g each, so at 30ft would be under the 2KG mark . 50% carbon
the one from WCW each section has a weight of 390 taking adding almost an extra half KG. 30% carbon
It seems like many suppliers sell different lengh sections too which also has a bearing on the weight surely?
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Interesting post
The Genie sections have a weight of 330g each, so at 30ft would be under the 2KG mark . 50% carbon
the one from WCW each section has a weight of 390 taking adding almost an extra half KG. 30% carbon
It seems like many suppliers sell different lengh sections too which also has a bearing on the weight surely?
They are both 5 foot sections, the same
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A few tips
1. The less you pay, the quicker you will be in profit, the more you pay the quicker your supplier will be in profit.
2. Any thing over £300/400 is all bells and whistles.
3. Needing over, or any thing like 3000 watts, is total nonsense!!
1. The less you pay the sooner it will fall apart...
2. Anything at £300/£400 from a gutter vac company is probably worth £100 - get a wet/dry vac off eBay
3. True if you want to take all day doing a 10 minute job and lose your profit !!!
If your going to gutter vac then at least start out the decent equipment otherwise I think it's doomed to fail
Darran
I've tried the cheap setup and it didn't last long. Forget ali poles and under powered vacs and cheap genys.
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That was an incredibly informative posting Alan.
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Interesting post
The Genie sections have a weight of 330g each, so at 30ft would be under the 2KG mark . 50% carbon
the one from WCW each section has a weight of 390 taking adding almost an extra half KG. 30% carbon
It seems like many suppliers sell different lengh sections too which also has a bearing on the weight surely?
They are both 5 foot sections, the same
So 1.524 m then which I only presume is for transport reasons in the likes of smaller vehicles.
Being only 5 ft per section seems a ridiculous practical length to use as would need to assemble and use 6-8 section for a 30 ft job thats stood back which is blooming bonkers if you ask me ::)roll
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A few tips
1. The less you pay, the quicker you will be in profit, the more you pay the quicker your supplier will be in profit.
2. Any thing over £300/400 is all bells and whistles.
3. Needing over, or any thing like 3000 watts, is total nonsense!!
1. The less you pay the sooner it will fall apart...
2. Anything at £300/£400 from a gutter vac company is probably worth £100 - get a wet/dry vac off eBay
3. True if you want to take all day doing a 10 minute job and lose your profit !!!
If your going to gutter vac then at least start out the decent equipment otherwise I think it's doomed to fail
Darran
I've tried the cheap setup and it didn't last long. Forget ali poles and under powered vacs and cheap genys.
The setup iv ordered from nick is a 3000w triple motor nilfisk vac, with carbon poles.
OK it's not the most expensive on the market, but certainly not the cheapest.
Will do me fine for the odd bit of gutter work I'm sure.
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Nice one...Let us know how you get on ;)
Nick knows his onions so to speak being a gutter cleaner and all. Unlike many that just ship boxes and don't seem to have a clue regards gutter clearing .
Nick I'm waiting in antisipation for me free set of heads to try in loo of commision. Ta very much ;D
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A few tips
1. The less you pay, the quicker you will be in profit, the more you pay the quicker your supplier will be in profit.
2. Any thing over £300/400 is all bells and whistles.
3. Needing over, or any thing like 3000 watts, is total nonsense!!
1. The less you pay the sooner it will fall apart...
2. Anything at £300/£400 from a gutter vac company is probably worth £100 - get a wet/dry vac off eBay
3. True if you want to take all day doing a 10 minute job and lose your profit !!!
If your going to gutter vac then at least start out the decent equipment otherwise I think it's doomed to fail
Darran
I've tried the cheap setup and it didn't last long. Forget ali poles and under powered vacs and cheap genys.
The setup iv ordered from nick is a 3000w triple motor nilfisk vac, with carbon poles.
OK it's not the most expensive on the market, but certainly not the cheapest.
Will do me fine for the odd bit of gutter work I'm sure.
The 3000w Viper is one I was looking at although it's a Viper not Nilfisk. The Nilfisk group dose own Viper which are made in China and you don't get the 2 year warranty like you get with the Nilfisk.
Good luck for when you get it, after a couple of full days you'll feel other muscles starting to ache.
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There you go a 40 foot 3000 watt kit for 795 squid mucker http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/3000carbonfibrekits.html
Chris. I have that kit and it works well in my opinion. Come and have a look if you aren't sure. That white Peugeot is going well. Dave
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ive run omnipole gutter vac for 3 years now one of my motors blew cost me £165 for a new one yes they are expensive
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Chris - if you ever need a motor in the future I'll dig out the company I found they cost just £75.00 all in
Thankfully only had one blow in six years 😰
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There you go a 40 foot 3000 watt kit for 795 squid mucker http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/3000carbonfibrekits.html
Chris. I have that kit and it works well in my opinion. Come and have a look if you aren't sure. That white Peugeot is going well. Dave
Iv ordered the same kit bud, the 30ft one though.
Do you use a generator or plug into customers mains?
Glad the vans OK, done me well for 5 years, very slow but just keeps going and going :D
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Hello Chris,
The Viper is an incredibly reliable bit of kit. We have not had a motor go in two years, we have sold hundreds of machines.
At 400 grams per pole your arms won't ache, especially with the carbon head and tools.
5' working length is the perfect length for gutter cleaning.
Domestics gutters are usually about 16' high, which is three poles. Three stories is five poles plus a sixth if the ground drops away.
6' working length poles are a headache,two are to short for domestics and three are banging on the floor. When we used them we had to cut one in half to get a decent set of useful lengths.
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👍Nick spot on.
But I would still rather have the 6 foot lengths and have a half section than so many 5 footers pushed together, esp. On the three storey stuff
Darran
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Hello Chris,
The Viper is an incredibly reliable bit of kit. We have not had a motor go in two years, we have sold hundreds of machines.
At 400 grams per pole your arms won't ache, especially with the carbon head and tools.
5' working length is the perfect length for gutter cleaning.
Domestics gutters are usually about 16' high, which is three poles. Three stories is five poles plus a sixth if the ground drops away.
6' working length poles are a headache,two are to short for domestics and three are banging on the floor. When we used them we had to cut one in half to get a decent set of useful lengths.
Nick can you recommend a decent extension reel to power the vac?
Looking for 40/50 metres, preferably weatherproof.
They are hard to find, can see plenty of 240v 50m but non are weatherproof.
How do people protect extension reels when clearing gutters in rain??
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Chris - how waterproof is your vac ??? What's it's ip rating
I don't think nick would reccomend working in the rain while using 240 volts
Darran
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Chris - if you ever need a motor in the future I'll dig out the company I found they cost just £75.00 all in
Thankfully only had one blow in six years 😰
great if can you dig out the company where i can get the motor cheers ;D
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Chris - how waterproof is your vac ??? What's it's ip rating
I don't think nick would reccomend working in the rain while using 240 volts
Darran
No idea what the ip rating is smudge.
So you wouldnt recommend using the vac in rain then ;D
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I've never had a problem with me hair standing on end if thats what you mean? ;D
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Nick spot on.
But I would still rather have the 6 foot lengths and have a half section than so many 5 footers pushed together, esp. On the three storey stuff
Darran
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All wet vacs are waterproof. The machines are designed to not allow water into the top, and the motors blow moisture out of the tops.
It is a good idea and essential if you are letting employees use these machines, cut off the plug (allow yourself about three foot of cable) then fit a 16 amp waterproof plug (they are blue and easily available). Put the socket end (they normally come in plug and socket sets) onto the 3' cable with your 13 amp plug to form a rat tail. This is handy when you don't need an extension cable.
16 amp extension cables are readily available.
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All wet vacs are waterproof. The machines are designed to not allow water into the top, and the motors blow moisture out of the tops.
It is a good idea and essential if you are letting employees use these machines, cut off the plug (allow yourself about three foot of cable) then fit a 16 amp waterproof plug (they are blue and easily available). Put the socket end (they normally come in plug and socket sets) onto the 3' cable with your 13 amp plug to form a rat tail. This is handy when you don't need an extension cable.
16 amp extension cables are readily available.
So if I convert the plug on the vac to 16 amp, the vac can then plug into a 16 amp 240v extension reel, which are safer in rain.
http://www.sibbons.co.uk/product/4732/1006/50m_240v_16amp_site_open_cable_reel_2_5mm_8048
Then if I add this onto the plug on the extension reel
http://www.alltools.co.uk/defender-13-16a-fly-lead-e85301-240-volt.html?utm_source=Froogle?utm_medium=Shopping?utm_campaign=Shopping&gclid=CjwKEAiA8ee0BRD1l7vV6JHe0zISJADxYItmkytzwLxXk7vndLUIN7YQ0MA-qjyNNuVdIsdS1ln8vxoCcnnw_wcB
I can connect to customers socket. Correct?
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Or just don't bother as you can just stick the extention reel with the vac plugged into it in a plastic bag if need be.
I also always unwind the cable off the reel fully otherwise using a bag or not it can overheat.
You can also use a dribox if you wanted but to save cost as generaly they are too small to fit a large extention cable reel in you could diy one yourself out of a chepo platic storage box.
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Hello Chris,
Yes you are right.
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My old 110 volt 4200 watt vacs were fitted with 32 amp dry plugs and the extention cables too.
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Nick I'm supprised that you don't mod the cables yourself on the guttervacs you sell being that they are for outside use.
Mind you no other supplier that I know of selling 240 volt vacs bother either.
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Not in driving rain, all connections are 16 amp waterproof as is extentions etc...
While the vac has some water resistance many are only ipx4 which is 'splash' resistant .
Ipx5 is resistant to water "jet" from any direction.
It's not for me to say don't use it in the rain, that comes down to your own common sense and the seller, but having staff I also have a duty of care that they don't get fried....
Just think what fun we could all have if solar Steve was actually caller gutter vac Steve !!!!
Darran
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Not in driving rain, all connections are 16 amp waterproof as is extentions etc...
While the vac has some water resistance many are only ipx4 which is 'splash' resistant .
Ipx5 is resistant to water "jet" from any direction.
It's not for me to say don't use it in the rain, that comes down to your own common sense and the seller, but having staff I also have a duty of care that they don't get fried....
Just think what fun we could all have if solar Steve was actually caller gutter vac Steve !!!!
Darran
unrelated question could you get me the company no, for the omnipole gutter vac motor you mentioned yesterday cheers chris
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I'll dig out the details tomorrow if that's ok
Darran
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cheers
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Decided not to convert to 16amp in the end.
After scanning around it seems a lot of guys work in the rain and just keep the extension and vac covered with plastic bags or waterproof sheeting.
If I get electrocuted, I have only myself to blame, and maybe smurf ;D
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Sorry but you are responsible for your own health & safety so nothing to do with me ;D
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Speaking of guttervac jobs and good old H&S I'm just wondering how you guy's would go about this without the risk of damaging the consertvatory roof below?
Bearing in mind it's a pair of semi's so the conservatory belongs to next door.
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Speaking of guttervac jobs and good old H&S I'm just wondering how you guy's would go about this without the risk of damaging the consertvatory roof below?
Bearing in mind it's a pair of semi's so the conservatory belongs to next door.
On that big chunk of mortar I was thinking along the lines of using the likes a landing net on a stripped down wfp pole to catch it myself. What do you think?
One job simular to that this time above a glass conservatory roof the owner provided me with an old single bed matteres that I put up on the roof just incase stuff like that fell out of the gutter or roof valley and/or fell off the end of the guttervac pole as they do. ;D
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a old bit of carpet would have sorted that, or u just say it was a astroid falling from the sky ;D on a sersus note that a good example y u do a gutter survay b 4 u start ;D
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a old bit of carpet would have sorted that, or u just say it was a astroid falling from the sky ;D on a sersus note that a good example y u do a gutter survay b 4 u start ;D
Not convinced about the carpet idea as next door may not only get a hole in their roof still for free but may get the conservatory re-carpeted for free too ;D
I've been caught out a few times so I don't tend to quote jobs now unless I do a gutter camera survey first to see for myself what I'm letting myself in for then can price accordingly.
Here is some pics of the rest of that gutter run if interested.
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The point I'm trying to make I suppose is just because you buy and start using a guttervac you will still come across jobs that you need to think outside of the box to get the job done. Also when required still use ladders or other suitable access equipment when appropriate to reach the roofline safely to clear by hand, replace broken brackets, joints etc.
As the saying goes "No job is the same" so always best do a gutter camera survey first so you can see what you are letting yourself in for. Then you can price accordingly or if you think it's just too much hassle you always have the option to turn the job down rather than starting it and wished you never had.
Most awkward jobs I can overcome one way or another but charge a premium price for the hassle in doing so.
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cheers
any luck finding that number for vac motor]
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Replacement motors are available from Hugh crane at £73 plus vat
They have one left in stock !! Part number kw 49594
Darran
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thanks but i put the number in no results
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First job using the kit from gutter cleaning systems today, very pleased with it!
Gutters were full of moss and a couple of plants growing from the downpipe, the vac coped with it easily with just 2 motors running.
Being a noob to gutter vacs I popped up the ladder to get a better look before and after, gutters were sucked dry!
I would say its a little slower then going up the ladder to clear the gutters, by the time you've set up, done the job, give the equipment a wash then put it all away. But its safer, thorough, a more enjoyable experience and feels more professional then doing it off a ladder.
I actually think I now prefer gutter clearing to window cleaning ;D
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Makes it almost enjoyable don't it Chris ;D
How did you get on with the gutter cleaning systems carbon poles?
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If your doing it all day and all week you won't be wasting time washing down the equipment and you'll get quicker with setting up etc. If it's raining it will actually help the hose stay clear, other than that it should only need a wriggle if it gets heavy.
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Makes it almost enjoyable don't it Chris ;D
How did you get on with the gutter cleaning systems carbon poles?
The poles are light, but cheap feeling, they did the job just fine though. Certainly not Gardiner quality carbon.
Can't get along with the little mirror so will go the camara route at some point.
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Makes it almost enjoyable don't it Chris ;D
How did you get on with the gutter cleaning systems carbon poles?
The poles are light, but cheap feeling, they did the job just fine though. Certainly not Gardiner quality carbon.
Can't get along with the little mirror so will go the camara route at some point.
Those mirrors are a total waste of time if you ask me.
I've just noticed Gardiner Pole Systems are now selling Vantage Point Products wired version http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/essential-wired-telescopic-rugged-camera-survey-inspection-kit.html Not sure about the wired version though as have used something simular before and found wired camera inspection systems a real pain in the arse to use for guttering inspections etc.
However they also sell the wifi version here that might be worth a look http://www.vantagepointproducts.com/
I went for a gopro yonks ago myself but you could also get at cheap sj400 that would probably do the same job at a fraction of the price of any of the above.
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If you are thinking of getting a sjcam sj4000 then best you watch this video first so you don't get caught out buying a cheaper fake as are not as good as the real ones.
How to spot a fake sjcam sj4000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LjkmtQvT0M
Now you can have fun spotting the fakes http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=sjcam+sj4000&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H1.Xsj4000.TRS0&_nkw=sj4000&_sacat=0
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Anyone want some turf....
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1453479563_image.jpeg)
Darran
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Anyone want some turf....
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1453479563_image.jpeg)
Darran
No thanks I've got enough myself ta very much ;D
Looked like a pig of a job to do if that was seemless ali gutter type with internal brackets smudger.
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Victorian cast gutter - no brackets at all ;D
Darran
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Victorian cast gutter - no brackets at all ;D
Darran
Nice one ;)
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Makes it almost enjoyable don't it Chris ;D
How did you get on with the gutter cleaning systems carbon poles?
The poles are light, but cheap feeling, they did the job just fine though. Certainly not Gardiner quality carbon.
Can't get along with the little mirror so will go the camara route at some point.
Those mirrors are a total waste of time if you ask me.
I've just noticed Gardiner Pole Systems are now selling Vantage Point Products wired version http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/essential-wired-telescopic-rugged-camera-survey-inspection-kit.html Not sure about the wired version though as have used something simular before and found wired camera inspection systems a real pain in the arse to use for guttering inspections etc.
However they also sell the wifi version here that might be worth a look http://www.vantagepointproducts.com/
I went for a gopro yonks ago myself but you could also get at cheap sj400 that would probably do the same job at a fraction of the price of any of the above.
I'm trying to find a cheap wired cam and screen as I find the WiFi can be interrupted easily. Currently using a Sony cam and windows phone.
The mirror is ok to get you started
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Victorian cast gutter - no brackets at all ;D
Darran
Done a Victorian cast couple of weeks ago but it was shallow gutters, with the size of your roof it would have to of been deep with thick turf. Which brings me to asking is it not better with the ladder when removing lawns from the gutter, since having the triple vac I have wasted time ( me thinks) testing the power and different techniques. ?
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If you are thinking of getting a sjcam sj4000 then best you watch this video first so you don't get caught out buying a cheaper fake as are not as good as the real ones.
How to spot a fake sjcam sj4000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LjkmtQvT0M
Now you can have fun spotting the fakes http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=sjcam+sj4000&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H1.Xsj4000.TRS0&_nkw=sj4000&_sacat=0
Remember that it's sjcam that's ripping other companies off with their clones. This is the vid I was referring to before. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=22aANhjcqWE
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They probably manufacture the gopro brand too but are not allowed to advertise that they do. After all gopro is made in china too and has made the gopro ceo a billionaire ;D
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Just a quick update I did not have to use ladders at all as the guttervac worked well to clear the bocked downspout and guttering in the pics below.
To put the swan neck joint back together to the downpipe I found out the downpipe was lose on the wall so had dropped down. Instead of getting me ladders of the van as I could not be arsed I just used a wfp and the end of the brush to tease the bottom opening on the downspout forward a bit to line up with the downpipe and pushed them back together.
To stop them comming apart again as the brackets were the wrong size fitted to the downpipe so would not tighten up enough I just wedged a bit of brick under the bend at the botton of the downpipe to stop it slipping down again. Jobs a good um..Yeeha! ;D
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A screw through the bracket into the downpipe works wonders as well ;)
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A screw through the bracket into the downpipe works wonders as well ;)
I know Smudger it does but could not be arsed to get the tools out of me van so done the broken brick trick instead ;D
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Anyhow one of my pet hates is when numpties that put long screws into joints/downpipes which does my head in as is one of the main causes of blockages. They can't just put short screws in it has to be the longest they can fooking well find. >:(