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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: tony day on January 08, 2016, 08:19:46 pm

Title: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: tony day on January 08, 2016, 08:19:46 pm
Hi All.

Been using WFP for about five years now. And the only full-proof solution to window cleaning is the good old squeegee. It's more effective in results,it's quicker and cheaper to have as a tool. The only winners  in all this new brainwashing, technology is Mr Craig Mawlam from Ionics! Making us fall in love with the idea that hard work is outdated! I expect a very defensive response,as nobody wants to admit they have wasted there money.

Thanks. Tony
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: Dave Willis on January 08, 2016, 08:28:28 pm
Not a waste of money really - just not a particularly effective method of cleaning that's all.
 I wouldn't change to trad though.
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 08, 2016, 08:33:28 pm
I go to work to earn money.

I earn more money using WFP.

Do i care what method is better, no.

Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: dd on January 08, 2016, 08:38:25 pm
Either you are very quick with a squeegee or a bit slow with wfp.
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: Jamie Thomas on January 08, 2016, 08:45:24 pm
If water fed pole is crap why have you been using it for 5 years? wfp tec gets better and better id never go ionics i think they are a rip off. And wfp is only modern if you compare it to the wheel.
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: tony day on January 08, 2016, 08:51:42 pm
Either you are very quick with a squeegee or a bit slow with wfp.
If water fed pole is crap why have you been using it for 5 years? wfp tec gets better and better id never go ionics i think they are a rip off. And wfp is only modern if you compare it to the wheel.
Hi All.

Been using WFP for about five years now. And the only full-proof solution to window cleaning is the good old squeegee. It's more effective in results,it's quicker and cheaper to have as a tool. The only winners  in all this new brainwashing, technology is Mr Craig Mawlam from Ionics! Making us fall in love with the idea that hard work is outdated! I expect a very defensive response,as nobody wants to admit they have wasted there money.

Thanks. Tony
Bring back concorde, and the shammy leather!
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: trippyboy on January 08, 2016, 08:59:33 pm
I use vinegar and newspaper , its king
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: Walter Mitty on January 08, 2016, 09:02:47 pm
Yes, WFP is rubbish.
I'll feel guilty about it all the way to the bank.
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: SeanK on January 08, 2016, 09:08:23 pm
Total rubbish that's why I only target pensioners with poor eyesight, well that and I can also short change them.
Its a win win.
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: tony day on January 08, 2016, 09:13:12 pm
Bring back concorde and the shammy leather!
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: the king on January 08, 2016, 09:14:45 pm
wfp gives u a beta clean on most glass but wood fraims it can b dung also georgen windows can b a pain some upvc can b a pain to  thats y i do a mix or trad and wfp but on the other flip of the coin trad can b dung even with brand new rubber clean water with a good soap as it can look good from the out side but from inside not so good smear round the edg + direction change marks also 
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: Shane sharples on January 08, 2016, 09:26:23 pm
Wfp pole is good ...until you've got direct sunlight going through the glass, I did my kitchen window trad and it didn't look half as bad with direct sunlight going through it.
I wouldn't get me ladders out and do upstairs though FCK that
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: tony day on January 08, 2016, 09:48:54 pm
Mitty.

I think you will find Mr Mawlam is laughing all the way to the bank! (Founder of ionics). Plus he doesn't have to get up in January to scrub glass.

He's laughing at you Mitty!
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: Jonny 87 on January 08, 2016, 09:49:54 pm
Wfp all in all does a much more thorough job, and easily doubles the amount if work you can do in a day. As for a business model, wfp hands down is better.

I agree it's not perfect, but neither is traditional.

In the hands of a good operator though.... It can be pretty darn good.
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: Tadgh O Shea on January 08, 2016, 10:07:18 pm
Hi All.

Been using WFP for about five years now. And the only full-proof solution to window cleaning is the good old squeegee. It's more effective in results,it's quicker and cheaper to have as a tool. The only winners  in all this new brainwashing, technology is Mr Craig Mawlam from Ionics! Making us fall in love with the idea that hard work is outdated! I expect a very defensive response,as nobody wants to admit they have wasted there money.

Thanks. Tony
   The only full proof solution i have seen to clean glass properly is using a combination of micro-cleaning hand pads and high quality microfiber glass cloths with just plain tap water. I know this method is not a practical way for general cleaning of windows, but to achieve optimal results when cleaning glass i have yet to come across a better method. Tadgh
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: the king on January 08, 2016, 10:12:16 pm
Wfp all in all does a much more thorough job, and easily doubles the amount if work you can do in a day. As for a business model, wfp hands down is better.

I agree it's not perfect, but neither is traditional.

In the hands of a good operator though.... It can be pretty darn good.
couldent agree more
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 09, 2016, 12:29:26 am
Craig Mawlam doesn't laugh all the way to the bank on my dollar. Alex Gardiner on the other hand ...
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: supernova77 on January 09, 2016, 01:47:18 am
Mitty.

I think you will find Mr Mawlam is laughing all the way to the bank! (Founder of ionics). Plus he doesn't have to get up in January to scrub glass.

He's laughing at you Mitty!

I didn't realise Ionics were the only WFP manufactures!
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: Cookie on January 09, 2016, 07:26:40 am
Before I became a window cleaner I used to trad my own house - it took me ages. WFP cuts the time down by half.

As far as Ionics are concerned good luck luck to them! They're obviously doing well as a window cleaning supplier & some of the posters on here are very happy with the kit they have bought from them (particularly the Pure2o systems where  people are not that confident in building their own van mounts). I have spent most of my money at Pure Freedom & Gardiners.

I did once go to a free half day window cleaning taster session at the BWCA - which I believe is funded by Ionics - so I got something for free off them (including free snadwiches).  ;D
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: Walter Mitty on January 09, 2016, 07:37:23 am
Mitty.

I think you will find Mr Mawlam is laughing all the way to the bank! (Founder of ionics). Plus he doesn't have to get up in January to scrub glass.

He's laughing at you Mitty!

Troll.
Good luck to him too, and the other suppliers (not sure why you targetted Craig "Koi Carp" Mawlam).  I had my share of near-misses on ladders thanks.  Even if the quality does suffer a bit (and I'm not convinced of this for most jobs), at least I'm alive and uninjured.
How many goats did you have for dinner? :)
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: slap bash on January 09, 2016, 09:37:43 am
I never see WFP and trad as a choice, as they are just tools in my arsenal to clean effective. I understand you window cleaner wanting to rubbish one or other tool.  Come one guy lets chat about something smarter. I know we are regarded as a numpty trade but let`s not prove them right.
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: dave f on January 09, 2016, 10:05:34 am
another trad v wfp imo  I'm in this job to make a good living I could not care less which is better so long as the money comes in and I am safe from crashing down to earth .end of each to their own
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: tony day on January 09, 2016, 12:03:25 pm
Coffee with goats milk. Yum yum!
Farm purchased, not Waitrose crap!
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: NWH on January 09, 2016, 03:36:45 pm
You can think your the best blade cleaner in the world but I've seen some much worse results performed by so called trad cleaners,to do an awful job WFP your 1 of 2 things rushing with no clue what your doing or very unfortunate that you have a lot of problem Windows
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: Rich Wilts on January 09, 2016, 04:07:57 pm
You can think your the best blade cleaner in the world but I've seen some much worse results performed by so called trad cleaners,to do an awful job WFP your 1 of 2 things rushing with no clue what your doing or very unfortunate that you have a lot of problem Windows

Actually he's neither of those things, he's wind up artist. A troll.
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: Smurf on January 09, 2016, 04:47:49 pm
Ban him I say Tosh  as seems this tony bloke if that’s his real name is only out to cause trouble on the most friendliest forum in the UK...cough cough  ;D
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: Rich Wilts on January 09, 2016, 05:12:38 pm
It probably is Tosh.
Title: Re: Are WFP really that good?
Post by: Smurf on January 09, 2016, 05:21:16 pm
It probably is Tosh.

I would not put it past him to get the post count up  ;D ;D ;D