Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: tim handley on January 04, 2016, 08:28:22 am
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you have unlimited money to upgrade your porty, you want heat and you want long vac runs, you want good build and reliable pumps/vacs, also you want to operate it mostly van mounted, excluding the storm, which would you buy and why????
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Unlimited Money !!!!
Truckmount is the answer.
Geoff
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truck mount not an option!!!!!! when i say unlimited money i mean in terms of buying a porty, not enough to buy a new larger van as well as a truckmount, also im really not sure id want a truckmount.....
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' Mostly van mounted' meaning occasionally you would want to take it off the van to take it closer to a job.
An LPG prowler, I suggest LPG. As I believe you can use it inside a building ( I've Seen burnishers use LPG)
But I guess.................."These are not the droids answers you are looking for"
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not sure what you mean about droids??? but thanks anyway!!!!
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Not having problems are you mate?
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not sure what you mean about droids??? but thanks anyway!!!!
So you are not a Star Wars fan!.........It was a quote from a film (an attempt at humour :) )
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sorry no, dont do star wars, straight over my head............ !!
steven, no problems at all, i fancy another portable machine as back up, and i also really fancy some nice heat.........
looking at an enforcer or the top spec alltec..... just wanted hear from a few droids, sorry, owners..........
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the problem is such a thing does not exist, answer is hard.
I am so happy with my storm but missing 3kw tank heater that would preheat the water before it heats the inline heater, but it is another cable. Two cables running into the van is a max I accept.
There is one option, good porty with heater on two cables (but not sure if these machines with two standard motors are good enough for at least 15m of hose run) and then get mytee air hog. Usually needed on commercials where we have better electrics or upstairs on separate circuit.
Porty with auto feed and auto empty while all switched on. Think that might be my next setup as at the moment I need to switch off the machine to empty and go the the van to fill the water.
So, for example enforcer 5.7vacs with heater + inlline heater + airhog.
Also water on the van can be pre-heated with up to 6kw heaters one the same cables when machine not in use, while you are setting up, vacuuming, prespraying etc.
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Radek....heat the water while you are prepping then unplug the heater and switch on when required, when you switch off plug the heater back in.
Once I have heated the water up I rarely have to bother as the water stays red hot for ages.
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like the look of the enforcer, dont like the feedback re customer service......
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I agree with Mike, Sounds like you need a Darth Vader Prowler......... imo the problem with wanting all you have asked for has been outlined by Radek.
An Alltec 1200 would be my choice, I have never used one but why not just get an inline heater?
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Yes Jands I know, but storm has no immersion heater. I do have 2 x 2000w submersible heaters that I am going to use.
One 1500 heater could be working actually all the time as one lead is only running one of the motors.
Jonathan, inline heater is not enough unless you are happy to work very slow as otherwise water is not even warm. Need the warm water in the tank to get hot on the wand.
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Definitely need a 3kw heater...eats through blacktop.
Enforcer looks the business if it's anything like the Ninja you won't need the customer service.
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With the vac booster.
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I would have said extracta turbo but there bust now . When I change I think I will be looking at altec machines . They look strong like the extracta machines .
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Question to those with 2x5.7 vacs on board. How long is the hose you can run to clean with 200-300psi?
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Hi Tim
If it were my money I would go Alltec advance triple vac 5.7s Intank and inline heater built in.
If you ever meet Chris, Karra or Kerry at Alltec you would have no trouble in buying from them great people.
If I hadn't already got the storm (which is a great machine with no problem) I would have got anAlltec machine.
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Question to those with 2x5.7 vacs on board. How long is the hose you can run to clean with 200-300psi?
I have 2 x 5.7HD motors. I have cleaned at 100ft with 350 psi no probs.
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Tim,
I would van mount the Storm and draw off a water tank which has been pre heated with an immersion heater then finish off the heating with a magma or V2 for serious heat. Then get a Airflex mini or Altec Express for a truly portable portable. I see Cleansmart now do the mini with one 8.4 in it too.
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We've had an Alltec Evolution for a year and it has performed faultlessly. It has twin vacs and in-line heater (as well as immersion heater in solution tank). Very solidly built - will easily run 3 lengths of hoses. Only downside is that it is incredibly heavy..
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Tim
I am sure you understand that the reason Tm's are so power full is the hose runs. you need the high heat so the water is hot when it reaches the wand and the power to recover it.
The massive advantage we porty users have over TM's is our costs are lower giving a price advantage or profit which ever you choose.
TM's can be used in marketing but most people dont care after all a clean carpet is a clean carpet however its cleaned. claims otherwise are dubious. the use of the right products will ensure a healthy clean.
One area that a TMs is better is commercial work if thats you thing then dont compromise.
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We've had an Alltec Evolution for a year and it has performed faultlessly. It has twin vacs and in-line heater (as well as immersion heater in solution tank). Very solidly built - will easily run 3 lengths of hoses. Only downside is that it is incredibly heavy..
rob, thanks, im looking at the evolution, are you saying 75 foot is good?? i use 100 ft now and then with my storm (no heat) and it works very well, i just fancy some heat/steam at the end of my wand, (been watching too many you tube clips)!!!!!
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Tim, one thing, do not buy a machine with inline heater inside the machine, as water will cool down on longer hose run. Better the one like magma heater as you can use it close to the wand.
Just immersion on the machine.
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Why not put a heater in the Storm tank, have a duel switch on vac 2 so either the heat is on or the vac, this will keep it down to 2 cables from the machine. Pre heat a tank of water while you prep and then use a magma nearer the wand. When I used an in tank heater I just kept it topped up so the heater could keep pace. I personally would put immersion heater in a tank in the van and heat that before leaving for the job, with insulation it should keep hot for ages and then an inline heater nearer the wand.
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Hi
Easy Texatherm emv 201.
john
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Ok no one will probably do this but it would be an off the shelf quad 6.6
Buy the new Ashbys enforcer ' storm ' edition ... with the twin exhausts
The Airflex booster POD is now on offer at 299 ... get two of those and strap them together
Connect each booster pod to each exhaust port ...
Cables .... u could get all running on two really
Quad 6.6
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on two incl. pump, then one for immersion and and one inline? 3-4 cables to the van? its over 50amps :)
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on two incl. pump, then one for immersion and and one inline? 3-4 cables to the van? its over 50amps :)
Two booster pods .... running on one 2.5mm extension cable
The Ashbys storm .... running on another 2.5mm extension cable ( kept at about 300psi should be fine amp wise ... or select lower pump when ordering )
Ashbys storm onboard immersion heater .... plug into one of the two extension leads u have going to the van while u are setting up or drinking coffee
And close to the wand on a second circuit .... inline heater
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We've had an Alltec Evolution for a year and it has performed faultlessly. It has twin vacs and in-line heater (as well as immersion heater in solution tank). Very solidly built - will easily run 3 lengths of hoses. Only downside is that it is incredibly heavy..
rob, thanks, im looking at the evolution, are you saying 75 foot is good?? i use 100 ft now and then with my storm (no heat) and it works very well, i just fancy some heat/steam at the end of my wand, (been pwatching too many you tube clips)!!!!!
I'm just saying 75ft is the most I can confirm that the machine runs well with - although the vast majority of the time we are running 25 or 50ft. I think Alltec actually recommend their triple vac machine if you routinely want to use long hose runs. Heat at the wand has never been a problem for us. Just bear in mind the evolution weighs 62 kg empty, so it's a two man machine unless you have level access to the job.